Good-looking men are abundant, and "shy chad" is a meme

[Mongrelcel]

There is this fantasy that niggas here have that when they looksmax and become a chad that women will be "awed" and "shocked" by their good looks - well, it's not gonna happen.

Women see so many good-looking men, it's not rare for them at all. While a HTN on this forum will get praised and called a slayer - he really isn't anything special to women, he's more along the lines of average. I think we all can agree that GL men are more likely to get around and have social lives filled with women, and subhumans to rot alone, also, women are much likelier to remember then GL guys (since they're only playing attention to them in the first place).

Meaning that a looksmaxed HTN or a chad is gonna have to compete just the same - with his lifestyle, status and personality with all the other good-looking men - because they are much more common than this forum believes, idk if you niggas don't go outside to social events, clubs, parties or festivals, but there is no shortage of GL people there, you can safely bump up the average looks up one or 1.5 points.

So unless the girl is whole leagues below the looks of our "shy ex-incel chad", she's not gonna chase after him, after all, there are other chads that are as appealing lookswise, but they also have all the other traits which he does not.

@forevergymcelling thoughts?

 

[TsarTsar444]

Legit, just take 100mg amphetamine sulfate and chill tbh

 

[incel194012940]

chad is just a normal guy you see ordering McDonald’s tbh

Maher didn’t even know he was gl until PSL started messaging him

 

[Mongrelcel]

Perhaps in an environment like some stupid job, where you are the only GL guy around will have women giving you the special treatment aka approaching, sending strong signals etc, but in a more normal environment with many young people even GL guys are invisible.

I see so many guys with traits that this forum would cream their fucking pans for (colored perfect hunter eyes, good ratios & harmony, or little failos in general), and noone even acknowledges it - they are just as invisible as all others.

So what I'm trying to say basically, is that it's worse than you are currently imagining, and even a chad has to put in tons of work, of course he has it better than a normie or a subhuman - but they're not even in the game, are they?

 

[Deleted member 11097]

There is this fantasy that niggas here have that when they looksmax and become a chad that women will be "awed" and "shocked" by their good looks - well, it's not gonna happen.

Women see so many good-looking men, it's not rare for them at all. While a HTN on this forum will get praised and called a slayer - he really isn't anything special to women, he's more along the lines of average. I think we all can agree that GL men are more likely to get around and have social lives filled with women, and subhumans to rot alone, also, women are much likelier to remember then GL guys (since they're only playing attention to them in the first place).

Meaning that a looksmaxed HTN or a chad is gonna have to compete just the same - with his lifestyle, status and personality with all the other good-looking men - because they are much more common than this forum believes, idk if you niggas don't go outside to social events, clubs, parties or festivals, but there is no shortage of GL people there, you can safely bump up the average looks up one or 1.5 points.

So unless the girl is whole leagues below the looks of our "shy ex-incel chad", she's not gonna chase after him, after all, there are other chads that are as appealing lookswise, but they also have all the other traits which he does not.

@forevergymcelling thoughts?

Good looking men are legitimately rare.

99% of guys look like utter shit

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Insane cope . You’ve never been really gl if this is how you think it works. Bro at chadlite levels women will stare at you everywhere , some will spy on you to get your snap insta ( if they’re not confident enough to approach) some will approach etc. remember this is all happening just cause ur looks not cause status something u did etc. incredibly bluepilled post

 

[Deleted member 20370]

legit, average girls literally match with models on dating apps jfl

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

Cope theres barely any gl dudes

 

[aBetterMii]

Chad is there, always waiting, behind every rock, behind every countertop, behind every car... He's always waiting to slay, no HQNP GF is safe, no roastie, no virgin, he will have his way!

 

[Deleted member 11097]

Imma develop on your point

In college (so young people only) out of a 30k students university, there’s only like 10 guys who actually get pretty much 90% of the girls on campus. The others have to cope with alcohol and social circles.

Trust me, if you were good looking you would see the difference yourself.

 

[Mongrelcel]

chad is just a normal guy you see ordering McDonald’s tbh

Maher didn’t even know he was gl until PSL started messaging him

in our society, even acknowledging a man's looks is super taboo - men are never good-looking, women are always good-looking. A man can be strong, he can be competent, or funny - but never good-looking.

