Further improvements at 18

[KRAIVEN]

what should one do to further improve maxillary forward growth, wider chin, and maybe a stronger brow ridge. overall have a great base but just want the next level. also more flared gonions. I am guessing most likely exogenous routes. Age 18.

 

[sln]

yeah bro its over

surgery is the only thing saving you

 

[KRAIVEN]

yeah bro its over

surgery is the only thing saving you

That's total cope, its not as dramatic at 18 but still can change. even past 20 you can essentially masculinize your facial structure using test even though its mostly tissue growth and bone density.

 

[unon]

what should one do to further improve maxillary forward growth, wider chin, and maybe a stronger brow ridge. overall have a great base but just want the next level. also more flared gonions. I am guessing most likely exogenous routes. Age 18.

The only way is surgery. Durma filler could go along way

 

[KRAIVEN]

The only way is surgery. Durma filler could go along way

ROFL Dermal fillers are giga cope. Test and hgh or ipamorelin and test can diffidently masculinize face even past 18

 

[unon]

ROFL Dermal fillers are giga cope. Test and hgh or ipamorelin and test can diffidently masculinize face even past 18

Derma filler is not cope lmao. And the rest of stuff you said are more giga cope for the face

 

[KRAIVEN]

Derma filler is not cope lmao. And the rest of stuff you said are more giga cope for the face

That's just a logical fallacy. Filler migrates essentially making you look like a bloated pig. test alone is proven to improve brow ridge and chin even way past puberty. Cope somewhere else sport

 

[unon]

That's just a logical fallacy. Filler migrates essentially making you look like a bloated pig

No they don't when there bone deep

. test alone is proven to improve brow ridge and chin even way past puberty.

Doesn't

Cope somewhere else sport

Son

 

[KRAIVEN]

No they don't when there bone deep

Doesn't

Son

illogical incel

 

[unon]

illogical incel

Where did you here that fillers migrate and test gives you facial bones

 

[KRAIVEN]

Where did you here that fillers migrate and test gives you facial bones

Ok buster, first of all you dont know how to spell. better you get off this app and get some education. Wdym where did I hear this its a known thing with evidence. go to sleep pal

 

[unon]

Ok buster, first of all you dont know how to spell. better you get off this app and get some education.

My bad I have auto correct on.

Wdym where did I hear this its a known thing with evidence.

Misconceptions can you do me a favour and do your own research.

go to sleep pal

I know waked up 40 minutes ago

 

[KRAIVEN]

My bad I have auto correct on.

Misconceptions can you do me a favour and do your own research.

I know waked up 40 minutes ago

just google and come back its not that difficult. so illogical spreading false information

 

[PainfulProportions]

what should one do to further improve maxillary forward growth, wider chin, and maybe a stronger brow ridge. overall have a great base but just want the next level. also more flared gonions. I am guessing most likely exogenous routes. Age 18.

are you against surgery rn?

 

[unon]

just google and come back its not that difficult. so illogical spreading false information

Ok buddy it's lest than 1 % migration extremely rare. + The horror stories you heard about fillers are from medicinal malpractice. Mainly because they don't understand facial ratios.

If you want me to I can go into the science on why test and hgh doesn't work for facial bone growth. I have more in-depth knowledge on pharmacology. Also I know your new because you said "ipamorelin" and also facial bones don't fully fused until ~21+ for males for your knowledge

 

[Leo]

View attachment 4609180View attachment 4609181

Ok buddy it's lest than 1 % migration extremely rare. + The horror stories you heard about fillers are from medicinal malpractice. Mainly because they don't understand facial ratios.

If you want me to I can go into the science on why test and hgh doesn't work for facial bone growth. I have more in-depth knowledge on pharmacology. Also I know your new because you said "ipamorelin" and also facial bones don't fully fused until ~21+ for males for your knowledge

These niggas dont know shit and only listen to popular lm tiktokers

No point in even arguing with them

 

[KRAIVEN]

View attachment 4609180View attachment 4609181

Ok buddy it's lest than 1 % migration extremely rare. + The horror stories you heard about fillers are from medicinal malpractice. Mainly because they don't understand facial ratios.

If you want me to I can go into the science on why test and hgh doesn't work for facial bone growth. I have more in-depth knowledge on pharmacology. Also I know your new because you said "ipamorelin" and also facial bones don't fully fused until ~21+ for males for your knowledge

What are you saying. you just proved yourself wrong saying " facial bones don't fully fused until ~21+ for males for your knowledge". and btw Ipamorelin releases GH through GHSR-1a, then GH goes to the liver where it gets converted into IGF-1, and then IGF-1 tells the body to grow and repair tissues like bone, cartilage, and soft tissue.

why are you here spreading misinformation. and filler does migrate a lot actually. just like how girls with lip fillers have to get it re done every 6-8 months. But filler does not disintegrate it stays forever and only migrates.

