God-Tier Eye Area Softmaxx: Pilocarpine 0.1% + Brimonidine Drops for Insane Pupil Constriction & Sclera Whitening (Full Protocol+Studies+Pics)

nice brah you can buy them locally with a prescription from an ophthalmologist:
  • Pilocarpine 2% at any pharmacy
  • Brimonidine 0.2% with prescription, or just get Lumify 0.025% over the counter which is the easiest
also tell me how it goes bhai :smonk:
I can get lumify at any pharmacy for a decent price.
How to get pilocaprine? give me info on what it is and how to get it
 
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I can get lumify at any pharmacy for a decent price.
How to get pilocaprine? give me info on what it is and how to get it
Pilocarpine is a prescription miotic eye drop (1-4% strength) that strongly constricts your pupils for hours, making your iris pop and giving better eye contrast which was in the thread

and to get it bro:
  • Go to an ophthalmologist, get a prescription (mention glaucoma or similar if needed), then buy it at any pharmacy (2% or 1% is common). Dilute the 2% yourself to ~0.1% using preservative-free tears.
hope this helps brah :feelsautistic:
 
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Pilocarpine Nitrate (1% /Diluted 0.1%) + Brimonidine Eye Drops
Table of contents
1. Introduction – Why This Combo is good

2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify)

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included)

6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%)

7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized)

8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters)


9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read)

1. Introduction - Why this combo is good:
Your eye area is a crucial part of your facial aesthetic. We all search for that positive canthal tilt. and that striking contrast which are the holy grail for the eye area. Most softmaxxes like Mewing or Skincare give minor gains. but this combo together delivers Instant, high-impact changes:
  • Permanently small pupils (even in dim light)
  • Extremely white Sclera
  • And also insane iris to sclera contrast which means that colored eyes look 10x more vibrant, and dark eyes get that more sharper definition
This is the underrated eye area maxx that i have been researching and looking into and have complied everything into a thread with studies, exact dilution, protocol, pics, and the most crucial part Safety data.( Not medical advice)


2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works:
Pilocarpine is a parasympathomimetic miotic agent. It contracts the iris sphincter muscle and forces pupil constriction (miosis).
Medically used for glaucoma and presbyopia, but cosmetically:

  • Prevents natural dilation in low/dim light (where pupils normally blow out and kill contrast)
  • Keeps pupils tiny for 6–8+ hours
  • Makes iris cover more visible area - colored eyes pop like crazy; even brown eyes gain definition
The key benefit: your eyes will stay alert and focused 24/7 in any lighting that they are in.

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify):
Brimonidine is an alpha-2 adrenergic agonist. It selectively constricts blood vessels in the sclera which lowers redness and makes whites bright white.
  • Lumify = 0.025% (OTC, mild)
  • Prescription/stronger versions = 0.1% or 0.2% (4–8x stronger, used in the combo threads)
It is very good as the results are in the first 60 seconds and also lasts 8+ hours, Also there is no rebound redness like old Visine-style drops. It is perfect for making the sclera insanely white which then leads to your constricted pupils and iris start to pop and stand out.

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast:
They work amazing alone but together the two of them are next level:
  • Pilocarpine - tiny black pupil (maximum iris exposure)
  • Brimonidine - blinding white sclera (maximum contrast)
  • Result: Eyes look bigger, sharper, more hypnotic. Colored eyes become unreal and dark eyes gain that piercing look.
Use 3–5x a week maximum to avoid irritaion/tolerance.

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included):
Mechanism of pilocarpine miosis
: Standard pharmacology - contracts iris sphincter. WebMD summary:

Pilocarpine and Brimonidine Combos: Patent for ophthalmic composition specifically using pilocarpine and brimonidine for pupil modulation (presbyopia context, but same miotic + whitening synergy):

Presbyopia Trials (relevant because they use the exact combo mechanics): Recent FDA-approved carbachol + brimonidine drops (similar miotic + alpha-agonist) showed superior pupil constriction + safety over single agents. Phase 3 data:

Brimonidine for Redness: Lumify clinical data – 95% saw significant whitening in 1 minute, low rebound: Official Bausch + Lomb studies:

Pupil Response Studies: Multiple papers confirm 0.1–1% pilocarpine produces reliable, sustained miosis (e.g., PMC articles on topical pilocarpine effects).

No large cosmetic trials (it’s off-label), but the pharmacology is rock-solid and thousands of glaucoma/presbyopia patients use these daily.


