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thankyou for your support <3more power to you bro keep on speaking waiting for your thread. This needs to be heard at every cost.
Can you share with us the surgical problems you are experiencing? Hasn't he made an adjustment date to fix your implants yet, or is he not responding?i like you seeked giant implants for custom made facial implants. i gave a brief on what i wanted and it was up to his expertise to bring it to life. i also had previos implants that looked good and i asked him to measure the good side accordingly and match it up to the other side. he assured me that the new implants would be a much better shape and contour and in fact the size will be exactly the same so i dont lose the projection and shape i had on the good side. mind you this process was very difficult with the constant delays in replies and having to send messeges over and over again just to get something done ( this should have been sign not to pursue). after many months i had my surgery and apart from many surgical errors in the OR ( thats for a different thread), my implants were disasterous. the dimensions, shapes, sizes of the implants were just terrible. the cheeks for eg were so large and made so poorly i actually was waiting for someone to come up to me and say i have been. "punked". this is not the swelling i am talking about. this is the raw implants. think madonna/lil kim. my jaw was made worse and made smaller than what i had. ( my old jaw done by someone else was 1000 times better than what i was given). so much for "your new jaw will be a much better contour and better shape than what you have trust me". my face transformed from a nice looking face into a bloated mess. after many months i had confronted giant to discuss how bad these implants were and showed examples of what i used to have and what i have now. he had agreed that the implants were not done well and he will do them again free of charge and that issues regarding the implants "falls on him". he said dont worry i will be prioritised and will be ahead of everyone else.
for the last 15 months after hundreds of messeges, empty promises, setbacks, excuses, gaslighting, narcisism,psycological trauma i am still waiting on my revision and it has not happened. as youre aware from previous threads a surgery date was finally made after nearly a year. i checked everyday leading up to it for confirmation if i can book my plane ticket because it is non refundable and he said " yes go for it we will be ready". so i did. and then more drama started. the math was not adding up. in the weeks leading up to surgery he stil had failed showing me any designs for me to confirm even after telling me hes already done them and they look great. ofcourse i wanted a say in my implants considering how bad he designed them the first time. but he never showed me. and he never sent them to the lab for manufacturing. i started to worry because my flight was coming up and my surgery was booked. then he started ignoring me for weeks on end. who does that to a patient?? i then flew to istanbul as he knew my surgery was coming up and i had a non refundable ticket. he stood me up. he never was there and was too busy partying his life away in. thailand. he cost me thousands of dollars money and when i messged him that i was in turkey he finally replied with "hows that?". i was so angry that he completly ignored my surgery and didnt even bother explaining himself. its always an excuse beyong his control and always makes himself out the victim. " im so busy , im stressed, ive had something come up, im sick". please we all are. then he proceeded to offer to pay for my flights back. he never did. because for 15 months i have been lied so and he still hasnt got my case done. he forgets what he has said and starts a new narrative every couple of months. safe to say i have endured more than enough. i am being punished for speaking up about my implants and how bad they are because god forbid i question " the greatest most experianced implant desigber of all time".
my money has been taken, i was promised a revision, it never happened and ive been lied to at every chance. this is not the workings of a ethical medical provider. infact i dont even know what his qualifcations are. if things are done legally? who knows. ill leave that to others to investigate.
there is much more i will write in depth on a new thread. there were surgical issues aswell but this reply is focused on the implants only. but i will say to add to the disaster my left cheek implant was misplaced and the xray i have shows it and it was confirmed my giant. and my chin also. so even after all that they couldnt even place them correctly.
im not hear to tell anyone what decision to make. but would you really trust someone who cannot be contacted, takes weeks to reply,takes your money/ wont finish a service, doesnt have a practice/personal assistant, who gaslights patients, wont take accountability. once he has been paid. he dont care no more. dont think that youve finally made it once you progress. ive been waiting all this time for what is right and what is owed to me. but he seems to punish me by doing other projects even though he would say to me all last year that " you are next on the case, there is noone else ahead of you, i usually dont work weekends but for you i will. you are so close to finishing, your surgery will be next week, next month, next two months". honestly the whole thing was one big lie.
he was never interested in finishing off my case. he enjoyed having the authority to control me and have power over me. his very own client. unbelievable and a classic narcisist type personality.
good luck.
