getting out of the dead end job trap is more important then surgery and looksmaxxing.

jfl why are people disagreeing with this thread

get a good job theory

imagine thinking getting pussy and being academically/financially successful are mutually exclusive
 
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what about drug dealing and crime in general?
heavily glamourised, i’ve been there and that life really isn’t the money printer people think it is. if you want to make serious money, you need to be a gang member or else you will get locked up (gangs and orgs provide infrastructure to their members) solo drug dealers either don’t make much money, or get arrested.

if anything, crime is more contact dependent than regular jobs. you can maybe get a foot in the door through darknets and you might know a couple local weed guys, but that won’t be enough to make a decent income that’s worth the risk and danger.
 
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Get an office job like a business analyst, software engineer, data analyst , scrum master etc

Starting wages around 30k after a few years 50-60k once you get some experience 80-100k

and if you're good i've seen motherfuckers contracting out here for £1200 a day.
 
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OP how do I cope with going back to university at 22 to pursue a very long education (orthodontist school). I will make bank at 31 years old but the average zoomer will graduate at 22 and start working there, meanwhile I won't make a dime until 30. Over
 
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jfl why are people disagreeing with this thread

get a good job theory

imagine thinking getting pussy and being academically/financially successful are mutually exclusive
users think losing there virginity is all that anyone could possibly need to be happy, and that maximum life fulfilment is achieved forever when you have sex.

it’s ok, I was 16 once as well.
 
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users think losing there virginity is all that anyone could possibly need to be happy, and that maximum life fulfilment is achieved forever when you have sex.

it’s ok, I was 16 once as well.
Losing virginity late is EXTREMELY brutal. Because sex to you becomes this mystified, abstract holy thing and you kill yourself with feelings of missing out. Until you realize when you lose it that it doesn't mean shit. I put my entire life on hold because I was so depressed from being a sex starved rat


Now I'm starting over...
 
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OP how do I cope with going back to university at 22 to pursue a very long education (orthodontist school). I will make bank at 31 years old but the average zoomer will graduate at 22 and start working there, meanwhile I won't make a dime until 30. Over
if you are living with parents then you will still have chances to earn money. things inevitably will be delayed for you, accept this.

but also remember that when you graduate and become a top dentist, you will have absurd status and wealth. it will be worth it but it won’t be easy.you ceiling for earning will be higher than anyone else’s and you will be socialising with the top tier of society, smart, successful people.

I am only advocating for users to have decent jobs that won’t destroy them, you are a step above for doing something like dentistry.
 
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if you are living with parents then you will still have chances to earn money. things inevitably will be delayed for you, accept this.

but also remember that when you graduate and become a top dentist, you will have absurd status and wealth. it will be worth it but it won’t be easy.you ceiling for earning will be higher than anyone else’s and you will be socialising with the top tier of society, smart, successful people.

I am only advocating for users to have decent jobs that won’t destroy them, you are a step above for doing something like dentistry.
Yeah I'm living with parents and will graduate with 0 education fees. It's a full scholarship. But being a 22 yo oldcel haunts me. Whatever, it is what it is, I have a 27 yo in my class


I wish you luck on your journey boyo
 
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Losing virginity late is EXTREMELY brutal. Because sex to you becomes this mystified, abstract holy thing and you kill yourself with feelings of missing out. Until you realize when you lose it that it doesn't mean shit. I put my entire life on hold because I was so depressed from being a sex starved rat


Now I'm starting over...
what’s happened cant be changed. the longer you dwell on regrets, the more time you waste. just move forward.
 
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took me a while to read it
I think it's over 4 me
just get a job in a warehouse or something if you're not smart (or benefits lol).
Work is always gonna be depressing as shit
 
learning seo and making money off of a website i own and shiet and im getting into sales at university will study business and go into tech/ big pharma sales will be good pay thoughts?
 
