God doesn't exist. Prove me wrong.

[True truecel]

I won't argue for a specific God

But how can you disprove some of the more well documented reincarnation anecdotes ?

mhm

some? what other reincarnation anecdotes are there then Jesus Christ

the Jesus resurrection case is interesting though. 4 apostles agreed that Christ resurrected, and Paul even listed eyewitnesses, and then the Empty tomb stuff as well

its still not sufficient evidence though and i'll explain why
1) the number one issue is its just the bible, theres no independent non "biased" (it's hard to be non-biased 2000 years ago but still) source that confirms he did indeed rise from the dead. in contrast, Jesus's existence was proven through independent text, meaning there were non-Christians who confirmed Jesus was indeed a real person living during that time - that's basically undeniable in history atp

2) conflicting accounts between apostles. They disagreed with who went to the tomb, when they saw Jesus rise etc. I guess you can excuse this kinda for these reasons though
- crime analogy: when a crime happens and people are interrogated, even if they are telling the truth they will have a modified version of the story. in fact its suspicious if people have identical stories because then you know they practiced it
- translation error/loss of knowledge through time - self explanatory (but this doesn't look well for the bible because it means its not trustworthy)

3) theories. there's a ton of more believable theories to explain what happened during those few days. examples:
- body was stolen
- Jesus just lost consciousness and was resting and they put him a tomb accidently (which does actually happen btw)
- everyone was just hallucinating and in a delirious state
- it's just a made up myth

Note: ALL of these things have happened before in the real world, but we have virtually NO other evidence to suggest any other person has risen from the dead ever in all of human history (aside from blackout events on the operating table and a few minutes of heart stopping, this is different because he was genuinely dead for WAY WAY longer)

lowkey I wrote so much idk why I spent so much time on this ngl that was retarded

 

[Deleted member 109023]

what evidence? from what religious text/or source do you derive the evidence?

Five reasons which I belive:
1) First motor;
2) Order and design;
3) Life comes from life;
4) Moral absolutes;
5) Love

 

[True truecel]

Also NDO, meaning "near death experiences"

what? I asked for a source bruh

 

[True truecel]

what does that mean

also, I swear this is just a probability fallacy. Everything in this universe is "rare", it just depends on what you consider valuable vs. common. We are living beings, so naturally we consider human life/life in general as rare and valuable, but from the Universe's perspective, it really doesnt matter.

For example, if I wave my hand, oxygen and nitrogen molecules in my room form an extremely unique, rare alignment of air that has never been seen before in the history of the universe in that particular region of space. but no one gives a shit because obviously we wouldn't consider that rare

 

[Chasingthedream569]

what? I asked for a source bruh

No matter what source you recievie you will never believe so it's useless, you may forget about me but don't forget this: Jesus christ always will forgive you, seek him before its too late

 

[kurd]

I don’t believe in religion but i do believe in God due to a personal experience i’ve had, God isn’t what you guys think of, he is beyond our nature and we are not supposed to understand him or even think he exists, we were just animals that gained consciousness, God just wants you to treat others like how you would want yourself to be treated, be a good person and religion doesn’t matter, if it helps you be a good person! good on you, but don’t force it upon people.

 

[Mainlander]

I don’t believe in religion but i do believe in God due to a personal experience i’ve had, God isn’t what you guys think of, he is beyond our nature and we are not supposed to understand him or even think he exists, we were just animals that gained consciousness,
, be a good person and religion doesn’t matter, if it helps you be a good person! good on you, but don’t force it upon people.

"God just wants you to treat others like how you would want yourself to be treated"

 

[True truecel]

Five reasons which I belive:
1) First motor;
2) Order and design;
3) Life comes from life;
4) Moral absolutes;
5) Love

1) idk what u mean
2)

Disproving order and design argument: There could have been X number of universes existing without life, everything obviously just happened to click in this universe, because we exist therefore we can perceive the supposed "rarity" of our situation, when we have no idea how many times the universal dice have been rolled already

also, I swear this is just a probability fallacy. Everything in this universe is "rare", it just depends on what you consider valuable vs. common. We are living beings, so naturally we consider human life/life in general as rare and valuable, but from the Universe's perspective, it really doesnt matter.

