Have you listened to this old Plato interview about facial structure?

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This is the guy who was promoting face pulling with a hockey helmet:

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His site is down, but I was able to access it through wayback machine. It's got an interesting interview on there, that I haven't listened to before.

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They discuss facial structure, and how it affects every facet of life - from health and aesthetics, to personality, to energetic aspects.

Worth a listen.
 
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the facepuller made of a hockey helmet attatched to an orthodontic appliance inside the mouth does not work.
There are many reasons for this, let me quote some:

> it is well known in dentistry that orthodontic facemasks do not work in adults (unless you wear them 24 hours a day)
> even if you are 14 years old and can benefit from facepullers, you cannot pull upward but only frontally and this is not optimal for facial forward growth
> you will experience plenty of saliva coming out your mouth and terrible pain
 
Thanks for this, very interesting podcast
 
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the facepuller made of a hockey helmet attatched to an orthodontic appliance inside the mouth does not work.
There are many reasons for this, let me quote some:

> it is well known in dentistry that orthodontic facemasks do not work in adults (unless you wear them 24 hours a day)
> even if you are 14 years old and can benefit from facepullers, you cannot pull upward but only frontally and this is not optimal for facial forward growth
> you will experience plenty of saliva coming out your mouth and terrible pain
but it still works? who cares about wearing it 24/7 if it means you wouldn't need a bimax or worse
 
I'll give it a listen. But what a shit website layout.
 
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What the fuck :lul:. Imagine coping with this shit instead of just getting bimax
 
the facepuller made of a hockey helmet attatched to an orthodontic appliance inside the mouth does not work.
There are many reasons for this, let me quote some:

> it is well known in dentistry that orthodontic facemasks do not work in adults (unless you wear them 24 hours a day)
> even if you are 14 years old and can benefit from facepullers, you cannot pull upward but only frontally and this is not optimal for facial forward growth
> you will experience plenty of saliva coming out your mouth and terrible pain
Your first 2 points are arguable, but I'm not even sure how you came up with the last one lol
 
What the fuck :lul:. Imagine coping with this shit instead of just getting bimax
Doesn't solve cranial strain - to through all the risk just to keep your compressed sphenoid and underactive pituitary lol.
 
theres a channel called bestfaceforward, the guy is doing every shit possible for the last 10 years and his face didnt change a single bit, is kinda sad. Now hes in this thumb pulling stuff, i will wait 1 year to see if he got any results lol. Theres the mewing.world on instagram who also promotes this (Lilia knows a lot its actually impressive, but i dont know if its true).
 
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theres a channel called bestfaceforward, the guy is doing every shit possible for the last 10 years and his face didnt change a single bit, is kinda sad. Now hes in this thumb pulling stuff, i will wait 1 year to see if he got any results lol. Theres the mewing.world on instagram who also promotes this (Lilia knows a lot its actually impressive, but i dont know if its true).
He didn't get any results in 10 years because the only way to get permanent results is with invasive surgery.

Invasive surgery costs a lot of money and most people don't have a lot of money.

These 'techniques' are nothing but desperate cargo-culting copes for hopeless people with no money who want to emulate the results of an expensive surgery without spending a single cent.
 
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Fucking retard, I thought this was about the philosopher Plato
 
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He didn't get any results in 10 years because the only way to get permanent results is with invasive surgery.

Invasive surgery costs a lot of money and most people don't have a lot of money.

These 'techniques' are nothing but desperate cargo-culting copes for hopeless people with no money who want to emulate the results of an expensive surgery without spending a single cent.
its not about money, in my case its because its invasive and therefore risky.
 

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