growth plates still open at 20?

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Because of my recent improvements in palatal width via-thumbpulling after a month of trying it, this confirms my sutures aren’t totally fused.

Because of this reason (going from a 35 mm wide palate to a 38 mm one in a month without any devices at 20 (and still widening)), my mother, who is a doctor, has suggested my growth plates may be still open or partially open to a certain degree.

Apparently all of my maternal cousins kept growing past 20, and I’m genetically very similar to this side of the family, also, I’m a late bloomer, said by me and both my parents (both are doctors), so this just adds up to the possibility I might grow some inches.

For all of you afraid of acne and thinking about taking Accutane, I did at 15, did wonders for me (I had the worst acne I had ever seen out of every person I know), but probably (it’s my own theory) messed up my total and free T levels by skyrocketing my SHBG, just in the middle of my development. So be careful with that, my advice is to use it only if your skin is REALLY fucked up if you are in your teens, it could be worth to wait some years for that.

I’m getting X-rays in the following weeks to check bone age and growth plates, wish me luck, if they are open I’m 100% taking MK677.

I will definitely update.
 
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my mother, who is a doctor, has suggested my growth plates may be still open or partially open to a certain degree.
the chances of them being open are slim to zero
if they are open I’m 100% taking MK677.
and even if they were open, taking mk677 wouldnt do fucking ANYTHING to your height lmfao
 
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I have a genuine question, what tools did you use to measure palatal width?
to check my initial width i used an mri i got done like 10 months ago, but because i can’t track my progress by getting an mri every 3 months, i bought some wax, bite into it hard and evenly and measured with a measuring tape, i mentioned this on a previous thread i made, i definitely see some improvements from this, even one of my best friends has said i look kinda more defined
 
Because of my recent improvements in palatal width via-thumbpulling after a month of trying it, this confirms my sutures aren’t totally fused.

Because of this reason (going from a 35 mm wide palate to a 38 mm one in a month without any devices at 20 (and still widening)), my mother, who is a doctor, has suggested my growth plates may be still open or partially open to a certain degree.

Apparently all of my maternal cousins kept growing past 20, and I’m genetically very similar to this side of the family, also, I’m a late bloomer, said by me and both my parents (both are doctors), so this just adds up to the possibility I might grow some inches.

For all of you afraid of acne and thinking about taking Accutane, I did at 15, did wonders for me (I had the worst acne I had ever seen out of every person I know), but probably (it’s my own theory) messed up my total and free T levels by skyrocketing my SHBG, just in the middle of my development. So be careful with that, my advice is to use it only if your skin is REALLY fucked up if you are in your teens, it could be worth to wait some years for that.

I’m getting X-rays in the following weeks to check bone age and growth plates, wish me luck, if they are open I’m 100% taking MK677.

I will definitely update.
Growth plates and sutures of cranium are not the same thing
 
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the chances of them being open are slim to zero

and even if they were open, taking mk677 wouldnt do fucking ANYTHING to your height lmfao
depends entirely on your genetics, im not coping but rather analyzing both my own developmental history and mi family’s

btw i got told this by two professionals so yeah no shit asking me who im gonna trust

mk677 stimulates hgh production, since i cant (and wouldnt ffs) buy and inject hgh, i might as well try and boost it somehow “naturally” if the window for development is still open
 
mk677 stimulates hgh production
even if youd do multiple "cycles" (can barely be counted as a cycle) you'd grow like 1-2cm at most, literally no point in taking it considering the side effects of an increased apetite, nausea if you haven't eaten and it messing up your insulin levels completely

you're gonna be paying 100-200$ for a SLIM (very slim) chance at growing a centimetre


btw i got told this by two professionals so yeah no shit asking me who im gonna trust
the professionals would shit themselves if you told them that 14-15 year olds are getting on hgh to grow taller, even though its a really good idea
 
even if youd do multiple "cycles" (can barely be counted as a cycle) you'd grow like 1-2cm at most, literally no point in taking it considering the side effects of an increased apetite, nausea if you haven't eaten and it messing up your insulin levels completely

you're gonna be paying 100-200$ for a SLIM (very slim) chance at growing a centimetre



the professionals would shit themselves if you told them that 14-15 year olds are getting on hgh to grow taller, even though its a really good idea
they wouldnt be cycles so to say, ive seen some 10 mg mk677 pills that apparently are pretty good, so id go with one a day or so if thats the case, they arent super cheap but they arent expensive either

idk but its all pretty weird, since i already said all my cousins grew past 20 like 2 cms or so naturally, i just think its worth giving this a try if i still got the door open

talking about the last thing you said, of course, you are very right, doctors focus on health, not optimization or potential of anything, if my plates are open im not gonna tell them about mk678, im not dumb jfl
 
Height? Why mk-677 jfl dont take sarms take HGH if they are open
 
Heigth? Why mk-677 jfl dont take sarms take HGH if they are open
hgh is expensive as fuck (because in no way they would give it to me through public health since im not a midget) and hard to find here in spain as far as i know, although i think i havent done enough research on this yet
 
hgh is expensive as fuck (because in no way they would give it to me through public health since im not a midget) and hard to find here in spain as far as i know, although i think i havent done enough research on this yet
I know, but MK-677 does nothing. So i suggest you to take HGH and test (AI too)
 