@RealSurgerymax ??i like you seeked giant implants for custom made facial implants. i gave a brief on what i wanted and it was up to his expertise to bring it to life. i also had previos implants that looked good and i asked him to measure the good side accordingly and match it up to the other side. he assured me that the new implants would be a much better shape and contour and in fact the size will be exactly the same so i dont lose the projection and shape i had on the good side. mind you this process was very difficult with the constant delays in replies and having to send messeges over and over again just to get something done ( this should have been sign not to pursue). after many months i had my surgery and apart from many surgical errors in the OR ( thats for a different thread), my implants were disasterous. the dimensions, shapes, sizes of the implants were just terrible. the cheeks for eg were so large and made so poorly i actually was waiting for someone to come up to me and say i have been. "punked". this is not the swelling i am talking about. this is the raw implants. think madonna/lil kim. my jaw was made worse and made smaller than what i had. ( my old jaw done by someone else was 1000 times better than what i was given). so much for "your new jaw will be a much better contour and better shape than what you have trust me". my face transformed from a nice looking face into a bloated mess. after many months i had confronted giant to discuss how bad these implants were and showed examples of what i used to have and what i have now. he had agreed that the implants were not done well and he will do them again free of charge and that issues regarding the implants "falls on him". he said dont worry i will be prioritised and will be ahead of everyone else.
for the last 15 months after hundreds of messeges, empty promises, setbacks, excuses, gaslighting, narcisism,psycological trauma i am still waiting on my revision and it has not happened. as youre aware from previous threads a surgery date was finally made after nearly a year. i checked everyday leading up to it for confirmation if i can book my plane ticket because it is non refundable and he said " yes go for it we will be ready". so i did. and then more drama started. the math was not adding up. in the weeks leading up to surgery he stil had failed showing me any designs for me to confirm even after telling me hes already done them and they look great. ofcourse i wanted a say in my implants considering how bad he designed them the first time. but he never showed me. and he never sent them to the lab for manufacturing. i started to worry because my flight was coming up and my surgery was booked. then he started ignoring me for weeks on end. who does that to a patient?? i then flew to istanbul as he knew my surgery was coming up and i had a non refundable ticket. he stood me up. he never was there and was too busy partying his life away in. thailand. he cost me thousands of dollars money and when i messged him that i was in turkey he finally replied with "hows that?". i was so angry that he completly ignored my surgery and didnt even bother explaining himself. its always an excuse beyong his control and always makes himself out the victim. " im so busy , im stressed, ive had something come up, im sick". please we all are. then he proceeded to offer to pay for my flights back. he never did. because for 15 months i have been lied so and he still hasnt got my case done. he forgets what he has said and starts a new narrative every couple of months. safe to say i have endured more than enough. i am being punished for speaking up about my implants and how bad they are because god forbid i question " the greatest most experianced implant desigber of all time".
my money has been taken, i was promised a revision, it never happened and ive been lied to at every chance. this is not the workings of a ethical medical provider. infact i dont even know what his qualifcations are. if things are done legally? who knows. ill leave that to others to investigate.
there is much more i will write in depth on a new thread. there were surgical issues aswell but this reply is focused on the implants only. but i will say to add to the disaster my left cheek implant was misplaced and the xray i have shows it and it was confirmed my giant. and my chin also. so even after all that they couldnt even place them correctly.
im not hear to tell anyone what decision to make. but would you really trust someone who cannot be contacted, takes weeks to reply,takes your money/ wont finish a service, doesnt have a practice/personal assistant, who gaslights patients, wont take accountability. once he has been paid. he dont care no more. dont think that youve finally made it once you progress. ive been waiting all this time for what is right and what is owed to me. but he seems to punish me by doing other projects even though he would say to me all last year that " you are next on the case, there is noone else ahead of you, i usually dont work weekends but for you i will. you are so close to finishing, your surgery will be next week, next month, next two months". honestly the whole thing was one big lie.
he was never interested in finishing off my case. he enjoyed having the authority to control me and have power over me. his very own client. unbelievable and a classic narcisist type personality.
good luck.
agreed on the turkey part that is what makes it fishyGiant might have some good designs, but on the other hand he still has many botches that he doesn't acknowledged
And probably the worst patient communication support in the world
Furthermore he's in love with Turkroaches surgeons that pay him to promote them and come to their butcher clinics.