6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%):
  • Pilocarpine Nitrate 1%: Buy from IndiaMart or a reliable pharmacies and is often labeled "isopto Carpine" equivalent). It is good as it is cheap at around $10 to 20 per bottle.
  • Dilution (recommended for daily use): Mix 1 part 1% pilocarpine with 9 parts Refresh Plus preservative-free tears - gets you 0.1% (Do NOT use regular tears – pH/preservatives destroy potency.)
  • Brimonidine: 0.1% prescription ( or Lumify 0.025% if you want milder). Some users higher if needed
The total cost for this would be under $30 per month


7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized):

1. Morning ( or pre-event): 1 drop pilocarpine (0.1% or 1% if experienced) for each eye
2. Wait 5 mins.

3. 1 drop brimonidine for each eye.

4. Wait 1-2 min, then artificial tears if needed for comfort.

5. Max 5x per week. Alternate days off.

6. Store in fridge for longer potency.

Onset: Pilocarpine 15-30 mins, Brimonidine for under 1 min. Duration: 6-10 hours.



8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters):
Day 1
: Immediate whitening and pupil shrink which results in eyes looking brighter.
Week 1+: Consistent use will result in a permanent "always focused" striking look in photos and also videos.
Visual Proof (real examples from clinical/pharma sources + looksmax-style demos):


Lumify/Brimonidine whitening transformations (sclera pop):
(Images above show dramatic redness reduction and brighter, larger-looking eyes.)

users with light eyes report β€œiris looks 2x bigger and more vibrant.” Dark-eyed users get sharper definition.



9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read):

  • Common (temporary): Mild stinging, headache, brow ache, temporary blur (accommodation spasm), light sensitivity.
  • Rare but serious: Lowered IOP (good for most, bad if you have low pressure), allergic reaction, long-term overuse β†’ iris cysts or rebound issues (rare at 0.1%).
  • Contraindications: Uveitis, asthma (caution), under 18, contact lenses (remove first).
  • Golden Rule: 5x/week max + regular eye exams. Stop if pain/vision changes. This is not FDA-approved for cosmetics.

I am not a doctor. This is for educational purposes.

Use diluted Pilocarpine Nitrate (0.1%) to force tiny pupils in all lighting (makes iris pop massively + prevents dilation) + Brimonidine (0.1% or Lumify) to make your sclera blinding white.

Together they create god-tier iris-sclera contrast β†’ colored eyes look ethereal, dark eyes get sharp definition, and your eye area instantly appears more striking/hunter-like.

  • Onset: 15–60 minutes
  • Duration: 6–10 hours
  • Protocol: 1 drop each (pilo first, wait 5 min, then brimonidine), max 5x/week
  • Cost: ~$20–30/month
  • Backed by real pharmacology + presbyopia combo studies
Not medical advice. Full detailed protocol, dilution guide, risks, and before/after visuals in the thread

@Jimcel @Draak77 @Cookie271 @dbdrFanboy @magneso
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mirin is this % good?
Pilocarpine 1.25%
Brimonidine tartrate 2%
 
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Pilocarpine is a prescription miotic eye drop (1-4% strength) that strongly constricts your pupils for hours, making your iris pop and giving better eye contrast which was in the thread

and to get it bro:
  • Go to an ophthalmologist, get a prescription (mention glaucoma or similar if needed), then buy it at any pharmacy (2% or 1% is common). Dilute the 2% yourself to ~0.1% using preservative-free tears.
hope this helps brah :feelsautistic:
Yo. Ill try to go to an opthalmologist or whatever. But I likely cannot do that.
Are there any replacements that I can use to pilocarpine??
Let me know
 
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Because apparently pilocarpine has insane side effects.
Plus I need a prescription which I can't get. Those are both reasons why I can't get pilocarpine drops.
 
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Pilocarpine Nitrate (1% /Diluted 0.1%) + Brimonidine Eye Drops
Table of contents
1. Introduction – Why This Combo is good

2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify)

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included)

6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%)

7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized)

8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters)


9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read)

1. Introduction - Why this combo is good:
Your eye area is a crucial part of your facial aesthetic. We all search for that positive canthal tilt. and that striking contrast which are the holy grail for the eye area. Most softmaxxes like Mewing or Skincare give minor gains. but this combo together delivers Instant, high-impact changes:
  • Permanently small pupils (even in dim light)
  • Extremely white Sclera
  • And also insane iris to sclera contrast which means that colored eyes look 10x more vibrant, and dark eyes get that more sharper definition
This is the underrated eye area maxx that i have been researching and looking into and have complied everything into a thread with studies, exact dilution, protocol, pics, and the most crucial part Safety data.( Not medical advice)


