good diet?

[mouthwashdrinker]

I see people arguing all the time about what’s optimal to eat, i’ve tried carnivore and if i don’t have carbs i get really tired during wrestling and lifting afterwards, what should i be eating?

 

[fezzz]

I see people arguing all the time about what’s optimal to eat, i’ve tried carnivore and if i don’t have carbs i get really tired during wrestling and lifting afterwards, what should i be eating?

Carnivore with fruits such as kiwi, pomegranates, and bananas for vitamins

 

[MA_ascender]

Carnivore with fruits such as kiwi, pomegranates, and bananas for vitamins

That's not carnivore retard

 

[N1666]

That's not carnivore retard

He obviously meant follow something animal based with fruits on the side, ur the retard for not realising that.

 

[fezzz]

That's not carnivore retard

obviously carnivore by its self is for faggots. Your missing out on nutrients and vitamins if you dont include fruits

 

[MA_ascender]

He obviously meant follow something animal based with fruits on the side, ur the retard for not realising that.

obviously carnivore by its self is for faggots. Your missing out on nutrients and vitamins if you dont include fruits

Sorry saars I'm an asshole because im on my bathroom floor trying not to throw up (zyncelling )


It feels like there's a hole in my upper lip

 

[moggerrr4321]

As long as you get 180g of protein it doesn’t really matter

 

[ey88]

Sorry saars I'm an asshole because im on my bathroom floor trying not to throw up (zyncelling )


It feels like there's a hole in my upper lip

How many mgs?

 

[retardpill]

As long as you get 180g of protein it doesn’t really matter

assuming that you're ~180lb?

 

[moggerrr4321]

assuming that you're ~180lb?

That’s where I wanna be peak bulk and I will only be 25%bodyfat so

 

[retardpill]

That’s where I wanna be peak bulk and I will only be 25%bodyfat so

i’m 130lb should i eat a goal weight in protein

 

[Never Get Up]

Carnivore with fruits such as kiwi, pomegranates, and bananas for vitamins

False.

 

[Never Get Up]

As long as you get 180g of protein it doesn’t really matter

False.

 

[Never Get Up]

obviously carnivore by its self is for faggots. Your missing out on nutrients and vitamins if you dont include fruits

Incorrect. You are low IQ. Meat and animal fat has every nutrient required for human beings.

 

[Never Get Up]

He obviously meant follow something animal based with fruits on the side, ur the retard for not realising that.

Fruit is poison.

 

[moggerrr4321]

False.

It works for me i eat 4000 to 4500 calories a day of shit and get 200g of protein in I can’t be fucked clean bulking

 

[Never Get Up]

Raw carnivore and eat only 1 time a day is optimal for health and looks.

All carbohydrate from plants will kill you slowly over a lifetime. They all break down into sugar.

 

[Never Get Up]

It works for me i eat 4000 to 4500 calories a day of shit and get 200g of protein in I can’t be fucked clean bulking

You can’t eat calories.

 

[moggerrr4321]

You can’t eat calories.

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Too bad because I do u gonna stop me

 

[Never Get Up]

Too bad because I do u gonna stop me

You can’t and never will eat a calorie. You are low IQ.

 

[moggerrr4321]

Raw carnivore and eat only 1 time a day is optimal for health and looks.

All carbohydrate from plants will kill you slowly over a lifetime. They all break down into sugar.

Why raw

 

[Never Get Up]

Why raw

Cooking denatures and removes the water solubility.

 

[holy]

Cooking denatures

That's literally beneficial as fuck. Denaturation just means the proteins unfold, making them easier to digest and often MORE bioavailable, not less. It's like pre-chewing your food at a molecular level + cooking kills potential pathogens - our ancestors figured this out through trial and lots of nasty error.

removes the water solubility.

Bullshit.

If anything, gentle cooking can actually help release certain nutrients locked in cellular structures. Think about collagen converting to gelatin when you slow-cook meat. That shit becomes more digestible, not less.

All carbohydrate from plants will kill you slowly over a lifetime.

