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Guide to understanding women better: how your interpersonal relationships influence attraction
by 14vic
Welcome to my thread, where I will explain how our communication, both verbal and non-verbal, influences women's thinking through studies I have conducted in the schools of classical conditioning, by Ivan Pavlov, the school of psychoanalysis of Sigmund Freud and finally including a bonus about how period affects the mood on women. Without further delay, let's begin!
Classical conditioning.
This concept refers to a process in which a stimulus (initially neutral) comes to provoke a conditioned response to the subject by associating it with a natural response. Here is an example that the psychologist Pavlov made.
Classical Conditioning - Ivan Pavlov
How can this concept be applied to your interpersonal relationships with women?
1. Disinterest and rejection
When a woman can perceive that a man rejects her, given the case of a conversation on the phone or in person, (taking a long time to respond, ignoring her) = negative stimulus for the woman, but then the man shows interest and affection = (positive stimulus) it can make the woman feel more inhibited and attracted to him, due to the uncertainty that this generates and the halting validation received in return.
2. Status and Lifestyle
If you manage to generate money, a good reputation and success, this transmits a positive stimulus to the woman, since most of the images that come to mind of a lifestyle with status (luxury, money, exclusivity) are intrinsically related to a life of freedom and security, which generates attention and admiration, which leads the woman to think that men who possess these qualities are more valuable than others, even if these people we are talking about do not have any genuine relationship with her, they have a superior image compared to men who do not possess these qualities (status and lifestyle)
3. Of course, physical attractiveness.
Most women who have had an experience with an attractive man, tend to associate their experience with a positive stimulus, due to the pleasure received by them or the social validation of being with an attractive man. When these behaviors are repeated, this leads the woman to relate to more attractive men since the positive moments that have been granted by this bond are reinforced, even if the attractive man is not known. This leads us to the conclusion that attractiveness is usually the first impression of a woman, and all of this is supported by other socioeconomic factors, for example, that in movies or series there are always men with good physical appearance, apart from dimorphism.
4. Social proof and validation.
When a man sees himself surrounded by women, or is in a relationship, the woman perceives the man as a social subject accepted by the group (females), which leads her to associate a positive stimulus since social approval has already been acquired by other women in her group, perceiving him as more attractive simply because other women validate him. This can be related to the theory that women prefer men with social or sexual success, since “winners keep winning.”
Having finished with the school of classical conditioning, we will move on to the school of psychoanalysis where we will focus on the theses theories developed by Sigmund Freud, such as the systems as unknown as the unconscious.
Psychoanalysis
Since it is a difficult concept to elaborate, here is an image where you can understand the concept of conscious and unconscious and how it relates to the human mind:
According to Freud, our mind is 30 percent conscious, that is, self-perceived knowledge, and the other 70 percent is unconscious, that is, irrational desires, primitivism and unknown reasons why your brain works this way. Between the unconscious and the subconscious there is a layer called “preconscious,” which can be accessed through trance or spiritual states, such as dreams while sleeping.
How does this relate to women?
According to this theory, human beings have 3 stages:
-Him: more related to the unconscious, it represents the sexual and basic impulses by which our instinct moves, and operates through pleasure, seeking the satisfaction of these needs.
-I: it is the scale that tries to measure the impulses between the “Id” and the reality we live. It operates according to reality, trying to fill the principles of the Id with ethical and socially accepted principles.
-Superego: acts as a moral conscience, putting limits on the actions of the Ego through the education we have received in our first years of life or the “modus vivendi” implemented by society today.
In a blackpill perspective this could act in this way:
- A man may have aspirations (Him) to be dominant, robust and a slayer with the women around him, but his reality (Ego) and social expectations (superego) are at odds since in real life it is the opposite. This can lead to frustration and feeling depressed with his reality, since there is a conflict between the id and the ego, which can lead him in more extreme cases, to revenge with the superego by committing murder, as for example in the case of Elliot Rodger.
Now, having understood these concepts, I will proceed to explain the methods by which you can understand a woman from this perspective.
1. Superego and its ego related to a “modus vivendi”
An effective method to give a better impression and be more sociable with women is to have a pre-established pattern of ways of being depending on where you live, in order to be established to a lifestyle similar to that of the group. This includes following trends, dressing in a socially accepted way, and behaving in a way that is perceived as social with the place where you live. This last part is very important since the modus vivendi in India is not the same as in Norway, for example.
2. Show a primary sexual attitude
(This method has to be accompanied by good physical attractiveness)
When we talk about the “Him”, we refer to the most primary sexual desires and there are some women where in the balance of self/it they tend to choose the second option more. When you are talking to a woman, tend to show a direct and unreserved sexual attitude, for example offering sex and showing a rejection of pre-established social norms, such as the prohibition of touching a woman by her intimate parts. This is related to a great masculine image where the man by breaking the rules looks more attractive and this turns on the basic instinct in women, since an exacerbated expression of sexual desires generates a connection with the other person.