2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works:
Pilocarpine is a parasympathomimetic miotic agent. It contracts the iris sphincter muscle and forces pupil constriction (miosis).
Medically used for glaucoma and presbyopia, but cosmetically:

  • Prevents natural dilation in low/dim light (where pupils normally blow out and kill contrast)
  • Keeps pupils tiny for 6–8+ hours
  • Makes iris cover more visible area - colored eyes pop like crazy; even brown eyes gain definition
The key benefit: your eyes will stay alert and focused 24/7 in any lighting that they are in.

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify):
Brimonidine is an alpha-2 adrenergic agonist. It selectively constricts blood vessels in the sclera which lowers redness and makes whites bright white.
  • Lumify = 0.025% (OTC, mild)
  • Prescription/stronger versions = 0.1% or 0.2% (4–8x stronger, used in the combo threads)
It is very good as the results are in the first 60 seconds and also lasts 8+ hours, Also there is no rebound redness like old Visine-style drops. It is perfect for making the sclera insanely white which then leads to your constricted pupils and iris start to pop and stand out.

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast:
They work amazing alone but together the two of them are next level:
  • Pilocarpine - tiny black pupil (maximum iris exposure)
  • Brimonidine - blinding white sclera (maximum contrast)
  • Result: Eyes look bigger, sharper, more hypnotic. Colored eyes become unreal and dark eyes gain that piercing look.
Use 3–5x a week maximum to avoid irritaion/tolerance.

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included):
Mechanism of pilocarpine miosis
: Standard pharmacology - contracts iris sphincter. WebMD summary:

Pilocarpine and Brimonidine Combos: Patent for ophthalmic composition specifically using pilocarpine and brimonidine for pupil modulation (presbyopia context, but same miotic + whitening synergy):

Presbyopia Trials (relevant because they use the exact combo mechanics): Recent FDA-approved carbachol + brimonidine drops (similar miotic + alpha-agonist) showed superior pupil constriction + safety over single agents. Phase 3 data:

Brimonidine for Redness: Lumify clinical data – 95% saw significant whitening in 1 minute, low rebound: Official Bausch + Lomb studies:

Pupil Response Studies: Multiple papers confirm 0.1–1% pilocarpine produces reliable, sustained miosis (e.g., PMC articles on topical pilocarpine effects).

No large cosmetic trials (it’s off-label), but the pharmacology is rock-solid and thousands of glaucoma/presbyopia patients use these daily.


6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%):
  • Pilocarpine Nitrate 1%: Buy from IndiaMart or a reliable pharmacies and is often labeled "isopto Carpine" equivalent). It is good as it is cheap at around $10 to 20 per bottle.
  • Dilution (recommended for daily use): Mix 1 part 1% pilocarpine with 9 parts Refresh Plus preservative-free tears - gets you 0.1% (Do NOT use regular tears – pH/preservatives destroy potency.)
  • Brimonidine: 0.1% prescription ( or Lumify 0.025% if you want milder). Some users higher if needed
The total cost for this would be under $30 per month


7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized):

1. Morning ( or pre-event): 1 drop pilocarpine (0.1% or 1% if experienced) for each eye
2. Wait 5 mins.

3. 1 drop brimonidine for each eye.

4. Wait 1-2 min, then artificial tears if needed for comfort.

5. Max 5x per week. Alternate days off.

6. Store in fridge for longer potency.

Onset: Pilocarpine 15-30 mins, Brimonidine for under 1 min. Duration: 6-10 hours.



8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters):
Day 1
: Immediate whitening and pupil shrink which results in eyes looking brighter.
Week 1+: Consistent use will result in a permanent "always focused" striking look in photos and also videos.
Visual Proof (real examples from clinical/pharma sources + looksmax-style demos):


Lumify/Brimonidine whitening transformations (sclera pop):
(Images above show dramatic redness reduction and brighter, larger-looking eyes.)

users with light eyes report β€œiris looks 2x bigger and more vibrant.” Dark-eyed users get sharper definition.



9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read):

  • Common (temporary): Mild stinging, headache, brow ache, temporary blur (accommodation spasm), light sensitivity.
  • Rare but serious: Lowered IOP (good for most, bad if you have low pressure), allergic reaction, long-term overuse β†’ iris cysts or rebound issues (rare at 0.1%).
  • Contraindications: Uveitis, asthma (caution), under 18, contact lenses (remove first).
  • Golden Rule: 5x/week max + regular eye exams. Stop if pain/vision changes. This is not FDA-approved for cosmetics.