Men are socialized and are supposed to be content with never being the object of desire, to feel content with never feeling "sexy"

I myself have personally known a solid 6psl chad, and this was before I was using this forum - only after I started to become a PSL autist I noticed, "wait this guy looks like a model" - noone has ever given him any special attention, or preferential treatment just because of his looks - he did have a "weak personality too"

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Nah, I seldom see legit chads (ones that PSL consider chad). They're like one in two thousand.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Imma develop on your point

In college (so young people only) out of a 30k students university, there’s only like 10 guys who actually get pretty much 90% of the girls on campus. The others have to cope with alcohol and social circles.

Trust me, if you were good looking you would see the difference yourself.

True many cope w huge male social circle alcohol and talk about girls. Incredible copium

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Imma develop on your point

In college (so young people only) out of a 30k students university, there’s only like 10 guys who actually get pretty much 90% of the girls on campus. The others have to cope with alcohol and social circles.

Trust me, if you were good looking you would see the difference yourself.

True, there are only about 5 6psl chads at my uni. Most men are ugly as fuck

 

[Mongrelcel]

Good looking men are legitimately rare.

99% of guys look like utter shit

well I guess that depends on what you define "good looking", and also where you live - I'm talking about Europe, I have no doubts that Americans on average look A LOT worse.
True chads are rare, but attractive HTNs are not.

Insane cope . You’ve never been really gl if this is how you think it works. Bro at chadlite levels women will stare at you everywhere , some will spy on you to get your snap insta ( if they’re not confident enough to approach) some will approach etc. remember this is all happening just cause ur looks not cause status something u did etc. incredibly bluepilled post

I myself have never been good looking, but when I go out, I see LOADS of good looking dudes - HTNs and chadlite level - and I also see how women interact with them, and it's not how you say that they throw themselves at them, they are almost indifferent

legit, average girls literally match with models on dating apps jfl

datign apps are even worse, but I'm talking about IRL now

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

Nah, I seldom see legit chads (ones that PSL consider chad). They're like one in two thousand.

It depends but the number of ugly dudes is so high cant blame women for only wanting to date 10%

 

[Deleted member 11097]

well I guess that depends on what you define "good looking", and also where you live - I'm talking about Europe, I have no doubts that Americans on average look A LOT worse.
True chads are rare, but attractive HTNs are not.


I myself have never been good looking, but when I go out, I see LOADS of good looking dudes - HTNs and chadlite level - and I also see how women interact with them, and it's not how you say that they throw themselves at them, they are almost indifferent


datign apps are even worse, but I'm talking about IRL now

I live in Bordeaux and Paris, so the average population is by default better looking because of better life conditions and diet. Even then, you don’t see 6’3 broad shouldered guys with athletic bodies and classically handsome faces at every corner of the street. You barely meet one or two per week

 

[Deleted member 17791]

It depends but the number of ugly dudes is so high cant blame women for only wanting to date 10%

I blame them for going for sub 6psl men

What yo doin girl? Keep your standards high queen

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

I blame them for going for sub 6psl men

What yo doin girl? Keep your standards high queen

Gotta be Well groomed,clean/good style/clothes is the basics and thats not even considering how that person looks like lol most guys from my experience dont even have this.

 

[KidIcarus]

Not really, below average and above average have the same % i d say but top tier genetic is rare

It depends tho : indians, asians, north african, africans are all on average worse looking than white people, in France atleast. If average white guy is a 5/10 there, the average ethnic 4/10 because lot seem inbred NGL

Chad is mostly a meme, like 20% of young people are htn/chadlite and i see them everyday, real chad is 1% or less

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Gotta be Well groomed,clean/good style/clothes is the basics and thats not even considering how that person looks like lol most guys from my experience dont even have this.

I mean. I have pretty shit style tbh. I wear turtlenecks every day.

My hair is also kinda a mess ngl.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

well I guess that depends on what you define "good looking", and also where you live - I'm talking about Europe, I have no doubts that Americans on average look A LOT worse.
True chads are rare, but attractive HTNs are not.