He then claim Turkey isn't a shithole while surgeons there just need to bribe to get their MD and surgeon's Degrees
Sounds like a complete clusterufuck.update. giant cancelled my case last night because i have a lawyer and because of my "horror story" online. regardless of me pursuing my legal rights he should be acting in good faith and finishing off my designs and fixing up his mess. but he has not and ive known this for quite some time and continueslly gave him the benefit of the doubt. i am now 10s of thousands dollars out of pocket from surgical errors from dr, misplaced implants, poorly designed implants which which he admitted were not done well, offered a complete revision of all implants with a priority service. none of this happened. i was only told what i wanted to hear. safe to say i am done. i am appaled and disgusted by this provider and con. no ethical provider would do this and quite frankly im starting to think this is just a money making scam to fund his lifestyle and botched patients are ignored and left high and dry. i am dealing with a entitled brat who had everything cleaned up for him in life and when things get tough he runs away and doesnt face problems. let this be a warning for anyone forking out thousands of dollars and being taken for a ride. one complications you are dead to him.
my reply is as follows.
Because you have fed me lies for 15 months. Havnt done a single thing regarding MY case, continually changed the narrative to make you look better when it’s not working, further gaslighted any chance you got and literally scheduled a implant and surgery date in front of your Eyes and stood me up. I gave you a million chances and you still havnt come come to the table with a single thing.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt over 6 MONTHS ago when i became vocal about my experience to advocate for others and in that 6 months you have done jack shit, infact the last 6 months have been worse than the first 10. Take a look in mirror and realise you’re the problem!
And then you further attempt to play the victim and say “ why would I do anything” give me A break.
you havnt done a single thing and you never probably will or would have.
Pursuing my legal rights is not waste of time. I don’t walk away from something like this lightly and I’m taking it to the very end. And I don’t appreciate being lied to.
You took from me and now I have nothing more to lose. Empty promises of implants, flights etc. your long term memory proceeds you.
It’s not a horror story at all. News flash that is a honest trustworthy review of my experience. I have received immense support from this online community and I will not be silenced anymore.
You have never wanted to complete my case and you know. It. you couldnt even uber 5 minutes and meet me in Istanbul to get this sorted once and for all let alone zoom me.
You don’t get to dicate this case anymore. I have already provided all evidence from the last 2 years to my lawyers and the Turkish courts will decide. This isn’t about the Dr only. And I will continue to share my honest experiance. People will use my experiance ( and others by the looks of it) and make their own minds up
i was nothing but nice to you and respectfully gave you all the time and patience but you abused that.
Good riddance.
what you mean?Sounds like a complete clusterufuck.
What's your background here?
Sorry, wasn't clear.what you mean?
i believe i have explained briefly in previous comments. just scroll back if you canSorry, wasn't clear.
I meant what was your initial procedure and what were the subsequent problems with it
I see. No worries. I've read through now.i believe i have explained briefly in previous comments. just scroll back if you can
Jesus, this is horrible, read all of ir posts jope u make a full thread of this so it gathers more attention. Also hoping u get somehow compensatedupdate. giant cancelled my case last night because i have a lawyer and because of my "horror story" online. regardless of me pursuing my legal rights he should be acting in good faith and finishing off my designs and fixing up his mess. but he has not and ive known this for quite some time and continueslly gave him the benefit of the doubt. i am now 10s of thousands dollars out of pocket from surgical errors from dr, misplaced implants, poorly designed implants which which he admitted were not done well, offered a complete revision of all implants with a priority service. none of this happened. i was only told what i wanted to hear. safe to say i am done. i am appaled and disgusted by this provider and con. no ethical provider would do this and quite frankly im starting to think this is just a money making scam to fund his lifestyle and botched patients are ignored and left high and dry. i am dealing with a entitled brat who had everything cleaned up for him in life and when things get tough he runs away and doesnt face problems. let this be a warning for anyone forking out thousands of dollars and being taken for a ride. one complications you are dead to him.
my reply is as follows.
