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@SurgerySoon
Thanks for running a Tinder experiment for me. I would be curious to see what the altered photos look like, just out of curiosity.
TBH I don't really know much about Tinder... is 33 matches in 12 hrs considered a decent match rate? BTW, what population size is the city you ran the experiment in?
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do you think this would be attainable with your upcoming eye area overhaul? I personally think you should look better post surgery then these pics above.
Also these pics I used were pretty autistic, considering the clothes your wearing and the pictures themselves.
Im not in a populated area btw, also most of the girls were subhuman with the expection of 1-3
there were also 8 more remaining girls that liked you that werent matched yet.
this is the hottest girl i would say you matched with.
I set your age to 27 btw, seems you can pass for mid to late twenties.
@SurgerySoon
you gotta fuck a lot of frogs if you want to be a slayerDamn, those are some pretty rough-looking matches (I would agree with the 1-3 rating you gave most of them). Do you think these are the best I can do? I mean WTF, I know I'm wearing dorky work clothes but still, that's the quality of the girls I matched with, even with an improved eye area?
What do you think the issue is? Is that just really the best I can do in terms of the attractiveness-level of girls I can attract? What's my problem here, am I really that unattractive to decent-looking females? @Gosick
(BTW, I think I should be able to get at least that degree of improvement from surgery)
Damn, those are some pretty rough-looking matches (I would agree with the 1-3 rating you gave most of them). Do you think these are the best I can do? I mean WTF, I know I'm wearing dorky work clothes but still, that's the quality of the girls I matched with, even with an improved eye area?
What do you think the issue is? Is that just really the best I can do in terms of the attractiveness-level of girls I can attract? What's my problem here, am I really that unattractive to decent-looking females? @Gosick
(BTW, I think I should be able to get at least that degree of improvement from surgery)
I think it was just he quality of pics I used, and the bio i used was pretty autistic, The main thing that hinders your SMV is that one deformed eye, thats an instant turn off to most women.
you gotta fuck a lot of frogs if you want to be a slayer
u already came this far, why stop nowZ?@Gosick I agree with you about the eye (I think they both need work though, not just the deformed one), but what makes me depressed is the fact that those are the types of girls I matched with AFTER the eyes had been fixed. If that's realistically as good as I'll be able to do in terms of the quality of girls I'm going to attract (although I agree that the last one isn't bad), then I'm not sure it's going to be worth spending $20k+ to undergo more surgeries just to have those kinds of results.
I think calling them frogs is an upgrade for most of them
u already came this far, why stop nowZ?
its either this or shotgun to the head tbh, theres no turning back now
surgery doesn't translate to balance in your facial harmony, this is the biggest flaw in all surgerycels@Gosick I agree with you about the eye (I think they both need work though, not just the deformed one), but what makes me depressed is the fact that those are the types of girls I matched with AFTER the eyes had been fixed. If that's realistically as good as I'll be able to do in terms of the quality of girls I'm going to attract (although I agree that the last one isn't bad), then I'm not sure it's going to be worth spending $20k+ to undergo more surgeries just to have those kinds of results.
I think calling them frogs is an upgrade for most of them
correction, your results seem a lot better than @facemaxxedsurgery doesn't translate to balance in your facial harmony, this is the biggest flaw in all surgerycels
its not that the "fixed feature" doesn't look better, it just rather "doesnt make sense" when you look at the face
with 1-2 exceptions regarding surgeries or 1-2 exceptions regarding other surgeries turning out harmonious with your pre-existing pheno and ratios
your pics and result seem slightly better than @facemaxxed, but you still look off. im not saying you necessarily look worse by psl measures, im just not sure how much it translates to actual female attraction.
you can easily impress daydreaming indians on this forum though
surgery doesn't translate to balance in your facial harmony, this is the biggest flaw in all surgerycels
its not that the "fixed feature" doesn't look better, it just rather "doesnt make sense" when you look at the face
with 1-2 exceptions regarding surgeries or 1-2 exceptions regarding other surgeries turning out harmonious with your pre-existing pheno and ratios
your pics and result seem slightly better than @facemaxxed, but you still look off. im not saying you necessarily look worse by psl measures, im just not sure how much it translates to actual female attraction.
you can easily impress daydreaming indians on this forum though
right now in the pics that we saw, you look more or less natural, i mean you'r fairly away from the uncanny valley.@cocainecowboy So you think the issue is just a general lack of natural attractiveness that I had prior to surgery? In other words, there's just something about my face that is just generally unattractive to most females that probably existed prior to surgery as well (for example, just general lack of harmony or whatever else it is that makes someone simply unattractive)? @cocainecowboy
@SurgerySoon I wouldn’t take the experiment with your pics too seriously. Once you are good looking, and have a nice body, Tinder is all about optics:
right now in the pics that we saw, you look more or less natural, i mean you'r fairly away from the uncanny valley.