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they wouldnt be cycles so to say, ive seen some 10 mg mk677 pills that apparently are pretty good, so id go with one a day or so if thats the case, they arent super cheap but they arent expensive either

idk but its all pretty weird, since i already said all my cousins grew past 20 like 2 cms or so naturally, i just think its worth giving this a try if i still got the door open

talking about the last thing you said, of course, you are very right, doctors focus on health, not optimization or potential of anything, if my plates are open im not gonna tell them about mk678, im not dumb jfl
just take hgh my nigga, and 10mg a day wont be enough if you want to have noticable growth

literally what is the point in spending money on a retard supplement (not gonna call it anything but that, mk is garbage) to grow 2cm
 
I know, but MK-677 does nothing. So i suggest you to take HGH and test (AI too)
im a bit skeptical about roiding, but i would look it up just in case, although they are very hard to find here still
 
just take hgh my nigga, and 10mg a day wont be enough if you want to have noticable growth

literally what is the point in spending money on a retard supplement (not gonna call it anything but that, mk is garbage) to grow 2cm
as i said to another guy, the problem with hgh is that its very expensive and hard to get here in my country, but i might have to research more about this if i find out my plates are open, not that im insecure about my height, but a couple inches more are always better
 
depends entirely on your genetics, im not coping but rather analyzing both my own developmental history and mi family’s

btw i got told this by two professionals so yeah no shit asking me who im gonna trust

mk677 stimulates hgh production, since i cant (and wouldnt ffs) buy and inject hgh, i might as well try and boost it somehow “naturally” if the window for development is still open
Unless you're a total outlier, you're not growing at 20, lmao. Just imagine believing craniofacial sutures have anything to do with your growth plates.
As an adult, the only thing you might get is some appositional growth after long-term use, and that comes with a bunch of risk factors.
 
Because of my recent improvements in palatal width via-thumbpulling after a month of trying it, this confirms my sutures aren’t totally fused.

Because of this reason (going from a 35 mm wide palate to a 38 mm one in a month without any devices at 20 (and still widening)), my mother, who is a doctor, has suggested my growth plates may be still open or partially open to a certain degree.

Apparently all of my maternal cousins kept growing past 20, and I’m genetically very similar to this side of the family, also, I’m a late bloomer, said by me and both my parents (both are doctors), so this just adds up to the possibility I might grow some inches.

For all of you afraid of acne and thinking about taking Accutane, I did at 15, did wonders for me (I had the worst acne I had ever seen out of every person I know), but probably (it’s my own theory) messed up my total and free T levels by skyrocketing my SHBG, just in the middle of my development. So be careful with that, my advice is to use it only if your skin is REALLY fucked up if you are in your teens, it could be worth to wait some years for that.

I’m getting X-rays in the following weeks to check bone age and growth plates, wish me luck, if they are open I’m 100% taking MK677.

I will definitely update.
What does your mum even say about your plan? Even if you're a late bloomer, you'd probably need insanely high doses of HGH to see any noticeable growth- like over 10 IU daily and that's far from healthy. Gaining more than 1-2 cm at that stage is highly unlikely anyway.
 
Unless you're a total outlier, you're not growing at 20, lmao. Just imagine believing craniofacial sutures have anything to do with your growth plates.
As an adult, the only thing you might get is some appositional growth after long-term use, and that comes with a bunch of risk factors.
seems everyone in my family is a total outlier jfl, the one believing craniofacial sutures have something to do about my plates got two degrees both in medicine and nursery, but yeah maybe the incels telling me the opposite thing got a better clue about biomechanics
 
What does your mum even say about your plan? Even if you're a late bloomer, you'd probably need insanely high doses of HGH to see any noticeable growth- like over 10 IU daily and that's far from healthy. Gaining more than 1-2 cm at that stage is highly unlikely anyway.
this reminds me when i came back from the ortho a month ago, saying that my midpalatal suture was fused for sure (without checking shit) and even if i got an expander for like a year i wouldnt gain nothing more than 3 or so extra mms, a month later i gained the same amount he mentioned by sticking my thumbs in my mouth lmfao
 
seems everyone in my family is a total outlier jfl, the one believing craniofacial sutures have something to do about my plates got two degrees both in medicine and nursery, but yeah maybe the incels telling me the opposite thing got a better clue about biomechanics
Then, let her explain how they are related in the way you claim here? Skull sutures being partially open doesn’t mean the long bones are still growing.

From what I understand, Growth plates and skull sutures ossify in different ways, so they don’t close at the same time.
I’m open to be corrected, though, if your moms explanation can shed more light on this.
 
Then, let her explain how they are related in the way you claim here? Skull sutures being partially open doesn’t mean the long bones are still growing.

From what I understand, Growth plates and skull sutures ossify in different ways, so they don’t close at the same time.
I’m open to be corrected, though, if your moms explanation can shed more light on this.
i would have to ask her concretely, but if i had to take a guess it would be the following: gaining 3 extra mms in palatal width with no expanders, in one month and at 20 years old means one thing for sure, my sutures arent fused yet, which at 20 in and of itself its pretty rare (but makes sense since im a late bloomer + my familys history of late development), that would therefore mean as well that my bone age isnt equal to my chronological age, meaning its actually younger, which can actually mean that there is the possibility (since my bone structure is a couple years behind) that my growth plates are still open or partially open, since roughly sutures are to the skull what plates are to the arms and legs (if one of the two, i would guess the second in the best of cases myself)

like this shit is hard to guess unless you get an x-ray like im gonna do, its all theory, well calculated but somewhat wise guesses, it also depends widely on your genetics alone, no persons body is the same to anothers

the one thing my mother said for sure was that im a hyperresponder to stimuli, like at the very least top 1% at my age, when i told her everything she didnt believe at first until i proved it
 
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