H1B salaries at Amazon leaked by an insider source

[Jason Voorhees]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and Amazon has two offices HQ1. Amazon's global headquarters in Seattle, Washington and a bunch of offices in the bay area in Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, Cupertino, San Francisco. Bay Area salaries are on average around ~5-20% higher than in Seattle for every level.. all the base salaries i mention are concrete but the stock options and bonuses are just average approximates.



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@User28823 @Chadeep @aladdinmaxxer @Akhi @gooner23 @Brus Wane @optimisticzoomer @Debetro @menas

 

[elkkkk]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

View attachment 4155217

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.


View attachment 4155195

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and difference san Francisco bay area salaries are on average around ~5-10% higher



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

underpaid if you compare it to what some americans earn as software engineers

 

[TheArchitect]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

View attachment 4155217

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.


View attachment 4155195

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and difference san Francisco bay area salaries are on average around ~5-10% higher



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

i thought cisco was gonna be more ngl

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i thought cisco was gonna be more ngl

Cisco is a big name, but more enterprise related imo. While amazon is consumer+cloud. It's salaries would obviously be better

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@BigBallsLarry @Foreverbrad @Saint Casanova @piec @crazyguy @RXnd

 

[thereallegend]

Very good pay but an expensive location. AWS is the highest paying I believe.

 

[crazyguy]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

View attachment 4155217

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.


View attachment 4155195

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and Amazon has two offices HQ1. Amazon's global headquarters in Seattle, Washington and a bunch of offices in the bay area in Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, Cupertino, San Francisco. Bay Area salaries are on average around ~5-15+% higher than in Seattle for every level.



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

theyre definitely not underpaid

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

what's the average non-h1b. they should be paid the same amount as americans

 

[Jason Voorhees]

what's the average non-h1b. they should be paid the same amount as americans

Due to H1Bs laws they need to be paid the prevailing wage which is the same salary as they would pay to an American whic is determined by the U.S. Department of Labor but I've heard people say that the prevailing wage is sometimes set slightly below what an American would be irl be paid otherwise

 

[mrdouchebag]

Zuck the Cuck and Bezos the Bald Fuck are hoarding all the money to themselves, while average chinese and indian sub5 wagie wageslaves 16 hours/day.

Eat the rich!(unless the rich is me hehehe)
Redistribute wealth! Pay the people their reparations!
Fuck all these crooked billionaires!
Seize their properties and bank accounts, then give it to the downtrodden!

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Jager @jeoyw9192

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@FaceandBBC @Lefty Rankin @Swarthy Knight

 

[Jager]

doesnt seem underpaid

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@kurd @romanstock

 

[FaceandBBC]

They definitely aren’t being underpaid. Making this much while living in Bay Area or Seattle is solid. If they were in New York or something then it would be a different story.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Tagging Californiacels @slaters @59H390

 

[kurd]

tf is a h1b

 

[Jason Voorhees]

They definitely aren’t being underpaid. Making this much while living in Bay Area or Seattle is solid. If they were in New York or something then it would be a different story.

I keep forgetting that the average studio apartment the size of a coffin is almost a million dollars in NYC

 

[Jason Voorhees]

tf is a h1b

Bro is living under a rock

 

[Jason Voorhees]

.

 

[ltn_looksminner]

money that i can only dream of

 

[Foreverbrad]

money that i can only dream of

Pretty much, these salaries are “massively overpaid” to everyone not in that field. I did an equally hard STEM degree but have to grovel for pennies in comparison.

 

[slaters]

Tagging Californiacels @slaters @59H390

I’m not that high iq

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Pretty much, these salaries are “massively overpaid” to everyone not in that field. I did an equally hard STEM degree but have to grovel for pennies in comparison.

What degree bro?

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Not to sound narcy or whatever but is that rly the most you are able to make in big tech? I thought niggas be making millions n shieet

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I’m not that high iq

Just asking if you would have satisfied with that money and think you could live in those areas with that moneh

 

[Foreverbrad]

What degree bro?