If i were you, i will correct my eye area because it's a real failo, and for the rest only consider fillers and see what it looks like.
don't think about it : you'll be better with a LTR/woman or anything that has feelings for you. In the long run, it's very hard to not be loved/having someone that you are accountable for.I really hope so, because if that's the best I can do, then I seriously think I'm going to be better off just putting that money towards an escortceling fund or something.
don't think about it : you'll be better with a LTR/woman or anything that has feelings for you. In the long run, it's very hard to not be loved/having someone that you are accountable for.
tbh, it's quite interesting that you got a good amount of likes considering how bad were the pictures.
surgery doesn't translate to balance in your facial harmony, this is the biggest flaw in all surgerycels
its not that the "fixed feature" doesn't look better, it just rather "doesnt make sense" when you look at the face
with 1-2 exceptions regarding surgeries or 1-2 exceptions regarding other surgeries turning out harmonious with your pre-existing pheno and ratios
your pics and result seem slightly better than @facemaxxed, but you still look off. im not saying you necessarily look worse by psl measures, im just not sure how much it translates to actual female attraction.
you can easily impress daydreaming indians on this forum though
correction, your results seem a lot better than @facemaxxed
unattractive is the wrong way to go about it. im sure by how you look atm you werent ugly. its just most people are limited by pheno/harmony for an upper limit in terms of looks. shape of your skull, fwhr etc. things that cant be changed and hardcore define how attractive ur face is@cocainecowboy So you think the issue is just a general lack of natural attractiveness that I had prior to surgery? In other words, there's just something about my face that is just generally unattractive to most females that probably existed prior to surgery as well (for example, just general lack of harmony or whatever else it is that makes someone simply unattractive)?
i mean, you'll probably be sad if you do escorting for a long period of time. We are humans, we need feelings.What do you mean by "don't think about it?" TBH I'm just not interested in LTRs, and even if I was, I would want to be able to have one with a much better-looking girl than those.
he is fairly close to be a chadlite or at it right now. The pics are very badly taken, no smile, no outdoor, ask every woman, she'll believe he came of out hospital. It's a good result really.unattractive is the wrong way to go about it. im sure by how you look atm you werent ugly. its just most people are limited by pheno/harmony for an upper limit in terms of looks. shape of your skull, fwhr etc. things that cant be changed and hardcore define how attractive ur face is
its not that there isnt room for improvement for most as i believe everyone has their niche surgery they can go up 0,5, maybe 1 psl, that is still somewhat tolerable within their harmony but i seriously don't understand any user here who legitimiately believe just by doing A LOT of surgeries, implants, adding unnatural curviture, unnatural angularity and ratios their face will make them attractive
its a huge fucking mental masturbation
surgery follows "rich gets richer" scheme
good looking people with good skull shape, harmony, fwhr etc. can fix their failos and become even better looking
normie faces may improve somewhat, but are usually capped by the things they lack opposed to legit GL people and will never truly "ascend" from normie-> gl, except in very very few fringe cases
ugly people may become normie looking from surgery
thats it
the thing people don't understand is that nobody ever becoems chad or receives chad treatment who isn't genetically predisposed for it to begin with
dude you seem like a nice guy and I respect you for running up your business from nothing to such success, that makes me think you're probably intelligentBrutal comment about my results man
dude you seem like a nice guy and I respect you for running up your business from nothing to such success, that makes me think you're probably intelligent
but i honestly feel you have a psychological issue with surgery etc. you can't see yourself, you see in the mirror what you wanna see, not how you truly look
unattractive is the wrong way to go about it. im sure by how you look atm you werent ugly. its just most people are limited by pheno/harmony for an upper limit in terms of looks. shape of your skull, fwhr etc. things that cant be changed and hardcore define how attractive ur face is
its not that there isnt room for improvement for most as i believe everyone has their niche surgery they can go up 0,5, maybe 1 psl, that is still somewhat tolerable within their harmony but i seriously don't understand any user here who legitimiately believe just by doing A LOT of surgeries, implants, adding unnatural curviture, unnatural angularity and ratios their face will make them attractive
its a huge fucking mental masturbation
surgery follows "rich gets richer" scheme
good looking people with good skull shape, harmony, fwhr etc. can fix their failos and become even better looking
normie faces may improve somewhat, but are usually capped by the things they lack opposed to legit GL people and will never truly "ascend" from normie-> gl, except in very very few fringe cases
ugly people may become normie looking from surgery
thats it
the thing people don't understand is that nobody ever becoems chad or receives chad treatment who isn't genetically predisposed for it to begin with
actractiveness is not as linear as PSL is.@cocainecowboy I get what you're saying. So in general, do you think it's safe to say that the types of girls (in terms of attractiveness) that I matched with in the Tinder experiment are pretty much what I will realistically be able to attract after I have fixed my eye area? I mean is that the reality I most likely need to prepare myself for?
