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@claygo funny high iq larp you posted

Hello, uh, I’ll be honest: I just joined this forum. I know a lot about pharma, so I figured I’d spoon feed y’all from now on, I guess...
Big ego for just joining
Lets see what kind of info he's gonna "spoonfeed" us
Disclaimer: this shit is probably water for high iq people(i doubt there are any on this forum though lmao), but for the average pharma dude, it isn’t.
Okay backing down a little bit
Perhaps a humble genius?
So, you may have seen some erdafitinib edits on TikTok showing studies where erdafitinib delays growth plate closure and also widens them.
So the pharma retards think this is from inhibition of fgfr3, but it’s not.
Bold claim when literally all of literature supports that it is
You will only see this effect on erda and not other "better" fgfr inhibitors such as tyra. Why?
I would guess because the potency with tyra is worse lol. Others like infig also have metabolism issues that Erda doesnt have.
Well, this growth plate effect of erda comes from potent inhibition of fgfr1-2
saying this as if fgfr3 inhibition isnt potent
which alters the FGFR1/2–MAPK/ERK signaling axis in hypertrophic chondrocytes, increasing the COL10A1 (type X collagen)-positive hypertrophic zone and disrupting the normal transition from proliferating → hypertrophic chondrocytes → endochondral ossification, thereby expanding/widening the growth plate
(holy spoon feed)
FGFR1 signalling is indeed thought of to be growth-inhibiting, however loss of function shows 0 increase in adult height (so it's inhibition is fairly useless) and only a transient increase in hypertrophic zone height, not even anything permanent lol. FGFR2 signalling however is seen to be growth-promoting and it's msc inactivation actually led to dwarfism [PMC4133284, PMC8965158], its shown in people with both fgfr2 gain or loss of function mutations that they end up with significantly decreased adult heights, while we see a clear differentiation between height results with fgfr3 overexpression and deletion. That does imply that it is fgfr3 inhibition which leads to the actual height increases while fgfr2 must be balanced out.

Regarding the other claim that type x collagen somehow noticeably influences the chondrocyte differentiation, theres a reason why literally 0 evidence is given. Type x collagen is primarily a marker of hypertrophy and is exclusively secreted in chondrocytes that have entered senescence. The deletion of Col10a1 proved that type x collagen is completely dispensable for differentiation but also that absence of the former faciliates the latter. Showing that the absence of type x collagen increases chondrocyte differentiation into hypertrophy, it's presence leads to a longer stay in a proliferative phase. Both FGFR1 and FGFR2 primarily cause collagen x downregulation by affecting the responsible transcription factors, this would again faciliate differentiation and thus be counterproductive. FGFR3 Inhibition however consistently upregulates it which results in greater proliferation before hypertrophy. Whether this has any significant effects is very questionable and would presume that the secretion has noticeable effects extracellularly, I would argue most of the matters have already been decided by pathways upstream. Observations like this could also be reverse causality.
You also didnt really give any specification or go into detail on how this would work? I would kind of expect that when putting forth such a ground breaking theory.

Conclusion​

Erda is probably the highest ROI height compound in com because it’s cheap as fuck, has lots of studies, and yeah lmao
what the fuck is this reasoning LOL
And how does "erda doesnt work as you think it does" conclude in "erda has more roi than all other compounds"
Note: If I get a lot of reps on this post, I’ll start posting high effort shit with good formatting and more information/studies included, etc.
Please dont:feelsmega:
(Trust me, I know stuff you guys have never heard of.)
Because you made it all up?:lul::lul:
 
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Niggas making whole ass threads over:
1787062065148

Fucking waste of time :ICANT:

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Because hes a retard with the biggest ego ever
Cant let him post more of these "heh im gonna spoon feed you iqlets" threads:feelsmega:
Do you actually think he will understand what you are saying and reflect on his own mistakes? Do you think his ego will get hurt?

Spoiler alert: It won't.

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HOW ERDA DELAYS GROWTH PLATE CLOSURE+WIDENS IT + HOW ITS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ROI HEIGHT COMPOUNDS [HIGH IQ]​


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HOW ERDA DELAYS GROWTH PLATE CLOSURE+WIDENS IT + HOW ITS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ROI HEIGHT COMPOUNDS [HIGH IQ]​


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@claygo funny high iq larp you posted


Big ego for just joining
Lets see what kind of info he's gonna "spoonfeed" us

Okay backing down a little bit
Perhaps a humble genius?

