Getting blackpilled has made me conclude most "professional" novelists are full of shit

[disillusioned]

This isn't the first time I've touched upon this topic, but I would like to do so again.

Basically, I've recently (well about a year ago) gotten into writing, and I've been reading various material about what makes for "good" writing. Things like plot outlines, character behavior, understanding how people think etc...

...and it's almost all bullshit.

So called professional writers have literally no idea what they're talking about. They are like the writing community's version of pickup artists: A bunch of bullshitters who insist that they "understand" people, and can tell how you to write "realistic" (aka what normie bluepill society THINKS is realistic) characters. Naturally, that involves deluded gender stereotypes, unrealistic and idealistic notions about how people behave under different circumstances, the idea that different characters are extremely unique and different (aka the snowflake myth).

It's fucking bullshit. Most characters in novels don't behave anything like people do in the real world.

Just lol at anybody starting a writing career that takes these clowns seriously.

 

[Deleted member 7044]

 

[Tony]

 

[Tony]

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

catcher in the rye, cats cradle are one of the few real books
theres a reason catcher is so legendary

 

[Deleted member 11053]

I feel like there is people like that in every field this days. I think its cause the world keep changing but people don't bother changing the way they think and innovate.

 

[Deleted member 9274]

I also started getting into writing. What is your routine like? Also 99% of books are trash, but some are 'good' trash. Sometimes things aren't taken seriously

 

[disillusioned]

I also started getting into writing. What is your routine like? Also 99% of books are trash, but some are 'good' trash. Sometimes things aren't taken seriously

I just try to write at least 3-5 times per week, and no less than about 500-1200 words per season. It works pretty good. I've been working on my novel for about 9 months now and I'm up to about 104k words, though considerable chunks will have to be rewritten. My goal is to have a finished first draft within a couple of months.

And yes, I agree most of them are trash. This is largely because of lack of editing (you aren't even remote done after the first draft) and no attention to the specifics (how characters talk rather than what they say etc and countless other small things). Also not having an idea of where the story is even suppose to go. I'm of the view that you should already know the beginning, middle and end before even writing the first word.

 

[Deleted member 9274]

I just try to write at least 3-5 times per week, and no less than about 500-1200 words per season. It works pretty good. I've been working on my novel for about 9 months now and I'm up to about 104k words, though considerable chunks will have to be rewritten. I'm to have a finished first draft within a couple of months.

I'm mirin. Good luck with the fucking editting. What genre are you doing or what is it all about if I may ask?

 

[disillusioned]

I'm mirin. Good luck with the fucking editting. What genre are you doing or what is it all about if I may ask?

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

 

[Deleted member 9274]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

Holy fuck. I thank you for this well thought out summary of your story so far. Damn 4 parts and this giga long? I like the whole humans as 'evil'. The aliens are the more of an idealized version of us (and what you as writer wants us ideally to be) damn. Basically humans are just trash in this universe. Also jfl at aliens with this advanced technology and being low IQ at the end of part 1????

 

[Deleted member 11167]

Are sex toys full of shit?

 

[Deleted member 5698]

If you write about a based mixed guy that kills and rapes foids on the street, i'm gonna be the first one to buy your book.

 

[disillusioned]

Also jfl at aliens with this advanced technology and being low IQ at the end of part 1????

I mean, look at it like this: If I told you that a race of alien lizards lived under the earth, and that soon it will attack us, how would you react?

Bear it in mind that in this universe, humans are the ONLY race that didn't have it's violent tendacies stamped out by the natural selection process by the time of reaching sentience. As far as the rest of the galaxy is concerned, the idea of a warlike race (again, remember that the concept of war doesn't even exist for them, except only in certain contexts within the animal kingdom (ants going to war etc) is not only hard to believe, its outright absurd. Humans deviate from the accepted evolutionary standard to such an extreme extent (detailed reasons are given for this in the novel btw, it's not just handwaved away as "they just are") that to the rest of the galaxy we are borderline abominations.

I mean consider all the sick shit that we enjoy watching/playing/listening etc to in the real world. Imagine if you were came from an alien society where the very idea of violence is unthinkable, and then you saw them play something like this:





How do you think they would react? They would react with shock and disgust.