Because you have fed me lies for 15 months. Havnt done a single thing regarding MY case, continually changed the narrative to make you look better when it’s not working, further gaslighted any chance you got and literally scheduled a implant and surgery date in front of your Eyes and stood me up. I gave you a million chances and you still havnt come come to the table with a single thing.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt over 6 MONTHS ago when i became vocal about my experience to advocate for others and in that 6 months you have done jack shit, infact the last 6 months have been worse than the first 10. Take a look in mirror and realise you’re the problem!
And then you further attempt to play the victim and say “ why would I do anything” give me A break.
you havnt done a single thing and you never probably will or would have.
Pursuing my legal rights is not waste of time. I don’t walk away from something like this lightly and I’m taking it to the very end. And I don’t appreciate being lied to.
You took from me and now I have nothing more to lose. Empty promises of implants, flights etc. your long term memory proceeds you.
It’s not a horror story at all. News flash that is a honest trustworthy review of my experience. I have received immense support from this online community and I will not be silenced anymore.
You have never wanted to complete my case and you know. It. you couldnt even uber 5 minutes and meet me in Istanbul to get this sorted once and for all let alone zoom me.
You don’t get to dicate this case anymore. I have already provided all evidence from the last 2 years to my lawyers and the Turkish courts will decide. This isn’t about the Dr only. And I will continue to share my honest experiance. People will use my experiance ( and others by the looks of it) and make their own minds up
i was nothing but nice to you and respectfully gave you all the time and patience but you abused that.
Good riddance.
thankyou <3Jesus, this is horrible, read all of ir posts jope u make a full thread of this so it gathers more attention. Also hoping u get somehow compensated
Idk its rly odd, but its a common horror story for those third world countries, maybe he rly just has no idea on how to achieve what you want and is just afraid it will go wrong again, anyway tag me when you make your thread cuz I wanna read that.thankyou <3
i truly do not understand the mind of some people. how freakin hard is it to knuckle down for a couple of hours. tick something off and complete a project. i guess some people enjoy tormenting patients and making them suffer for months/years on end. safe to say i am exhausted and done.
He never had a medical qualification from what i know and that makes me wonder why he doesn't like to perform in the US as much as in Turkey and Italy.i like you seeked giant implants for custom made facial implants. i gave a brief on what i wanted and it was up to his expertise to bring it to life. i also had previos implants that looked good and i asked him to measure the good side accordingly and match it up to the other side. he assured me that the new implants would be a much better shape and contour and in fact the size will be exactly the same so i dont lose the projection and shape i had on the good side. mind you this process was very difficult with the constant delays in replies and having to send messeges over and over again just to get something done ( this should have been sign not to pursue). after many months i had my surgery and apart from many surgical errors in the OR ( thats for a different thread), my implants were disasterous. the dimensions, shapes, sizes of the implants were just terrible. the cheeks for eg were so large and made so poorly i actually was waiting for someone to come up to me and say i have been. "punked". this is not the swelling i am talking about. this is the raw implants. think madonna/lil kim. my jaw was made worse and made smaller than what i had. ( my old jaw done by someone else was 1000 times better than what i was given). so much for "your new jaw will be a much better contour and better shape than what you have trust me". my face transformed from a nice looking face into a bloated mess. after many months i had confronted giant to discuss how bad these implants were and showed examples of what i used to have and what i have now. he had agreed that the implants were not done well and he will do them again free of charge and that issues regarding the implants "falls on him". he said dont worry i will be prioritised and will be ahead of everyone else.
