Good looking people, educate this forum on the down sides of having looks

[Crusile]

@Reconstitution i remeber you mentioning your experience of negative halo effects due to your looks


halo effect is true, but it's not all positive/promoting of overall mental well-being.

 

[Crusile]

-imagine living life as an objectified object, your mind/self reduced to a physical object in the eyes of everyone (*universally attractive*). Ofc, not ideal

-you feel like a tension causing variable of jealousy, insecurity

-all your accomplishments being tied to your looks, everyone is aware of the halo effect and adjust their expectations accordingly

 

[Deleted member 28896]

The difference in how people treat you online or on the phone and how people treat you irl.

 

[chadcel;]

I find that some LTN and below tend to have bias against you, maybe jealousy or intimidation or people who bullied them in HS looked like you

Like it's hard to interact with a group of subhumans for me unless we are friends from when I was subhuman too

I also don't think it's as easy with girls as people say but maybe Im not that GL or not enough social skills, like I get girls interested easily but I don't have them throwing themselves at me to have sex like incels say online. Maybe its cause Im not social enough to be at places where this can happen but idk

 

[Crusile]

The difference in how people treat you online or on the phone and how people treat you irl.

does it make you feel undeserving? like of imposter syndrome?

 

[Dodevu]

0 downsides

 

[Deleted member 27511]

@Reconstitution i remeber you mentioning your experience of negative halo effects due to your looks


halo effect is true, but it's not all positive/promoting of overall mental well-being.

There are none

 

[Lebgfinal]

As much as its possible to cope that looks do have some disadvantage, its clearly better to be objectified than not all. Don't get me wrong, it can be annoying but most of the advantages you get by being GL are huge confidence boosters in all area of your life. Multiples girls complimenting on your looks makes you feels like you have value, no matter how much its told etc.. It's just a generally better life treatement. A subhuman like me per example will never get these, which is worse because you then get absolutely no validation from that, and that makes you generally less confident in yourself at the end of the day.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Yeah, I don't mind mentioning, since this is anonymous, but my looks got me sexualy abused by cousins, babysitters, teachers, and teachers assistants. As crazy as it sounds, I don't even trust my own mother at times. But that carried with me until the end of highschool, I suppose I was smart enough to hide/suppress it outwardly, but, the women I would start relationships with would eventually realize I was mentally fucked, as a result, I have never had a relationship past 1 month, because I can't bring myself to lie about issues I have. I realize, especially, that the women that approach you over you looks, are really bad people, as a result, I don't respond to anyone that approaches me, it's always with bad intentions, women likely think like this as well, about the men that randomly approach them.

I need professional help, obviously, just need the money for it, which I should have after completing school.

That's the female side of things, I was sexually abused by a lot of older women. The biggest regret I have pertaining to that, is just that i didn't tell anyone, because one teacher in particular was really brazen with her advances, she would hold me behind as a "troublemaker" even if I didn't initiate situations. I never understood why she did that until I was an adult. But during that time, she eventually made her fist advance, which was putting her hands in my pants. I guess I reacted a weird way, and she said, and these words are still suck in my mind, "you know you like it", I can still hear her voice when I type this. I was even physically small at the time, I was much bigger than her, but it's so weird to think back on how "disabled" I was in the moment, It was likely because when other women abused me, you just froze up and they did what they wanted. I only regret not telling because I know she and many others likely went on to do it to other boys. I was just fucking stupid at that time and didn't think anyone would believe me. I think they would have, I should have said something. I actually found some of the women, after school, through social media, never acted on it.


I gotta stop typing there, I'm actually in tears as I type this.

=====================


On the male side of things, most boys just hated me, luckily, I was never sexually abused by a man, that probably would have really fucked me, but the kids growing up did not like me, they pressed me 24/7, that really muted my feelings towards the world, I used to think everyone was a robot that simply shutdown at night, when I would go to sleep. I definitely planed on "ER", fortunately, I couldn't get ahold of any weapons, because that was what really prevented me. But you get the gist.

Yeah, my looks have never won me anything but attention here and there, that's it. Everything else just ruined me, for now.

