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Lowkey wanna be a doctor just for the money, but I'm not passionate about it so I don't think it's gonna work out. Help convince me that it's bad so I don't keep having the thought at the back of my head of becoming a doctor jfl.
 
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You’re not gonna be a doctor bro
 
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imagine going into 10+ years of schooling to pursue something you don't even like....you'll burn out by your junior year and if you get lucky enough to get into med school and finally become a doctor end up a 30-year-old in tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars debt.

if you want money FAST pick another field.

with that being said I wanna become a doctor for the money
 
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reminder this is op
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Lowkey wanna be a doctor just for the money, but I'm not passionate about it so I don't think it's gonna work out. Help convince me that it's bad so I don't keep having the thought at the back of my head of becoming a doctor jfl.
I'm working in a hospital and studied medicine. The pay is absolute shit. I'm gonna move to the States, perhaps.
 
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In my country med school is free and I still won’t do it, I wouldn’t even it consider it if I had to go into debt for med school
 
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I'm working in a hospital and studied medicine. The pay is absolute shit. I'm gonna move to the States, perhaps.
Wait so u arent an investment banker?
 
In my country med school is free and I still won’t do it, I wouldn’t even it consider it if I had to go into debt for med school
why not, and is the pay good
 
You definitely do not have to be passionate about medicine to succeed in it as long as you are academically disciplined (to ace your board exams) and socially aggressive (to succeed in rotations and residency). I'm a 4th year medical student 3 months away from graduating and hopefully matching into radiology. I can reasonably expect to make 600k a year with 8 weeks of vacation in private practice in my 30s and practice for 30 years. That is on par or better in hourly rate and stress to work ratio compared to an investment banking VP or L6 SWE at FAANG but with 10x higher job security and stability.
 
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In private practice surgery you can reasonably expect to make 1M+ working around 50 hours a week once you are established. You can reasonably work 30+ years like this and retire with 40M+ if you are frugal and invest. The highest paid docs at my school which files annual salary reports are: interventional cardiology at 3.5M and several neurosurgeons around 2M.

Most slept on specialty right now is psychiatry:


800K compensation for a new grad. Mindlessly throwing SSRIs or antipsychotics at everyone and pretending to listen to them.

Compare that to SWE, surgery or radiology where you are hyperfocused doing extremely technical work and if you happen to fuck up a few times your career is now in jeopardy.

On my psychiatry rotation the attending psychiatrist showed up at 9:00 AM, "saw" his 10 patients in 20 minutes and was out the door at 9:30 AM to his next job(s). Got paid 270k a year for this joke of a "job". Mogs basically every technical career in both hourly rate and stress to pay ratio.
 
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Doctor: no way you don't get rich
 
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Doctor: no way you don't get rich
Only after slaving through premed, med school and then residency until your early-mid thirties then you start getting big bucks but first you pay off debt.
 
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Only after slaving through premed, med school and then residency until your early-mid thirties then you start getting big bucks but first you pay off debt.
I'll be 32 when I finish fellowship, I have a classmate who will finish psychiatry residency at 29. Many doctors do not graduate with debt; med school is filled with trust fund babies myself included.
 
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Lowkey wanna be a doctor just for the money, but I'm not passionate about it so I don't think it's gonna work out. Help convince me that it's bad so I don't keep having the thought at the back of my head of becoming a doctor jfl.
You will be a satanist jews pet and help to kill 1000s of people
 
You will be a satanist jews pet and help to kill 1000s of people
Definitely true that the more dark triad you are the more you will make in this field. One of the few fields where the income disparity between good samaritans and dark triad sociopaths can be multiplicative. Examples:
LL doctors and Beverly Hills plastic surgeons making 8 figures a year net non-stop marketing their questionable services.
Inpatient doctors seeing 40 patients a day while their colleagues are seeing 10 a day.
Spine surgeons pushing their services on every man, woman and child who walks through their door regardless of indication.
Pill mill psychiatry mega-practices where the psychiatrist is just signing scripts from their 10 midlevels who are non-stop prescribing xanax and Adderall seeing 30 patients a day. There's actually a real life example of this in my city and I would estimate the guy is taking home 6M a year net.
 