for the last 15 months after hundreds of messeges, empty promises, setbacks, excuses, gaslighting, narcisism,psycological trauma i am still waiting on my revision and it has not happened. as youre aware from previous threads a surgery date was finally made after nearly a year. i checked everyday leading up to it for confirmation if i can book my plane ticket because it is non refundable and he said " yes go for it we will be ready". so i did. and then more drama started. the math was not adding up. in the weeks leading up to surgery he stil had failed showing me any designs for me to confirm even after telling me hes already done them and they look great. ofcourse i wanted a say in my implants considering how bad he designed them the first time. but he never showed me. and he never sent them to the lab for manufacturing. i started to worry because my flight was coming up and my surgery was booked. then he started ignoring me for weeks on end. who does that to a patient?? i then flew to istanbul as he knew my surgery was coming up and i had a non refundable ticket. he stood me up. he never was there and was too busy partying his life away in. thailand. he cost me thousands of dollars money and when i messged him that i was in turkey he finally replied with "hows that?". i was so angry that he completly ignored my surgery and didnt even bother explaining himself. its always an excuse beyong his control and always makes himself out the victim. " im so busy , im stressed, ive had something come up, im sick". please we all are. then he proceeded to offer to pay for my flights back. he never did. because for 15 months i have been lied so and he still hasnt got my case done. he forgets what he has said and starts a new narrative every couple of months. safe to say i have endured more than enough. i am being punished for speaking up about my implants and how bad they are because god forbid i question " the greatest most experianced implant desigber of all time".
my money has been taken, i was promised a revision, it never happened and ive been lied to at every chance. this is not the workings of a ethical medical provider. infact i dont even know what his qualifcations are. if things are done legally? who knows. ill leave that to others to investigate.
there is much more i will write in depth on a new thread. there were surgical issues aswell but this reply is focused on the implants only. but i will say to add to the disaster my left cheek implant was misplaced and the xray i have shows it and it was confirmed my giant. and my chin also. so even after all that they couldnt even place them correctly.
im not hear to tell anyone what decision to make. but would you really trust someone who cannot be contacted, takes weeks to reply,takes your money/ wont finish a service, doesnt have a practice/personal assistant, who gaslights patients, wont take accountability. once he has been paid. he dont care no more. dont think that youve finally made it once you progress. ive been waiting all this time for what is right and what is owed to me. but he seems to punish me by doing other projects even though he would say to me all last year that " you are next on the case, there is noone else ahead of you, i usually dont work weekends but for you i will. you are so close to finishing, your surgery will be next week, next month, next two months". honestly the whole thing was one big lie.
he was never interested in finishing off my case. he enjoyed having the authority to control me and have power over me. his very own client. unbelievable and a classic narcisist type personality.
good luck.
USA probably has strict rules and regulations like australia uk etc. turkey is a loopholeHe never had a medical qualification from what i know and that makes me wonder why he doesn't like to perform in the US as much as in Turkey and Italy.
Yes and that's why he isn't performing there, i am sorry for you, i never trusted this gay designer to begin with, he botched many people, many of them looked like a accident victim (my respect to them), those are the only words that can explain what i've seen.USA probably has strict rules and regulations like australia uk etc. turkey is a loophole
This will come across as harsh but after reading your background history, it seems like there were plenty of warning signs not to go ahead these procedures in the first place.i guess some people enjoy tormenting patients and making them suffer for months/years on end. safe to say i am exhausted and done.
I don't think there's any world in which I think someone respects me if they tell me I look like a car accident victim!he botched many people, many of them looked like a accident victim (my respect to them),
waiting for your thread to go BOTBupdate. giant cancelled my case last night because i have a lawyer and because of my "horror story" online. regardless of me pursuing my legal rights he should be acting in good faith and finishing off my designs and fixing up his mess. but he has not and ive known this for quite some time and continueslly gave him the benefit of the doubt. i am now 10s of thousands dollars out of pocket from surgical errors from dr, misplaced implants, poorly designed implants which which he admitted were not done well, offered a complete revision of all implants with a priority service. none of this happened. i was only told what i wanted to hear. safe to say i am done. i am appaled and disgusted by this provider and con. no ethical provider would do this and quite frankly im starting to think this is just a money making scam to fund his lifestyle and botched patients are ignored and left high and dry. i am dealing with a entitled brat who had everything cleaned up for him in life and when things get tough he runs away and doesnt face problems. let this be a warning for anyone forking out thousands of dollars and being taken for a ride. one complications you are dead to him.
my reply is as follows.
Because you have fed me lies for 15 months. Havnt done a single thing regarding MY case, continually changed the narrative to make you look better when it’s not working, further gaslighted any chance you got and literally scheduled a implant and surgery date in front of your Eyes and stood me up. I gave you a million chances and you still havnt come come to the table with a single thing.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt over 6 MONTHS ago when i became vocal about my experience to advocate for others and in that 6 months you have done jack shit, infact the last 6 months have been worse than the first 10. Take a look in mirror and realise you’re the problem!