 

[Guba]

Obviously more benefits than disadvantages, but some things that come to mind:

-having "too many" options as a good-looking person can tempt you into becoming an asshole who cheats on everyone and may not find fulfilling, patient and self-sacrificial love and relationships

-if you are good-looking in your youth and age badly, it might be difficult to cope with the change. Of course good-looking people also age better on average, and there are some actions you can take to prevent poor ageing

-you might encounter people, usually of the same sex, who are hostile to you due to you being good-looking and being perceived as a threat. But obviously much more commonly people treat you well rather than badly for having good looks. Yet exceptions exist

-having everything handed on a silver platter due to good looks may stunt emotional growth, a sense of self-development, and various other positive traits and skills that are developed through adversity and challenges

That being said, the benefits of being good-looking FAR outweigh the possible disadvantages of not being so

 

[sub5outsider]

People hate others success they will always want you to be down .If your attractive they will be even more happier seeing you down if your ugly they wont care that much.

 

[Crusile]

I find that some LTN and below tend to have bias against you, maybe jealousy or intimidation or people who bullied them in HS looked like you

Like it's hard to interact with a group of subhumans for me unless we are friends from when I was subhuman too

I also don't think it's as easy with girls as people say but maybe Im not that GL or not enough social skills, like I get girls interested easily but I don't have them throwing themselves at me to have sex like incels say online. Maybe its cause Im not social enough to be at places where this can happen but idk

women use looks as a proxy indicators for personality, they're not lying when they say they only care for personality but also seem to select for looks


Achievement not lining up with your "measured opportunities" is a massive red flag, negative halo effect of looks.

 

[Sprinkles]

niggas hating on a nigga for no reason

niggas get mad at a nigga just for existing

you look ugly niggas gonna hate

you look good niggas STILL gonna hate

 

[Crusile]

Being invisible is everything. If you have looks lol good luck staying under the radar literally ever, everyone will recognize you. Death sentence for introverts who want to be left alone

Over for your bank robbing career

 

[The Thinker]

Yeah, I don't mind mentioning, since this is anonymous, but my looks got me sexualy abused by cousins, babysitters, teachers, and teachers assistants. As crazy as it sounds, I don't even trust my own mother at times. But that carried with me until the end of highschool, I suppose I was smart enough to hide/suppress it outwardly, but, the women I would start relationships with would eventually realize I was mentally fucked, as a result, I have never had a relationship past 1 month, because I can't bring myself to lie about issues I have. I realize, especially, that the women that approach you over you looks, are really bad people, as a result, I don't respond to anyone that approaches me, it's always with bad intentions, women likely think like this as well, about the men that randomly approach them.

I need professional help, obviously, just need the money for it, which I should have after completing school.

That's the female side of things, I was sexually abused by a lot of older women. The biggest regret I have pertaining to that, is just that i didn't tell anyone, because one teacher in particular was really brazen with her advances, she would hold me behind as a "troublemaker" even if I didn't initiate situations. I never understood why she did that until I was an adult. But during that time, she eventually made her fist advance, which was putting her hands in my pants. I guess I reacted a weird way, and she said, and these words are still suck in my mind, "you know you like it", I can still hear her voice when I type this. I was even physically small at the time, I was much bigger than her, but it's so weird to think back on how "disabled" I was in the moment, It was likely because when other women abused me, you just froze up and they did what they wanted. I only regret not telling because I know she and many others likely went on to do it to other boys. I was just fucking stupid at that time and didn't think anyone would believe me. I think they would have, I should have said something. I actually found some of the women, after school, through social media, never acted on it.


I gotta stop typing there, I'm actually in tears as I type this.

=====================


On the male side of things, most boys just hated me, luckily, I was never sexually abused by a man, that probably would have really fucked me, but the kids growing up did not like me, they pressed me 24/7, that really muted my feelings towards the world, I used to think everyone was a robot that simply shutdown at night, when I would go to sleep. I definitely planed on "ER", fortunately, I couldn't get ahold of any weapons, because that was what really prevented me. But you get the gist.

Yeah, my looks have never won me anything but attention here and there, that's it. Everything else just ruined me, for now.