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Lol being a heavy truck driver is brutal.. you’re on road for 18 hours some days, no wonder it’s mostly Indians who drive heavy trucks here
Basically with a trucking job the goal is to do it for a set amount of years, save your stack then quit

Grind mode
You accept certain things like little to no spare time and go through with it as a sacrifice
 
If you just lock yourself in a room for 2-3 years and study all day (6-8 hours) you will be at a level to compete with the tryhard asians and pajeets at top ivy league unis or oxbridge. From there you just aim for 2:1 and the world is your oyster
Do you know any ways to cheat your way into a top level school ik nothing is guaranteed but I also know it can be done.
 
Do you know any ways to cheat your way into a top level school ik nothing is guaranteed but I also know it can be done.
It's pretty to easy to do in the UK, if you are daring enough and have done a lot of research into the college application process.

Getting into a top school fraudulently is the easy part. The hard part is not getting found out in the 3-4 years whilst you're there. There have been many people who have photoshopped exam certificates and got into top schools like Cambridge or Oxford, but then they started struggling with the workload and their application was looked at again more closely and was found to be fraudulent. They brought too much attention to themselves because they weren't ready for those top schools.

My advice to you? Submit some fake college applications (On a VPN ofc) and figure out how the process works. Figure out which pieces of information require proof. Figure out how they verify this information. And then you decide which parts you want to do fraudently.

Food for thought:

If the US application process is similar to UK, then if you do terribly in the SAT/ACT you can just retake it. Keep retaking it until your scores match the pajeets and rice cels. And when you submit your college application don't mention anything about the retakes

For US college applications, you need SAT/ACT and a GPA from school right? How does the GPA work for homeschooled applicants? Is it possible they can pay to sit school exams in an exam centre and get a GPA? We have something similar in the UK for people who wish to retake A-levels

For the purposes of the college application, you are gay and african american or some other unrepresented group in colleges. Unis in the UK have something called contextual admissions. It's a thing where they try to get people from disadvantaged and underrepresented groups into uni. Unis in US have the same thing believe it's called affirmative action? Also if you have a family member who lives in a shit area, pretend you are living with them because they look at zipcodes to determine if you grew up disadvantaged.

just keep researching and experimenting
 
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It's pretty to easy to do in the UK, if you are daring enough and have done a lot of research into the college application process.

Getting into a top school fraudulently is the easy part. The hard part is not getting found out in the 3-4 years whilst you're there. There have been many people who have photoshopped exam certificates and got into top schools like Cambridge or Oxford, but then they started struggling with the workload and their application was looked at again more closely and was found to be fraudulent. They brought too much attention to themselves because they weren't ready for those top schools.

My advice to you? Submit some fake college applications (On a VPN ofc) and figure out how the process works. Figure out which pieces of information require proof. Figure out how they verify this information. And then you decide which parts you want to do fraudently.

Food for thought:

If the US application process is similar to UK, then if you do terribly in the SAT/ACT you can just retake it. Keep retaking it until your scores match the pajeets and rice cels. And when you submit your college application don't mention anything about the retakes

For US college applications, you need SAT/ACT and a GPA from school right? How does the GPA work for homeschooled applicants? Is it possible they can pay to sit school exams in an exam centre and get a GPA? We have something similar in the UK for people who wish to retake A-levels

For the purposes of the college application, you are gay and african american or some other unrepresented group in colleges. Unis in the UK have something called contextual admissions. It's a thing where they try to get people from disadvantaged and underrepresented groups into uni. Unis in US have the same thing believe it's called affirmative action? Also if you have a family member who lives in a shit area, pretend you are living with them because they look at zipcodes to determine if you grew up disadvantaged.

just keep researching and experimenting
Thanks a lot I live in the Us so I’ll definitely do this and not sure how it is in the UK but GPA goes from 0.05 to 5.0 which is the highest but would require all AP classes, we have personal statements which are essays you send to admissions officers about yourself but these can be easily frauded by paying professional writers on Fiverr to do it, due to Covid Most ivy leagues are test optional meaning they don’t require SAT scores so I don’t see a reason to submit them unless you have a stand out score, what I’m most interested in is getting on a zoom call or an in person meeting with an admissions officer, because this would set me apart from anyone else and majorly increase chances of getting into the school in question.
 