 

[KRAIVEN]

These niggas dont know shit and only listen to popular lm tiktokers

No point in even arguing with them

ikr no point of spiking cortisol on these unintelligent, low iq niggas

 

[unon]

What are you saying. you just proved yourself wrong saying " facial bones don't fully fused until ~21+ for males for your knowledge". and btw Ipamorelin releases GH through GHSR-1a, then GH goes to the liver where it gets converted into IGF-1, and then IGF-1 tells the body to grow and repair tissues like bone, cartilage, and soft tissue.

One question how much would this raise your igf 1 level "cage" it produces such little it's not worth the money.

why are you here spreading misinformation. and filler does migrate a lot actually. just like how girls with lip fillers have to get it re done every 6-8 months.

You do know your body dissolved filler over time that's why you need to get them re done ?

But filler does not disintegrate it stays forever and only migrates.

There's something can filler dissolver.

 

[unon]

ikr no point of spiking cortisol on these unintelligent, low iq niggas

He was talking about you

 

[KRAIVEN]

One question how much would this raise your igf 1 level "cage" it produces such little it's not worth the money.

You do know your body dissolved filler over time that's why you need to get them re done ?

There's something can filler dissolver.

just go ropemax atp. srsly.

“It produces such little it’s not worth the money.” First of all, it doesn’t produce “such little.” Also, if wasting money is such a concern, then why do filler and have to dissolve it every six months for the rest of your life?

And no, the body does not dissolve filler. Your all over the place

Use basic logic: if the body could naturally dissolve filler, there would be no need for filler dissolvers.

Additionally, filler dissolvers substantially decrease your natural hyaluronic acid and skin elasticity, especially if used repeatedly over time.

why are you here spreading misinformation? you clearly are immensely uneducated especially in this field.

 

[unon]

just go ropemax atp. srsly.

“It produces such little it’s not worth the money.” First of all, it doesn’t produce “such little.” Also, if wasting money is such a concern, then why do filler and have to dissolve it every six months for the rest of your life?

And no, the body does not dissolve filler. Your all over the place

Use basic logic: if the body could naturally dissolve filler, there would be no need for filler dissolvers.

Additionally, filler dissolvers substantially decrease your natural hyaluronic acid and skin elasticity, especially if used repeatedly over time.

why are you here spreading misinformation? you clearly are immensely uneducated especially in this field.

@Leo @Orka I can't there's no point of explaining to someone that won't admit there wrong

 

[KRAIVEN]

@Leo @Orka I can't there's no point of explaining to someone that won't admit there wrong

holy cope go ropemax you retard. asking stupid questions like this in the big two six. nigga pls go by your own advice. just dont bother anyone. nigga just gave up rofl

 

[unon]

holy cope go ropemax you retard. asking stupid questions like this in the big two six. nigga pls go by your own advice. just dont bother anyone. nigga just gave up rofl

Nigger listen to one pm YouTube and thinks he knows everything and telling niggas to rope omg bro please seek a therapist.

 

[KRAIVEN]

Nigger listen to one pm YouTube and thinks he knows everything and telling niggas to rope omg bro please seek a therapist.

rope max nigger.

 

[Orka]

ROFL Dermal fillers are giga cope. Test and hgh or ipamorelin and test can diffidently masculinize face even past 18

You are a retard, the only change in masculinity would be from slight differences in fat distribution because of the higher test levels.

Why the fuck would you even mention Ipamorelin

 

[Orka]

@Leo @Orka I can't there's no point of explaining to someone that won't admit there wrong

Joined in 2026, he's at his beginner phase for learning shit

if he stays and rots a bit longer he might learn a thing or two

 

[Orka]

Use basic logic: if the body could naturally dissolve filler, there would be no need for filler dissolvers.

Additionally, filler dissolvers substantially decrease your natural hyaluronic acid and skin elasticity, especially if used repeatedly over time.

why are you here spreading misinformation? you clearly are immensely uneducated especially in this field.

The body can dissolve filler because hyaluronidase is a naturally occurring enzyme in our body.

But it's not as effective as injecting hyaluronidase to dissolve it, similar to other compounds that our body naturally produces, injecting more is a lot more efficient.

The decrease in natural hyaluronic acid resets itself and goes back to normal in 48 hours. You'll be fine.

 

[Orka]

These niggas dont know shit and only listen to popular lm tiktokers

No point in even arguing with them

hes 100% a hullo fan

 

[Kainep]

Is that arman on your avi? what fight was that

 

[unon]

rope max nigger.

Ok bro let's explains this in simple terms

You said filler migrate I proved to you with evidence it doesn't.