It's not your fault

 

[Crusile]

Holy shit, imagine the negative halo effects that a incel ,previously ugly person who became "attractive", would experience

So brutal wtf, I can't say more

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Damn, I look back on it, yeah, the women are just as depraved as the men at times. They always did what they wanted, no different. Drives me fucking crazy when I see people saying "where were those teachers at", and other sick shit.

Boys getting molested is always overlooked, and men perpetuate it, probably because of porn fantasies.

Porn is so fucked, my cousins and sitters would always have porn, they would always show you the videos and then have you "act" it out.

I STILL REMEMBER THE WORDS "you wanna try it out". I still remember that shit.


Yeah my mind is fucked.

 

[Crusile]

Yeah, I don't mind mentioning, since this is anonymous, but my looks got me sexualy abused by cousins, babysitters, teachers, and teachers assistants. As crazy as it sounds, I don't even trust my own mother at times. But that carried with me until the end of highschool, I suppose I was smart enough to hide/suppress it outwardly, but, the women I would start relationships with would eventually realize I was mentally fucked, as a result, I have never had a relationship past 1 month, because I can't bring myself to lie about issues I have. I realize, especially, that the women that approach you over you looks, are really bad people, as a result, I don't respond to anyone that approaches me, it's always with bad intentions, women likely think like this as well, about the men that randomly approach them.

I need professional help, obviously, just need the money for it, which I should have after completing school.

That's the female side of things, I was sexually abused by a lot of older women. The biggest regret I have pertaining to that, is just that i didn't tell anyone, because one teacher in particular was really brazen with her advances, she would hold me behind as a "troublemaker" even if I didn't initiate situations. I never understood why she did that until I was an adult. But during that time, she eventually made her fist advance, which was putting her hands in my pants. I guess I reacted a weird way, and she said, and these words are still suck in my mind, "you know you like it", I can still hear her voice when I type this. I was even physically small at the time, I was much bigger than her, but it's so weird to think back on how "disabled" I was in the moment, It was likely because when other women abused me, you just froze up and they did what they wanted. I only regret not telling because I know she and many others likely went on to do it to other boys. I was just fucking stupid at that time and didn't think anyone would believe me. I think they would have, I should have said something. I actually found some of the women, after school, through social media, never acted on it.


I gotta stop typing there, I'm actually in tears as I type this.

=====================


On the male side of things, most boys just hated me, luckily, I was never sexually abused by a man, that probably would have really fucked me, but the kids growing up did not like me, they pressed me 24/7, that really muted my feelings towards the world, I used to think everyone was a robot that simply shutdown at night, when I would go to sleep. I definitely planed on "ER", fortunately, I couldn't get ahold of any weapons, because that was what really prevented me. But you get the gist.

Yeah, my looks have never won me anything but attention here and there, that's it. Everything else just ruined me, for now.

Thanks you for sharing, literal crucial essential reading material for all "looksmaxxers"

 

[chadcel;]

Holy shit, imagine the negative halo effects that a incel ,previously ugly person who became "attractive", would experience

So brutal wtf, I can't say more

can you elaborate on what you think of this, this is kinda what happened to me during puberty would be interesting to hear unbiased opinions

 

[Deleted member 29796]

I'm so physically weak when I think about that shit. Wrestling, weightlifting, kickboxing, all those years, and I still turn into a child when I think about that stuff. As a grown ass man.

And imagine if I tell a future partner about it? Yeah, they might be sympathetic, if I find the right person, but they will never look at you the same. That's the truth. NO ONE, ever looks at you the same, including all of you.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Definitely protect your kids, if you have them, and lookout for other children, if you can. Get that porn out of your lives, it was definitely the porn that caused all of this shit.

Maybe that will help some people, idk. But yeah, definitely done after this, unfortunately, because I did enjoy helping people from time to time.

 

[Crusile]

As much as its possible to cope that looks do have some disadvantage, its clearly better to be objectified than not all. Don't get me wrong, it can be annoying but most of the advantages you get by being GL are huge confidence boosters in all area of your life. Multiples girls complimenting on your looks makes you feels like you have value, no matter how much its told etc.. It's just a generally better life treatement. A subhuman like me per example will never get these, which is worse because you then get absolutely no validation from that, and that makes you generally less confident in yourself at the end of the day.