For example, if I wave my hand, oxygen and nitrogen molecules in my room form an extremely unique, rare alignment of air that has never been seen before in the history of the universe in that particular region of space. but no one gives a shit because obviously we wouldn't consider that rare

3) I mean yeah that's true but this is just God of the Gaps, you can't just say "God" for everything that we don't know about, because there's no way to prove he made life or not. For example:

I can instead say, no, there were multiple alien beings who created life as we know it, and those alien beings are outside the scope of our universe/aren't affected by time/are malevolent and using Earth for experimentation etc - just random claims that can't be proven or disproven, just like how saying God created life can't be proven or disproven

until we have evidence to backup a claim, its not the truth, its just your opinion

4) idk what u mean. the existence of moral absolutes proves God? is that what ur saying?

5) what are you talking about

 

[kurd]

"God just wants you to treat others like how you would want yourself to be treated"
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What is funny about being a good person?

 

[True truecel]

I don’t believe in religion but i do believe in God due to a personal experience i’ve had, God isn’t what you guys think of, he is beyond our nature and we are not supposed to understand him or even think he exists, we were just animals that gained consciousness, God just wants you to treat others like how you would want yourself to be treated, be a good person and religion doesn’t matter, if it helps you be a good person! good on you, but don’t force it upon people.

alright so you're basically saying that God exists (which I can't prove or disprove so you could be correct, no objections there from me)

and God wants you to be a "good person"

again I can't prove or disprove that this God that you are saying exists wants people to act a certain way, so there's nothing to argue with you about

However. here is the issue. if you begin to start forcing your beliefs on others, beliefs which aren't grounded in any way in anything at all, then those beliefs must be challenged. im glad u said don't force it upon people though

 

[True truecel]

No matter what source you recievie you will never believe so it's useless, you may forget about me but don't forget this: Jesus christ always will forgive you, seek him before its too late

bruh what

I just asked for a source, just show me evidence of what you are saying

and the reason I ask for evidence is simple - that claim is extremely bold and strong IF it is true. like if its true, then it makes a really good case for the existence of a Christian God. that's why I'm asking you for evidence because its a really loaded claim

 

[True truecel]

@iblamebunnies123 I saw you liked this post. Do you believe in God?

Freedom of speech and rights to live shouldn’t exist for niggas like u

 

[kurd]

alright so you're basically saying that God exists (which I can't prove or disprove so you could be correct, no objections there from me)

and God wants you to be a "good person"

again I can't prove or disprove that this God that you are saying exists wants people to act a certain way, so there's nothing to argue with you about

However. here is the issue. if you begin to start forcing your beliefs on others, beliefs which aren't grounded in any way in anything at all, then those beliefs must be challenged. im glad u said don't force it upon people though

I grew up Muslim. My family prayed, fasted, did everything right. But me? I never believed. I’d go through the motions because that’s what was expected, but in my head I thought, “This isn’t real. It’s just rules.”

But then something happened that I can’t explain away.

One night I was in my room, lights off, just sitting there feeling empty. I had been messing up in life, doing things I knew were wrong, and for the first time I actually felt guilty about it. I said out loud half serious, half angry “God, if You’re real, prove it to me. Give me a sign I can’t deny.”

The second I said that, everything went black. My lamp, my phone, even the little charger light gone. Pitch dark. My heart dropped.

Then I heard it. Not like a normal voice, but inside me, louder than sound:

"I am real. Become good."

And just like that, the lights came back. My phone lit up again, but it wasn’t on the lock screen anymore. The Notes app was open, and there was a sentence typed there I swear I didn’t write: “BE A GOOD PERSON.”