Mechanical Engineering… MASTERS too… all for £40k

 

[slaters]

Just asking if you would have satisfied with that money and think you could live in those areas with that moneh

My entire life’s paid for I have no concept of money but probably yeah I think that’d be cool

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Not to sound narcy or whatever but is that rly the most you are able to make in big tech? I thought niggas be making millions n shieet

After L7 you enter into the millionions of dollars per year territory. There's also L8 and the highest L9 engineers that make around 3-4 million every year after that you need to go into management and C suite for higher pay

 

[Jason Voorhees]

My entire life’s paid for I have no concept of money but probably yeah I think that’d be cool

Chad rich parentscel

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Mechanical Engineering… MASTERS too… all for £40k

You'll never be unemployed and layed off tho

 

[loanshark]

Is it possible to get H1B as a non-indian these days or not really? What steps do I have to take to migrate to the USA?

 

[Foreverbrad]

You'll never be unemployed and layed off tho

That’s completely untrue and with the offshoring going on may happen sooner than later. My company was ruthless to lay off 75% of the engineering team during Covid for example.

 

[slaters]

Chad rich parentscel

Like this if you fuck with bbw

 

[Swarthy Knight]

After L7 you enter into the millionions of dollars per year territory. There's also L8 and the highest L9 engineers that make around 3-4 million every year after that you need to go into management and C suite for higher pay

Ahh makes sense. Are they all part of the top 1% of earners in Tech tho? Or is it a bit more realistically reachable than that

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Is it possible to get H1B as a non-indian these days or not really? What steps do I have to take to migrate to the USA?

H1Bs doesn't depend on country since there are country caps. Plenty of Chinese and slav engineers also come to the US as long as you have a STEM degree your employer can apply for a H1B

 

[brutal_blackpill]

Only cringe white autists who can't make money without their daddy providing their funds think H1Bs are cheap labour. It's funny to see INTRINSICALLY LOW IQ SKILL-LESS people complain

 

[Jason Voorhees]

That’s completely untrue and with the offshoring going on may happen sooner than later. My company was ruthless to lay off 75% of the engineering team during Covid for example.

I've heard that fields like mechanical, civil, and other core engineering roles tend to be less affected by offshoring or mass layoffs compared to software/tech, because it require on-site work hands-on expertise or local knowledge. @imontheloose is also a britcel engineer and he told me he can only be replaced by a local and not anyone else because of the nature of the work

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Ahh makes sense. Are they all part of the top 1% of earners in Tech tho? Or is it a bit more realistically reachable than that

Till L7 it is achievable as long as you meet performance targets and do well.
It's not realistically reachable for everyone but it's a known and structured milestone for the best people.L8/L9 is more reserved for industry leaders and pioneers. It's quite rare for someone to reach L8 and L9.

 

[Foreverbrad]

I've heard that fields like mechanical, civil, and other core engineering roles tend to be less affected by offshoring or mass layoffs compared to software/tech, because it require on-site work hands-on expertise or local knowledge. @imontheloose is also a britcel engineer and he told me he can only be replaced by a local and not anyone else because of the nature of the work

It’s 90% office based and 10% worksite based and the corporate thinking is to have one guy in UK doing more like a 50/50 split and directing a team of offshored much cheaper Indians who do office based documentation, analysis and design work only.

Especially with AI being rolled out (we are so slow) I can absolutely see layoffs happening in 2026-27. I will just NEET if I get laid off, this career is shit anyway.

 

[brutal_blackpill]

I've heard that fields like mechanical, civil, and other core engineering roles tend to be less affected by offshoring or mass layoffs compared to software/tech, because it require on-site work hands-on expertise or local knowledge. @imontheloose is also a britcel engineer and he told me he can only be replaced by a local and not anyone else because of the nature of the work

why are you fantasizing about a visa in a country that won't allow you in and doesn't even want you here? Why is it your dream to be in a country that does not want you? If you were brought up here, I get the attachment. But you can have a better life in a different western country as well

 

[brutal_blackpill]

btw you probably don't want to get a job rn anyways, I think a recession will happen soon (probably within the next 3-4 months) and so all stock entries will be terrible (but I could be wrong) @Jason Voorhees

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

View attachment 4155217

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.


View attachment 4155195

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and Amazon has two offices HQ1. Amazon's global headquarters in Seattle, Washington and a bunch of offices in the bay area in Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, Cupertino, San Francisco. Bay Area salaries are on average around ~5-20% higher than in Seattle for every level.. all the base salaries i mention are concrete but the stock options and bonuses are just average approximates.