And why wouldn't they? If they demanded you explain why you enjoy this ultra-violent content, then what answer could you possibly give them that won't make you sound like a psychopath? The only reason we don't flinch when seeing people play this stuff, is because have become densitised to it from overexposure. Lots of our "normal" entertainment, is actually just extremely sick. Humans ARE sick.

And if you want me to prove my point further, look at some of the comments under the Hatred trailer:

Look at how his past experiences with violent media content has utterly densentized him. If an alien with no prior exposure to such extreme content saw you play it they would just call you out (rightly so) as a monster.

EDIT: Also note how these games don't even try to pretend there is any pretense for the cruelty. They don't hide behind "muh story" or "muh drama". They just revel in the fact that they are pure sadism.

The best part is when people try to rationalize it by saying it's "just entertainment", while completley failing to understand that this actually just makes them sound even more monstrous. "I don't get it why gunning down the elderly if frowned down upon, it's just for the lulz brah."

 

[Deleted member 10524]

I mean, look at it like this: If I told you that a race of alien lizards lived under the earth, and that soon it will attack us, how would you react?

Bear it in mind that in this universe, humans are the ONLY race that didn't have it's violent tendacies stamped out by the natural selection process by the time of reaching sentience. As far as the rest of the galaxy is concerned, the idea of a warlike race (again, remember that the concept of war doesn't even exist for them, except only in certain contexts within the animal kingdom (ants going to war etc) is not only hard to believe, its outright absurd. Humans deviate from the accepted evolutionary standard to such an extreme extent (detailed reasons are given for this in the novel btw, it's not just handwaved away as "they just are") that to the rest of the galaxy we are borderline abominations.

I mean consider all the sick shit that we enjoy watching/playing/listening etc to in the real world. Imagine if you were came from an alien society where the very idea of violence is unthinkable, and then you saw them play something like this:





How do you think they would react? They would react with shock and disgust.

And why wouldn't they? If they demanded you explain why you enjoy this ultra-violent content, then what answer could you possibly give them that won't make you sound like a psychopath? The only reason we don't flinch when seeing people play this stuff, is because have become densitised to it from overexposure. Lots of our "normal" entertainment, is actually just extremely sick. Humans ARE sick.

And if you want me to prove my point further, look at some of the comments under the Hatred trailer:

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Look at how his past experiences with violent media content has utterly densentized him. If an alien with no prior exposure to such extreme content saw you play it they would just call you out (rightly so) as a monster.

EDIT: Also note how these games don't even try to pretend there is any pretense for the cruelty. They don't hide behind "muh story" or "muh drama". They just revel in the fact that they are pure sadism.

The best part is when people try to rationalize it by saying it's "just entertainment", while completley failing to understand that this actually just makes them sound even more monstrous. "I don't get it why gunning down the elderly if frowned down upon, it's just for the lulz brah."

mirin, were there any books or content on writing that were actually helpful? Trying to get into it myself

 

[lutte]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

30 year old unemployed bumfuck dildo connaisseur writing four sci-fi tomes on the dangers of hypergamy

 

[Deleted member 9274]

I mean, look at it like this: If I told you that a race of alien lizards lived under the earth, and that soon it will attack us, how would you react?

Bear it in mind that in this universe, humans are the ONLY race that didn't have it's violent tendacies stamped out by the natural selection process by the time of reaching sentience. As far as the rest of the galaxy is concerned, the idea of a warlike race (again, remember that the concept of war doesn't even exist for them, except only in certain contexts within the animal kingdom (ants going to war etc) is not only hard to believe, its outright absurb. Humans deviate from the accepted evolutionary standard to such an extreme extent (detailed reasons are given for this in the novel btw, it's not just handwaved away as "they just are") that to the rest of the galaxy we are borderline abominations.

I mean consider all the sick shit that we enjoy watching/playing/listening etc to in the real world. Imagine if you were came from an alien society where the very idea of violence is unthinkable, and then you saw them play something like this:





How do you think they would react? They would react with shock and disgust.