I just sat there frozen. My hands were shaking. I knew I didn’t imagine it. I knew it wasn’t random. God gave me a sign, and it was clear.

From that moment, I believed. Not because I was raised Muslim, not because someone told me to but because I asked, and God answered.

Again, i know people probably won’t believe this and i don’t care. Im just writing my own experience and why i believe in God, i don’t believe in religions

 

[True truecel]

@True truecel

Still What I find so mistaken about the traditional definition of God is the assumption that He must be the strongest and most omnipotent of all

In another dimension from which this cause originates this something might not even hold great significance and perhaps never intended to give us any meaning at all

And yet the first cause arose and that is what we may call God

But this God with high probabilit grants us no deeper purpose beyond the fact that we now exist

within our realm of understanding the traditional God people think of is actually omnipotent, because we can't conceive certain abilities, it's like trying to imagine the 4th dimension

 

[Chasingthedream569]

bruh what

I just asked for a source, just show me evidence of what you are saying

and the reason I ask for evidence is simple - that claim is extremely bold and strong IF it is true. like if its true, then it makes a really good case for the existence of a Christian God. that's why I'm asking you for evidence because its a really loaded claim

What do you mean by evidence?

 

[True truecel]

I grew up Muslim. My family prayed, fasted, did everything right. But me? I never believed. I’d go through the motions because that’s what was expected, but in my head I thought, “This isn’t real. It’s just rules.”

But then something happened that I can’t explain away.

One night I was in my room, lights off, just sitting there feeling empty. I had been messing up in life, doing things I knew were wrong, and for the first time I actually felt guilty about it. I said out loud half serious, half angry “God, if You’re real, prove it to me. Give me a sign I can’t deny.”

The second I said that, everything went black. My lamp, my phone, even the little charger light gone. Pitch dark. My heart dropped.

Then I heard it. Not like a normal voice, but inside me, louder than sound:

"I am real. Become good."

And just like that, the lights came back. My phone lit up again, but it wasn’t on the lock screen anymore. The Notes app was open, and there was a sentence typed there I swear I didn’t write: “BE A GOOD PERSON.”

I just sat there frozen. My hands were shaking. I knew I didn’t imagine it. I knew it wasn’t random. God gave me a sign, and it was clear.

From that moment, I believed. Not because I was raised Muslim, not because someone told me to but because I asked, and God answered.

Again, i know people probably won’t believe this and i don’t care. Im just writing my own experience and why i believe in God, i don’t believe in religions

10/10 story ngl

 

[kurd]

10/10 story ngl

That’s why i mentioned i don’t expect anyone to believe it, i could care less

 

[True truecel]

What do you mean by evidence?

just like a link to an article, scientific paper, youtube video, any source that proves that these NDO's actually occurred

 

[True truecel]

That’s why i mentioned i don’t expect anyone to believe it, i could care less

if u are really a better person because of your encounter or the God you believe in then good for you genuinely

 

[5'7" 3/4s]

Five reasons which I belive:
1) First motor;
2) Order and design;
3) Life comes from life;
4) Moral absolutes;
5) Love

6) consciousness

 

[True truecel]

6) consciousness

What does consciousness have to do with God?

also what God do you believe in

 

[Deleted member 85787]

God exists and has everything, having everything bothers you a lot, a lot of boredom makes you easily become a psychopath

 

[True truecel]

God exists and has everything, having everything bothers you a lot, a lot of boredom makes you easily become a psychopath

What God? is it a God that you came up with or from a religious text

 

[5'7" 3/4s]

What does consciousness have to do with God?

also what God do you believe in

consciousness has to do with free will and determinism, there is no part of the brain in which we can observe consciousness for rn, so i make the claim its immaterial.

