German author that specializes on incels, supports hypergamy in her book

[Deleted member 10913]

@SayHeyHey i think it's good time for to come back islam bro ngl

I knew you would return bro. No Türk can stay absend from his creator and his prophet.

Islamic civilizational structure

It has come to my attention that the Islamic faith and it's social laws and regulations isn't always appriciated. Everyone can have their disagreements, but to disagree/critisize something there must be a correct understanding of the matter. There are users that i won't name that uses the...

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This is my thread that imo represents our religion fairly. Take a look if you are interested.
literally there is no valid argument for atheism. Study your deen once more and I hope that you'll revert back to Islam.

 

[brainded]

She is right of the situation but her solution is retarded. No way you can just suppress 80% of the male population from their biological drive.

I really don’t see a way out of this, women are not gonna just up and go back to trad society and the incel population will keep rising until it’s too much.

 

[TsarTsar444]

she is right? you agree with her?

Yes she is, everything she said is true evolutionary. I just hope humans are more evolved and not exactly like this

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Yes she is, everything she said is true evolutionary. I just hope humans are more evolved and not exactly like this

oh from an evolution point of view

i thought you said you agree with her suggestions

 

[TsarTsar444]

oh from an evolution point of view

i thought you said you agree with her suggestions

No

 

[mewcoper]

I knew you would return bro. No Türk can stay absend from his creator and his prophet.

Islamic civilizational structure

It has come to my attention that the Islamic faith and it's social laws and regulations isn't always appriciated. Everyone can have their disagreements, but to disagree/critisize something there must be a correct understanding of the matter. There are users that i won't name that uses the...

looksmax.org

This is my thread that imo represents our religion fairly. Take a look if you are interested.
literally there is no valid argument for atheism. Study your deen once more and I hope that you'll revert back to Islam.

i will look into bro thanks

 

[homo_faber]

some parts from her book aparently

So how does the Female Choice maiting system works? The most important characteristic for our considerations is that the males have to a certain extent apply for sex, and the females choose. The choice does not always take place actively and is therefore often not immediately recognizable, but the performance of the sexual act for males always depends on the requirements of the females. The competition is so always on the male side. Charles Darwin called this "sexual selection." Female Choice is based on two completely different reproductive strategies of the sexes. The need to have sex in order to reproduce does not mean that males and females pull together. On the contrary: to put it bluntly, the male goes on mass, trying to mate with as many females as possible. The female, on the other hand, goes for class and only mates with the best male. So the male has to get as many sexual partner as possible, the female only goes for the genetic high quality partner and has to fend the rest off. The consequence of these different strategies is an inextricable conflict between the sexes, a strong contradiction in sexuality. The imaginative biologists call these opposing reproductive strategies "sexual conflict". One of the most important features of the Female Choice is that the majority of males do not find any mates, or only very rarely. What sounds like evolution has done a bad trick on males and females is by far the most widespread and most successful reproductive model in the entire animal kingdom. The sexual selection by the picky females is at the same time the tool and the origin of evolutionary adaptations; it is the adjusting screw that determines the success of individuals and species. For this reason, sexuality in simple species proceeds according to similar patterns as in highly complex mammals, the differences between the various species are only variations on the same theme. This system also applied to humans until we settled down and is still in our genes.

[...]

But especially for the males, female choice is an incredibly time-consuming principle because they have to put almost all of their energy into finding and convincing female partners. This ties up so much capacity that the rest of the time only allows self-support: procure food, ward off predators and find a place to sleep. But people want more. A man who wants to improve his own life and increase his chances of survival by building something, inventing something, plowing his environment must first ensure that the capacity that is normally used up for sexual competition is free. Put simply, the man must have better access to sex (and thus reproduction) so that he can even turn to progress. Limiting the principle of female choice was therefore one of the most important steps in the early days of civilization that men took in the transition to sedentarism. Agriculture, and with it the ability to accumulate possessions, gave them a means of almost completely controlling sex as a resource. Men denied women the right to property, excluded them from the public sphere by banishing them to the cramped world of private households to raise their children. The institution of marriage ultimately made women almost 100 percent dependent. The fact that women could not prevent pregnancies due to a lack of safe contraceptives was very beneficial to men. The decision about how and with whom women should reproduce was no longer with women, but with men. In this way, men were able to shape the structures of the outside world - trade, economy, politics, work - which are the basis of our society to this day, without considering female (sexual) needs. Civilization was made for men by men: it is androcentric (from the Greek andrós for man).