And why wouldn't they? If they demanded you explain why you enjoy this ultra-violent content, then what answer could you possibly give them that won't make you sound like a psychopath? The only reason we don't flinch when seeing people play this stuff, is because have become densitised to it from overexposure. Lots of our "normal" entertainment, is actually just extremely sick. Humans ARE sick.

And if you want me to prove my point further, look at some of the comments under the Hatred trailer:

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Look at how his past experiences with violent media content has utterly densentized him. If an alien with no prior exposure to such extreme content saw you play it they would just call you out (rightly so) as a monster.

EDIT: Also note how these games don't even try to pretend there is any pretense for the cruelty. They don't hide behind "muh story" or "muh drama". They just revel in the fact that they are pure sadism.

The best part is when people try to rationalize it by saying it's "just entertainment", while completley failing to understand that this actually just makes them sound even more monsterious. "I don't get it why gunning down the elderly if frowned down upon, it's just for the lulz brah."

You make some good points here. Also about humans being 'sick' isn't really sick, but it's just a norm now. If we take morality as just a subjective thing then ofcourse aliens would be shocked and seeing it as not of a good thing, but humans killing the aliens would be good for them as they see them as a threat. It's about understanding different perspectives and seeing them for what they are. You might ask if they are really evil or just acting, because they don't know better. Socrates talked about this with the 'higher up' people and the primitive ones. Sadly most are just primitives. Hope i made sense I'm fucking tired btw so might be bs

 

[Deleted member 9274]

30 year old unemployed bumfuck dildo connaisseur writing four sci-fi tomes on the dangers of hypergamy
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Bro stfu man. This takes fucking effort. He mogs you hard with this dedication

 

[Deleted member 9274]

mirin, were there any books or content on writing that were actually helpful? Trying to get into it myself

You wanna consumemaxx what you like and combine different ideas from different genres together. Read things you normally hate and look if there are some hidden gems. Personally i write scripts so this word count shit isn't for me

 

[disillusioned]

mirin, were there any books or content on writing that were actually helpful? Trying to get into it myself

This series of books is useful. They are basically just wikis for words and descriptions to use for characters when trying to describe emotions and behaviors. They are useful when you are looking for some words to describe something but you are having difficulty find them. Some of the books are also more focused on more specific emotions.

Amazon.com : the emotion thesaurus

I have them open in kindle sometimes while writing.

I would also use Scrivener for writing instead of word or openoffice. It makes it 10x easier to organize content and it also conveniently formats your novel for you to a considerable extent. It can also export to most formats (PDF, ebook etc).

 

[lutte]

Bro stfu man. This takes fucking effort. He mogs you hard with this dedication

I am mirin his dedication, if he actually does it

This series of books is useful. They are basically just wikis for words and descriptions to use for characters when trying to describe emotions and behaviors. They are useful when you are looking for some words to describe something but you are having difficulty find them. Some of the books are also more focused on more specific emotions.

Amazon.com : the emotion thesaurus

I have them open in kindle sometimes while writing.

I would also use Scrivener for writing instead of word or openoffice. It makes it 10x easier to organize content and it also conveniently formats your novel for you to a considerable extent. It can also export to most formats (PDF, ebook etc).

tell me, why don't you write in your native language?

 

[fras]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

10/10 would buy and then

jk I'd read it, sounds intriguing.

 

[Deleted member 10104]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

This actually sounds really good. Delete this post or if your book makes it big you will regret it.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

This actually sounds really good. Delete this post or if your book makes it big you will regret it.

You can't it's over

 

[Deleted member 2597]

This book will mog hard I'm excited honestly

 

[Deleted member 10104]

This book will mog hard I'm excited honestly

I'm going to dm op soon, I want to make sure i get his book on release. loved reading most of his forum posts anyway.

 

[Deleted member 2597]

Jfl imagine if Hollywood adapted his books into a movie tv series

 

[disillusioned]

Jfl imagine if Hollywood adapted his books into a movie tv series

brb scouting blackpill forums for movie scripts.

This actually sounds really good. Delete this post or if your book makes it big you will regret it.

Why? All publicity is good publicity when it comes to novels. Infamy would just give me more attention.

 

[disillusioned]

tell me, why don't you write in your native language?

Why write the book in a language spoken by only 300 thousand people?