3. Gender Roles
This method is based on assuming the traditional pre-established gender roles. For example, a man always has the image of being strong, protective, provider. If you are trying to flirt with a girl and you do not fulfill these pre-established values, this can lead to a great lack of interest on her part, since she will see this as a barrier, since primarily, the masculine being tends to have these qualities. You have to be like a lion defending your territory when other men appear when you are with a woman.
Lions Fighting over Female
Bonus: How the menstruation cycle affects the sexual impact of a woman
In the follicular phase, the first part of the cycle leading up to ovulation, estrogen and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) begins to rise. FSH is secreted by the pituitary gland to prepare the ovaries to release an egg during ovulation. (first 5-6 days after period)
In the late follicular phase, energy levels and sexual desire increases for many—especially as you get closer to ovulation. It isn’t that you just may feel more mentally into the idea of sex, but physically you’re also ready as vaginal lubrication, engorged vaginal tissue, and heightened sensitivity all increase thanks to estrogen.(6-12 days)
Ovulation is when a surge of estrogen triggers the secretion of luteinizing hormone (LH) to signal the release of an egg from your ovaries. (12-18 days)
As an evolutionary adaptation, this shorter five to six-day ovulatory phase coincides with an increased drive for sex for women. The sex hormones secreted during this time increases libido and even the ability to orgasm for women. There’s even been research behind this, with large studies showing that masturbation also peaks mid cycle.
I suggest using the techniques i mentioted before on her ovulation cycle, (12-18 days after period) so she is more assertive to a man. You can guess easily when is a woman's period when you notice changes in her mood.
In short, the concepts of psychoanalysis offer deep insight into the dynamics of attraction, but from a blackpill perspective, they remind us that biological drives and social norms play a dominant role. Although different strategies may attempt to compensate or adapt to these forces, the reality is that some factors, such as physical attractiveness and status, remain determinants. It is important to be aware of these dynamics when navigating the world of relationships.
Thanks for reading, have a great day!
Tags: @Charisma @tombradylover @serialcoper @Elijah_leo @acv700 @RawMogger @zolrxx @Gaygymmaxx @greycel @N9wiff•˚₊‧⋆.
by 14vic
Welcome to my thread, where I will explain how our communication, both verbal and non-verbal, influences women's thinking through studies I have conducted in the schools of classical conditioning, by Ivan Pavlov, the school of psychoanalysis of Sigmund Freud and finally including a bonus about how period affects the mood on women. Without further delay, let's begin!
Classical conditioning.
This concept refers to a process in which a stimulus (initially neutral) comes to provoke a conditioned response to the subject by associating it with a natural response. Here is an example that the psychologist Pavlov made.
Classical Conditioning - Ivan Pavlov
How can this concept be applied to your interpersonal relationships with women?
1. Disinterest and rejection
When a woman can perceive that a man rejects her, given the case of a conversation on the phone or in person, (taking a long time to respond, ignoring her) = negative stimulus for the woman, but then the man shows interest and affection = (positive stimulus) it can make the woman feel more inhibited and attracted to him, due to the uncertainty that this generates and the halting validation received in return.
2. Status and Lifestyle
If you manage to generate money, a good reputation and success, this transmits a positive stimulus to the woman, since most of the images that come to mind of a lifestyle with status (luxury, money, exclusivity) are intrinsically related to a life of freedom and security, which generates attention and admiration, which leads the woman to think that men who possess these qualities are more valuable than others, even if these people we are talking about do not have any genuine relationship with her, they have a superior image compared to men who do not possess these qualities (status and lifestyle)
3. Of course, physical attractiveness.
Most women who have had an experience with an attractive man, tend to associate their experience with a positive stimulus, due to the pleasure received by them or the social validation of being with an attractive man. When these behaviors are repeated, this leads the woman to relate to more attractive men since the positive moments that have been granted by this bond are reinforced, even if the attractive man is not known. This leads us to the conclusion that attractiveness is usually the first impression of a woman, and all of this is supported by other socioeconomic factors, for example, that in movies or series there are always men with good physical appearance, apart from dimorphism.
4. Social proof and validation.
When a man sees himself surrounded by women, or is in a relationship, the woman perceives the man as a social subject accepted by the group (females), which leads her to associate a positive stimulus since social approval has already been acquired by other women in her group, perceiving him as more attractive simply because other women validate him. This can be related to the theory that women prefer men with social or sexual success, since “winners keep winning.”