[...]

It is only for a short period of time in evolutionary terms that women have had the opportunity to gain economic independence and control pregnancies themselves, for example through birth control pills. And since then they have been making giant strides into the androcentric system. What we are currently experiencing worldwide is the reckoning of the oppressed with a male dominated civilization. That turn is very painful for men. Not only does it have to feel to them as if what they have created over millennia and declared to be correct is being torn before their eyes, they also lose control over sex, an existential resource for them. Almost incompatible needs - especially in the area of sexuality, but not only there - collide. Sociology distinguishes human needs into five categories, from basic existential needs such as food and clothing to luxury needs such as self-fulfillment. The model is called Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The most urgent needs are below, the less important ones above. The aggressiveness with which people struggle to meet a need depends on their position in the pyramid and thus on their necessity. The problem is that the needs model is based on a certain equality between people. But the needs of people and especially those of men and women are not placed in the same place in the pyramid. Due to the different reproductive strategies of the sexes, sexuality is lower in the pyramid for men and is therefore more urgent than it is for women. The aggressiveness with which men react to the impending loss of control over this resource is correspondingly higher. With the invention of the birth control pill, their access to reproduction was severely restricted, but as long as women entered into loyal partnerships, at least sex remained secure. The increasing emergence of alternative relationship models also threatens this certainty. It is therefore not surprising that the male-dominated conservative parties in particular plead for the preservation of traditional marriage and the nuclear family. The influence of sexuality on the shaping of our civilization, and thus on today's conflicts, is rarely dealt with or categorically left out in social discourse. In general, most discourses have a biological void. Just as if man were not a physical being, but consisted only of his spirit.

 

[Ricochet]

Don't listen to a woman about shit like this. It's like asking a man to describe menstrual pain. He might if did research about it and learn some things but is he the person you would go to with that question? Same for women on matters of males fucking

 

[HumidVent]

From a utilitarian perspective, the solution would be to find a way to make sure everyone only has sex and relationships with their looksmatch.

Currently with 20/80 rule 80% of women and 20% of men are satisfied. 80/100 + 20/100 = 100 satisfied people.

If everyone sticks with their looksmatch 100% of men and 20% of women will be satisfied. 100/100 + 20/100 = 120 satisfied people.

 

[spark]

JFL AND PEOPLE STILL HAVEN'T WOKEN UP AND THINK INCELS ARE DELUSIONAL, FUCKING DISGUSTING, AT THIS MOMENT I WOKE UP, NO LONGER IM A LEFTIST, FUCK THE LEFT AND FUCK SOYCIALISM, THE STATE SHOULD EITHER BE DESTROYED OR TAKEN IN HANDS OF STRONG MEN WHO ARE GOING TO COMPLETELY DECIMATE ANY CUCKOLDRY THATS HAPPENING LIKE THIS, WOMEN ARE GOING TO LOSE ALL RIGHT. WHEN SRE MEN OF ALL RACES GOING TO WAKE UP AND KILL CUCKS???

Yet none of this has ever happened under socialism. Only under liberal capitalism. Let that sink in.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

There is many philosophical and empirical problems with her reasoning

woman are the shittiest philosophers

 

[TsarTsar444]

Yet none of this has ever happened under socialism. Only under liberal capitalism. Let that sink in.

This is so not true, never said capitalism is good, its almost equally as bad if not worse. Socialism is what made men and women equal over night in Eastern European societies, one of the most traditional places in the world back then, it killed us forever

 

[Zyros]

- men should learn to accept their incel status. men also should be actively discouraged to go for women except they receive strong signals of interest

- very interesting: cosmetic surgery was explictitely not recommend. basically everything that could improve the situation and the chances of reproducing for an incel was not recommend

These 2 are extremely fucked up, straight up evil

 

[spark]

This is so not true, never said capitalism is good, its almost equally as bad if not worse. Socialism is what made men and women equal over night in Eastern European societies, one of the most traditional places in the world back then, it killed us forever

EE was still way more family oriented under socialism than WE back in the 80s.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

woman are the shittiest philosophers

I kinda agree tbh

 

[TsarTsar444]

some parts from her book aparently

She is 100% correct, fuakkkkkk socialists and cucks, we literally controlled women and cucks completely overturned the hard work that our ancestors established, so that every future male will have a pussy to fuck. Tetra blackpill

 

[TsarTsar444]

EE was still way more family oriented under socialism than WE back in the 80s.