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Only after slaving through premed, med school and then residency until your early-mid thirties then you start getting big bucks but first you pay off debt.
In my country you can do it for free but only if you're extremely high iq
 
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You will be dedicating your life to a society that gives 0 shits about you and disrespects you just for being born (if you're not gl), also you will rot away your youth assuming you are gl
 
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In private practice surgery you can reasonably expect to make 1M+ working around 50 hours a week once you are established. You can reasonably work 30+ years like this and retire with 40M+ if you are frugal and invest. The highest paid docs at my school which files annual salary reports are: interventional cardiology at 3.5M and several neurosurgeons around 2M.

Most slept on specialty right now is psychiatry:


800K compensation for a new grad. Mindlessly throwing SSRIs or antipsychotics at everyone and pretending to listen to them.

Compare that to SWE, surgery or radiology where you are hyperfocused doing extremely technical work and if you happen to fuck up a few times your career is now in jeopardy.

On my psychiatry rotation the attending psychiatrist showed up at 9:00 AM, "saw" his 10 patients in 20 minutes and was out the door at 9:30 AM to his next job(s). Got paid 270k a year for this joke of a "job". Mogs basically every technical career in both hourly rate and stress to pay ratio.
so in other words, being a doctor is worth it even if I just wanna do it for the money correct.
 
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I'll be 32 when I finish fellowship, I have a classmate who will finish psychiatry residency at 29. Many doctors do not graduate with debt; med school is filled with trust fund babies myself included.
also same for me, parents are willing to pay my debt only if I go to med school
 
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You can’t be a doctor if your looksmax user
 
Don't listen to the Copers


Becoming a medical doctor is the single most lucrative, plus crisis-proof, profession existing in every country

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28k. it will get better
IGET PAID ALMOST 6-figures USD while rotting all day and being 10x higher status due to being a founder

FUCK UK IS FUCKED UP PIECE OF SHIT GARBAGE COUNTRY

have you done STEP to get to the US? if not it's over

then there's @the BULL telling me i'm inferior because i didn't study medicine :forcedsmile:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAH

400 weeks
 
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>High tution cost

>Stressful and hard work

>Takes a long time

>Debt
 
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Lowkey wanna be a doctor just for the money, but I'm not passionate about it so I don't think it's gonna work out. Help convince me that it's bad so I don't keep having the thought at the back of my head of becoming a doctor jfl.
Money's never worth it if you're living to work in order to get it.
 
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also same for me, parents are willing to pay my debt only if I go to med school
so in other words, being a doctor is worth it even if I just wanna do it for the money correct.
You better be prepared to focus and grind until you're late 20s early 30s depending on how old you are when you start but afterwards it's definitely worth it from a return on investment perspective. I probably averaged 4 hours a day of studying in undergrad and 8 hours in the first 2 years of med school including weekends. 3rd year is 30-60 hours a week of rotations (psych easiest, OBGYN hardest) + 10 hours of weekly studying for exams. 4th year I'm just cheefin and playing league all day taking bullshit rotations getting ready to graduate.
 
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In terms of dating its a significant halo. I'm in a LTR with a 3rd year but even my friends who are manlet asians/indians are pulling baddies from their respective races. Downside is I have a short fuse from the stress and low patience for bullshit in relationships
 
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Fuck man now I'm considering med school again
I just want a guaranteed well-paying job
 
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Fuck man now I'm considering med school again
I just want a guaranteed well-paying job
If you think you won't be able to handle 8 hours a day studying for 2+ years straight or hate socializing then I would be careful because it will be brutal to make it through the whole process. On the flip side if you're a 6'5 personable extrovert with strong academic discipline then you are basically guaranteed to have a lucrative career.
 
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You better be prepared to focus and grind until you're late 20s early 30s depending on how old you are when you start but afterwards it's definitely worth it from a return on investment perspective. I probably averaged 4 hours a day of studying in undergrad and 8 hours in the first 2 years of med school including weekends. 3rd year is 30-60 hours a week of rotations (psych easiest, OBGYN hardest) + 10 hours of weekly studying for exams. 4th year I'm just cheefin and playing league all day taking bullshit rotations getting ready to graduate.
8 hrs of studying per day? How tf do you even do that without burnout, plus do you still have time to do things like idk go to the gym etc.
 
