gym doesnt do anything if ur not on roids

[isis_Bleach]

You only need to build a “capable” looking physique for female attraction

Roided physiques are peak male-gaze

yea but even what u mentioned, loooking “capable” requires roids if ur not built like that genetically already

 

[mulattocel]

yea but even what u mentioned, loooking “capable” requires roids if ur not built like that genetically already

Not at all this mentality is pure cope for niggas that don’t wanna work hard

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Also it looks so fake. I feel like the natural male body is already attractive as it is. The steriods induced body are overly big and bloated.

I have seen steriods used in real life and it doesn’t look human

What you achieve as natty after some years is already capping out SMV gains. At some point more roid muscles just make you look deformed. What matters most is SOME muscle mass + being lean more so than size. At best SOME roid muscle mass provides a tiny benefit if lean but that is it, at best, might not even matter. Muscles are mostly blue pill cope face/hair/skin/bones/height mog muscles somewhat extremely. Ugly roidcel will still be mogged in SMV by scrawny decent height prettyboy.

 

[isis_Bleach]

Not at all this mentality is pure cope for niggas that don’t wanna work hard

i did work hard and guess what notjing changed its all genetics if u dont have the genetics nothing will change. u can try to say i disnt do it right but ill habe an answer for anytjing you say.

 

[mulattocel]

i did work hard and guess what notjing changed its all genetics if u dont have the genetics nothing will change. u can try to say i disnt do it right but ill habe an answer for anytjing you say.

Well 6 months ain’t nearly enough time to see major aesthetic differences

 

[isis_Bleach]

Well 6 months ain’t nearly enough time to see major aesthetic differences

but i didnt even see minor differences in my strength let alone aesthetics. and every1 says u gain strength before u even look different.

 

[Oopity]

take it from me ive gone to the gym 6 months now and literally haven’t noticed a single change in my strength. I look exactly the same, all that happened is i can do like 5 more pushups than when i started and that happened right away when i started and hasn’t changed since. You literally need roids or else nothing happens. you wont even get stronger without roids youll just be lifting for no reason at all.

People just be saying shit. If you haven't got any newbie gains you're doing something wrong

 

[ꞨtüssyBoy]

nope i did everything right

What was ur routine, I need to see

 

[isis_Bleach]

What was ur routine, I need to see

its like this 4 days a week workout
every day will be either push or pull
i do increase the weight but the weight never gets easier so its kinda pointless.
beginning with cardio either rowing machine or treadmill
then 1 warmup set and 8 sets of every exercise
3-4 exercises per session
so for example it will be
8x8 overhead press
8x8 bench press
8x8 squats

or

8x8 cable rows
8xAMRAP pullups
8x8 face pulls
8x8 RDL

and the thing is i am sore after every workout. i literally gain 0 strength. all that has happened after 6 months is i have SLIGHTLY more work capacity. so i can do more sets and more cardio. thats the only difference. i look the same too.

 

[sonic55555]

I agree with that

i know alot of natties in my gym whom ive seen for more than 6 years there, and they all look worse than they started, more fat, less muscle

natty training is a giant psyop

 

[isis_Bleach]

I agree with that

i know alot of natties in my gym whom ive seen for more than 6 years there, and they all look worse than they started, more fat, less muscle

natty training is a giant psyop

literallyidk if those dudes were bulking but i dont even do that and still look worse than when i started.

 

[sonic55555]

literallyidk if those dudes were bulking but i dont even do that and still look worse than when i started.

yeah natty training is just a joke tbh

Theres nothing worse than getting a sick pump in the gym week in and week out but never actually gaining any muscle. Natty training is a sick joke, its like masochism, its self flagellation

 

[max010]

take it from me ive gone to the gym 6 months now and literally haven’t noticed a single change in my strength. I look exactly the same, all that happened is i can do like 5 more pushups than when i started and that happened right away when i started and hasn’t changed since. You literally need roids or else nothing happens. you wont even get stronger without roids youll just be lifting for no reason at all.

You can't be serious bro are you eating literal shit or what and what's even your training program (or you might have top 0,001% genetics)

 

[ꞨtüssyBoy]

yeah natty training is just a joke tbh

Theres nothing worse than getting a sick pump in the gym week in and week out but never actually gaining any muscle. Natty training is a sick joke, its like masochism, its self flagellation

I just don’t think its worth it for someone like me, I head to the gym daily but I don’t expect huge gains, I’m also a student athlete and I could get drug tested any time so it’s not worth the risk

 

[isis_Bleach]

You can't be serious bro are you eating literal shit or what and what's even your training program (or you might have top 0,001% genetics)

i eat pretty good lots of protein and fruits no fast food or seed oil just some sweets and juice thats all i eat which is “bad” plus i outlined the program in this thread

its like this 4 days a week workout
every day will be either push or pull
i do increase the weight but the weight never gets easier so its kinda pointless.
beginning with cardio either rowing machine or treadmill
then 1 warmup set and 8 sets of every exercise
3-4 exercises per session
so for example it will be
8x8 overhead press
8x8 bench press
8x8 squats

or

8x8 cable rows
8xAMRAP pullups
8x8 face pulls
8x8 RDL

and the thing is i am sore after every workout. i literally gain 0 strength. all that has happened after 6 months is i have SLIGHTLY more work capacity. so i can do more sets and more cardio. thats the only difference. i look the same too.