Seriously...
Try a tinder run for yourself. Get tinder gold and set your location in London, New york, LA, Chicago, Portland, Paris, San Francisco, Berlin, Tokyo, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Denver, places in Europe for like 2-4 days and see what you get.@cocainecowboy I get what you're saying. So in general, do you think it's safe to say that the types of girls (in terms of attractiveness) that I matched with in the Tinder experiment are pretty much what I will realistically be able to attract after I have fixed my eye area? I mean is that the reality I most likely need to prepare myself for?
Seriously...
no. dude your eye area is legit fucked. i dont even understand how it wasnt the very first thing you got surgery for anyways?@cocainecowboy I get what you're saying. So in general, do you think it's safe to say that the types of girls (in terms of attractiveness) that I matched with in the Tinder experiment are pretty much what I will realistically be able to attract after I have fixed my eye area? I mean is that the reality I most likely need to prepare myself for?
Seriously...
Try a tinder run for yourself. Get tinder gold and set your location in London, New york, LA, Chicago, Portland, Paris, San Francisco, Berlin, Tokyo, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Denver, places in Europe for like 2-4 days and see what you get.
no. dude your eye area is legit fucked. i dont even understand how it wasnt the very first thing you got surgery for anyways?
if results from Taban turn out good you can def. get better girls than you did on that test
i was just saying a lot of these implants and fillers create fake looking faces that aren't harmonious and girls think its weird looking
surgeries where there's bone broken, rhino, genio, jaw surgeries w/e are a lot more legit, but they're obviously also more risky and less incels are willing to do them
this is why i partly believe "surgery is cope" as in it's a tool for daydreaming-mental masturbation for 8 out of 10 users who see their fate in surgerycelling
I don’t really see how this looks so fake to you, to me I see a massive improvement in the negative orbital vector already
I also used to have a recessed mouth area when smiling but the premaxillary paranasal implant has improved that a lot and reduced those paranasal folds
TBH, I saw the title of the thread and thought how it was kinda fucked how he just did a Tinder experiment with you without asking them posted the results.TBH, after seeing the abysmal results of this Tinder experiment, I'm honestly terrified of doing one of my own. I mean, I have been blackpilled for years now, but I didn't think my reality -- even the scenario that involves getting the greatest amount of improvement possible from fixing my eye area -- would be THIS bad. I am literally looking at spending $20k more to be attractive to girls in the PSL 1-3 range -- or in other words, literally the most unattractive girls in society. Is that really going to be worth it?
Weekend ruined
Good points. I don't think I've mentioned it yet in this thread, but since you brought up the topic, I'll say that I'm considering possible osteotomy surgeries as well. In your opinion, could I benefit from getting one (or more of them) performed to improve my looks in a way that implants aren't able to achieve?
TBH, after seeing the abysmal results of this Tinder experiment, I'm honestly terrified of doing one of my own. I mean, I have been blackpilled for years now, but I didn't think my reality -- even the scenario that involves getting the greatest amount of improvement possible from fixing my eye area -- would be THIS bad. I am literally looking at spending $20k more to be attractive to girls in the PSL 1-3 range -- or in other words, literally the most unattractive girls in society. Is that really going to be worth it?
Weekend ruined
Good points. I don't think I've mentioned it yet in this thread, but since you brought up the topic, I'll say that I'm considering possible osteotomy surgeries as well. In your opinion, could I benefit from getting one (or more of them) performed to improve my looks in a way that implants aren't able to achieve?
