Great bimax result from r/JawSurgery

[gasping]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

 

[gasping]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

 

[Jgns]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

yeah he looks like a dog even tho it kinda seems to match his maxilla idk

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

yeah he looks like a dog even tho it kinda seems to match his maxilla idk

 

[nishka]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

his nose was upturned already and occlusion was good he should have just gotten a genio

 

[zaebalsya]

Yea first one mogs hard

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

yea

 

[geenk worg]

his nose was upturned already and occlusion was good he should have just gotten a genio

He was class ii you could also see it very clearly on his face.

 

[81xa]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

exceptional first result
second guy looks like the cart titan

 

[lurking truecel]

Both fucked up, first guys face looks like a dog now. The second guy just fucked up even more. The first guy is also clear he used some photoshop to fine tune the edges because of the pixelation

 

[Reformed]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

his haircut is a failo. but yeah its a lil off

 

[abdullah23k]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

Second guy looked like a dog

 

[BM7]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

Nope! The surgery was planned with him in his bad posture. It shouldave been planed with the frankfurt plane parallel to the ground/horizon. He still with his bad neck posture... shit shit shit

 

[BM7]

First one: nice posture, nice results
Sec one: bad neck posture, unnatural results by the lack of knowlegde from the surgeon(or he just dont care)

 

[Prøphet]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

In another life…

 

[Prøphet]

Nope! The surgery was planned with him in his bad posture. It shouldave been planed with the frankfurt plane parallel to the ground/horizon. He still with his bad neck posture... shit shit shit

If he had a brow ridge

 

[carti lover]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

2nd guy looks so off

 

[Animepilled]

Mogger forward growth

 

[Animepilled]

2nd guys maxila was already far forward and they moved it even more

 

[Lookologist003]

The second guy looks Chad. Dunno what all this noise is about.

 

[BM7]

If he had a brow ridge

View attachment 5001505

STill bad posture.

 

[ascension to heaven]

 

[molecule06an]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

This isn’t a skull/forehead deficiency. The issue is proportional imbalance — the lower third was advanced more than the midface, creating a mismatch. On top of that, hair volume, head posture, and nose prominence post-op exaggerate the effect. It’s a planning/balance issue, not a cranial deficiency.

 

[savemebimax]

At the end of the day, you can laugh at the dogmaxx but objectively it is an improvement of what he had, yeah he might be a canine now but people like dogs better than recessed freaks.

 

[zemult]

At the end of the day, you can laugh at the dogmaxx but objectively it is an improvement of what he had, yeah he might be a canine now but people like dogs better than recessed freaks.

People don't like either. Invisible and invisible, repulsed by women.

 

[gasping]

At the end of the day, you can laugh at the dogmaxx but objectively it is an improvement of what he had, yeah he might be a canine now but people like dogs better than recessed freaks.

I think he could look even better if he got brow ridge implant

 

[lurking truecel]

People don't like either. Invisible and invisible, repulsed by women.

women want a good front, side is cope

 

[gasping]

women want a good front, side is cope

How much is front changing with ccw bimax no implants. For someone who has mild recession, slightly downgrown, slight narrow chin.

 

[lurking truecel]

How much is front changing with ccw bimax no implants. For someone who has mild recession, slightly downgrown, slight narrow chin.

almost zero, sometimes worse if you dont have any vertical or bad recession

 

[gasping]

almost zero, sometimes worse if you dont have any vertical or bad recession

Worse…? Son don’t say this to me. I have mild airway issue and shitty side profile but if it messes with my front that would suck balls. I thought that chin/jaw would look tiny bit more structured and wide and midface tiny bit shorter

 

[lurking truecel]

Worse…? Son don’t say this to me. I have mild airway issue and shitty side profile but if it messes with my front that would suck balls. I thought that chin/jaw would look tiny bit more structured and wide and midface tiny bit shorter

I mean it does make the nose worse from the front almost everytime and it can also move the cheek fat pads lower

 