Thats because EE still needed few generations to chsnge so the changes take place, in the 80'a the people that were alive were still mostly brought up into villages and rural areas thought stuff by their grandparents. Today EE is degenerate af thanks to socialism

 

[TsarTsar444]

These 2 are extremely fucked up, straight up evil

Yup, and it's completely ok basically, this is the end sadly, nobody cares about males, not even Hitler, in fact he would be proud of this German rat, he also had a similar approach that he would pay women and men who fuck and make children while nazi incels rotted in Stalingrad

 

[spark]

Thats because EE still needed few generations to chsnge so the changes take place, in the 80'a the people that were alive were still mostly brought up into villages and rural areas thought stuff by their grandparents. Today EE is degenerate af thanks to socialism

It's degenerate thanks to what has been happening since the 90s clearly lmao. It took up the Westerns system.

 

[TsarTsar444]

It's degenerate thanks to what has been happening since the 90s clearly lmao. It took up the Westerns system.

No it started being like that since 1950 when women had the same rights as men, it was giga male oriented society before 1950, after that it was equal here snd there, and after 1990 it is Female dominant

 

[spark]

No it started being like that since 1950 when women had the same rights as men, it was giga male oriented society before 1950, after that it was equal here snd there, and after 1990 it is Female dominant

Sure it started with the no fault divorce but the commies always kept it relatively equal. It was the Western liberals who made the entire society completely gynocentric.

 

[Zyros]

Yup, and it's completely ok basically, this is the end sadly, nobody cares about males, not even Hitler, in fact he would be proud of this German rat, he also had a similar approach that he would pay women and men who fuck and make children while nazi incels rotted in Stalingrad

What grinds my gears the most is how these women supporting extreme eugenics never seem to talk about female counterparts being subjected to the slighest of standards. Both individuals contribute to the gene pool, not only males.

 

[Essonerian]

Yet none of this has ever happened under socialism. Only under liberal capitalism. Let that sink in.

thats why capitalism IS NOT a conservative value, only fake reagan cons made it to be in the last 40 years

 

[TsarTsar444]

thats why capitalism IS NOT a conservative value, only fake reagan cons made it to be in the last 40 years

Capitalism is extremely demonic, slightly more then communism. Ideal is like it was before the Renaissance

 

[Essonerian]

Capitalism is extremely demonic, slightly more then communism. Ideal is like it was before the Renaissance

I see you Persiawaffen

 

[TsarTsar444]

I see you Persiawaffen

Huh

 

[Deleted member 8853]

She is 100% correct, fuakkkkkk socialists and cucks, we literally controlled women and cucks completely overturned the hard work that our ancestors established, so that every future male will have a pussy to fuck. Tetra blackpill

We are a disgrace to our Indo European ancestors

 

[fras]

if you argue eugenic, low genetic value women should also be stopped reproducing, otherwise subhuman genetics will always find a way. see the balding gene. but of course in the argumentation of the author low genetic women still should have the right to get pumped by chad and then later get their bastard children financed by society (=taxpaying incels)

Not only that, but women pass down more traits to their children than the father. No matter how much these retarded women delude themselves, even Gigachad himself will not fix their shit genes. To give an example, how often do you see a SEAmaxxers child look like his father? Never, they always end up looking like the subhuman SEA mom.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

When men are put at a higher social status all these problems are solved anyway.

Women want men who are above them, if society therefore kept men above women, their hypergamy is satisfied anyway.

This recent artificial boost of female status in society has been the worst thing possible for hypergamy. Now even more men than what is 'natural' are at a lower status than women because of things like positive discrimination and an education system which panders to female learning (low logic or iq requirement, lots of coursework).

 

[Deleted member 12344]

Lol She says we should back to female choice which is never happened

 

[RecessedCel5]

women author

 

[Deleted member 2968]

Degenerate whore

 

[Deleted member 12611]

This is from the book:



funny how she then proceeds by basically proving incel ideology: women are indeed only attracted to a rather small minority of men (biological reasons: women have to be more "picker" then men because they can get less offspring then men, invest more in offsprings etc) hence majority of men in history in old days never reproduced etc...however since these old days lead to high competion and eventually violence and murder amongst men (and to stop the cucking) men established monogamy via religion etc..and thats an unnatural state according to her which she cant wait to get removed by sexual liberation and higher economical status and income of women

she then goes on how this will natural raise the number of incels and gave a few suggestions how to deal with the situation

- introduction of pacifier for incel men: porn, sex roboter (hookers are very bad according to her and prostitution should be forbidden)
- it should be normalised to be incel, the social stigma should be removed. men should learn to accept their incel status. men also should be actively discouraged to go for women except they receive strong signals of interest
- the social state should be strengthen and the support single mums should be increased (so that they are not forced to be with sub8 men for beta providing)
- very interesting: cosmetic surgery was explictitely not recommend. basically everything that could improve the situation and the chances of reproducing for an incel was not recommend

again: all of that was on public german tv.