Having finished with the school of classical conditioning, we will move on to the school of psychoanalysis where we will focus on the theses theories developed by Sigmund Freud, such as the systems as unknown as the unconscious.
Psychoanalysis
Since it is a difficult concept to elaborate, here is an image where you can understand the concept of conscious and unconscious and how it relates to the human mind:
According to Freud, our mind is 30 percent conscious, that is, self-perceived knowledge, and the other 70 percent is unconscious, that is, irrational desires, primitivism and unknown reasons why your brain works this way. Between the unconscious and the subconscious there is a layer called “preconscious,” which can be accessed through trance or spiritual states, such as dreams while sleeping.
How does this relate to women?
According to this theory, human beings have 3 stages:
-Him: more related to the unconscious, it represents the sexual and basic impulses by which our instinct moves, and operates through pleasure, seeking the satisfaction of these needs.
-I: it is the scale that tries to measure the impulses between the “Id” and the reality we live. It operates according to reality, trying to fill the principles of the Id with ethical and socially accepted principles.
-Superego: acts as a moral conscience, putting limits on the actions of the Ego through the education we have received in our first years of life or the “modus vivendi” implemented by society today.
In a blackpill perspective this could act in this way:
- A man may have aspirations (Him) to be dominant, robust and a slayer with the women around him, but his reality (Ego) and social expectations (superego) are at odds since in real life it is the opposite. This can lead to frustration and feeling depressed with his reality, since there is a conflict between the id and the ego, which can lead him in more extreme cases, to revenge with the superego by committing murder, as for example in the case of Elliot Rodger.
Now, having understood these concepts, I will proceed to explain the methods by which you can understand a woman from this perspective.
1. Superego and its ego related to a “modus vivendi”
An effective method to give a better impression and be more sociable with women is to have a pre-established pattern of ways of being depending on where you live, in order to be established to a lifestyle similar to that of the group. This includes following trends, dressing in a socially accepted way, and behaving in a way that is perceived as social with the place where you live. This last part is very important since the modus vivendi in India is not the same as in Norway, for example.
2. Show a primary sexual attitude
(This method has to be accompanied by good physical attractiveness)
When we talk about the “Him”, we refer to the most primary sexual desires and there are some women where in the balance of self/it they tend to choose the second option more. When you are talking to a woman, tend to show a direct and unreserved sexual attitude, for example offering sex and showing a rejection of pre-established social norms, such as the prohibition of touching a woman by her intimate parts. This is related to a great masculine image where the man by breaking the rules looks more attractive and this turns on the basic instinct in women, since an exacerbated expression of sexual desires generates a connection with the other person.
3. Gender Roles
This method is based on assuming the traditional pre-established gender roles. For example, a man always has the image of being strong, protective, provider. If you are trying to flirt with a girl and you do not fulfill these pre-established values, this can lead to a great lack of interest on her part, since she will see this as a barrier, since primarily, the masculine being tends to have these qualities. You have to be like a lion defending your territory when other men appear when you are with a woman.
Lions Fighting over Female
Bonus: How the menstruation cycle affects the sexual impact of a woman
In the follicular phase, the first part of the cycle leading up to ovulation, estrogen and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) begins to rise. FSH is secreted by the pituitary gland to prepare the ovaries to release an egg during ovulation. (first 5-6 days after period)
In the late follicular phase, energy levels and sexual desire increases for many—especially as you get closer to ovulation. It isn’t that you just may feel more mentally into the idea of sex, but physically you’re also ready as vaginal lubrication, engorged vaginal tissue, and heightened sensitivity all increase thanks to estrogen.(6-12 days)
Ovulation is when a surge of estrogen triggers the secretion of luteinizing hormone (LH) to signal the release of an egg from your ovaries. (12-18 days)
As an evolutionary adaptation, this shorter five to six-day ovulatory phase coincides with an increased drive for sex for women. The sex hormones secreted during this time increases libido and even the ability to orgasm for women. There’s even been research behind this, with large studies showing that masturbation also peaks mid cycle.
I suggest using the techniques i mentioted before on her ovulation cycle, (12-18 days after period) so she is more assertive to a man. You can guess easily when is a woman's period when you notice changes in her mood.
In short, the concepts of psychoanalysis offer deep insight into the dynamics of attraction, but from a blackpill perspective, they remind us that biological drives and social norms play a dominant role. Although different strategies may attempt to compensate or adapt to these forces, the reality is that some factors, such as physical attractiveness and status, remain determinants. It is important to be aware of these dynamics when navigating the world of relationships.
Thanks for reading, have a great day!
Tags: @Charisma @tombradylover @serialcoper @Elijah_leo @acv700 @RawMogger @zolrxx @Gaygymmaxx @greycel @N9wiff•˚₊‧⋆.