 

[lutte]

Why write the book in a language spoken by only 300 thousand people?

because it's yours and despite what you think you're probably way better at writing icelandic

 

[TheAnomaly]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

Wow! Sounds great.

 

[disillusioned]

because it's yours and despite what you think you're probably way better at writing icelandic

Actually, no. I spend 90% of my time on the internet, which is in english. My Icelandic grammar is legit worse because I almost never write anything in Icelandic anymore.

EDIT: Also, forum speak isn't the same as my actual written text. On forums I don't give af and just type quickly so it gives the impression of my english being worse than it actually is.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

catcher in the rye, cats cradle are one of the few real books
theres a reason catcher is so legendary

catcher is legit
one of the few books ive read for my english class that i enjoyed

 

[Deleted member 7725]

All the based books are "controversial" or are getting burned.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

basically every media

 

[Deleted member 5189]

You're not "blackpilled" you're brainwashed

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

catcher is legit
one of the few books ive read for my english class that i enjoyed

eva and catcher are cut from the same cloth

 

[Deleted member 12827]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

dnrd

 

[anti caking agents]

Yes. I agree with you completely. Honestly do not bother reading too much of that shit. Make sure you read:

THE ART OF DRAMATIC WRITING its Basis in the Creative Interpretation of Human Motives
BY LAJOS EGRI

That is all you need then just start writing. Your story sounds like something that I read a long time ago on /r/HFY. Wishing you luck.

 

[Deleted member 8576]

literally everyone is trying to become a writer i mean millions of cucks upload fanfictions to the internet thinking they'll be the shit someday

 

[lutte]

Actually, no. I spend 90% of my time on the internet, which is in english. My Icelandic grammar is legit worse because I almost never write anything in Icelandic anymore.

EDIT: Also, forum speak isn't the same as my actual written text. On forums I don't give af and just type quickly so it gives the impression of my english being worse than it actually is.

you're wrong. icelandic autism. @Intjcel is the same

 

[Tony]

It's a blackpilled sci-fi (soft sci-fi mind you, not geeky stuff like Star Trek). It's actually the first part in a quadrilogy. The premise is that all the known races in the galaxy are inherently peaceful, and have formed a galactic society that basically functions largely as it would if our own real world actually operated as the bluepill says (almost everyone is good on the inside, almost no truly evil people, egalitarian society, no war or violent in media entertainment, partners are faithful etc). And that is how it worked for them for hundreds of years within their almost borderline utopian galactic society.

And then one of their exploration ships (where most of the story within the first installment takes place, since the alien explorers are the main protagonists) stumbles across Terran (human) space following a long range jump using a new experimental warp drive (the human region of the galaxy having been largely unexplored at the time). For reasons that I won't explain in detail, a couple of humans (one high IQ gangster, and one low IQ working class dimwit) end up at their ship by accident.

While not immediately violent, it doesn't take long for the crew to realize that there is something heavily off about this new alien race, and once they realize to their horror that humans are a ultra-violent evolutionary abomination (the only race in the galaxy that evolved to be naturally violent/wages war/is sociopathic etc), largely in part because of human sexuality (humans are the only sentient race that practices hypergamy where as every other race practices either monogamy or shares mates. Humans are also the only known instance of primates evolving sentience, also because of abnormal evolutionary conditions), they panic and attempt to warn the Galactic Union (the space version of the EU basically) to avoid first contact and just leave humans alone, as humans at this point in time, while technically spare faring (story starts in 23rd century), have not yet mastered long range warp ability like they have, believing that if left alone it would take humans hundreds of years to reach union space, at which point they might have already destroyed themselves or at least given the rest of the galaxy time to prepare some type of defense by the time they arrive. For reasons I won't give details on, this doesn't work and humans obtain warp tech via stolen alien technology.

The novel then ends with somewhat of a cliffhanger, in which the alien explorers sob over the fact that they haven't been able to prevent humans from making contact with the rest of the galaxy, with all the horrifying implications that come with that. Even worse, is that since the idea of a warlike race is too surreal for most of the galaxy to entertain, Terran authorities are able to bullshit them into believing, at least for a limited time, that they aren't actually warlike at all, thus allowing for some period if massive Terran expansion, which the aliens cannot counter effectively. The novel basically ends on a "Oh uh!" note, because now humans have entered the galactic scene.