Pump the brakes.

Our brains run primarily on glucose. Yes, you can survive on ketones, but saying all carbs are deadly is like fucking saying water is toxic because you can drown. The dose and source matter immensely. Our species has thrived on varied diets across different cultures and environments.

eat only 1 time a day is optimal for health and looks.

That can work for some people, sure, but it isn't "optimal" for everyone. You're ignoring the complex reality of human biology and individual differences. Some people thrive on it, others feel like absolute shit.

 

[Never Get Up]

That's literally beneficial as fuck. Denaturation just means the proteins unfold, making them easier to digest and often MORE bioavailable, not less. It's like pre-chewing your food at a molecular level + cooking kills potential pathogens - our ancestors figured this out through trial and lots of nasty error.



Bullshit.

If anything, gentle cooking can actually help release certain nutrients locked in cellular structures. Think about collagen converting to gelatin when you slow-cook meat. That shit becomes more digestible, not less.



Pump the brakes.

Our brains run primarily on glucose. Yes, you can survive on ketones, but saying all carbs are deadly is like fucking saying water is toxic because you can drown. The dose and source matter immensely. Our species has thrived on varied diets across different cultures and environments.



That can work for some people, sure, but it isn't "optimal" for everyone. You're ignoring the complex reality of human biology and individual differences. Some people thrive on it, others feel like absolute shit.

You are low IQ indeed. Not 1g of exogenous carbohydrates are required for human survival.

Ultimate guide regarding carbohydrates, Randle Cycle, calories, weight, and nutritional science | Why humans are obligate hyper carnivores | High IQ

Nutrition science: 1. There are 0 100% controlled, long term studies with humans locked in labs for multiple decades to provide proof on ANY aspect of health and nutrition science. 2. ALL exogenous carbohydrates break down into glucose leading to raised glucose levels which is UNDOUBTEDLY the...

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[holy]

Not 1g of exogenous carbohydrates are required for human survival.

I mean, you're technically right that we don't need "exogenous carbohydrates" to survive, but that's not the same as saying they're harmful.

According to your bankrupt logic, since we don't need clothes to survive, we should all just be naked.

Just because something isn't strictly necessary doesn't make it harmful.


Now, let me just pivot onto your shitty guide.

1. You took a REAL BIOLOGICAL PROCESS (The Randle cycle argument) and just fucking twisted it into something it's not.

Yes, the Randle cycle exists, it's how our bodies manage glucose and fatty acid oxidation. But calling it "chronic inflammation" is such a massive oversimplification that borders on bullshit.
Our bodies are incredibly adept at managing multiple fuel sources - we literally evolved this capability.

2. You claimed:

"humans are obligate hypercarnivores"

This is so fascinating because our evolutionary evidence actually shows we're incredible metabolic generalists.

Omnivore

An omnivore is an organism that regularly consumes a variety of material, including plants, animals, algae, and fungi. They range in size from tiny insects like ants to large creatures—like people.

education.nationalgeographic.org

(explains the characteristics of omnivores and clearly states that humans are omnivores due to their ability to digest both plant and animal matter)

Humans are Omnivores - Evidence

Humans are classic examples of omnivores in all relevant anatomical traits.

www.biologyonline.com

(provides a detailed explanation of human anatomy and physiology, literally highlighting features that support an omnivorous diet)

Look at our teeth, gut length, and enzyme production compared to actual obligate carnivores like cats. We've got amylase in our saliva for fuck's sake - an enzyme specifically for breaking down starches.
Why would we evolve that if we weren't meant to eat any plants?

3. The plant toxin argument is also particularly interesting because it just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary adaptation.

Yes, plants have defense mechanisms. But humans co-evolved with plants, developing detoxification pathways and even benefiting from some of these compounds (hello hormesis).
Many of these "toxins" actually trigger beneficial adaptive responses in our bodies.

4. Your point about controlled nutrition studies is actually solid - long-term controlled nutrition studies are incredibly hard to do.
But then you just go ahead and jump to conclusions that aren't supported by the VERY scientific rigor you're claiming to champion.