Get an office job like a business analyst, software engineer, data analyst , scrum master etc

Starting wages around 30k after a few years 50-60k once you get some experience 80-100k

and if you're good i've seen motherfuckers contracting out here for £1200 a day.
Contracting fees aren’t how much you get paid - that’s how much your company makes. I’m a £400/day contractor but that’s not what I get paid as a day rate- it’s less than half
 
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Contracting fees aren’t how much you get paid - that’s how much your company makes. I’m a £400/day contractor but that’s not what I get paid as a day rate- it’s less than half

Some contractors work through their own limited companies
 
legit
 
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I think a good looking guy with a shit job would be much happier and have a more fulfilling life than an ugly guy with a good job.
 
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Good shit OP. Planning to stemcel at top uni for the next four years so I can get big monies for my surgeries!!!
 
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I think a good looking guy with a shit job would be much happier and have a more fulfilling life than an ugly guy with a good job.
So get a good job which gives money and then there is a chance you can ascend to good looks.
 
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if you are 16,
good thread op, what would u recommend for a 16 y/o

learning to drive is the best thing you can do. also working a part time job.

also studying hard as boring and generic as that advice is you will benefit massively in a few years.

aside from that try and form some good memories to look back on.
 
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I weep for all you future betabuxxers :blackpill::feelswhy::ROFLMAO:.
 
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A lot of money
Exactly. Caging at this guy with his "muh beta bucks" when op is just saying to have a good job and get money. What you do with that money is up to you.
 
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dead fucking serious, the amount of people I meet in their 30s, 40s, or older stuck in the low wage dead end jobs is honestly shocking, and the number of people falling into this trap is getting larger and larger.

I can already tell who in my university peer group is going to end up one of these people (who at best will be a retail manager/call center supervisor) and its easily half.

more young people then ever these days are checking out and taking the path of least resistance; which leads to being in these dead end jobs. but what people dont understand is that low tier jobs are often the ones that take the most toll on you. companies treat warehouse staff, retail employees, fastfood/kitchen workers like they arent even human. you have to do the most demanding jobs, for the lowest pay, with the worse treatment. the top tier you can get in this kind of position is to a supervisor role. which usually pays only 10/20% more then the base role you get promoted from :lul:

if you think your mental health or whatever is too bad to try and improve your education and get a better job now, imagine how you feel after 10 years of minimum wage slavery where the equipment is considered more valuable then the staff. im serious here, see how management react to equipment/stock damage vs staff injury or even death.

the people in these jobs are literally cattle, your soul is eaten away and you become a husk of a person. a true NPC.

trust me you dont want to be in that spot. how are you going to feel when you get to 30, and you tell people 'yeah I work in a tesco/walmart/warehouse staff'. sure maybe you focused on looksmaxxing and got a couple surgerys over the decade that you probably realised you didnt really need, making you somewhat gl, but you are basically in the same job as a 20 year old or teenager.

when you have optimism and hope for your life getting better, it is hard to imagine how people become drug addicts and alcoholics. these addicts are ALWAYS stuck in dead end jobs

so anyone reading this, go to university and get a degree in STEM, law, or a medical field, and make sure you do WELL at it. even meme degrees can help you get into cushy HR positions and the like, the kind of bullshit job that doesnt kill you but has room for progression and pays well for minimum actual work done. get IT certifications or learn to code (if you can get the CCNA and a couple MCP certs, youll be making serious cash after. a couple years, even if its a boring job like network admin, youll be sucessful and in demand). take up a trade like welding if you are the independent type and dont mind some physical labour.

probably the most viable option for a low iq, low motivatio, anti social looksmaxxer is TRUCKING. in the UK, their is a huge shortage of articulated truck drivers. if you can grind and get your HGV (heavy goods Vehicle) licence, you can walk into a job paying £37500 plus with basically no experience, companies are desperate for these people. its cheap to get the licence, it wont destroy your body (just driving) many companies will pay for it.

above all, you HAVE to accept that at some point, you will struggle and have to grind, so that later in life, you can relax.