 

[Deleted member 85787]

What God? is it a God that you came up with or from a religious text

a life form more intelligent and spiritual than the normal human being

metaphorically speaking I call him God

 

[Chasingthedream569]

just like a link to an article, scientific paper, youtube video, any source that proves that these NDO's actually occurred

 

[True truecel]

consciousness has to do with free will and determinism, there is no part of the brain in which we can observe consciousness for rn, so i make the claim its immaterial.

science can observe/prove consciousness, at least to an extent:

• Understanding that neurons firing in sequence is what causes thought and thus proves the brain is the hardware that runs the software of the mind.
• Discovering which chemicals influence which behaviors and how chemical imbalances in the body can influence thought.
• How the brain groups specific memories.
• Knowing which parts of the brain control which parts of the body / have specific thoughts.
• Being able to perform open-brain surgery on conscious patients and map out the function of parts of the brain in real time.
• Building machines that can literally convert thoughts into computer images.

 

[Morningg]

I will debate anyone, I'm bored. God doesn't exist, and religion is most often used as a tool to control people.

I don't care what religion you believe in, they are all wrong

i truly believe that someone who thinks there is NO God is dumb, i accept those who are agnostic but being purely atheistic is low IQ.

the existence and creation of the universe is already a pin point evidence that a God exists, since nothing cant come from nothing and mathematically and physically impossible for it to be pure coincidence.

is it totally up to you to which religion for you to follow, me personally am christian but atheism is flawed

 

[True truecel]

a life form more intelligent and spiritual than the normal human being

metaphorically speaking I call him God

okay so how did you come up with this conclusion? by yourself? is it just one of those random things that can neither be proven nor disproven like the 20 other people who've made similar claims in this thread

 

[True truecel]

i truly believe that someone who thinks there is NO God is dumb, i accept those who are agnostic but being purely atheistic is low IQ.

the existence and creation of the universe is already a pin point evidence that a God exists, since nothing cant come from nothing and mathematically and physically impossible for it to be pure coincidence.

is it totally up to you to which religion for you to follow, me personally am christian but atheism is flawed

the creation of the universe is just God of the gaps fallacy

its just stating that because we don't know how Life came to be, surely there must be a creator of life. its not a bad conclusion at first glance, but its just an excuse

I can instead say, no, there were multiple alien beings who created life as we know it, and those alien beings are outside the scope of our universe/aren't affected by time/are malevolent and using Earth for experimentation etc - just random claims that can't be proven or disproven, just like how saying God created life can't be proven or disproven

and why is it physically impossible for it to be pure coincidence? based on what?

 

[Deleted member 85787]

okay so how did you come up with this conclusion? by yourself? is it just one of those random things that can neither be proven nor disproven like the 20 other people who've made similar claims in this thread

I have grasped from everything around me and it is visible that we are just slaves of something more superior, perhaps that is why on a subconscious level religions have survived all this time

 

[Deleted member 83784]

God does exist and Islam is only true religion

agreed but you should note that Christians and Jews are "Ahl al-Kitab" (People of the book), this term refers primarily to the Jews and Christians who were given earlier scriptures by Allah, such as the Torah, Zabur (psalms) and Injil (Bible) but Islam affirms that these revelations were originally from Allah, but they were later altered or lost over time, and theres evidence of this, like The Story of the Adulterous Woman (John 7:53–8:11) which isn't found in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible we have today.

And because of this we believe the Quran is the final, preserved, divine revelation from Allah. and We have evidence for its preservation such as the Birmingham Manuscript (a roughly 1400 year old Quranic text) that is identical to how it is written today, and also the continuous practice of Hafidh, where people memorize the Quran perfectly.


I DO NOT INTEND TO OFFEND OR RIDICULE ANY PEOPLE/RELIGION BY SAYING ANY OF THIS, INSTEAD I AM SIMPLY OFFERING INSIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ISLAM.