I haven't started on the later novels, but I already pretty much know where I intend to take them. Since the idea is to explore the impact human arrival has on the galaxy, there is a 20 year time jump between each installment, and each story features it's own characters and sub-plots taking place withing the grander narrative, though some previous characters may or may not return (I haven't decided yet). Basically the idea is roughly along these lines:

Part I: First contact with humanity established following successful use of an experimental warp drive by a team of alien explorers. Humans learn of the rest of the galaxy.

The story centers on the alien explorers on the ship as they discover humanity, and all the various drama that surrounds the discovery, as well as the events that take place on the ship itself following the arrival of the two humans on board the ship.

Part II: Humans have spent the past 20 years forcing their influence on various nearby systems via the use of underhanded political and economic tactics. While no military force has been utilized as of yet (Terran government (which isn't even technically a government in the conventional sense, but more of an alliance of powerful corporations and dynasties) would rather worm their way into the galactic scene before using more aggressive strategies. Think of it being sort of like corporate colonial exploitation and bullying, like the British East Indian company during the colonial era), the rest of the galaxy is slowly (read: slowly. Word doesn't travel very fast across a vast galaxy) beginning to take note of human activity, and the generally immoral/sociopath behavior of humans. By the time the book begins, the rest of the galaxy has basically embargoed the human worlds in protest, leading to things like famines and other chaos to happen since human colonies are overpopulated and had grown dependent on union infrastructure and trade. This massively backfires on the rest of the galaxy, since the resentment this generates leads to the rise of a genocidal fascist regime with human-centric supremacist doctrines.

The story centers on characters living on one of the alien words currently being exploited by human corporations, how human ruthlessness impacts the economy of the world and it's society, and how corporate atrocities against the inhabitants eventually serve as the tipping point that turns the rest of the galaxy against the humans, only for that to then make things even worse. The rise of the fascist regime is a minor sideplot that slowly unfolds alongside the main story.

Part III: The great galactic war has been going on for 20 years, with humans crushing union forces (or its attempt at union forces more like it, since the vast majority of the aliens aren't even mentally or physically suited for fighting) at almost every turn. Only the large size of the union combined with overwhelming material and economic advantage allows them to slow down human advances. Even then they are still losing badly. But just as things start seeming hopeless, infighting among human factions forces them to sign a cease-fire with the union, thus saving the galaxy from doom, or at least for a while. Out of all the installments, this one will be the most dark by far, because the central subject matter is human cruelty.

The story centers on a peaceful cosmopolitan alien world home to a number of alien races, that suddenly finds itself occupied by Terran forces. The main characters and many others are then taken to death camps where they are forced to labor for the occupation forces, in addition to also being subjected to all kinds of other horrendous things (look up Unit 731 to get an idea of how dark this book will be). The main characters motive is merely to survive, and not die horribly. By the end of the book the humans are driven of the planet as a result of the cease-fire signed with the union, but the horrors of the experience, not to mention all the main character's brutally murdered friends and family, won't ever be forgotten.

Part IV: Focuses on the aftermath of the war and how life in the galaxy has changed following the prior events of all the previous books. The galaxy has basically split into two different regions: One controlled by the alien union races, and another more "lawless" region in which the worlds controlled by the humans have split into their own mini-empires, and who are warring with one another. Despite this state of affairs, the union does not attempt to take advantage of the situation, having already suffered massive death tolls during the war and is just happy there is no more fighting. In spite of this, the rest of the galaxy has not forgotten the horrors of the war, and humans are openly hated and despised, not to mention extremely feared. Not that there are too many humans roaming around the galaxy (almost none in fact), since the various human factions fighting for power are all totalitarian and don't grant their subject peoples freedom of travel. This means humans are not only hated and feared, but are also largely mysterious to most galactic inhabitants, almost to the point of being folklore in some places.

The story focuses on a human deserter who escapes to an alien word, where he is received poorly by most of the locals, but makes some unlikely "friends", including an idealistic alien pcyatrist that has taken great interest in humans, and is convinced that they can be "reformed". Things don´t go quite as planned, however.

