Going to use a SurgerySoons Pics for Tinder

[Deleted member 3043]

dude your eye area is decent. i can totally see girls liking it

your lower third being too narrow is something that i would consider way bigger impact

what about his lower third do you find too narrow ? according to his avi his jawline is fine

 

[Deleted member 2486]

what about his lower third do you find too narrow ? according to his avi his jawline is fine

ive seen him in motion him turning his head around in all directions. his eye area is completely fine and his lower third isnt "bad" either. it just for me it makes 0 sense how he fixates on eye area while i would consider his lower third a significantly weaker area than his eye area

 

[Deleted member 3043]

ive seen him in motion him turning his head around in all directions. his eye area is completely fine and his lower third isnt "bad" either. it just for me it makes 0 sense how he fixates on eye area while i would consider his lower third a significantly weaker area than his eye area

i see.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I agree that location theory is legit, but in this case it kind of feels like a strong cope to resort to that as an explanation for why I matched with such repulsive girls. In your opinion, do you honestly think that's why my matches were so bad? Or is it moreso due to overall limitations in attractiveness based on my general pheno?

BTW, why do you think it would be a good idea to run more Tinder experiments before I decide to get eye surgery? Are you saying I should do more of them to show why there really is such a strong justification for fixing my eye area?

Yeah, it could be man. And women over 25 don’t age well. Like seriously, women your age aren’t that attractive to begin with man. I honestly don’t know. You will have better luck meeting women IRL tbh.

You need to stop your delusions about living like a chad btw. You need to be able to talk to women and be naturally comfortable around them, something only possible if you got female attention and whatnot in your development and teen years. You’re chasing the carrot on the stick. You will need to take women out, have a few dates with them, get to know them, get be able to fuck them. If you want to fuck on the first night, go to a club and get a PSL3-4 who’s down. You’re like 30 now. Women aren’t slutty at that age anymore. They are programmed to want to settle down. Either get a fuck ton of money and run money + looks game and fuck 20 year olds or try and weasel your way into some 28 year old after 5 dates.

ive seen him in motion him turning his head around in all directions. his eye area is completely fine and his lower third isnt "bad" either. it just for me it makes 0 sense how he fixates on eye area while i would consider his lower third a significantly weaker area than his eye area

Because my eye bags and ptosis tbh. I don’t think my lower third is that “narrow either”. Sure it’s on the narrow side by a hair but I’ll send a vid rn.

 

[SurgerySoon]

your such a fucking idiot man, your posts in this thread have convinced me you blackpilled ideolgy has clouded your level of thinking


I mentioned that I swiped right on EVERY GIRL ugly and gl, and it was only ran for a 12 hour time period in a less populated area where most of the girls are prolly subhuman, the pictures I used werent that great either.

you shouldnt take this tinder experiment seriously, I just did this for fun.


On the Other hand, Streege and CocaineCowboy are the last people you should listen to in regards to looksmaxxing, One is obviously anti surgery/anti looksmaxxing while the other just low iq

One thing to keep in mind is that with me being easily 13-15 years older than many of the members here on this forum, it means I have lived that much longer than them without getting any sort of validation or interest at all from girls. So it's really hard to avoid not becoming blackpilled at this point.

Yeah, it could be man. And women over 25 don’t age well. Like seriously, women your age aren’t that attractive to begin with man. I honestly don’t know. You will have better luck meeting women IRL tbh.

You need to stop your delusions about living like a chad btw. You need to be able to talk to women and be naturally comfortable around them, something only possible if you got female attention and whatnot in your development and teen years. You’re chasing the carrot on the stick. You will need to take women out, have a few dates with them, get to know them, get be able to fuck them. If you want to fuck on the first night, go to a club and get a PSL3-4 who’s down. You’re like 30 now. Women aren’t slutty at that age anymore. They are programmed to want to settle down. Either get a fuck ton of money and run money + looks game and fuck 20 year olds or try and weasel your way into some 28 year old after 5 dates.

So it sounds like you think my age is going to just as much of a hindrance as my looks when it comes to getting decently-attractive girls to be willing to hookup with me? The reason I ask is because you pointed out my age being 30+, so I'm assuming you think I look pretty much way older than the age limit most attractive girls are willing to consider?

Is that why you said I'd probably have better luck IRL -- simply because of looking too old in the Tinder photos? Or is it a combination of looking too old and lack of natural attractiveness (irrespective of age)?

The reason I'm asking these questions about age is because he actually set my age to 27 in the Tinder experiment, which meant my profile would've shown up on the accounts of at least a handful of female users in their early-mid 20s. It's not like my profile was only showing up on the accounts of age 30+ women.

Also, you pointed out that age 30+ women usually aren't interested in hookups and are typically only interested in LTRs, which also seems to imply that you think I'm simply too old-looking at this point to be attractive to most girls in their 20s (I.e., those who would still be interested in hookups).