 

[Mainlander]

within our realm of understanding the traditional God people think of is actually omnipotent, because we can't conceive certain abilities, it's like trying to imagine the 4th dimension

Thats why im agnostic

We cannot prove god

its just impossible because of our lack of understanding of a different realm

Still this argument keeps me away from being a atheist

 

[5'7" 3/4s]

science can observe/prove consciousness, at least to an extent:

• Understanding that neurons firing in sequence is what causes thought and thus proves the brain is the hardware that runs the software of the mind.
• Discovering which chemicals influence which behaviors and how chemical imbalances in the body can influence thought.
• How the brain groups specific memories.
• Knowing which parts of the brain control which parts of the body / have specific thoughts.
• Being able to perform open-brain surgery on conscious patients and map out the function of parts of the brain in real time.
• Building machines that can literally convert thoughts into computer images.

god did u just give me chatgpt talking points, that dont even understand the argument entirely...

i hope you know just because you can build a machine that can read the electrode signals being pulsed throughout ur brain in ur scalp, doesnt mean that u know what someone is thinking, or else we literally would be able to read peoples fucking minds lol

open brain surgery doesnt matter for shit, youre just taking the output of thought and not understanding the underlying mechanism of it(where consciousness is located locally)

again just because the brain can control the body doesnt mean consciousness is necessarily inside the brain, and the same goes for chemicals being secreted from the brain as well.


dont be midwit nigga

 

[Morningg]

the creation of the universe is just God of the gaps fallacy

its just stating that because we don't know how Life came to be, surely there must be a creator of life. its not a bad conclusion at first glance, but its just an excuse

I can instead say, no, there were multiple alien beings who created life as we know it, and those alien beings are outside the scope of our universe/aren't affected by time/are malevolent and using Earth for experimentation etc - just random claims that can't be proven or disproven, just like how saying God created life can't be proven or disproven

and why is it physically impossible for it to be pure coincidence? based on what?

good point, so some scientists made some calculations to estimate the chance of the absolute nothing create something in space, and the chances came up to be 10 to the power of 138, and in math anything above 10 to the power of 50 is IMPOSSIBLE, and thats only an estimative.

And sure there may be other life forms that arent human/animal like aliens, but before them was what? Nothing

About things being impossible to be proven is true, i fully agree with you, thats why i state as an evidence and not a proof since we arent sure of how things were created. i just think that the creation of the universe and matter points to a higher mind AKA God

 

[Deleted member 85787]

I DO NOT INTEND TO OFFEND OR RIDICULE ANY PEOPLE/RELIGION BY SAYING ANY OF THIS, INSTEAD I AM SIMPLY OFFERING INSIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ISLAM.

Low T

 

[Deleted member 83784]

Low T

?

 

[True truecel]

good point, so some scientists made some calculations to estimate the chance of the absolute nothing create something in space, and the chances came up to be 10 to the power of 138, and in math anything above 10 to the power of 50 is IMPOSSIBLE, and thats only an estimative.

bruh what? why would something that has a chance be impossible? that makes no sense. Anything that has a probability can occur obviously

And sure there may be other life forms that arent human/animal like aliens, but before them was what? Nothing

Again, you're assuming that. What if those aliens are beyond time and space? What if they are malevolent? Just because we don't know something doesn't mean there is some sort of supernatural explanation, we can clearly see this in how God of the gaps fallacy has worked throughout history -
X inexplainable event occurs
Y supernatural explanation is given for said event
Z explainable cause is found to be the actual reason of said event

About things being impossible to be proven is true, i fully agree with you, thats why i state as an evidence and not a proof since we arent sure of how things were created. i just think that the creation of the universe and matter points to a higher mind AKA God

yea I don't mind this take at all its decent, my view is just that until God's existence has sufficient evidence and can be proven, I would rather not make a potentially false claim stating that "I know for sure God made the universe", instead I'll just say, as the default position, God doesn't exist, but I can't prove or disprove that God doesn't exist

 

[True truecel]

I have grasped from everything around me and it is visible that we are just slaves of something more superior, perhaps that is why on a subconscious level religions have survived all this time

ur just blabbering now idk what to even say

 