The truth here is more complex and honestly more interesting than your reductionist view.

We're not "designed" to eat any one way but adapted to be incredibly versatile omnivores who can thrive on a wide range of diets. That's our actual evolutionary superpower.

 

[Never Get Up]

I mean, you're technically right that we don't need "exogenous carbohydrates" to survive, but that's not the same as saying they're harmful.

According to your bankrupt logic, since we don't need clothes to survive, we should all just be naked.

Just because something isn't strictly necessary doesn't make it harmful.


Now, let me just pivot onto your shitty guide.

1. You took a REAL BIOLOGICAL PROCESS (The Randle cycle argument) and just fucking twisted it into something it's not.

Yes, the Randle cycle exists, it's how our bodies manage glucose and fatty acid oxidation. But calling it "chronic inflammation" is such a massive oversimplification that borders on bullshit.
Our bodies are incredibly adept at managing multiple fuel sources - we literally evolved this capability.

2. You claimed:



This is so fascinating because our evolutionary evidence actually shows we're incredible metabolic generalists.

Omnivore

An omnivore is an organism that regularly consumes a variety of material, including plants, animals, algae, and fungi. They range in size from tiny insects like ants to large creatures—like people.

education.nationalgeographic.org

(explains the characteristics of omnivores and clearly states that humans are omnivores due to their ability to digest both plant and animal matter)

Humans are Omnivores - Evidence

Humans are classic examples of omnivores in all relevant anatomical traits.

www.biologyonline.com

(provides a detailed explanation of human anatomy and physiology, literally highlighting features that support an omnivorous diet)

Look at our teeth, gut length, and enzyme production compared to actual obligate carnivores like cats. We've got amylase in our saliva for fuck's sake - an enzyme specifically for breaking down starches.
Why would we evolve that if we weren't meant to eat any plants?

3. The plant toxin argument is also particularly interesting because it just shows a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary adaptation.

Yes, plants have defense mechanisms. But humans co-evolved with plants, developing detoxification pathways and even benefiting from some of these compounds (hello hormesis).
Many of these "toxins" actually trigger beneficial adaptive responses in our bodies.

4. Your point about controlled nutrition studies is actually solid - long-term controlled nutrition studies are incredibly hard to do.
But then you just go ahead and jump to conclusions that aren't supported by the VERY scientific rigor you're claiming to champion.

The truth here is more complex and honestly more interesting than your reductionist view.

We're not "designed" to eat any one way but adapted to be incredibly versatile omnivores who can thrive on a wide range of diets. That's our actual evolutionary superpower.

Absolutely incorrect all around.

1. Exogenous carbohydrates ARE harmful whether you like that or not. They ALL break down into glucose except for fructose which is metabolized in the liver into triglycerides.

2. The Randle Cycle is the defense mechanism our bodies use to protect the most important cells from glycation damage from sugar (carbohydrates). You will experience elevated blood sugar levels which will cause a problem to your entire body.

3. Humans evolved eating the flesh and fat of animals, NOT plants. We are not omnivores as the Randle Cycle alone proves that.

4. “Look at our teeth”. Hey retard, Hagfish’s have no teeth and guess what? They are carnivores. You just lost all credibility by making such a ridiculous statement.

@slavicpsycho @thereallegend @ey88 @Gaygymmaxx @FaceandBBC

Look at this clown trying to say that eating sugar isn’t harmful.

 

[holy]

1. Exogenous carbohydrates ARE harmful whether you like that or not.

I'm not going to argue with you on this because clearly you're retarded.

Tell that to literally every successful human population throughout history. The article I gave you (National Geographic article) straight up shows how we've evolved specific biological adaptations to handle different food sources, including carbs.

This isn't opinion but observable biology, retard.

2. The Randle Cycle is the defense mechanism our bodies use to protect the most important cells from glycation damage from sugar (carbohydrates). You will experience elevated blood sugar levels which will cause a problem to your entire body.