THIS IS TAKEN FROM LOOKISM POST, IT'S NOT MINE

LOL - lookism.net got featured in german public tv

at 03:07 they showed a discussion after that on TV with "incel experts" which is not available on youtube german "incel experts" (veronika kracher) imagine that, an ugly, overweight woman who get pays to read threads of around ~30-50 people and then talks about it (i noticed she claims...

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She idealizes female choice as something natural, yet it never existed due to rape. The competitions between men were not jester peacocking games to impress women so that they would pick them jfl, this isn't tinder. The competitions between men would be wars of killing and dominating so they could rape women. The natural state of affairs is male choice. Good luck justifying why naturality is intrinsically good, though.

 

[tommyice]

She's not incorrect but her solutions are all collectivism that begs for men to kneel.

- introduction of pacifier for incel men: porn, sex roboter (hookers are very bad according to her and prostitution should be forbidden)

Prostitution needs to be on the free market and available. Prostitutes should be allowed to solicit sex and they should know that the risk of doing so will prevent them from getting genetically dominant men. If the woman in OP wants genetics to reign supreme, then she should be for state enforced eugenics instead of regulation on prostitution, and by that merit, anyone deemed unfit to produce offspring should have medical intervention to prevent it.

- it should be normalised to be incel, the social stigma should be removed. men should learn to accept their incel status. men also should be actively discouraged to go for women except they receive strong signals of interest

The problem here is that this prevents freedom of speech and expression and also is saying that being ugly is essentially a perceived threat. Again, if this is the concern, just skip to eugenics, not this. This is also a bastardization because women have access to fakeupmaxx and is assuming that all women are worthy of dating up. If fakeupmaxx didn't exist, incel numbers would plummet because ugly whores would not be able to get with higher status/income men and would be rightfully with their goblin male looksmatch.

- the social state should be strengthen and the support single mums should be increased (so that they are not forced to be with sub8 men for beta providing)

SIngle moms and bad fathers who are took care of by the state are the reason we are in this mess. Single moms raise retarded men who rely on feelings instead of logic and reason so they create good looking men who are retarded, who then in turn become bad fathers with women who thought they would be a good provider but it turns out they're just a feelings addicted retard thrill ride to satisfy their validation of dating a good looking man. They have a kid eventually down the line, and the bad father then teaches the son bad habits and they then become either a betabux or same as dad. Single moms and bad fathers should have to meet their rightful ends for taking risk that should not result in rewards. Take away the state and sub8 men will disappear in many ways.

- very interesting: cosmetic surgery was explictitely not recommend. basically everything that could improve the situation and the chances of reproducing for an incel was not recommend

This German author is a communist but for women. The fact that free market solutions exist to make your facial structure discernibly better, to re-induce hair growth and increase collagen all go against what she wants which is men to kneel and grovel at their knees. As long as plastic surgery, looksmaxxing, and capitalism are available, men are able to be free and pursue their own individual wants and escape the sub5 nightmare and have at least a chance. Unfortunately women are generally collectivist and will listen to the meandering cunt make up lies in order to get states to subsidize more for women. She is also not being an egalitarian as fakeupmaxx would be banned or removed in her case as well which would even out the playing field.

Overall, fuck this retarded cunt I hope she gets eviscerated with a chainsaw.

 

[recessed]

who needs genetic engineering and space travel When female Led evolution can make all men 6'3 on average after a few hundred years

 

[Deleted member 12344]

She idealizes female choice as something natural, yet it never existed due to rape. The competitions between men were not jester peacocking games to impress women so that they would pick them jfl, this isn't tinder. The competitions between men would be wars of killing and dominating so they could rape women. The natural state of affairs is male choice. Good luck justifying why naturality is intrinsically good, though.

Yeah tbh but women choose same way too chads would be winner in a war if there is a war.

 

[Deleted member 12344]

She's not incorrect but her solutions are all collectivism that begs for men to kneel.