I myself have never been good looking, but when I go out, I see LOADS of good looking dudes - HTNs and chadlite level - and I also see how women interact with them, and it's not how you say that they throw themselves at them, they are almost indifferent


datign apps are even worse, but I'm talking about IRL now

Ofc it’s not like they strip in front of them Jfl. But they do give them the benefit of doubt in Convos flirt more often w them much more likely to accept a date etc the list goes on. You won’t know until ur gl I’ve never been that gl either but standards in india are low and w my height and losing some weight let me the tell u the difference is stark and once I lean down and softmax filly I’m expecting it to be a different world

 

[Mongrelcel]

Even then, you don’t see 6’3 broad shouldered guys with athletic bodies and classically handsome faces at every corner of the street. You barely meet one or two per week

That's true, but you do see plenty of 5'11 guys with average bodies with good faces.
I agree, the 6'3 athletic chad with 6psl face is rare, he's almost so rare that he's irrelevant to discussion. And I don't believe you that "he's fucking all the girls on the campus", he's fucking a lot I'm sure, at a certain point it doesn't even make sense mathematically.

It depends but the number of ugly dudes is so high cant blame women for only wanting to date 10%

@averagejoe is not talking about the top 10%, he's talking about the top 0.1% (of course idk the exact percentage that gigachads are)

what I'm saying is that women are exposed to the top 10% males A LOT

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Not really, below average and above average have the same % i d say but top tier genetic is rare

It depends tho : indians, asians, north african, africans are all on average worse looking than white people, in France atleast. If average white guy is a 5/10 there, the average ethnic 4/10 because lot seem inbred NGL

Chad is mostly a meme, like 20% of young people are htn/chadlite and i see them everyday, real chad is 1% or less

Chad is more 1 in 2000

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Ofc it’s not like they strip in front of them Jfl. But they do give them the benefit of doubt in Convos flirt more often w them much more likely to accept a date etc the list goes on. You won’t know until ur gl I’ve never been that gl either but standards in india are low and w my height and losing some weight let me the tell u the difference is stark and once I lean down and softmax filly I’m expecting it to be a different world

They would strip instantly if they saw him

 

[Mongrelcel]

but standards in india are low

buddy

a large % of users from this forum would be very popular with women in india just due to being white, and above average height and frame - not to mention those with above average face too.

This is a discussion about majority white countries.

 

[Lawton88]

Perhaps in an environment like some stupid job, where you are the only GL guy around will have women giving you the special treatment aka approaching, sending strong signals etc, but in a more normal environment with many young people even GL guys are invisible.

I see so many guys with traits that this forum would cream their fucking pans for (colored perfect hunter eyes, good ratios & harmony, or little failos in general), and noone even acknowledges it - they are just as invisible as all others.

So what I'm trying to say basically, is that it's worse than you are currently imagining, and even a chad has to put in tons of work, of course he has it better than a normie or a subhuman - but they're not even in the game, are they?

A bonafide Chad doesn't have to put in all that work unless he is trying to lock down a young top tier Stacey for a long term deal. They get all kinds of attention when out and about at bars etc.

 

[Deleted member 11097]

That's true, but you do see plenty of 5'11 guys with average bodies with good faces.
I agree, the 6'3 athletic chad with 6psl face is rare, he's almost so rare that he's irrelevant to discussion. And I don't believe you that "he's fucking all the girls on the campus", he's fucking a lot I'm sure, at a certain point it doesn't even make sense mathematically.


@averagejoe is not talking about the top 10%, he's talking about the top 0.1% (of course idk the exact percentage that gigachads are)

what I'm saying is that women are exposed to the top 10% males A LOT

Yeah but the top 10% is irrelevant because they are indeed invisible.

It takes one dude to show up and make them all look like crap.

Women desire the best, why settle for worse?

 

[Deleted member 15827]

buddy

a large % of users from this forum would be very popular with women in india just due to being white, and above average height and frame - not to mention those with above average face too.

This is a discussion about majority white countries.

I’m just talking about the top 1 percent of girls aka nord indids wjo aren’t like Thai trannies and simp for sfcels Jfl but yea it may be diff in white countries cos people actually take care of themselves and higher hypergamy

 

[Mongrelcel]

They would strip instantly if they saw him
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personal anecdote: do you think michael yerger is GL? Gl enough to get the "chad treatment" ?

of course, he is - recently I have been to a social gathering with a guy that was his lookalike - both in looks, and in PSL

I didn't notice anyone giving him special treatment.

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

That's true, but you do see plenty of 5'11 guys with average bodies with good faces.
I agree, the 6'3 athletic chad with 6psl face is rare, he's almost so rare that he's irrelevant to discussion. And I don't believe you that "he's fucking all the girls on the campus", he's fucking a lot I'm sure, at a certain point it doesn't even make sense mathematically.