Holy shit you're butchering basic biochemistry here.

The Randle cycle is a NORMAL METABOLIC PROCESS, not some emergency defense system. It's literally just how our bodies manage different fuel sources.

You're trying to make normal metabolism sound like a pathology, which is complete bullshit.

3. Humans evolved eating the flesh and fat of animals, NOT plants

This is hilarious because the single article that I gave you (Biology Online article) completely demolishes this retarded claim.

We have archeological evidence AND anatomical features that scream "omnivore." We've got enzymes specifically for breaking down plant materials.

AGAIN, why would we evolve those if we weren't meant to eat plants? Make it make sense.

Hey retard, Hagfish have no teeth

Nice cherry-picking, retard.

The Biology Online article specifically warns against this exact kind of oversimplified reasoning. You can't just pick one random feature from one random species and call it proof. Our entire digestive system, from mouth to anus, shows we're built to handle both plant and animal foods.

The evidence is clear as day: we're omnivores. It's in our genes, our guts, and our history. Your YouTube sources don't override basic biology and decades of scientific research. The National Geographic and Biology Online articles lay it out with actual evidence, not just opinions from social media.

You're trying SO hard to force a complex biological system into an oversimplified box, and it's just not working.

Humans are metabolically flexible omnivores as it's our evolutionary advantage.

Deal with it.

 

[holy]

Fruit is poison.

I don't even wanna waste my time on this retarded claim that I can easily pin you down and fuck you on.

 

[Never Get Up]

I don't even wanna waste my time on this retarded claim that I can easily pin you down and fuck you on.

I am unassailable. You are just embarrassing yourself.

You are suffering from Dunning-Kruger. Citing propagandist sources in the means to debunk me. You aren’t the first one to try and fail, nor will you be the last.

Humans are carnivores whether you like that or not. Keep eating your carbohydrates to justify your sugar addiction. I hope you enjoy your chronic systemic inflammation and glycation damage from your mixed diet.

You are low IQ. You are not competent to speak on human nutrition. Go and actually understand the human physiology.

But here’s an actual scientist that IQ mogs you into oblivion. It’s best you sit down and listen son.

 

[holy]

I am unassailable.

Nothing screams insecurity quite like declaring yourself unassailable. Real scientists welcome challenge and scrutiny.

Citing propagandist sources

Yeah, you fucking heard it. National Geographic is propaganda... but random YouTube videos are legitimate.

That's so fucking rich.

National Geographic's information is peer-reviewed and backed by ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL RESEARCH.

Dunning-Kruger

The irony of you misusing Dunning-Kruger while demonstrating it perfectly. You're dismissing established biological science in favor of cherry-picked YouTube content.

Humans are carnivores whether you like that or not.

This isn't about what anyone "likes" - it's about biological facts. We have:

- Amylase in our saliva (for breaking down starches)
- A longer intestinal tract than carnivores
- Omnivorous dental structure
- The ability to derive nutrients from both plant and animal sources

"actual scientist that IQ mogs you into oblivion " -

- Appeal to authority fallacy
- YouTube videos don't override decades of biological research
- The fact you're measuring credibility by "IQ mogging" says everything about your understanding of scientific discourse.

Stick to what you know best, retard.

chronic systemic inflammation and glycation damage

This is so fucking funny. You're throwing around scientific terms without understanding them. The human body has evolved sophisticated mechanisms to handle various food sources. That's literally what makes us successful as a species.

Your entire argument boils down to:

"Muh, retard! Trust these YouTube videos and ignore ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE." -

That's not how science works. The evidence for human omnivory is written in our DNA, our digestive system, and our evolutionary history.

NO amount of YouTube personalities can change basic biology.

Cope like the good pup you are.

 

[Never Get Up]

Nothing screams insecurity quite like declaring yourself unassailable. Real scientists welcome challenge and scrutiny.



Yeah, you fucking heard it. National Geographic is propaganda... but random YouTube videos are legitimate.

That's so fucking rich.

National Geographic's information is peer-reviewed and backed by ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL RESEARCH.