No it doesn't matter, there are plenty of happy ugly people. You don't need to be objectified to have self worth

 

[Deleted member 19957]

Yeah, I don't mind mentioning, since this is anonymous, but my looks got me sexualy abused by cousins, babysitters, teachers, and teachers assistants. As crazy as it sounds, I don't even trust my own mother at times. But that carried with me until the end of highschool, I suppose I was smart enough to hide/suppress it outwardly, but, the women I would start relationships with would eventually realize I was mentally fucked, as a result, I have never had a relationship past 1 month, because I can't bring myself to lie about issues I have. I realize, especially, that the women that approach you over you looks, are really bad people, as a result, I don't respond to anyone that approaches me, it's always with bad intentions, women likely think like this as well, about the men that randomly approach them.

I need professional help, obviously, just need the money for it, which I should have after completing school.

That's the female side of things, I was sexually abused by a lot of older women. The biggest regret I have pertaining to that, is just that i didn't tell anyone, because one teacher in particular was really brazen with her advances, she would hold me behind as a "troublemaker" even if I didn't initiate situations. I never understood why she did that until I was an adult. But during that time, she eventually made her fist advance, which was putting her hands in my pants. I guess I reacted a weird way, and she said, and these words are still suck in my mind, "you know you like it", I can still hear her voice when I type this. I was even physically small at the time, I was much bigger than her, but it's so weird to think back on how "disabled" I was in the moment, It was likely because when other women abused me, you just froze up and they did what they wanted. I only regret not telling because I know she and many others likely went on to do it to other boys. I was just fucking stupid at that time and didn't think anyone would believe me. I think they would have, I should have said something. I actually found some of the women, after school, through social media, never acted on it.


I gotta stop typing there, I'm actually in tears as I type this.

=====================


On the male side of things, most boys just hated me, luckily, I was never sexually abused by a man, that probably would have really fucked me, but the kids growing up did not like me, they pressed me 24/7, that really muted my feelings towards the world, I used to think everyone was a robot that simply shutdown at night, when I would go to sleep. I definitely planed on "ER", fortunately, I couldn't get ahold of any weapons, because that was what really prevented me. But you get the gist.

Yeah, my looks have never won me anything but attention here and there, that's it. Everything else just ruined me, for now.

Just invent yourself a life theory.

 

[Lebgfinal]

No it doesn't matter, there are plenty of happy ugly people. You don't need to be objectified to have self worth

It's difficult to be happy if you get bad treatement because of your looks... No incel want to be alone, they all want a gf, and the fact they dont have any make them feel worse about their life in general.

 

[Crusile]

Definitely protect your kids, if you have them, and lookout for other children, if you can. Get that porn out of your lives, it was definitely the porn that caused all of this shit.

Maybe that will help some people, idk. But yeah, definitely done after this, unfortunately, because I did enjoy helping people from time to time.

Isee, thanks for discussing i really appreciate your insights and knowledge. Probably my favourite forum interaction/user ever. like you said, it's anonymous. noone can think poorly if they don't know you personally

 

[Crusile]

I may have phrased that poorly but yea i just mean, I know what you mean

 

[Crusile]

I may have phrased that poorly but yea i just mean, I know what you mean

 

[Interested]

I am now convinced that you were trolling this whole time. Congratulations, I fell for it....

 

[Deleted member 19957]

JFL at ppls believing that there are any downsides in being really good looking. Sure there might be jealousy here and there, but even then i'm pretty sure most normies are so fcking bluepilled that they'd subconsciously want to be friend with you.


"Man i got uber lucky at birth, i can't tolerate that burden anymore"

 

[Crusile]

I am now convinced that you were trolling this whole time. Congratulations, I fell for it....

cope like the pope, to most people's surprise, this is my most true belief. Recon gave me the inspiration to own/destory look theory (with the goal of reducing looks theory caused suffering)

No one else believed in me or saw what I was getting at

 

[Interested]

cope like the pope

lel

Recon gave me the inspiration to own/destory look theory (with the goal of reducing looks theory caused suffering)

I respect you for that, truly. But claiming that good looks will affect your life negatively is dishonest.