... But anyways, it sounds like you are recommending me to simply find some hopefully-not-too-butt-ugly girl to have an LTR and just force myself to be satisfied with that? (Even though it's not something I've ever wanted and isn't something that's compatible with my lifestyle, hobbies, being used to doing whatever I want to do when I'm not working or dealing with school, etc).

I don't know if it's worth the effort man, get your eye surgery from taban then see how you do with women and move forward from there

I get that the eye area is the most egregious detractor, but which osteotomies would you recommend I at least consider getting if I want to become truly GL? Would I benefit from something as invasive as double jaw surgery? @cocainecowboy

which ostetomies ? you don't seem recessed.
May be are you thinking about ZSO ?

Any of them that I would benefit from. Not sure if I need ZSO but maybe double jaw surgery?

 

[rockndogs]

Fakecels me

????? Bro

 

[Deleted member 3043]

double jaw surgery

i don't know if you have shown your profile pic, but if you have any recession, bimax is the way to go, but it will not widen your lower third.
in some extent, palate expander can.
i would always recommand doing soft lookmaxing, then osteotomies, and then if really needed implants.

 

[SurgerySoon]

i don't know if you have shown your profile pic, but if you have any recession, bimax is the way to go, but it will not widen your lower third.
in some extent, palate expander can.
i would always recommand doing soft lookmaxing, then osteotomies, and then if really needed implants.

I think my maxilla is maybe slightly-moderately recessed but not severely so.

@Gosick what location did you use for my Tinder experiment?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I think my maxilla is maybe slightly-moderately recessed but not severely so.

then you should try a AGGA appliance first if it's only the maxila.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

then you should try a AGGA appliance first if it's only the maxila.

AGGA is a scam. Look up “AGGA looksmax”. Their case study made this post. https://ronaldead.com/blog/agga-is-not-the-holy-grail-of-adult-orthodontics

 

[Deleted member 3043]

AGGA is a scam. Look up “AGGA looksmax”. Their case study made this post. https://ronaldead.com/blog/agga-is-not-the-holy-grail-of-adult-orthodontics

Is it the same than FAGGA ? definitively if you have perfect occlusion, you need to move forward/widen both jaw, i don't know if it's possible but it should be.if it's not, it's a major issue for those who have not jaw assymetries.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Is it the same than FAGGA ? definitively if you have perfect occlusion, you need to move forward/widen both jaw, i don't know if it's possible but it should be.if it's not, it's a major issue for those who have not jaw assymetries.

Pretty sure it’s the same thing. I wouldn’t do it. Only reliable thing is surgery.

 

[Dogs]

M, well mine is still fucking ass nonetheless.

Your eye area is seriously not as bad as you make it out to be. It's at least average.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Your eye area is seriously not as bad as you make it out to be. It's at least average.

My eyelids fluctuate throughout the day so later at night they are pretty droopy and I have bad undereyes. The actual eye itself is pretty good. I think I hve good PFL and eye shape but I legit have ptosis.

 

[Dogs]

My eyelids fluctuate throughout the day so later at night they are pretty droopy and I have bad undereyes. The actual eye itself is pretty good. I think I hve good PFL and eye shape but I legit have ptosis.

I think I have slight ptosis as well tbh.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

I think I have slight ptosis as well tbh.

Send pic

 

[Dogs]

Send pic

Sent one

 

[SurgerySoon]

@Amnesia @kota Did you guys see this shit? Every single one of my matches except for one of them was subhuman!

 

[kota]

@Amnesia @kota Did you guys see this shit? Every single one of my matches except for one of them was subhuman!

He only ran it for 12 hours in a small town and swiped right on everyone with a limited number of swipes. If you even got one good looking match doing that you should be able to get more of those quite frequently if you keep running it. Also the pictures being used aren't great for Tinder so you could do better.

Don't let these results get you down man, most girls he swiped on probably didn't even see your profile yet. There are tons more guys than girls on there so your profile won't immediately show up to every girl. Lots of guys barely get matches at all so 33 matches in 12 hours isn't bad regardless. Tinder is skewed.

I think your face with the eye morphs look really good. In my mind there is no doubt you should go through with fixing the eyes to complete the package now that you've already gone this far with everything else. Everything else should take a back seat to that though.

 

[dogeatsgrass]

Maybe have someone run two experiments with eyes fixed and without... In a bigger city (when corona is over). If you get significantly higher number, then go for it; otherwise, it may not improve and then with each surgery, you also run a huge risk of infection and/or failure. Money is also a big issue here because you don't wanna spend your life paying bills just to get 2 more girls. cocainboy is probably the most blackpilled guy. I do feel like you're a good guy and wanna say positive things, but tbh I wanna give black pill and that, you most likely won't be a Chad. I believe you lack facial harmony and expression that mostly chadies have. It's like Charisma that attracts girls too. It's the proportion and genetic quality showing on their face. I am extremely discouraged to get surgeries now too. Is it even worth going through all the trouble just to get few more likes. And even if girls matched, it's not certain they'll date you. A lot of girls just like even if they semi-liked the guy. But once a Chad hits like, they will forget about you.