Gain muscle lose fat. OPTIMAL?

[slaters]

How optimal is it to try gaining more muscle and lose fat?
Currently 17 5’11 155lb ~17bf

What we thinking here?
250 test
25mg anavar
2.5 mg Reta
500mcg ipamorelin 2-3x daily
Might swap ipa for tesamorelin idk yet

 

[Bryce]

What's wrong with being natural? Are you seriously unable to lose weight naturally?

 

[Deleted member 85132]

15-20% bodyfat is ideal, losing weight aint healthy

 

[Bryce]

15-20% bodyfat is ideal, losing weight aint healthy

Don't want a twink build after all. Women want size anyways, anywhere in the 20%-30% range is optimal

 

[Deleted member 85132]

Don't want a twink build after all. Women want size anyways, anywhere in the 20%-30% range is optimal

25-30% is definitely too much, ideal for most people is 17%ish, also woman dont want a working out body just a little muscle from the natural testosterone you should have

 

[Bryce]

25-30% is definitely too much, ideal for most people is 17%ish, also woman dont want a working out body just a little muscle from the natural testosterone you should have

I was bullshitting bro, I thought you were too

 

[slaters]

What's wrong with being natural? Are you seriously unable to lose weight naturally?

I can be lean easily but where I live it’s either
Be slim and get pretty girls but then get bitched by envious jacked ogres
Or
Try and be gymcel mass monster then get get no women

Idk I might just do the black person method and stay where I’m at

 

[Bryce]

I can be lean easily but where I live it’s either
Be slim and get pretty girls but then get bitched by envious jacked ogres
Or
Try and be gymcel mass monster then get get no women

Idk I might just do the black person method and stay where I’m at

What's the obvious answer here brother... just stay where u at ain't nobody staring down an ogremaxxed gymrotter

 

[slaters]

What's the obvious answer here brother... just stay where u at ain't nobody staring down an ogremaxxed gymrotter

But then I get fucking pressed out of envy by shreks
I’ve always been able to defend myself but when it’s a 6’3 Norwooder I can’t do shit but walk away like a bitch otherwise he’d thumbpull my jaw across the floor
But your right I’ll weigh the pros and cons of the cycle and if I decide not to do it I’ll do the skinny black person method and flash a weapon

 

[Troglodyte452]

10% mogs