@averagejoe is not talking about the top 10%, he's talking about the top 0.1% (of course idk the exact percentage that gigachads are)

what I'm saying is that women are exposed to the top 10% males A LOT

There are some number of HTN yes But its very very rare even in a country like germany which is considered „chad“ country. Most guys imo get gf by social circle/status/money personality or by being tall with decent muscle. not by being super handsome which thats why i view prettyboy as super rare and ideal.

 

[Deleted member 1209]

Women are chadsexuals. As long you’re above a certain looks threshold and you’re in their vicinity a decent chunk of women will be DTF

 

[Deleted member 21700]

subhumanity is abundant among the general population but only good looking guys are visible in the eyes of women, even the ugliest women out there. Hypergamy is just horrible.

 

[Blackgymmax]

No shit but atleast an HTN gymcel lives a good llife actually getting girls when he approaches. as HTN you dont get this fantastic life w women. you just barely meet the threshold to fuck lmao

 

[Deleted member 14160]

Nah, I seldom see legit chads (ones that PSL consider chad). They're like one in two thousand.

only this niggas opinion counts cuz hes half faggot

 

[Deleted member 17791]

personal anecdote: do you think michael yerger is GL? Gl enough to get the "chad treatment" ?

of course, he is - recently I have been to a social gathering with a guy that was his lookalike - both in looks, and in PSL

I didn't notice anyone giving him special treatment.

I don't think they overtly treat chad better, They usually just fuck them behind closed doors.

Women still try to not look superficial in public.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Yeah but the top 10% is irrelevant because they are indeed invisible.

It takes one dude to show up and make them all look like crap.

Women desire the best, why settle for worse?

but at this point the PSL/looks theory is falling apart (at least for me).

The level of which you are talking about cannot be reached to looskmaxing - it would be extremely rare, did it even happen in PSL history that someone ascended to that level of a chad?

Like, what does that mean for me? I know I can improve my looks, maybe even significantly - but I never will be 6'3 with a perfect face.

Is the looks theory even valid for men as a strategy to get laid then? Because I do agree with you, the level of looks to actually get attention is insanely high, and a HTN won't cut it, as I said, there's plenty of them around.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

only this niggas opinion counts cuz hes half faggot

I have female gaze. I only consider top 0.05% of men to not be ugly.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

but at this point the PSL/looks theory is falling apart (at least for me).

The level of which you are talking about cannot be reached to looskmaxing - it would be extremely rare, did it even happen in PSL history that someone ascended to that level of a chad?

Like, what does that mean for me? I know I can improve my looks, maybe even significantly - but I never will be 6'3 with a perfect face.

Is the looks theory even valid for men as a strategy to get laid then? Because I do agree with you, the level of looks to actually get attention is insanely high, and a HTN won't cut it, as I said, there's plenty of them around.

Blackpill only matters when you're very good looking/ugly. It doesn't matter too much for most people

 

[Aesthetics_III]

You have to be ridiculously good looking to get treated substantially different. It’s not enough to be sexually attractive you need to look like a walking statue, Gandy-tier.

 

[latincell95]

There is this fantasy that niggas here have that when they looksmax and become a chad that women will be "awed" and "shocked" by their good looks - well, it's not gonna happen.

Women see so many good-looking men, it's not rare for them at all. While a HTN on this forum will get praised and called a slayer - he really isn't anything special to women, he's more along the lines of average. I think we all can agree that GL men are more likely to get around and have social lives filled with women, and subhumans to rot alone, also, women are much likelier to remember then GL guys (since they're only playing attention to them in the first place).

Meaning that a looksmaxed HTN or a chad is gonna have to compete just the same - with his lifestyle, status and personality with all the other good-looking men - because they are much more common than this forum believes, idk if you niggas don't go outside to social events, clubs, parties or festivals, but there is no shortage of GL people there, you can safely bump up the average looks up one or 1.5 points.

So unless the girl is whole leagues below the looks of our "shy ex-incel chad", she's not gonna chase after him, after all, there are other chads that are as appealing lookswise, but they also have all the other traits which he does not.

@forevergymcelling thoughts?

I disagree. I think it has to do more with location than anything else. I live in the U.S. and when I open up an Amos account, I literally seen subhumans, low/mid tier white normies, and other deathnics.

Maybe somewhere with a higher density population like NYC or LA you’ll start seeing people like you describing, but not in the southern U.S.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

You have to be ridiculously good looking to get treated substantially different. It’s not enough to be sexually attractive you need to look like a walking statue, Gandy-tier.

