Has anyone actually ascended?

[DivineBeing]

I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?

 

[Deleted member 15099]

I could ascend with rhino

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Yeah I've seen people get all those surgeries in DMs and some became Chads and others looked like the same normie with better features.

No, I haven't seen anyone go from a true normie or below to Chad, especially not in 1 surgery. To be a Chad, you need a good eye area, jaw, and midface. If you had 1-2 out of the 3, you'd already be at least high tier normie. It's currently impossible to go from normie to Chad since eye area surgeries are in their early days. Zygo/midface surgeries are also pretty limited.

 

[DivineBeing]

I could ascend with rhino

Post Face so we can assess

 

[DivineBeing]

Yeah I've seen people get all those surgeries in DMs and some became Chads and others looked like the same normie with better features.

Was there a correlation between the surgery type performed and whether they became Chad or not (e.g. did Jaw implants always ascend normies and Rhino's never did? Or was there none of that behaviour?)

What surgery ascended the highest percentage of normies to chads from the pics you have seen?

 

[Rift]

Yeah I've seen people get all those surgeries in DMs and some became Chads and others looked like the same normie with better features.

No, I haven't seen anyone go from a true normie or below to Chad, especially not in 1 surgery. To be a Chad, you need a good eye area, jaw, and midface. If you had 1-2 out of the 3, you'd already be at least high tier normie. It's currently impossible to go from normie to Chad since eye area surgeries are in their early days. Zygo/midface surgeries are also pretty limited.

Imagine being 6'7 and rotting on this forum. Just lol

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Was there a correlation between the surgery type performed and whether they became Chad or not (e.g. did Jaw implants always ascend normies and Rhino's never did? Or was there none of that behaviour?)

What surgery ascended the highest percentage of normies to chads from the pics you have seen?

Rhinos don't ascend you to Chad. They can only make you less ugly and in the best case scenario can ascend you from being below average to being average if you have a massive nose. Jaw implants were the highest % of ascensions.

The thing that ascended most normies to Chad-level was taking steroids. Stop planning surgeries like an autist if you're already normie and hit the gym on some gear. Getting 20 small surgeries isn't going to do shit. Only surgeries that are worth it are to fix big failos.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Imagine being 6'7 and rotting on this forum. Just lol

What else am I supposed to do? I have no friends or anything and it's due to me being extremely ugly in my upbringing and still only a ltn now.

 

[Rift]

What else am I supposed to do? I have no friends or anything and it's due to me being extremely ugly in my upbringing and still only a ltn now.

You're 6'7 jfl. Literally go slit your wrists

 

[gamma]

I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery

It's impossible with a SINGLE surgery

 

[DivineBeing]

It's impossible with a SINGLE surgery

Yeah my incoming surgery bill for the face alone is way beyond 100k USD right now. I'm just wondering whether it has to be that way.

Surely Modified Lefort 3 or other Osteotomies that move the whole face have the potential to ascend someone hard?

 

[datboijj]

Rhinos don't ascend you to Chad. They can only make you less ugly and in the best case scenario can ascend you from being below average to being average if you have a massive nose. Jaw implants were the highest % of ascensions.

The thing that ascended most normies to Chad-level was taking steroids. Stop planning surgeries like an autist if you're already normie and hit the gym on some gear. Getting 20 small surgeries isn't going to do shit. Only surgeries that are worth it are to fix big failos.

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people don't understand that rhino is just like removing a huge pimple on your face
nothing much will add to your psl

 

[mulattomaxxer]

I've never seen anyone ascend from Normie to Chad with a single surgery.

Was there ever anyone who did multiple surgeries and ascended from Normie to Chad? (for example BiMax then Wraparound Jaw then Infraorbitals etc.)

Has anyone ever gotten Modified Lefort 3 and what did it cost?

There are ascended users. Most people get their with softmaxxing only.

@chadison had a great ascension with gym + rhinoplasty. There are other users but his was very noticeable for me.

There was also orb who had an incredible ascension. But I think he just softmaxxed up.

 

[Sens]

@Salludon

This guy

 

[JustAFewMM]

Yeah my incoming surgery bill for the face alone is way beyond 100k USD right now. I'm just wondering whether it has to be that way.

Surely Modified Lefort 3 or other Osteotomies that move the whole face have the potential to ascend someone hard?

how do you afford that

 

[Fart mic]

Yeah I have tbh

post face

 

[Fart mic]

how do you afford that

u have to

 

[Pakicel]

I could ascend with rhino

How do you know that? Have you ever morphed yourself? Make a motion video of yourself from all angle. Then take screenshots from various angles and make realistic morphs. Look at various rhino before/afters to gauge what is realistic. But tbh, I'd just softmax if I were you. There's a possibility your face might change as you enter your 20s.