 

[max010]

i eat pretty good lots of protein and fruits no fast food or seed oil just some sweets and juice thats all i eat which is “bad” plus i outlined the program in this thread

Man I'm sorry, you might have terrible genetics, I hope you're happy my friend

 

[theblueprints]

I’m 5 years into lifting and have noticed difference this summer

If I didn’t do sports in college I think I’d be done natty lifting

 

[sonic55555]

Man I'm sorry, you might have terrible genetics, I hope you're happy my friend

nah
natty training does nothing
im the authority on training here

 

[sonic55555]

people think a pump means that natty training did something.... no that pump is gonna fade away and youll be right back to square one, cuz natty lifting doesnt build any muscle

plenty of pics of people training natty for a decade without building a gram of muscle. its the norm. Roids are popular for a reason

 

[Luquier]

boxing gym 150-200 dollar a month tho

It’s like 30 quid in my ends where do u live

 

[isis_Bleach]

people think a pump means that natty training did something.... no that pump is gonna fade away and youll be right back to square one, cuz natty lifting doesnt build any muscle

plenty of pics of people training natty for a decade without building a gram of muscle. its the norm. Roids are popular for a reason

yea im pretty sure ur body just keeps the muscle its supposed to have genetically and lifting doesnt change it unless ur on roids ofc. its like thinking stretching will make u taller it makes sense in theory but in practice doesnt work.

even then im not sure if it is the training which makes roids work because clav doesnt even lift and has a good physique from roids.

 

[isis_Bleach]

I’m 5 years into lifting and have noticed difference this summer

If I didn’t do sports in college I think I’d be done natty lifting

so it took u 5 years to see a difference ? holy shit

 

[sonic55555]

yea im pretty sure ur body just keeps the muscle its supposed to have genetically and lifting doesnt change it unless ur on roids ofc. its like thinking stretching will make u taller it makes sense in theory but in practice doesnt work.

even then im not sure if it is the training which makes roids work because clav doesnt even lift and has a good physique from roids.

im gonna blackpill you even harder on roids... You know how people think tren, testosterone and anavar actually does something? They barely do. Even being on tren is BARELY more gains than being natty

The true blackpill of lifting is that you need insulin, hgh, and STRONG orals like anadrol to actually get gains from roids

 

[theblueprints]

so it took u 5 years to see a difference ? holy shit

I worded this poorly, I meant I’ve noticed differences from this summer alone. Pre summer to post

 

[SoundnVision]

Do you just walk in then walk out again?

 

[isis_Bleach]

Do you just walk in then walk out again?

its like this 4 days a week workout
every day will be either push or pull
i do increase the weight but the weight never gets easier so its kinda pointless.
beginning with cardio either rowing machine or treadmill
then 1 warmup set and 8 sets of every exercise
3-4 exercises per session
so for example it will be
8x8 overhead press
8x8 bench press
8x8 squats

or

8x8 cable rows
8xAMRAP pullups
8x8 face pulls
8x8 RDL

and the thing is i am sore after every workout. i literally gain 0 strength. all that has happened after 6 months is i have SLIGHTLY more work capacity. so i can do more sets and more cardio. thats the only difference. i look the same too.

 

[SoundnVision]

How good you look and how much you can gain is genetics but if you literally look the same then you arnt sleeping or eating enough

 

[isis_Bleach]

im gonna blackpill you even harder on roids... You know how people think tren, testosterone and anavar actually does something? They barely do. Even being on tren is BARELY more gains than being natty

The true blackpill of lifting is that you need insulin, hgh, and STRONG orals like anadrol to actually get gains from roids

damn son tbh im fat as shit tho like i could easily be 250 lbs if i wanted. so idk if i need insulin or not. wait so how do u think clav looks good even tho he’s only on T ? he’s larp ?

 

[isis_Bleach]

How good you look and how much you can gain is genetics but if you literally look the same then you arnt sleeping or eating enough

i weight 200 lbs at 6’2 so i eat plenty i eat healthy i sleep well not ojly do i look the same but my strength is the exact same the only difference is SLIGHTLY more cardio (like twice as much)

 

[sonic55555]

damn son tbh im fat as shit tho like i could easily be 250 lbs if i wanted. so idk if i need insulin or not. wait so how do u think clav looks good even tho he’s only on T ? he’s larp ?

youd lose weight fast on steroids, real quick. once you get a shitload of strong androgens in your body

i think he looked good on roids when he worked out

 

[aelimaeli]

this the type of guy to train until mild discomfort