
SlayerJonas
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Steroids/peptides don't influence height/facial bones significantly/at all
The meta-analysis Finkelstein et al. (2002) puts the final nail in the coffin
It's about GH treatment for growth velocity and adult height in children
Inclusion criteria for studies are:
- Idiopathic short stature (turbo manlet for reason 404) <10th percentile height
- Normal GH levels
- No other illnesses
-> Mostly applicable study design
-> In total data of 1089 patients
GH was used at 0.14 to 0.40 mg/kg per week for a minimum of 6 months:
- Daily dose for a 30kg child: 1.8-5.1IU
-> Translated dose for a 70kg adolescent: 4.2-12IU ed
Growth velocity was increased for the GH group by 1. year: 2.86 ± 0.37 cm/y, 2. year: 2.36 ± 0.36 cm/y > control group
GH group increased adult height by 5-6cm > control group
What this mean nigga?
- Increasing adult height as a ~7yo turbo manlet requires megadoses of GH for years
-> You won't grow a molecule with your "stack"
Additional suifuel:
- Generic GH (~$1-1.5/IU) > UGL GH (~$0.3-0.5/IU) in terms of effectivity due to quality (debatable)
-> Even higher dosages above 12IU required, meaning even higher costs
The truth: Height is determined by ~12000 genes.
The meta-analysis Finkelstein et al. (2002) puts the final nail in the coffin
It's about GH treatment for growth velocity and adult height in children
Inclusion criteria for studies are:
- Idiopathic short stature (turbo manlet for reason 404) <10th percentile height
- Normal GH levels
- No other illnesses
-> Mostly applicable study design
-> In total data of 1089 patients
GH was used at 0.14 to 0.40 mg/kg per week for a minimum of 6 months:
- Daily dose for a 30kg child: 1.8-5.1IU
-> Translated dose for a 70kg adolescent: 4.2-12IU ed
Growth velocity was increased for the GH group by 1. year: 2.86 ± 0.37 cm/y, 2. year: 2.36 ± 0.36 cm/y > control group
GH group increased adult height by 5-6cm > control group

What this mean nigga?

- Increasing adult height as a ~7yo turbo manlet requires megadoses of GH for years
-> You won't grow a molecule with your "stack"
Additional suifuel:
- Generic GH (~$1-1.5/IU) > UGL GH (~$0.3-0.5/IU) in terms of effectivity due to quality (debatable)
-> Even higher dosages above 12IU required, meaning even higher costs
The truth: Height is determined by ~12000 genes.
Because estradiol is important for a ton of tissues/organs. Would you try your luck to become 2-3cm taller in exchange for:
- Stunted brain development, neurotoxicity
- Spinal issues, problems with bones in general
- Nuked lipid profile
- Raped liver and kidneys
- Worse muscle hypertrophy
- Trash skin quality, worse with exemestane
- Hair loss, even worse with exemestane
- Mental problems
This means keeping E2 on the higher range comes with much better benefits.
- Stunted brain development, neurotoxicity
- Spinal issues, problems with bones in general
- Nuked lipid profile
- Raped liver and kidneys
- Worse muscle hypertrophy
- Trash skin quality, worse with exemestane
- Hair loss, even worse with exemestane
- Mental problems
This means keeping E2 on the higher range comes with much better benefits.
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