 

[Crusile]

JFL at ppls believing that there are any downsides in being really good looking. Sure there might be jealousy here and there, but even then i'm pretty sure most normies are so fcking bluepilled that they'd subconsciously want to be friend with you.


"Man i got uber lucky at birth, i can't tolerate that burden anymore" View attachment 2242825

the true net effects of looks are unknown, read my past threads that describe tbe intertanglement of physical problems that can affect your mental state, and looks

 

[Crusile]

lel

I respect you for that, truly. But claiming that good looks will affect your life negatively is dishonest.

read the responses ITT. Looks have both upsides and downsides, with the net effect being unknown

 

[Deleted member 29581]

Holy shit, imagine the negative halo effects that a incel ,previously ugly person who became "attractive", would experience

So brutal wtf, I can't say more

Yeah, I can confidently say I didn’t ascend until like last october and by the end of my time at that school mainly only women liked me and most dudes envied me, still had a few good friends though.

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

If;

Looks = Personality

Then the way you look not only affects society's treatment towards you...

But also their expectation of you to match the personality they think of you.

There is a much higher expectation from you to be successful, charming, suave and ambitous.

Which is a good and a bad thing.

In some ways, you can't just chill or be a loser.

In other ways, society will let you know that you need to be somthing, that something is expected of you maybe to be a poster boy for the field youre in.

But the disappointment is harsh too, because they think you must be ambitious, charming, fit and resilient than others and hence you have more responsibility to succeed in career or women.

Which is where people who looksmaxxed recently face the whole mentalcel issue - because their old persnality (not perceived but actual - who they are as a person outside of social situations - core self-esteem, discipline, resilience ) hasn't matched up to their looks and hence now perceived personality.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

I will be back @Crusile, going to take at least a week away. Plus have some medical stuff to tend to. Need to stop running away from my problems, this was cathartic though.

Plus, need to get better with helping people, I have an obligation to help others, and if I can turn things around, I can help others more efficiently.

Lot of lost people on here, gotta help them, and honestly, I can't talk to anyone else, most don't understand, I can't relate with most people, at all.



Strange as it sounds, I never had anyone to look to or talk to, I had to talk to myself a lot, argue with myself a lot, you do provide a guidance I never had, I want to be that for others. You seem wise beyond your years, scarily wise.

 

[Deleted member 29796]

I'm not ashamed of my past, I just hate see the response to my past, seeing how nasty people can be, that's what hurts. But I realize, they hardly do it to be mean, they do it because they don't know better, and because they have been harmed.

See you in a bit.

 

[Interested]

read the responses ITT. Looks have both upsides and downsides, with the net effect being unknown

Even after reading through the responses, I just think the benefits of being attractive outweigh the drawbacks.

I still support you though

 

[AppealMaxxing]

If;

Looks = Personality

Then the way you look not only affects society's treatment towards you...

But also their expectation of you to match the personality they think of you.

There is a much higher expectation from you to be successful, charming, suave and ambitous.

Which is a good and a bad thing.

In some ways, you can't just chill or be a loser.

In other ways, society will let you know that you need to be somthing, that something is expected of you maybe to be a poster boy for the field youre in.

But the disappointment is harsh too, because they think you must be ambitious, charming, fit and resilient than others and hence you have more responsibility to succeed in career or women.

Which is where people who looksmaxxed recently face the whole mentalcel issue - because their old persnality (not perceived but actual - who they are as a person outside of social situations - core self-esteem, discipline, resilience ) hasn't matched up to their looks and hence now perceived personality.

This is an interesting theory.
If you are good-looking people expect more of you (some variance of the halo effect) and if you fail they'll be more dissapointed than when a normie fails.
If you are ugly people expect less of you, so they will be more surprised if you succeed (or they think you are just compensating )
All-in-all, concerning expectations it's probably best to be as normie as possible, because there are no expectations.

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

This is an interesting theory.
If you are good-looking people expect more of you (some variance of the halo effect) and if you fail they'll be more dissapointed than when a normie fails.
If you are ugly people expect less of you, so they will be more surprised if you succeed (or they think you are just compensating )
All-in-all, concerning expectations it's probably best to be as normie as possible, because there are no expectations.