[Morningg]

bruh what? why would something that has a chance be impossible? that makes no sense. Anything that has a probability can occur obviously


Again, you're assuming that. What if those aliens are beyond time and space? What if they are malevolent? Just because we don't know something doesn't mean there is some sort of supernatural explanation, we can clearly see this in how God of the gaps fallacy has worked throughout history -
X inexplainable event occurs
Y supernatural explanation is given for said event
Z explainable cause is found to be the actual reason of said event


yea I don't mind this take at all its decent, my view is just that until God's existence has sufficient evidence and can be proven, I would rather not make a potentially false claim stating that "I know for sure God made the universe", instead I'll just say, as the default position, God doesn't exist, but I can't prove or disprove that God doesn't exist

can occur but the chances are so slim that its practically impossible, 10 to the power of 138 is 10 with 138 Zeros, so its basically impossible and as i said its still a estimative since the real chances are more likely to be impossible

 

[Deleted member 109023]

Before I start responding I just want to state that with evidence I most mean what is more probable to happen

One important thesis and axiom that I want to say also

If something dont disprove 100% another thing, then it can also have probability of that happening

1) idk what u mean

Something gotta exist from something, and it gotta have a first cause. Just like a motor that moves another motor, God doesnt need a motor because he is the first motor

2)
What is your evidence that this statement of multiple universes is true? From what I see on my life, I see only one universe that is the one that exist. If you are refering to the big crunch and that there was multiple universes before this, its just a theory and its super unlikely because of the acceleration of the universe and everything tending to split entropy.

so its basically my word against yours

Also order and design is usually used for live beings not the universe, but what is the probability of that dice generating life? You could have organic particles on other planets, but where is the inteligent mind or perfect stable body (on perfect conditions of course)

still how our bodies are so biologically perfect? How can everything fit so well and be like just a perfect engineering project? What is more probable, something created it or in the range of 4-3 billion years we randomly got everything fitted perfectly (if that theory that evolution is about adapting and not just random genetic changes was true, then you could arguee that, but its just random)?
When you go to a beach and see the words "love" or whatever, you just believe that the ocean randomly did that? No, you think someone did that, because its more probable.
Again its not about mathematical proof, its about probability, what is more probable of happening?

3) I mean yeah that's true but this is just God of the Gaps, you can't just say "God" for everything that we don't know about, because there's no way to prove he made life or not. For example:

Again probability, and also the science does explain it, random thunderstorms on random particles that generated the first organic particle and then the process started, but what are the odds of that happening? So not God of the Gaps.

Again, we cant prove 100% or disprove 100%, its about probability.

Do you think in a range of 4 billion years or even 13 billion years that would have happened? And evolution in idk a billion of years would put us on this perfect state where everything works with everything? Organs working together vision, information processing, intelect which we are using to have this wonderful argument

What is more probable of happening?

If we consider the odds and we noticed that life comming from nothing is really low, then what created life? What was the first motor?

evidence

The evidence is the probability

4) idk what u mean. the existence of moral absolutes proves God? is that what ur saying?

Yes. Why people on america have some of the same moral absolutes from someone from south asia? They didnt even share their culture to each other, what gave them the same moral absolutes? Again you could say randomness, but whats the probability of that happening?

5) what are you talking about

Love isnt about random chemical reactions and eletricity comming on your neurons or just a will to preserve the gene pool or something like that. You usually dont help the homeless just because you want to help the tribe or something like that, you do that because you genuinely care and thats love. If it isnt about biology nor chemistry, then whats the most probable thing happening?