Then you test gives you facial bones
Thread 'The truth about steroids and peptides affecting bones/height' https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


Here's a thread that explains there's nothing you could really do other than surgery

Then you said ipamorelin could give you growth which is a joke. Ok let's say we took
500mg split into 2 x 3 doses ipamorelin which is a high dose

(200mg )It only produces per pulse 1.8 iu of hgh. IPA only last 2 - 4 hours day so you will need to inject multiple times per day
The body produces 2 iu of hgh per day

Even if you inject 500mg 3 times per day it's just not worth it just inject hgh. Which is a very high dose

IPA is about 100 mg for 80 dollars
If you were to inject 1.5g cost = 1.20 per day

And hgh is 360 iu for 150 cost = 1.25 per day and far better results lest injections and side effects ipa is useless

And wwb offers 1000 iu for 365 USD so that would be 1.10 USD per day hgh is just far better

Thennnn you told me to kms when I was just tryna help you

"Aggression when losing an argument is more reliably a sign of poor emotional regulation or low EQ than low overall intelligence. It often stems from frustration-aggression dynamics, ego threats, or cognitive dissonance (discomfort from conflicting beliefs), leading to hostile responses instead of adaptive ones. Calm, reasoned debate—even in defeat—tends to indicate stronger self-control and social/emotional skills."



Further more I gave you derma filler as an option because it's about 33 dollars for 1.1 ml when you're self injecting let's say you would use 7ml of filler for jaw zygo and chin the total cost of self injecting is 300-500 USD


I believe trimax + lefort 2 with rinoplasty is about 35k in Turkey


I doubt you're knowledgeable enough to that or plan a surgery.

So it's probably best if you ask for advice on where to find useful information or even better consult a qualified injector / surgeon

 

[sln]

That's total cope, its not as dramatic at 18 but still can change. even past 20 you can essentially masculinize your facial structure using test even though its mostly tissue growth and bone density.

ok so if you "know" how to do it why are you asking nigga

also you're mainly wrong

 

[KRAIVEN]

You are a retard, the only change in masculinity would be from slight differences in fat distribution because of the higher test levels.

Why the fuck would you even mention Ipamorelin

holy rage bait. stay a sub 5. its a peptide to raise gh. test is literally proven to result in a more prominent brow ridge and chin

 

[KRAIVEN]

Ok bro let's explains this in simple terms

You said filler migrate I proved to you with evidence it doesn't.

Then you test gives you facial bones
Thread 'The truth about steroids and peptides affecting bones/height' https://looksmax.org/threads/the-truth-about-steroids-and-peptides-affecting-bones-height.1550764/


Here's a thread that explains there's nothing you could really do other than surgery

Then you said ipamorelin could give you growth which is a joke. Ok let's say we took
500mg split into 2 x 3 doses ipamorelin which is a high dose

(200mg )It only produces per pulse 1.8 iu of hgh. IPA only last 2 - 4 hours day so you will need to inject multiple times per day
The body produces 2 iu of hgh per day

Even if you inject 500mg 3 times per day it's just not worth it just inject hgh. Which is a very high dose

IPA is about 100 mg for 80 dollars
If you were to inject 1.5g cost = 1.20 per day

And hgh is 360 iu for 150 cost = 1.25 per day and far better results lest injections and side effects ipa is useless

And wwb offers 1000 iu for 365 USD so that would be 1.10 USD per day hgh is just far better
View attachment 4610310

Thennnn you told me to kms when I was just tryna help you

"Aggression when losing an argument is more reliably a sign of poor emotional regulation or low EQ than low overall intelligence. It often stems from frustration-aggression dynamics, ego threats, or cognitive dissonance (discomfort from conflicting beliefs), leading to hostile responses instead of adaptive ones. Calm, reasoned debate—even in defeat—tends to indicate stronger self-control and social/emotional skills."



Further more I gave you derma filler as an option because it's about 33 dollars for 1.1 ml when you're self injecting let's say you would use 7ml of filler for jaw zygo and chin the total cost of self injecting is 300-500 USD


I believe trimax + lefort 2 with rinoplasty is about 35k in Turkey


I doubt you're knowledgeable enough to that or plan a surgery.

So it's probably best if you ask for advice on where to find useful information or even better consult a qualified injector / surgeon

keep coping. think ai is going to answer properly. you didnt even mention any factors let alone age.

lol, helping.


your spreading misinformation saying by filler does not migrate. literally google it its a known thing

 

[KRAIVEN]

ok so if you "know" how to do it why are you asking nigga

also you're mainly wrong

I though there would be some more logical people here for better advice or cycle tips. Im not gonna make a post saying how do i do so and so and proceed to explain it

 

[KRAIVEN]

Joined in 2026, he's at his beginner phase for learning shit

if he stays and rots a bit longer he might learn a thing or two

I hope you get filler to "ascend". its the biggest cope out there. I have immense knowledge on this subject.

 

[sln]

I thought there would be some more logical people here for better advice or cycle tips. Im not gonna make a post saying how do i do so and so and proceed to explain it

You’re just a retard ngl