I am not a doctor. This is for educational purposes.

Use diluted Pilocarpine Nitrate (0.1%) to force tiny pupils in all lighting (makes iris pop massively + prevents dilation) + Brimonidine (0.1% or Lumify) to make your sclera blinding white.

Together they create god-tier iris-sclera contrast β†’ colored eyes look ethereal, dark eyes get sharp definition, and your eye area instantly appears more striking/hunter-like.

  • Onset: 15–60 minutes
  • Duration: 6–10 hours
  • Protocol: 1 drop each (pilo first, wait 5 min, then brimonidine), max 5x/week
  • Cost: ~$20–30/month
  • Backed by real pharmacology + presbyopia combo studies
Not medical advice. Full detailed protocol, dilution guide, risks, and before/after visuals in the thread

@Jimcel @Draak77 @Cookie271 @dbdrFanboy @magneso
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Because apparently pilocarpine has insane side effects.
Plus I need a prescription which I can't get. Those are both reasons why I can't get pilocarpine drops.
there are no strong OTC replacements that match Pilocarpine
however you could just use Lumify as it is the best and safest choice
or you could use:
  • Qlosi (Pilocarpine 0.4%) which is a much lower dose than regular pilocarpine.
  • Aceclidine drops (newer, often fewer headaches/blur).
which are lower side effects
 
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Pilocarpine Nitrate (1% /Diluted 0.1%) + Brimonidine Eye Drops
Table of contents
1. Introduction – Why This Combo is good

2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify)

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included)

6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%)

7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized)

8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters)


9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read)

1. Introduction - Why this combo is good:
Your eye area is a crucial part of your facial aesthetic. We all search for that positive canthal tilt. and that striking contrast which are the holy grail for the eye area. Most softmaxxes like Mewing or Skincare give minor gains. but this combo together delivers Instant, high-impact changes:
  • Permanently small pupils (even in dim light)
  • Extremely white Sclera
  • And also insane iris to sclera contrast which means that colored eyes look 10x more vibrant, and dark eyes get that more sharper definition
This is the underrated eye area maxx that i have been researching and looking into and have complied everything into a thread with studies, exact dilution, protocol, pics, and the most crucial part Safety data.( Not medical advice)


2. How Pilocarpine Nitrate Works:
Pilocarpine is a parasympathomimetic miotic agent. It contracts the iris sphincter muscle and forces pupil constriction (miosis).
Medically used for glaucoma and presbyopia, but cosmetically:

  • Prevents natural dilation in low/dim light (where pupils normally blow out and kill contrast)
  • Keeps pupils tiny for 6–8+ hours
  • Makes iris cover more visible area - colored eyes pop like crazy; even brown eyes gain definition
The key benefit: your eyes will stay alert and focused 24/7 in any lighting that they are in.

3. Brimonidine Tartrate – The Sclera Whitener (Stronger Than Lumify):
Brimonidine is an alpha-2 adrenergic agonist. It selectively constricts blood vessels in the sclera which lowers redness and makes whites bright white.
  • Lumify = 0.025% (OTC, mild)
  • Prescription/stronger versions = 0.1% or 0.2% (4–8x stronger, used in the combo threads)
It is very good as the results are in the first 60 seconds and also lasts 8+ hours, Also there is no rebound redness like old Visine-style drops. It is perfect for making the sclera insanely white which then leads to your constricted pupils and iris start to pop and stand out.

4. Synergistic Effects: Why Pilocarpine and Brimonidine work together to give you God-Tier contrast:
They work amazing alone but together the two of them are next level:
  • Pilocarpine - tiny black pupil (maximum iris exposure)
  • Brimonidine - blinding white sclera (maximum contrast)
  • Result: Eyes look bigger, sharper, more hypnotic. Colored eyes become unreal and dark eyes gain that piercing look.
Use 3–5x a week maximum to avoid irritaion/tolerance.