Now comming in with the maths:
Lets sum up everything with the probability of happening randomly using a limit:
it would be basically like this (just a random equation to explain that the odds are really low)
p(random) = lim x-> inf (really big number) 1/x
p(random) = number close to zero
but you could argue that the universe is infinite with the big crunch theory so the chances of that happening are
number close to zero * infinity = infinity
so 100% everything happened randomly or will happen sometime in the future
but heres the issue, the universe has 13.6 billion years and will end on entropy so particles wont interact with each other so time isnt infinite therefore the probability is still a number close to zero
Again, everything could have happened randomly, but the probability is a really low number so what do you rather believe?

Sorry if the text is confused

 

[Morningg]

bruh what? why would something that has a chance be impossible? that makes no sense. Anything that has a probability can occur obviously


Again, you're assuming that. What if those aliens are beyond time and space? What if they are malevolent? Just because we don't know something doesn't mean there is some sort of supernatural explanation, we can clearly see this in how God of the gaps fallacy has worked throughout history -
X inexplainable event occurs
Y supernatural explanation is given for said event
Z explainable cause is found to be the actual reason of said event


yea I don't mind this take at all its decent, my view is just that until God's existence has sufficient evidence and can be proven, I would rather not make a potentially false claim stating that "I know for sure God made the universe", instead I'll just say, as the default position, God doesn't exist, but I can't prove or disprove that God doesn't exist

youre really smart ngl your takes are not bad

About the aliens i think that if theyre what youre describing i think they could be considered Gods yk, to something be beyond time and space is to be something divine, but at the end we arent sure and cant prove a thing

 

[True truecel]

god did u just give me chatgpt talking points, that dont even understand the argument entirely...

i hope you know just because you can build a machine that can read the electrode signals being pulsed throughout ur brain in ur scalp, doesnt mean that u know what someone is thinking, or else we literally would be able to read peoples fucking minds lol
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open brain surgery doesnt matter for shit, youre just taking the output of thought and not understanding the underlying mechanism of it(where consciousness is located locally)

again just because the brain can control the body doesnt mean consciousness is necessarily inside the brain, and the same goes for chemicals being secreted from the brain as well.


dont be midwit nigga

Okay, so then prove that consciousness exists outside of the brain

You can't

and also tbf neither can I prove that consciousness exists inside the brain

it just becomes one of those things where you can neither prove or disprove it, which is completely useless

 

[True truecel]

can occur but the chances are so slim that its practically impossible, 10 to the power of 138 is 10 with 138 Zeros, so its basically impossible and as i said its still a estimative since the real chances are more likely to be impossible

bro

genuinely what are you saying
like if something has a chance of occurring, it can occur, that's just like basic logic

 

[Morningg]

bro

genuinely what are you saying
like if something has a chance of occurring, it can occur, that's just like basic logic

Yeah but thats an estimative, since its kind of common sense that nothing cant create something

 

[True truecel]

youre really smart ngl your takes are not bad

About the aliens i think that if theyre what youre describing i think they could be considered Gods yk, to something be beyond time and space is to be something divine, but at the end we arent sure and cant prove a thing

yep, just can't prove it

i think we both just have different default positions on God's existence, given that their isn't sufficent evidence I mean fair enough

 

[Deleted member 85787]

ur just blabbering now idk what to even say

Look, i agree with you, religions are coping, but you're asking the wrong questions. You have to ask yourself why religions were born? As a tool of jewish control, as a form of coping because we're stuck in a prison planet because of the reptilians.

 

[True truecel]

Yeah but thats an estimative, since its kind of common sense that nothing cant create something

idk

like I know what you're saying in theory but just think about it

if something even has a probability of occurring, then it can occur, no matter how miniscule the probability is

if the estimate is wrong and there is indeed a zero percent probability of the universe existing, then show me that source that's interesting

 

[True truecel]

Look, i agree with you, religions are coping, but you're asking the wrong questions. You have to ask yourself why religions were born? As a tool of jewish control, as a form of coping because we're stuck in a prison planet because of the reptilians.

 

[Deleted member 109023]

But I agree on the fact that religions are mostly a tool to control people thats why im nothing

I follow God and Jesus, not christianity