Bold claim when literally all of literature supports that it is

I would guess because the potency with tyra is worse lol. Others like infig also have metabolism issues that Erda doesnt have.

saying this as if fgfr3 inhibition isnt potent

FGFR1 signalling is indeed thought of to be growth-inhibiting, however loss of function shows 0 increase in adult height (so it's inhibition is fairly useless) and only a transient increase in hypertrophic zone height, not even anything permanent lol. FGFR2 signalling however is seen to be growth-promoting and it's msc inactivation actually led to dwarfism [PMC4133284, PMC8965158], its shown in people with both fgfr2 gain or loss of function mutations that they end up with significantly decreased adult heights, while we see a clear differentiation between height results with fgfr3 overexpression and deletion. That does imply that it is fgfr3 inhibition which leads to the actual height increases while fgfr2 must be balanced out.

Regarding the other claim that type x collagen somehow noticeably influences the chondrocyte differentiation, theres a reason why literally 0 evidence is given. Type x collagen is primarily a marker of hypertrophy and is exclusively secreted in chondrocytes that have entered senescence. The deletion of Col10a1 proved that type x collagen is completely dispensable for differentiation but also that absence of the former faciliates the latter. Showing that the absence of type x collagen increases chondrocyte differentiation into hypertrophy, it's presence leads to a longer stay in a proliferative phase. Both FGFR1 and FGFR2 primarily cause collagen x downregulation by affecting the responsible transcription factors, this would again faciliate differentiation and thus be counterproductive. FGFR3 Inhibition however consistently upregulates it which results in greater proliferation before hypertrophy. Whether this has any significant effects is very questionable and would presume that the secretion has noticeable effects extracellularly, I would argue most of the matters have already been decided by pathways upstream. Observations like this could also be reverse causality.
You also didnt really give any specification or go into detail on how this would work? I would kind of expect that when putting forth such a ground breaking theory.

what the fuck is this reasoning LOL
And how does "erda doesnt work as you think it does" conclude in "erda has more roi than all other compounds"

Please dont:feelsmega:

Because you made it all up?:lul::lul:
What’s missing from this entire discussion is evidentiary calibration: the observed phenotype has considerably stronger support than any particular downstream mechanistic model. Once you separate empirical observation from mechanistic inference, most of the supposed certainty in this argument disappears
 
i have no knowledge on pharma but you have a better ptr and join date so i trust you
 
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What’s missing from this entire discussion is evidentiary calibration: the observed phenotype has considerably stronger support than any particular downstream mechanistic model. Once you separate empirical observation from mechanistic inference, most of the supposed certainty in this argument disappears
"chat gpt generate me a text to vaguepost and be a part of the cool guys"
 
"chat gpt generate me a text to vaguepost and be a part of the cool guys"
Imagine needing to attribute every coherent post to ai because accepting that another person can articulate themselves better than you is apparently too uncomfortable
 
OP is a shitskin projecting heavily and has ZERO understanding of any concepts whatsoever
 
i'm honored that he is spoonfeeding us his temu knowledge rather than selling a course
 
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Straight killed him
 
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Imagine needing to attribute every coherent post to ai because accepting that another person can articulate themselves better than you is apparently too uncomfortable
articulated yourself so well that you didnt even clarify what you were referring to:lul:
Vagueposting master
Just gtfo wannabe
 
articulated yourself so well that you didnt even clarify what you were referring to:lul:
Vagueposting master
Just gtfo wannabe
You seem pretty confident calling it “vagueposting” for someone who still hasn’t actually pointed out what I said that was supposedly unclear. If you think my argument is incoherent, then explain exactly what part doesn’t make sense instead of just insulting me.Otherwise, you’re not really dismantling anything I said you’re just avoiding the argument because you don’t have an actual response to it.
 
You seem pretty confident calling it “vagueposting” for someone who still hasn’t actually pointed out what I said that was supposedly unclear.
"The observed phenotype"??
Seperate which "empirical observation" from which "mechanistic influence" exactly?
And what argument exactly?
You referred to half a dozen things undefined it just doesnt make any sense:forcedsmile:
 

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