Man, this ended up being WAY longer and more detailed than I has expected it to be. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show how well thought out and planned my series are of novels are. I´m not just making shit up as I go along. I have a long term overarching plan. Unlike 90% of writers.

i legit don have the attention span to read this. If i do read it i will die of exhaustion dedsrs

 

[lutte]

You're not "blackpilled" you're brainwashed

elab?

 

[lutte]

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[Deleted member 5189]

elab?

You've been brainwashed. For someone who claims to have a high IQ, you're saying some of the dumbest shit. You joined a few online communities that resonated with your self-pity and you let that build a brick wall around any actual logic or reason you're otherwise capable of.

There are practically an equal amount of both men and women who are vain and attracted to physical traits before anything else. You clearly think this is a woman thing, but you're the one directly guilty of it here, caring first and foremost about women "in their physical prime" as if that has any bearing on who that person is as an individual or a partner. Being physically attracted to your partner isn't a bad thing, but it shouldn't be the foundation of a relationship.

Do you think a relationship is all about how physically attracted you are to each other? That it's just about having sex with each other? Surely you wouldn't think that because of how high your IQ is and how much of a feminist ally you are, but being in "their physical prime" is legitmately the only thing you mentioned in your post as if that was the priority. Your expressions here are the stereotype behavior of the dude who gets an attractive girlfriend, argues about anything she wants to do outside of sex and video games, then acts betrayed when she leaves your ass for someone who actually wants to be a partner. Do you really think dating a dude would be any different?

Get away from the idea that displaying the number of your IQ or announcing that it's high is actually going to get you anywhere or means anything significant to your bearing as a person. It doesn't, and only the worst kind of people pin it to their conversations as a badge of honor. Glad you're so smart but how about now start acting like you have a high IQ and know better than to think anyone worth your time gives a shit about what your high score is.

Get a physical hobby or learn an actual skill. I'm saying this as a dude who used to abuse prescription amphetamines for YEARS to stay awake longer to play StarCraft, DotA, League, and a variety of FPS games competitively. I was in far deeper mentally and emotionally than I think even you can imagine: I'm not saying get off your computer permanently, to stop browsing reddit and stop playing games at all, but get offline more often and develop a personality away from trying to sculpt one to bait a relationship. Get on YouTube and learn how to build a cabinet, or how to fix a sink, or how to carve a live branch into a wooden trinket. Learn to draw, learn a new language, how to fix holes in drywall, fucking anything useful. Make a hobby out of something that doesn't involve trying to impress someone, from crossstitch, gardening, and learning how to make bread.. to smoking meat or peppers, building a makeshift forge, and using it to hammer homemade knives. Learn to actually work for something so that when you're expected to put in some work for a relationship your response isn't "this is bullshit."

Having a relationship in your 30s isn't a bad thing. Dating anyone over 30 isn't some dedicated marked hill of decline for physical wellness. Not every woman "experiments" in her 20s and more guys do so than you're acknowledging.

Once you fully and actually dedicate yourself to your own health and hobby(ies), having joined a community where the goal is to share or learn something about your hobby or skill from each other and make friends, that's when you'll find yourself in a relationship. When you break the habit of focusing on how "in their prime" a person is and more on the traits that make a person a good friend especially in the ways that you also reciprocate as a good friend... That's when you'll find yourself being in a relationship. When your expectations are most importantly about how a person looks instead of how they treat others around them, you're setting yourself up for failure. Learn to be a good friend before pretending you'll ever be a good partner.

 

[disillusioned]

Bump.

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

Yeah its like with movies or almost any media, 99% of it is trash, people think there is some formula or specific path to painting a really good painting or making a really good movie, as if you can divide all the cinematic elements and put them is such an order and have a good movie. Its just easy for normies to read about “how to write a good novel” and follow some shitty formula instead of thinking creatively and trying new things and doing something unique and interesting. Professional writers are no more interesting than any obscure book I can find at the library

 

[johncruz12345]

Cool book bro.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[oldcell]

HArd to enjoy most mainstream novels and movies as a blackpilled person, if u see under cover