And then you further attempt to play the victim and say “ why would I do anything” give me A break.
you havnt done a single thing and you never probably will or would have.
Pursuing my legal rights is not waste of time. I don’t walk away from something like this lightly and I’m taking it to the very end. And I don’t appreciate being lied to.
You took from me and now I have nothing more to lose. Empty promises of implants, flights etc. your long term memory proceeds you.
It’s not a horror story at all. News flash that is a honest trustworthy review of my experience. I have received immense support from this online community and I will not be silenced anymore.
You have never wanted to complete my case and you know. It. you couldnt even uber 5 minutes and meet me in Istanbul to get this sorted once and for all let alone zoom me.
You don’t get to dicate this case anymore. I have already provided all evidence from the last 2 years to my lawyers and the Turkish courts will decide. This isn’t about the Dr only. And I will continue to share my honest experiance. People will use my experiance ( and others by the looks of it) and make their own minds up
i was nothing but nice to you and respectfully gave you all the time and patience but you abused that.
Good riddance.
I don't think there's any world in which I think someone respects me if they tell me I look like a car accident victim!
I completely get what you're saying though and agree with the underlying point though.
Yes and that's why he isn't performing there, i am sorry for you, i never trusted this gay designer to begin with, he botched many people, many of them looked like a accident victim (my respect to them), those are the only words that can explain what i've seen.
thankyou. he knows exactly what needs to be done and how its done. hes even teased me by sending me the renders but would only tactfully send me one picture and angle of it in order to make me want more and beg for it. i think ive asked him about 50 times for other angles and dimensions of the renders but he would either deflect, leave me on read and not reply for about a month. he knows what he is doing and i know what he is doing. i have never dealt with a "provider" who plays these kind of games with his/her patients. im dealing with a child not a dr. and now im showing the world what he is like behind the scenes from a patient.Idk its rly odd, but its a common horror story for those third world countries, maybe he rly just has no idea on how to achieve what you want and is just afraid it will go wrong again, anyway tag me when you make your thread cuz I wanna read that.
never be a narcissist if u wanna help humanity and don’t be greedy.thankyou. he knows exactly what needs to be done and how its done. hes even teased me by sending me the renders but would only tactfully send me one picture and angle of it in order to make me want more and beg for it. i think ive asked him about 50 times for other angles and dimensions of the renders but he would either deflect, leave me on read and not reply for about a month. he knows what he is doing and i know what he is doing. i have never dealt with a "provider" who plays these kind of games with his/her patients. im dealing with a child not a dr. and now im showing the world what he is like behind the scenes from a patient.
Very big on this part.Whether it was the total lack of responsiveness from Giant
Just to be clear, I'm sympathetic too but he did make a series of bad decisions to find himself in this predicament.Very big on this part.
I wouldn't even buy a car from someone that responds once a month, let alone let someone like that plan my entire surgery.
I feel very bad for Pat and genuinely hope he makes the best from his situation, but there were a lot of signs...
agree with everything except you can sue. the irony is that the turkish gov takes aesthetic surgery/moral cases very seriously. its a booming economy for the country so they dont take these cases lightly especially when foreigners are involved.Then Giant dares promoting both Celal and Turkey claiming this country is first class and surgeons there do incredible groundbreaking work
Another proof he's just got paid by Turkroaches doctors to promote them on incel forum
I always hated Turks medics for a reason this country is a giant dictatorship bribery mess where anyone with money can pay to become surgeon
Then you can't sue because this is an outlaw country with no justice for patients, hence why they don't care botching 5% of patients because they risk nothing
i am a patient and have had terrible results and the revision i was promised to fix up the issues never happened. it got to a point where i was stood up in turkey and wasted money on flights and time off work because the revision never happened. even after everything was confirmed and told it will be ok. he never got any work done but made me believe it was done and i could buy tickets. he loved every minute of it. i will say more soon. i am here to advocate for future patients and people who dont have a voice or have been silenced.
The inframalar implants results?Results I've seen where the patient looks bad is due to the face being covered in implants. Haven't seen any results of him yet where a high level osteotomy was performed. Time will tell if Giant is a fraud or not when clav get's his lefort 2