[zemult]

women want a good front, side is cope

Kinda. If you have a good front but turns out your jaw is recessed and you have a beak nose, then your frontal doesn't matter

But if you have a mtn front and chad side, you don't get any extra points from it really

 

[compost_]

I think the first guy is a great possible example of @yussimania theory about 'chimp lip' as he talked about in his post "autisitic ramblings part 3"

To me he looks to have been overadvanced, particularly in his upper jaw for this point, and dogmaxed like stated by @lurking truecel :

first guys face looks like a dog now

I think his theory abt 'chimp lip' in relation to overadvancement and in tandem with the angle of the jaws possibly being altered w either cw or ccw rotation holds a good weight and seems makes sense to me

You can see the curve of his philtrum get absolutely nuked with the excess of advancement while i dont think there was any ccw rotation, it looks to me that he is just simply tilting his head up slightly more, but if there is ccw and I am wrong i believe it would only prove his theory to be more correct

I think it would be interesting to see which plays a bigger role in the 'chimp lip' either the advancement or rotation which we could possibly see in a case similar to this if they were to overadvance but then rotate cw becuase i would assume that the cw rotation would potentially counteract some of the effects of the 'chimp lip' from an overadvancement, having the opposite effect of ccw, and help retain atleast some of that philtrum curve instead of potentially worsening it

 

[gasping]

Kinda. If you have a good front but turns out your jaw is recessed and you have a beak nose, then your frontal doesn't matter

But if you have a mtn front and chad side, you don't get any extra points from it really

Argument that people IRL don’t solely look at your front profile. 3 quarter, front, side come together

 

[zemult]

Argument that people IRL don’t solely look at your front profile. 3 quarter, front, side come together

Yes but they primarily judge the front. If you have a good looking side it'll only do so much. Below avg side will falio you though

 

[gasping]

Yes but they primarily judge the front. If you have a good looking side it'll only do so much. Below avg side will falio you though

With a trimax Genio could widen my chin though, improving front

 

[lurking truecel]

Kinda. If you have a good front but turns out your jaw is recessed and you have a beak nose, then your frontal doesn't matter

But if you have a mtn front and chad side, you don't get any extra points from it really

Good front amd bad side doesnt really matter at all, many have it

 

[Lefor3Laser]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

Both overadvanced, second one already had his maxilla way developed, his jaw was reccesed.

Both outcomes are kinda botched, but first one is much better than the second.

 

[jakimeister]

the first pic is like 4 weeks post op, he still has 40-50% of the swelling to subside. doesnt event make sense to rate it at this point.

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

What made the nose bump go away?

 

[Animepilled]

How much is front changing with ccw bimax no implants. For someone who has mild recession, slightly downgrown, slight narrow chin.

you need vertical deficiency to ascend with bimax. Just being recessed doesn't matter

 

[0ogrpostcel]

Maybe it’s the brow ridge of the second guy that looks off to me?

His nose bridge is very long

yeah he looks like a dog even tho it kinda seems to match his maxilla idk

His nose bridge is why it looks like a dog

 

[0ogrpostcel]

What made the nose bump go away?

From what I noticed from other cases, people with a well supported maxilla have straighter and more upturned noses

 

[kisslessvirgin]

Good front amd bad side doesnt really matter at all, many have it

exactly, I went outside after over a week today, and saw people in the wild

there were plenty of decent looking people with weak profiles

its ALL FRONT

 

[0ogrpostcel]

exactly, I went outside after over a week today, and saw people in the wild

there were plenty of decent looking people with weak profiles

its ALL FRONT

Although front is way more important, its just such a big insecurity to many

 

[Genio]

His movements were

UJ-> Advanced 5,5mm, descended 4mm LJ->
Advanced 11mm Genio-> Advanced 2mm, descended 3mm
No significative rotation.

I also found one that looks over advanced

How does he have a dorsal hump with severe Maxillary Projection???

Anyways, a Lefort I Setback is needed for the second dude, look's way too over-advanced.