The irony of you misusing Dunning-Kruger while demonstrating it perfectly. You're dismissing established biological science in favor of cherry-picked YouTube content.



This isn't about what anyone "likes" - it's about biological facts. We have:

- Amylase in our saliva (for breaking down starches)
- A longer intestinal tract than carnivores
- Omnivorous dental structure
- The ability to derive nutrients from both plant and animal sources



- Appeal to authority fallacy
- YouTube videos don't override decades of biological research
- The fact you're measuring credibility by "IQ mogging" says everything about your understanding of scientific discourse.

Stick to what you know best, retard.



This is so fucking funny. You're throwing around scientific terms without understanding them. The human body has evolved sophisticated mechanisms to handle various food sources. That's literally what makes us successful as a species.

Your entire argument boils down to:

"Muh, retard! Trust these YouTube videos and ignore ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE." -

That's not how science works. The evidence for human omnivory is written in our DNA, our digestive system, and our evolutionary history.

NO amount of YouTube personalities can change basic biology.

Cope like the good pup you are.

You’re appealing to authority by citing propagandists with no actual evidence to back up their claims.

I didn’t expect much from you anyways. It’s always the negative posts to reputation cels that try to refute me and fail miserably.

All of that heavily glycated brain tissues coming into effect.

 

[holy]

propagandists with no actual evidence to back up their claims

Your ENTIRE argument rests on fucking YouTube videos. National Geographic cites ACTUAL ANATOMICAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.

What's your evidence? "Trust me bro" and some social media personalities?

negative posts to reputation cels that try to refute me and fail miserably

Fucking incel. This is a scientific debate where we're talking about basic human biology. So far, I'm dog walking you like my little bitch.

All of that heavily glycated brain tissues coming into effect.

Oh God, more biochemistry terms you don't understand.

Fun fact: your brain actually produces glucose through gluconeogenesis even when you don't eat carbs.

Why? Because it NEEDS glucose to function properly. Your body is so good at maintaining glucose levels that it'll make its own - almost like we evolved to use multiple fuel sources!

You're literally ignoring:

- Our digestive enzyme profile
- Our gut anatomy
- Our metabolic flexibility
- Archaeological evidence
- The success of diverse human diets across cultures

Keep pretending you've got some special insight that trumps basic biology. You're not saying shit but just showing you don't understand how evolution and human physiology actually work.

The fact that you can't engage with the actual evidence and instead resort to shit like:

"It’s always the negative posts to reputation cels that try to refute me and fail miserably." -

and vague accusations of propaganda just shows you're out of your depth.

You're not invincible. You're a bed rotter cherry-picking Youtube links as a way to sound knowledgeable when you really just sound retarded.

Come back when you've got something more substantial.

 

[Never Get Up]

Your ENTIRE argument rests on fucking YouTube videos. National Geographic cites ACTUAL ANATOMICAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.

What's your evidence? "Trust me bro" and some social media personalities?



Fucking incel. This is a scientific debate where we're talking about basic human biology. So far, I'm dog walking you like my little bitch.



Oh God, more biochemistry terms you don't understand.

Fun fact: your brain actually produces glucose through gluconeogenesis even when you don't eat carbs.

Why? Because it NEEDS glucose to function properly. Your body is so good at maintaining glucose levels that it'll make its own - almost like we evolved to use multiple fuel sources!

You're literally ignoring:

- Our digestive enzyme profile
- Our gut anatomy
- Our metabolic flexibility
- Archaeological evidence
- The success of diverse human diets across cultures

Keep pretending you've got some special insight that trumps basic biology. You're not saying shit but just showing you don't understand how evolution and human physiology actually work.

The fact that you can't engage with the actual evidence and instead resort to shit like:

and vague accusations of propaganda just shows you're out of your depth.

You're not invincible. You're a bed rotter cherry-picking Youtube links as a way to sound knowledgeable when you really just sound retarded.

Come back when you've got something more substantial.