I agree that the negative vector orbit is much improved. I'm pretty sure your results will end up being GL overall, but it could just take up to several months (or at least it did in my case) before enough of the swelling has gone down for you to be able to assess the final results.
i was talking about all of your pics altogether, your face's angularity, the curves look absolutely fake. like the color of the skin, the entire tissue just looks weird as fuck. and dont forget it looks even worse in natural lightning and in motionI don’t really see how this looks so fake to you, to me I see a massive improvement in the negative orbital vector already
I also used to have a recessed mouth area when smiling but the premaxillary paranasal implant has improved that a lot and reduced those paranasal folds
@cocainecowboy isnt anti looksmaxxing. lurk more. he’s very realistic when it comes to surgery and how people here are so deluded when it comes to surgery and their expectationsyour such a fucking idiot man, your posts in this thread have convinced me you blackpilled ideolgy has clouded your level of thinking
I mentioned that I swiped right on EVERY GIRL ugly and gl, and it was only ran for a 12 hour time period in a less populated area where most of the girls are prolly subhuman, the pictures I used werent that great either.
you shouldnt take this tinder experiment seriously, I just did this for fun.
On the Other hand, Streege and CocaineCowboy are the last people you should listen to in regards to looksmaxxing, One is obviously anti surgery/anti looksmaxxing while the other just low iq
which ostetomies ? you don't seem recessed.Good points. I don't think I've mentioned it yet in this thread, but since you brought up the topic, I'll say that I'm considering possible osteotomy surgeries as well. In your opinion, could I benefit from getting one (or more of them) performed to improve my looks in a way that implants aren't able to achieve?
I don't know if it's worth the effort man, get your eye surgery from taban then see how you do with women and move forward from thereGood points. I don't think I've mentioned it yet in this thread, but since you brought up the topic, I'll say that I'm considering possible osteotomy surgeries as well. In your opinion, could I benefit from getting one (or more of them) performed to improve my looks in a way that implants aren't able to achieve?
TBH, I saw the title of the thread and thought how it was kinda fucked how he just did a Tinder experiment with you without asking them posted the results.
You can probably get a hotter girl IRL. Remember... location theory is extremely valid and legit. It honestly depends on where he set the location because I’ve been to some places that have butt fuck ugly women. And there’s a reason why men like women 18-25... after that they just get ugly and the collagen reaper is at their doorstep.
Edit: @SurgerySoon you should really spend a few weeks conducting Tinder experiments before you do your eye surgery. dont stick your head in the sand on this one dude. Also you can always get some foreign hot girl as well.
your eye area is huge failo. if i had your eye area i'd def get surgery for itI agree that location theory is legit, but in this case it kind of feels like a strong cope to resort to that as an explanation for why I matched with such repulsive girls. In your opinion, do you honestly think that's why my matches were so bad? Or is it moreso due to overall limitations in attractiveness based on my general pheno?
BTW, why do you think it would be a good idea to run more Tinder experiments before I decide to get eye surgery? Are you saying I should do more of them to show why there really is such a strong justification for fixing my eye area?
yeah, it's fine. Keep your delusion. English is not my native language - not even the second -, but still, if you believe that beeing blackpilled as you are is the key of beeing smart, pragmatic, and wise, keep on coping. saying to surgerysoon that he is an idiot, altough he is wondering if he should continue the surgeries, and full of doubt due to YOU, is probably a sign that you are very smart and have good social skills.just low iq
His eye area is better than mine and mine is abysmal.your eye area is huge failo. if i had your eye area i'd def get surgery for it
i believe yours is way betterHis eye area is better than mine and mine is abysmal.
based on pic/motion ive seen of you and him, id say your eye area is betterHis eye area is better than mine and mine is abysmal.
M, well mine is still fucking ass nonetheless.based on pic/motion ive seen of you and him, id say your eye area is better
the best thing to do IMO is to use morphs and morphs and see which ones are getting the more matches, of course with goodly taken pics.I agree that location theory is legit, but in this case it kind of feels like a strong cope to resort to that as an explanation for why I matched with such repulsive girls. In your opinion, do you honestly think that's why my matches were so bad? Or is it moreso due to overall limitations in attractiveness based on my general pheno?
BTW, why do you think it would be a good idea to run more Tinder experiments before I decide to get eye surgery? Are you saying I should do more of them to show why there really is such a strong justification for fixing my eye area?
dude your eye area is decent. i can totally see girls liking itM, well mine is still fucking ass nonetheless.