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

American salaries are like wet dreams to us europooors

I’m sure the tax and housing must take most of this money away right there’s just no way.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

why are you fantasizing about a visa in a country that won't allow you in and doesn't even want you here? Why is it your dream to be in a country that does not want you? If you were brought up here, I get the attachment. But you can have a better life in a different western country as well

US salaries are pretty much unmoggable.. Why wouldn't I want to move to country for better career prospects? That is a much more valid reason to geomaxx than for some muh pussy. Also tech is one of my passions. I could coast on my parents' wealth, retire now, and rot forever, but I'm not like that. I'm grinding for the love of the game not just the bag.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

American salaries are like wet dreams to us europooors

I’m sure the tax and housing must take most of this money away right there’s just no way.

Tax actually isn't too bad in California. Te top rate only applies to taxable income over $700k what will eat up your salaries is housing and cost of living but it again depends. California can be very expensive but it's not like NYC where all your money will go towards a coffin. You can commute, live in the outskirts etc @FaceandBBC

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@buddhistking @iblamechico thoughts?

 

[aladdinmaxxer]

Some user on X leaked the Amazon's salary structure for it's H1B employees since it's one the companies with highest number of H1B visa requests

View attachment 4155217

This is the salary structure

L4: Entry-level / New Grad / SDE I

L5: Mid-level / SDE II or PM (non-senior)

L6: Senior Engineer or Senior PM

L7: Principal / Senior Manager

L8+: Director / Senior Principal, etc.


View attachment 4155195

These numbers are total compensation (base + stock + bonus) and Amazon has two offices HQ1. Amazon's global headquarters in Seattle, Washington and a bunch of offices in the bay area in Sunnyvale, Palo Alto, Cupertino, San Francisco. Bay Area salaries are on average around ~5-20% higher than in Seattle for every level.. all the base salaries i mention are concrete but the stock options and bonuses are just average approximates.



Software Engineer (AWS):

L4 (SDE I)

$168K in Seattle
($131k base + ~$30K stock+ ~$7K bonus approx)

$197K in Bay Area
($150K base stock + $34K stock options+~13k Bonus)

Software Development Engineer (Amazon.com) and Non-Senior Technical Product Managers

L5 (SDE II)

$266K total in Seattle.
($168K base + $92.5K stock+$5.5K bonus)

$321K total in Bay Area.
(194k base +$119K stock+$8K bonus)

L6 (SDE III / Senior Engineer/Product Manager). No bonus after this level

$389K total in Seattle
($197K base + $192K stock)

$445K total in Bay Area.
($225K base +$220K stock)


That's about it. There are levels above this also but they don't typically go to H1Bs. What do you think? Underpaid?
Overpaid?

the salary u gave for sde 1 is top 15 th-20th percentile income in usa (let alone other first world nations where they r relatively low)......
just imagine a random indian guy from the slums of bihar who worked very hard to get into these jobs at the age of 22-23 he entered into top 15th percentile earners in USA cucking the americans who r living in their own country since birth ...brootal shit for americans chads . I do get why they are scared to these h1b MOGGERS and said stuff like "muh those indians work at underpaid jobs taking our jobs saar , those eeendians cheap labours taking our jobs saar " like nigga, those indians had so low spawn point that they were destined to rot in the slums of bihar ; but somehow studymaxxed to reach a position where they shouldn't have been there by law of destiny that too at such a young age ; must be butt hurting for 50 y/0 loser william from kansa city who is eating mcdonald burger and typing racist stuff on 4chan

 

[FaceandBBC]

Tax actually isn't too bad in California. Te top rate only applies to taxable income over $700k what will eat up your salaries is housing and cost of living but it again depends. California can be very expensive but it's not like NYC where all your money will go towards a coffin. You can commute, live in the outskirts etc @FaceandBBC

California taxes is nothing compared to NYC. You still have no financial freedom over in NYC even if you’re making $120k a year.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Tax actually isn't too bad in California. Te top rate only applies to taxable income over $700k what will eat up your salaries is housing and cost of living but it again depends. California can be very expensive but it's not like NYC where all your money will go towards a coffin. You can commute, live in the outskirts etc @FaceandBBC

Yeah i removed a pizza girl telling me she made like 50k in cali and said she was broke or stn like
That cos of all the expenses of living and I was like “WTF PIZZA PAYING THAT MUCH IN WUROPE ITS HALF” but there’s always a catch like how Switzerland has massive Salary but when you see what that’s on about then you realise it’s cos cost of living