5. Scientific Backing & Real Studies (Links Included):
Mechanism of pilocarpine miosis
: Standard pharmacology - contracts iris sphincter. WebMD summary:

Pilocarpine and Brimonidine Combos: Patent for ophthalmic composition specifically using pilocarpine and brimonidine for pupil modulation (presbyopia context, but same miotic + whitening synergy):

Presbyopia Trials (relevant because they use the exact combo mechanics): Recent FDA-approved carbachol + brimonidine drops (similar miotic + alpha-agonist) showed superior pupil constriction + safety over single agents. Phase 3 data:

Brimonidine for Redness: Lumify clinical data – 95% saw significant whitening in 1 minute, low rebound: Official Bausch + Lomb studies:

Pupil Response Studies: Multiple papers confirm 0.1–1% pilocarpine produces reliable, sustained miosis (e.g., PMC articles on topical pilocarpine effects).

No large cosmetic trials (it’s off-label), but the pharmacology is rock-solid and thousands of glaucoma/presbyopia patients use these daily.


6. Sourcing, Dilution & Cost-Effective Protocol (1% - 0.1%):
  • Pilocarpine Nitrate 1%: Buy from IndiaMart or a reliable pharmacies and is often labeled "isopto Carpine" equivalent). It is good as it is cheap at around $10 to 20 per bottle.
  • Dilution (recommended for daily use): Mix 1 part 1% pilocarpine with 9 parts Refresh Plus preservative-free tears - gets you 0.1% (Do NOT use regular tears – pH/preservatives destroy potency.)
  • Brimonidine: 0.1% prescription ( or Lumify 0.025% if you want milder). Some users higher if needed
The total cost for this would be under $30 per month


7. Exact Usage Protocol (Safe and Optimized):

1. Morning ( or pre-event): 1 drop pilocarpine (0.1% or 1% if experienced) for each eye
2. Wait 5 mins.

3. 1 drop brimonidine for each eye.

4. Wait 1-2 min, then artificial tears if needed for comfort.

5. Max 5x per week. Alternate days off.

6. Store in fridge for longer potency.

Onset: Pilocarpine 15-30 mins, Brimonidine for under 1 min. Duration: 6-10 hours.



8. Expected Results + Timeline + Visual Evidence (Before/Afters):
Day 1
: Immediate whitening and pupil shrink which results in eyes looking brighter.
Week 1+: Consistent use will result in a permanent "always focused" striking look in photos and also videos.
Visual Proof (real examples from clinical/pharma sources + looksmax-style demos):


Lumify/Brimonidine whitening transformations (sclera pop):
(Images above show dramatic redness reduction and brighter, larger-looking eyes.)

users with light eyes report β€œiris looks 2x bigger and more vibrant.” Dark-eyed users get sharper definition.



9. Risks, Side Effects and Safety Guidelines (Must Read):

  • Common (temporary): Mild stinging, headache, brow ache, temporary blur (accommodation spasm), light sensitivity.
  • Rare but serious: Lowered IOP (good for most, bad if you have low pressure), allergic reaction, long-term overuse β†’ iris cysts or rebound issues (rare at 0.1%).
  • Contraindications: Uveitis, asthma (caution), under 18, contact lenses (remove first).
  • Golden Rule: 5x/week max + regular eye exams. Stop if pain/vision changes. This is not FDA-approved for cosmetics.

I am not a doctor. This is for educational purposes.

Use diluted Pilocarpine Nitrate (0.1%) to force tiny pupils in all lighting (makes iris pop massively + prevents dilation) + Brimonidine (0.1% or Lumify) to make your sclera blinding white.

Together they create god-tier iris-sclera contrast β†’ colored eyes look ethereal, dark eyes get sharp definition, and your eye area instantly appears more striking/hunter-like.

  • Onset: 15–60 minutes
  • Duration: 6–10 hours
  • Protocol: 1 drop each (pilo first, wait 5 min, then brimonidine), max 5x/week
  • Cost: ~$20–30/month
  • Backed by real pharmacology + presbyopia combo studies
Not medical advice. Full detailed protocol, dilution guide, risks, and before/after visuals in the thread

@Jimcel @Draak77 @Cookie271 @dbdrFanboy @magneso
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hows this instead of lumify?
it has stronger whitening than Lumify
however the added Timolol lowers eye pressure and can cause more side effects like redness or stinging for example
so not ideal for daily cosmetic use compared to plain Lumify.
 
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  • Dilution (recommended for daily use): Mix 1 part 1% pilocarpine with 9 parts Refresh Plus preservative-free tears - gets you 0.1% (Do NOT use regular tears – pH/preservatives destroy potency.)
how do you dilute those? you mix them in an empty vial?
 
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how do you dilute those? you mix them in an empty vial?
Yes, use a clean empty sterile vial or dropper bottle.
Mix 1 part Pilocarpine 1% with 9 parts Refresh Plus preservative-free tears.
 
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