This.

Only gigachads get that kind of treatment.

 

[Looks234]

Women see so many good-looking men, it's not rare for them at all. While a HTN on this forum will get praised and called a slayer

yea online. htn’s get chased by girls irl jfl.

 

[Deleted member 11097]

but at this point the PSL/looks theory is falling apart (at least for me).

The level of which you are talking about cannot be reached to looskmaxing - it would be extremely rare, did it even happen in PSL history that someone ascended to that level of a chad?

Like, what does that mean for me? I know I can improve my looks, maybe even significantly - but I never will be 6'3 with a perfect face.

Is the looks theory even valid for men as a strategy to get laid then? Because I do agree with you, the level of looks to actually get attention is insanely high, and a HTN won't cut it, as I said, there's plenty of them around.

I am talking from personal experience and how I am treated in real life. Women pay first class flights to Miami for me, I get bottles that cost 4K euros as gifts from them and have a huge social network with important people based on looks alone.

 

[Mongrelcel]

No shit but atleast an HTN gymcel loves a good llife actually getting girls when he approaches. as HTN you dont get this fantastic life w women. you just barely meet the threshold to fuck lmao

seems like it - that's why I made this thread, because many people here think that being GL means women automatically lining up to fuck you no matter what. You've still gotta do the legwork, and still perform all the things the male gender role requires you to do - only the absolute 0.1% chads like @averagejoe said get to escape the rat race

But it means that playing by the rules is not possible - you can't looksmax to the point where you aren't forced to act like a dog to get even a tiny attention from women. It's just not possible.

yea online. htn’s get chased by girls irl jfl.

yeah, and I'm saying that they don't

 

[forevergymcelling]

There is this fantasy that niggas here have that when they looksmax and become a chad that women will be "awed" and "shocked" by their good looks - well, it's not gonna happen.

Women see so many good-looking men, it's not rare for them at all. While a HTN on this forum will get praised and called a slayer - he really isn't anything special to women, he's more along the lines of average. I think we all can agree that GL men are more likely to get around and have social lives filled with women, and subhumans to rot alone, also, women are much likelier to remember then GL guys (since they're only playing attention to them in the first place).

Meaning that a looksmaxed HTN or a chad is gonna have to compete just the same - with his lifestyle, status and personality with all the other good-looking men - because they are much more common than this forum believes, idk if you niggas don't go outside to social events, clubs, parties or festivals, but there is no shortage of GL people there, you can safely bump up the average looks up one or 1.5 points.

So unless the girl is whole leagues below the looks of our "shy ex-incel chad", she's not gonna chase after him, after all, there are other chads that are as appealing lookswise, but they also have all the other traits which he does not.

@forevergymcelling thoughts?

I agree with the fact that there is no shortage of good looking men.

But a lot of these guys are very high inhb and beta. Some guys are just not built to slay.

You have to also consider other factors. Contrary to most people's beliefs on here, behavior and pheno can be make or break factors

For example

If you posses a certain pheno which one girls prefers, this can bump your rating by 1. It also goes the other way, if a girl does not like your pheno, you will lose one point.

Same goes for behavior, a girl can be attracted to either loud extroverted jocks or introverted sensitive pussies, this can also alter her perception of you by one point.

Consider a scenario where a girl likes Nerdics who are loud extroverts, life of the party types
In the vicinity there are two guys, a HTN loud Nerdic jock and a quiet, shy, med clean cut chad

Suddenly the perceived rating for the Nerdic is +2, and the perceived rating for the med chad is -2. The Nerdic is bumped up to Chad tier and the Med down to HTN tier

@Chadethnic101

 

[latincell95]

I blame them for going for sub 6psl men

What yo doin girl? Keep your standards high queen

YAAAAAS SLAAAAY QUEEEEN

 

[forevergymcelling]

Also legit chads are incredibly rare

I am rarely mogged in public as a chadlite. I see a Chad maybe once every 3 months or even more

 

[Deleted member 11097]

Also legit chads are incredibly rare

I am rarely mogged in public as a chadlite. I see a Chad maybe once every 3 months or even more

Exactly this

Semi good looking people can be seen often. Men who have the full package are extremely rare

 

[Aesthetics_III]

This.

Only gigachads get that kind of treatment.

Indeed. and there is a big difference between Gigachad and Chad