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In terms of dating its a significant halo. I'm in a LTR with a 3rd year but even my friends who are manlet asians/indians are pulling baddies from their respective races. Downside is I have a short fuse from the stress and low patience for bullshit in relationships
Bullshit in relationships is a waste of time anyways so not a downside.
 
If you think you won't be able to handle 8 hours a day studying for 2+ years straight or hate socializing then I would be careful because it will be brutal to make it through the whole process. On the flip side if you're a 6'5 personable extrovert with strong academic discipline then you are basically guaranteed to have a lucrative career.
I don't mind socializing, but Idk if I can imagine myself studying 8hrs a day jfl. Im in hs rn and the most I study is 2hrs in a day, still get good grades tho cuz hs isn't that hard compared to uni and medschool obv.
 
28k. it will get better
I never understood shitty NHS pays. Muh free healthcare because the doctors get paid like trash, move to private sector or states tbh
 
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I never understood shitty NHS pays. Muh free healthcare because the doctors get paid like trash, move to private sector or states tbh
I don't honestly want to work for them any longer.
 
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>High tution cost

>Stressful and hard work

>Takes a long time

>Debt
Most of the tuition parents are paying for

What other reliable high paying job (200k+) is there to do without stress or hard work
 
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8 hrs of studying per day? How tf do you even do that without burnout, plus do you still have time to do things like idk go to the gym etc.
Yup thats med school for you, i wake up 8am, and start studying 9am until 5pm and get a cortisol burnout every single day. Its turbo brutal
 
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8 hrs of studying per day? How tf do you even do that without burnout, plus do you still have time to do things like idk go to the gym etc.
For stress: indica before bed, good relationships, video games
For focus: coffee, Adderall/vyvanse, modafinil
For boredom: spotify while studying, i squeezed in a game of league whenever i could to reward myself, some days i would do 30 minutes studying then 30 minutes playing so by the end of the day i will still have studied 6+ hours
 
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Yup thats med school for you, i wake up 8am, and start studying 9am until 5pm and get a cortisol burnout every single day. Its turbo brutal
Do you regret going to med school
 
For stress: indica before bed, good relationships, video games
For focus: coffee, Adderall/vyvanse, modafinil
For boredom: spotify while studying, i squeezed in a game of league whenever i could to reward myself, some days i would do 30 minutes studying then 30 minutes playing so by the end of the day i will still have studied 6+ hours
How many hrs of sleep did u get
 
How many hrs of sleep did u get
Average 8 hours first 2 years. I didn't have mandatory classes so I could design my own schedule with no surprises and no real obligations other than studying. During rotations averaged 8 hours on easy rotations and probably 6 hours on hard ones. For residency I should expect to get 8 hours average, unless you're doing a surgical specialty you should have a reasonable schedule.
 
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400 weeks
 
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My old roommate was a actively roiding competitive bodybuilder former D1 athlete and we would go out 2 nights a week and we used to game like 10 hours a week together. As long as everything is well scheduled there's enough time to do hobbies
 
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Most of the tuition parents are paying for

What other reliable high paying job (200k+) is there to do without stress or hard work
computer science 100x easier and better than medicine
 
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Do you regret going to med school
Complicated, if not med school then i would do nothing else, i just despise the first 2 years, despise theory and mindless memorization. Older students are telling me 3rd and 4th year are a blast because of them being much more clinical so i have hope, but now being second year its turbo brutal. Fuck physiology and anatomy
 
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computer science 100x easier and better than medicine
i have like a couple days to decide if I should take bio and physics, or cs for my hs course jfl idk what to pick
 
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i have like a couple days to decide if I should take bio and physics, or cs for my hs course jfl idk what to pick
does it determine what you do in Uni at all?

anyway: I'd go real natural sciences (as many of them) > artifical (CS, Biomedicine etc.)
 
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computer science 100x easier
Depends on pre knowledge, computer science requires you to have some passion for it since high school, my gf is studying it just for the money and she is super struggling. While med school is okay for everyone, its just brutal memorization
and better than medicine
Depends on your goals. Doctors have much higher status, and you have variety of fields to choose from that are similar to your liking.
 
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computer science 100x easier and better than medicine
It's faster but definitely not easier. My brother is a SWE at amazon and he is basically going through residency-level stress forever. He can get fired at the drop of a hat for poor performance. The hours are even comparable between radiology residency vs SWE day-to-day job.
 
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