I already stated the facts. So you’re just wasting your breath. This isn’t a debate. This is a murder. You stood no chance before it even began.

I’ll continue to eat my raw meat and animal fat only while you continue to poison yourself with exogenous carbohydrate intake.

 

[holy]

I already stated the facts. So you’re just wasting your breath. This isn’t a debate. This is a murder. You stood no chance before it even began.

I’ll continue to eat my raw meat and animal fat only.

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Look how fast you retreated to "this isn't a debate" when your arguments got dismantled. Good boy.

I already stated the facts.

No, you stated YouTube videos and misinterpreted biochemistry. There's a difference.

This is a murder.

I facefucked basic biology by your galaxy-brain takes.

You stood no chance before it even began.

Yet you can't actually refute any of the biological evidence I presented. Funny how that works.

I’ll continue to eat my raw meat and animal fat only.

I could genuinely give a fuck less of you enjoying your potential parasites and food-borne pathogens What helped humans thrive is COOKING our food. I'm not taking advice from a retard who thinks he's better than the entire history of human evolution.

How does a greycel facefuck you the minute they join??

 

[Never Get Up]

Look how fast you retreated to "this isn't a debate" when your arguments got dismantled. Good boy.



No, you stated YouTube videos and misinterpreted biochemistry. There's a difference.



I facefucked basic biology by your galaxy-brain takes.



Yet you can't actually refute any of the biological evidence I presented. Funny how that works.



I could genuinely give a fuck less of you enjoying your potential parasites and food-borne pathogens What helped humans thrive is COOKING our food. I'm not taking advice from a retard who thinks he's better than the entire history of human evolution.

How does a greycel facefuck you the minute they join??

Stopped reading at parasites. I’ve been eating raw meat and animal fat for 10 months straight.

Saying a bunch of bullshit with a few high vocabulary words doesn’t equate to you being correct in the regards of the topic at hand. A big pile of dogshit is still dogshit.

You are not credible whatsoever. You are a charlatan who doesn’t understand the function of the Randle Cycle.

You are low T and low IQ. Case dismissed. Try again in the next life boyo.

 

[holy]

Stopped reading at parasites. I’ve been eating raw meat and animal fat for 10 months straight.

Saying a bunch of bullshit with a few high vocabulary words doesn’t equate to you being correct in the regards of the topic at hand. A big pile of dogshit is still dogshit.

You are not credible whatsoever. You are a charlatan who doesn’t understand the function of the Randle Cycle.

You are low T and low IQ. Case dismissed. Try again in the next life boyo.

Shut the fuck up, retard. I don't take you seriously anymore. A greycel dog walked your whole argument like the good bitch you are.

 

[Never Get Up]

Shut the fuck up, retard. I don't take you seriously anymore. A greycel dog walked your whole argument like the good bitch you are.

The only thing that you showed was your incompetence on human nutrition. Anyone with remotely anywhere near a 125+ IQ will dismiss anything you’ve stated as absolute garbage.

Hopefully you’re still young and have time to go carnivore before it’s too late. Do not say I didn’t warn you years from now when the health problems kick in from self abuse via carbohydrate consumption.

 

[holy]

before it’s too late

---> Mediterranean peoples

---> Okinawans

They are the LONGEST-LIVED POPULATIONS ON EARTH, but they somehow managed to survive eating.... fucking carbs.

You're not convincing anyone.

health problems kick in from self abuse via carbohydrate consumption.

You're eating RAW MEAT and calling other people's diets self-abuse? The irony is thicker than the parasites probably swimming in that raw meat.

Do not say I didn’t warn you

Oh no! Not the ominous warning from the guy who thinks the Randle cycle is the devil and National Geographic is propaganda! Whatever shall I do

You sound like every other zealot who's convinced they've found THE ONE TRUE WAY™.

Here's a wild thought: maybe the species that conquered every habitat on Earth did it BECAUSE we can thrive on varied diets, not in spite of it.

Keep preaching your raw meat gospel. Just don't expect anyone who understands basic human biology to take you seriously, dumbass.