yes, it is much harder now then for previous generations, yes a recession is currently happening, but that is no excuse. it is harder to get up to the top, but the rewards are greater. similarly, the suffering of those at the bottom is also harsher. that should be all the motivation you need to pull yourself up.

a saving grace is that if you are under the age of 25, your competition is pathetic. it is mentally ill lazy normies, low iq immigrants, and a handful of motivated inidicudals. your true competition are the career established millenials, manager gen Xers, and lead poisoned boomer bosses. you need to get ahead whilst you are young, because in a few years time, the people around you will realise that fucking about, travelling, partying, etc, has not given them anything, and they will start fighting with you for good jobs. if you want to be rich and sucessful you MUST have that realisation BEFORE they do.

ignore side hustle bullshit if you arent already financially secure. you need money to make money, and to get that money you need a well paying job.

you may as well do it now whilst you are young and have neuroplasticity and time on your side. even if you fail and go back to rotting, at least you gave it a shot.

all people reading this, I challenge you to gain at least one marketable skill in the next year.
if you are already at university, do some kind of additional thing.

this can be any kind of internship, certification, course, licence, or retake a qualification you failed at school, or start college. it doesnt have to be challenging, a lot of small positive changes will really help you. remember: the alternative is literally worse then death.
Yeah working in retail was what motivated me to try harder in life. I saw people in their later 20's to 60's doing jobs I learned how to do in a week.

Some of the people were just stupid nothing wrong with working at your level. But 90% had nothing major wrong with them I never asked because it would rude but I always wondered what led them to that point. Getting stuck in such a life would drive me to alcoholism.

I mean I can understand wanting an easy job but working at retail would be hell on earth better to just get an office job then get good enough to finish your work quickly and act busy the rest of the day
 
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Yeah working in retail was what motivated me to try harder in life. I saw people in their later 20's to 60's doing jobs I learned how to do in a week.

Some of the people were just stupid nothing wrong with working at your level. But 90% had nothing major wrong with them I never asked because it would rude but I always wondered what led them to that point. Getting stuck in such a life would drive me to alcoholism.

I mean I can understand wanting an easy job but working at retail would be hell on earth better to just get an office job then get good enough to finish your work quickly and act busy the rest of the day
Well you gotta extend some empathy too, gotta learn why. I'n my factory job I've gotten to know a guy in his 50's, and initially I thought why is someone so old still doing factory work, talked with him while working for a couple of hours and he revealed that he had his own restaurant for 26 years, but his wife died and he sold it due to not being able to bear doing it alone.

But, working factory jobs is definitely some of the best motivation to grind for a career I've gotten.
 
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Lol being a heavy truck driver is brutal.. you’re on road for 18 hours some days, no wonder it’s mostly Indians who drive heavy trucks here
Lol it must be retarded America with no proper laws I guess.
Of course truck drivers is not easy peasy - you are responsible for load, you need to watch to not get fines etc. BUT all you need to do is driving license that you can get in 6 months of training and then you earn more than average pay.
 
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OP how do I cope with going back to university at 22 to pursue a very long education (orthodontist school). I will make bank at 31 years old but the average zoomer will graduate at 22 and start working there, meanwhile I won't make a dime until 30. Over
Im starting this year in engineering. Im 30 fucking years old.
In my case: its better to be 34 with engineering degree than to be 34 without engineering degree.
In your case: its better to be poor till 30 than to be poor till 70.
 
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I think a good looking guy with a shit job would be much happier and have a more fulfilling life than an ugly guy with a good job.
Except its not you who decide if you are ugly or not in most cases. I mean you can looksmaxx only to the point - if you are hideous af you already wont be that happy handsome guy, so be at least this rich ugly guy instead poorcel.
 
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Im starting this year in engineering. Im 30 fucking years old.
In my case: its better to be 34 with engineering degree than to be 34 without engineering degree.
In your case: its better to be poor till 30 than to be poor till 70.
Legit. But it's always gnawing away at my confidence at the back of my mind. I'll be with classmates 4 years younger than me. I will lie. What about you?
 