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah I've seen people get all those surgeries in DMs and some became Chads and others looked like the same normie with better features.

No, I haven't seen anyone go from a true normie or below to Chad, especially not in 1 surgery. To be a Chad, you need a good eye area, jaw, and midface. If you had 1-2 out of the 3, you'd already be at least high tier normie. It's currently impossible to go from normie to Chad since eye area surgeries are in their early days. Zygo/midface surgeries are also pretty limited.

This. And surgeries can be very unpredictable. Imo, if you are a non-deformed normie, you are just better off getting minor procedures such rhino, HT etc. Becoming chad with just surgery is virtually impossible.

 

[Birdcell]

If I had money I could definitely brutemaxx and look like a masculine mogger , but nobody wants to perform surgeries on me in this cucked land

 

[DivineBeing]

If I had money I could definitely brutemaxx and look like a masculine mogger , but nobody wants to perform surgeries on me in this cucked land

Why does no one do surgeries on you in your country?

I thought money talks lol

 

[Birdcell]

Why does no one do surgeries on you in your country?

I thought money talks lol

In Germany it's complicated , there is probably some ethnic doc that would perform surgeries here , but the best surgeons work only with eligible patients (which I'm not)

 

[DivineBeing]

In Germany it's complicated , there is probably some ethnic doc that would perform surgeries here , but the best surgeons work only with eligible patients (which I'm not)

what kind of surgery are you trying to get?

 

[Birdcell]

what kind of surgery are you trying to get?

First and foremost genioplasty (taller chin) , then prob BiMax (or bsso) after that rhino would be good , and on top of it buccal fat removal with maybe slight hair transplant and if needed fillers

 

[DivineBeing]

First and foremost genioplasty (taller chin) , then prob BiMax (or bsso) after that rhino would be good , and on top of it buccal fat removal with maybe slight hair transplant and if needed fillers

Looks like a solid plan.

Would you have to pay it out of pocket? How long would you need to save for that?

 

[Birdcell]

Looks like a solid plan.

Would you have to pay it out of pocket? How long would you need to save for that?

I have currently saved 5k , would need ca 20-30 k for all of this. It's all for the sake of being good looking , it's not like I'm hideous now or anything , but being average isn't good enough nowadays

 

[DivineBeing]

I have currently saved 5k , would need ca 20-30 k for all of this. It's all for the sake of being good looking , it's not like I'm hideous now or anything , but being average isn't good enough nowadays

Nice 20-30k doesn't seem that much for all the surgeries you mentioned.

I have almost the same surgeries I need and they tally up to around 100k USD for me

Do you have a pic of your face?

 

[Birdcell]

Nice 20-30k doesn't seem that much for all the surgeries you mentioned.

I have almost the same surgeries I need and they tally up to around 100k USD for me

Do you have a pic of your face?

Yeah , I posted plenty times
100k seems too much

 

[chadmanlet04]

need buccal fat removal/a proper maxilla construction i have a wide skull and an ok chin/jaw but my cheeks are chubby af even at 14 percent bf

 

[DivineBeing]

Yeah , I posted plenty times
100k seems too much
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Wtf you look good lol. I think your main flaw is your face is too wide - how do you fix that?

 

[Birdcell]

Wtf you look good lol. I think your main flaw is your face is too wide - how do you fix that?

Look at the nose , it's also an issue + long philtrum (that's why I need taller chin to offset that) . Fixing wide face , seems like almost and impossible thing , I have VERY wide face something like 15+cm bizygomatic width (around 16cm jfl) . I used to look much better before I enrolled into college and gained bloat because of stress , these 2 pics are from 3 years ago , my bones were much more defined

 

[DivineBeing]

Look at the nose , it's also an issue + long philtrum (that's why I need taller chin to offset that) . Fixing wide face , seems like almost and impossible thing , I have VERY wide face something like 15+cm bizygomatic width (around 16cm jfl) . I used to look much better before I enrolled into college and gained bloat because of stress , these 2 pics are from 3 years ago , my bones were much more defined

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Yeah seems you descended since college. I think your midface also got longer somehow lol.

Yeah maybe making the face taller to ogremaxx is the best way to ascend for you.