Prostitution needs to be on the free market and available. Prostitutes should be allowed to solicit sex and they should know that the risk of doing so will prevent them from getting genetically dominant men. If the woman in OP wants genetics to reign supreme, then she should be for state enforced eugenics instead of regulation on prostitution, and by that merit, anyone deemed unfit to produce offspring should have medical intervention to prevent it.


The problem here is that this prevents freedom of speech and expression and also is saying that being ugly is essentially a perceived threat. Again, if this is the concern, just skip to eugenics, not this. This is also a bastardization because women have access to fakeupmaxx and is assuming that all women are worthy of dating up. If fakeupmaxx didn't exist, incel numbers would plummet because ugly whores would not be able to get with higher status/income men and would be rightfully with their goblin male looksmatch.


SIngle moms and bad fathers who are took care of by the state are the reason we are in this mess. Single moms raise retarded men who rely on feelings instead of logic and reason so they create good looking men who are retarded, who then in turn become bad fathers with women who thought they would be a good provider but it turns out they're just a feelings addicted retard thrill ride to satisfy their validation of dating a good looking man. They have a kid eventually down the line, and the bad father then teaches the son bad habits and they then become either a betabux or same as dad. Single moms and bad fathers should have to meet their rightful ends for taking risk that should not result in rewards. Take away the state and sub8 men will disappear in many ways.


This German author is a communist but for women. The fact that free market solutions exist to make your facial structure discernibly better, to re-induce hair growth and increase collagen all go against what she wants which is men to kneel and grovel at their knees. As long as plastic surgery, looksmaxxing, and capitalism are available, men are able to be free and pursue their own individual wants and escape the sub5 nightmare and have at least a chance. Unfortunately women are generally collectivist and will listen to the meandering cunt make up lies in order to get states to subsidize more for women. She is also not being an egalitarian as fakeupmaxx would be banned or removed in her case as well which would even out the playing field.

Overall, fuck this retarded cunt I hope she gets eviscerated with a chainsaw.

Hitler would proud of this woman

 

[Deleted member 12344]

who needs genetic engineering and space travel When female Led evolution can make all men 6'3 on average after a few hundred years

Yeah but still it isnt so natural evoution is survival of fittest not the strongest

 

[mortis]

what is the name of this author?and her book?

 

[Pietrosiek]

Thing is, women have power over the man. Strenght of pussy, hot body and face is to much for male sex drive to hanle. In animal kingdom, man compete for females.

She wants it to be that way, but she forgets that raping exist in nature. Does she wants to be raped? Becouse when theres a leader in the pride of lions, he will protect his lioness from rape. He doesnt want to get cucked. So if we talk about making our lives as natural as possible, rape should be allowed and it should be mans task to defend his women from other man.

 

[Deleted member 12611]

The problem here is that this prevents freedom of speech and expression and also is saying that being ugly is essentially a perceived threat. Again, if this is the concern, just skip to eugenics, not this. This is also a bastardization because women have access to fakeupmaxx and is assuming that all women are worthy of dating up. If fakeupmaxx didn't exist, incel numbers would plummet because ugly whores would not be able to get with higher status/income men and would be rightfully with their goblin male looksmatch.

The alternative is men start wearing makeup too.

 

[tommyice]

The alternative is men start wearing makeup too.

Yes, only problem is that there is not a masculine make up style like there is feminine.

 

[Deleted member 12344]

There is many philosophical and empirical problems with her reasoning

LMAO SHE THINKS SHE WONT GET RAPED BY 20.000 YEAR AGOS SOCIETY WOMEN CHOOSE NEVER HAPPENED HHAHAHAH

 

[Deleted member 12344]

Creator of universes made holy Jihad our religious duty @SayHeyHey @Maesthetic

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Creator of universes made holy Jihad our religious duty @SayHeyHey @Maesthetic

Based march of the glorious Ottoman Empire

 

[TsarTsar444]

Based march of the glorious Ottoman Empire

I need to Izmir max with my fellow balkan muslim brocels who migrated there 100 years ago tbh ngl

 

[Deleted member 4438]

not one word you dog

how about a summary in 2 sentences?

 

[Deleted member 12344]

I need to Izmir max with my fellow balkan muslim brocels who migrated there 100 years ago tbh ngl

Izmir is most secular place in turkey know that ?

 

[Deleted member 12344]

not one word you dog

how about a summary in 2 sentences?

You should read tho

 

[Deleted member 4438]

i read that bullshit

1. marriage was mans idea ?! nah mans, thats made by woman. we man hate marriage.

2. nigga which Chad goes for some 3,5psl becky, if i was chad i would be stacylite only.