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Legit. But it's always gnawing away at my confidence at the back of my mind. I'll be with classmates 4 years younger than me. I will lie. What about you?
I won't lie. I will be with people 10 years younger, but there's always a few people that are older.
When I was studying my previous degree as young man, I met a few older people taking same classes - first of all its not so special and it happens a lot, secondly this older people were usually one of bests because thanks to older age they knew exactly what they wanted and why they are doing it - if they didn't want to study this particular field they would have never been there, so they study a lot on their own. Most young people on the other hand don't know why they are studying field they are studying, young people are often thinking that they should change fields, they are naive, they want just to pass, they blame their parents for implying standards on them etc.
So usually older people have their mentality shifted properly, and that's an advantage for them.
 
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I won't lie. I will be with people 10 years younger, but there's always a few people that are older.
When I was studying my previous degree as young man, I met a few older people taking same classes - first of all its not so special and it happens a lot, secondly this older people were usually one of bests because thanks to older age they knew exactly what they wanted and why they are doing it - if they didn't want to study this particular field they would have never been there, so they study a lot on their own. Most young people on the other hand don't know why they are studying field they are studying, young people are often thinking that they should change fields, they are naive, they want just to pass, they blame their parents for implying standards on them etc.
So usually older people have their mentality shifted properly, and that's an advantage for them.
Legit. I'm much more motivated to study now than I was when I was 18. I guess me and you will just need yo retire 5 years later than our peers to compensate money wise
 
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Legit. I'm much more motivated to study now than I was when I was 18. I guess me and you will just need yo retire 5 years later than our peers to compensate money wise
Im from Europe and retirement system works here a bit different, so Im not even thinking about that (I think that in every country in Europe you simply have to pay fixed percent of your income for retirement as employee - doesn't matter if your gross salary is 2500 Euro or 5000 Euro or 50000 euros, and then you are payed pension based on how much thousands you contributed to the system).
But I wanted to add yet another thing to what I previously said: one medicine professor said that he never saw older medicine student to give up, but he sees all the time the younger one resigning. It's because if you are going to study something at older age you risk more if you don't get that degree, while younger people still can afford to waste few years.
 
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It's not a "trap". It's not like some smart successful guy gets "trapped" in one of these jobs and can't escape. They're all low IQ losers who have no work ethic to improve themselves.
 
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Bro I wish I could work earlier so this fucking realization could hit me earlier. I would literally fucking beat pre-16 year old me to a pulp if it made him realize how autistic not getting good grades for a good scholarship was. I’m probably gonna have to drown in debt for college.

Now only that I’ve worked in retail and fucking even worse in fast food experienced how fucking soul draining it is. I only recently started raising my grades but before that it was straight D’s and F’s.

With this starting school year I’m gonna bust my ass off for my grades, try getting a job as a firefighter with a friend that can put me on. I’d literally rather hurl myself at a flaming building then continue working in minimum wage
Came to the same realization as this when i was volunteering at a summercamp, at least I never got "bad" grades my average is around 85 but still I can do a lot better.
 
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OP how do I cope with going back to university at 22 to pursue a very long education (orthodontist school). I will make bank at 31 years old but the average zoomer will graduate at 22 and start working there, meanwhile I won't make a dime until 30. Over
how long would it be if you started at 18? when would you graduate
 
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how long would it be if you started at 18? when would you graduate
I would be 28 if everything went perfectly. Now I'll be done at around 31. It is what it is
 
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There are 2 jobs that are S-tier. TV licence inspector and security guard. You literally do nothing and get paid for it.
Security guard you have to stand all day. And you will absolutely REGRET it or just die the ONE day some crazy ER shoots up your workplace or some nig robs you and you get into a shootout
 
 
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most jobs are hindrances to fulfilling the human soul. sometimes, it's good to get a low skill low wage job if it lets you express your true self. ie roadkill collectors if you're like jeffrey dahmer. i feel he could have ended up being normal if he were allowed to collect and have sex with animal carcasses.
 
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Needed this rn ngl
 
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I agree you shouldn’t work a shit dead end job but surgeries> anything else if you have the base
 
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@fucclife youre just going to ugh? Fucking cuck
 
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