Although in South Korea they do face slimming surgeries around the cheek region and jaw region. But I agree you need a taller chin due to long philtrum

 

[Deleted member 8988]

what about from incel - 3 psl to high tier normie - 5~5.25 PSL? He can still slay in the right circumastances.
one of the biggest ascensions I've ever seen

 

[DivineBeing]

what about from incel - 3 psl to high tier normie - 5~5.25 PSL? He can still slay in the right circumastances.
one of the biggest ascensions I've ever seen

Yeah looks like Keanu Reeves absolute mogger ascension

 

[subhuman incel]

Look at the nose , it's also an issue + long philtrum (that's why I need taller chin to offset that) . Fixing wide face , seems like almost and impossible thing , I have VERY wide face something like 15+cm bizygomatic width (around 16cm jfl) . I used to look much better before I enrolled into college and gained bloat because of stress , these 2 pics are from 3 years ago , my bones were much more defined

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wide face is good you just need more forward growth with bimax

 

[Pakicel]

First and foremost genioplasty (taller chin) , then prob BiMax (or bsso) after that rhino would be good , and on top of it buccal fat removal with maybe slight hair transplant and if needed fillers

Why get genio before bimax? Why not Bimax with ccw and genio at the same time? Have you tried morphing yourself?

 

[Birdcell]

wide face is good you just need more forward growth with bimax

More maxilliary growth right ?

 

[Exsubhuman]

i have acended from incel to HTN via trimax, i am gonna have custom impants too soo nto acend to chadlite

 

[DivineBeing]

i have acended from incel to HTN via trimax, i am gonna have custom impants too soo nto acend to chadlite

show pictures

 

[DivineBeing]

More maxilliary growth right ?
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you got insane bones though won't a bimax apemaxx you?

 

[Birdcell]

Why get genio before bimax? Why not Bimax with ccw and genio at the same time? Have you tried morphing yourself?

Because the plastic surgeon I've met said it's very expensive if doing for cosmetic purposes here in Germany (he said there's no medical reasons for me to do it) , from this picture I think the maxilla is slightly behind the mandible

I've made quick the 2 morphs in Faceapp , but somehow I have the feeling that no surgery in word will yield these results , I'd say from 4.5psl to 5/5.25

 

[Birdcell]

you got insane bones though won't a bimax apemaxx you?

Idk , I was thinking the same , but apparently there's always some room for improvement and more bones would help me to make my face more "lean"

 

[one job away]

Yeah , I posted plenty times
100k seems too much
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You don’t need bimax at all. If anything you need it for a taller lower third. But you can use chinwing or genio only for that. Projection wise you are fine. Bimax would be overkill

 

[Pakicel]

Because the plastic surgeon I've met said it's very expensive if doing for cosmetic purposes here in Germany (he said there's no medical reasons for me to do it) , from this picture I think the maxilla is slightly behind the mandible

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I've made quick the 2 morphs in Faceapp , but somehow I have the feeling that no surgery in word will yield these results , I'd say from 4.5psl to 5/5.25

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I guess your cheeks became hollower and your nose got smaller in these morphs. I don't think these morphs are unrealistic btw (In fact, there's barely any difference). I have seen filler results more extreme than this. Heck, even leanmaxxing could get you most of the change. But tbh, I don't think there really is any surgery that could seriously benefit you. Try chin fillers or get a slight genio for height.

 

[Pakicel]

You don’t need bimax at all. If anything you need it for a taller lower third. But you can use chinwing or genio only for that. Projection wise you are fine. Bimax would be overkill

What are thoughts on the morphs he shared?

 

[Birdcell]

I guess your cheeks became hollower and your nose got smaller in these morphs. I don't think these morphs are unrealistic btw (In fact, there's barely any difference). I have seen filler results more extreme than this. Heck, even leanmaxxing could get you most of the change. But tbh, I don't think there really is any surgery that could seriously benefit you. Try chin fillers or get a slight genio for height.

Tbh this is true : when for me the difference may seem like day and night , for average observer the difference will be negligible

 

[one job away]

What are thoughts on the morphs he shared?

Haven’t seen them

 

[Pakicel]

You don’t need bimax at all. If anything you need it for a taller lower third. But you can use chinwing or genio only for that. Projection wise you are fine. Bimax would be overkill

What are the limits of those procedures for providing vertical height? I saw a response by eppley where he stated 10-12 mm vertical genios are possible with bone grafts. Of course, if you have that much deficiency then it's likely your jaw is fucked and you need bimax anyway. But genio is a lot less invasive than bimax and cheaper too. I know it's a cope surgery but I have seen a couple of genio results that were legit improvements.

 

[Birdcell]

Haven’t seen them

He means this
Imho 4.5 psl to 5 psl

 

[Birdcell]

What are the limits of those procedures for providing vertical height? I saw a response by eppley where he stated 10-12 mm vertical genios are possible with bone grafts. Of course, if you have that much deficiency then it's likely your jaw is fucked and you need bimax anyway. But genio is a lot less invasive than bimax and cheaper too. I know it's a cope surgery but I have seen a couple of genio results that were legit improvements.

10-12 mm seems like a lot , considering the average chin height is slightly above 2 cm.
BiMax is considered more or less safe to perform. I think , that genio Isn't cope for people with short head (brachycephalic) like mine