Exactly

 

[Interested]

You seem wise beyond your years, scarily wise.

pretty sure @Crusile claimed to be in his 40s, which doesn't make it that surprising to be "scarily wise".

 

[LooksThinker]

ok

 

[Crusile]

pretty sure @Crusile claimed to be in his 40s, which doesn't make it that surprising to be "scarily wise".

Im 20 yrs old

 

[soontoaccend]

@Reconstitution i remeber you mentioning your experience of negative halo effects due to your looks


halo effect is true, but it's not all positive/promoting of overall mental well-being.

The biggest downside is that I have too many women drool over me and im always drowning in pussy. Life is so hard fr

 

[Crusile]

If;

Looks = Personality

Then the way you look not only affects society's treatment towards you...

But also their expectation of you to match the personality they think of you.

There is a much higher expectation from you to be successful, charming, suave and ambitous.

Which is a good and a bad thing.

In some ways, you can't just chill or be a loser.

In other ways, society will let you know that you need to be somthing, that something is expected of you maybe to be a poster boy for the field youre in.

But the disappointment is harsh too, because they think you must be ambitious, charming, fit and resilient than others and hence you have more responsibility to succeed in career or women.

Which is where people who looksmaxxed recently face the whole mentalcel issue - because their old persnality (not perceived but actual - who they are as a person outside of social situations - core self-esteem, discipline, resilience ) hasn't matched up to their looks and hence now perceived personality.

brutal for looksmaxxer's hope of ascension. they need to listen, grow up, and stop with this nonsense of wasting money mechanically changing their face

 

[lonelycurry]

Yeah, I don't mind mentioning, since this is anonymous, but my looks got me sexualy abused by cousins, babysitters, teachers, and teachers assistants. As crazy as it sounds, I don't even trust my own mother at times. But that carried with me until the end of highschool, I suppose I was smart enough to hide/suppress it outwardly, but, the women I would start relationships with would eventually realize I was mentally fucked, as a result, I have never had a relationship past 1 month, because I can't bring myself to lie about issues I have. I realize, especially, that the women that approach you over you looks, are really bad people, as a result, I don't respond to anyone that approaches me, it's always with bad intentions, women likely think like this as well, about the men that randomly approach them.

I need professional help, obviously, just need the money for it, which I should have after completing school.

That's the female side of things, I was sexually abused by a lot of older women. The biggest regret I have pertaining to that, is just that i didn't tell anyone, because one teacher in particular was really brazen with her advances, she would hold me behind as a "troublemaker" even if I didn't initiate situations. I never understood why she did that until I was an adult. But during that time, she eventually made her fist advance, which was putting her hands in my pants. I guess I reacted a weird way, and she said, and these words are still suck in my mind, "you know you like it", I can still hear her voice when I type this. I was even physically small at the time, I was much bigger than her, but it's so weird to think back on how "disabled" I was in the moment, It was likely because when other women abused me, you just froze up and they did what they wanted. I only regret not telling because I know she and many others likely went on to do it to other boys. I was just fucking stupid at that time and didn't think anyone would believe me. I think they would have, I should have said something. I actually found some of the women, after school, through social media, never acted on it.


I gotta stop typing there, I'm actually in tears as I type this.

=====================


On the male side of things, most boys just hated me, luckily, I was never sexually abused by a man, that probably would have really fucked me, but the kids growing up did not like me, they pressed me 24/7, that really muted my feelings towards the world, I used to think everyone was a robot that simply shutdown at night, when I would go to sleep. I definitely planed on "ER", fortunately, I couldn't get ahold of any weapons, because that was what really prevented me. But you get the gist.

Yeah, my looks have never won me anything but attention here and there, that's it. Everything else just ruined me, for now.

Nobody cares faggot

 

[batteryfresh]

does it make you feel undeserving? like of imposter syndrome?

Sus

 

[Interested]

Im 20 yrs old

Damn I fell for it smh

Should've known, considering your avi

 

[Crusile]

Damn I fell for it smh

Should've known, considering your avi

Keep coping like the pope, ask one of my long time associates like @_MVP_ if I'm a "troll". I'm not

 

[Crusile]

Good thread, friends. Thanks for your responses, valuable insights, and theories. One day at a time