Having a high iq = your life is OVER

Holding frame is simple, all you need to do is have high enough self confidence to carry the interaction to where you want to go without holding back anything you want to say. The difference between a nice guy's behaviour and a fuckboy's behaviour is that the fuckboy will keep talking to the woman until she rejects him and he will make every move he wants to make without being afraid of the outcome.
It's not that simple to hold frame when a girl is showing clearly that she is disgusted by you and doesn't want to talk.

Nobody I know holds frame in those scenarios and just tries with a diff girl instead. Which is what makes the redpill feel like some type of internet larp to most people. Nobody sees this happen in person.

People just see good-looking fuckboys being greeted with big eyes and a smile and an interaction that was bound to succeed from the start. I have never seen a bad-looking fuckboy seducing women, holding frame, etc.

The few times I have seen ugly men with good-looking women was when they had status and used that to open interactions with women that would otherwise not speak to them.
 
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Chilling with close friendgroup every day, girlfriend, parties, lots of shit going on. But I can no longer get this and everything else seems bland.
I feel you, I'm 24, autistic, have a low to mediocre intellect, NW1, and on the top of that, I get jawmogged by 3 year old girls on the street; I have never been able to to take part in that kind of live you described. At least, judging by no longer, you experienced some of those things, on the other hand I have missed out on literally everything, it's simply over.
 
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I feel you, I'm 24, autistic, have a low to mediocre intellect, NW1, and on the top of that, I get jawmogged by 3 year old girls on the street; I have never been able to to take part in that kind of live you described. At least, judging by no longer, you experienced some of those things, on the other hand I have missed out on literally everything, it's simply over.
I have been in scenarios where I felt like I was 'almost' there a few times, but then it never really got there.

By no longer I mean that I am too old now and too damaged to even enjoy it if it did happen to me at this point, which it wont.
 
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this is literally a cope thread
its not your high iq that makes you feel depressed
jay éf él
 
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This is gonna sound like a humble brag (it is) but I REALLY hate being a high IQ autist. When I was like young in elementary school I would always score 99.99th percentile on all the standardized tests, and I got a 1590 on the SAT and all the teachers thought I was this genius who's gonna do big things in life, and yet here we are with nearly 700 posts on an obscure Incel forum.


Being high IQ means you can't relate to anyone either. My family is hardcore religious, and I became an atheist around 6 or 7 when I realized religion doesn't make any sense. I felt so isolated growing up. I knew everyone around me was fucking stupid and I was only like 8 years old.:feelswhy: I have become the biggest fucking nihilist too, like I realize life is just chasing brain chemicals pretty much.


The only nice thing about high IQ is it makes moneymaxxing easier. I am a stemcel and I got a tech internship in FAANG as a freshman which is cool. But literally I have like 9k left over from last summer and I having nothing to spend it on. Like I have no hobbies, I have no friends, and my family hates me. But at least I know I helped make some billionaires slightly richer. I honestly don't even see the point in buying nice things. Like it won't make me happy. I already have my basic needs met, a comfortable room to stay, a car that works, plenty of money for food. I don't even see the point in getting a place without roommates or getting a nicer car or anything. I will still a virgin Incel rotter loser. I will be alone in life forever pretty much.


Honestly, my best bet at this point Is to just get as much money as possible, invest it, and once I get enough where I think I will be financially independent off of interest, I will brain smash to permanently lower my IQ and then maybe I can feel what it's like to be truly alive.
:feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
High IQ but your on an incel forum, have no friends, family hates you, and your working a typical stem cell job instead of starting a business. your low IQ tbh
 
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High IQ but your on an incel forum, have no friends, family hates you, and your working a typical stem cell job instead of starting a business. your low IQ tbh
Sounds logical even tho many rotters have a respectable IQ. it's just not always about IQ.
 
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sunken cost... just start living now before its too late, how well have money copes been working for you just quit your job and turn to a life of crime and cheap thrills.
 
IQ is cope for :soy:
Dumb way of measuring intelligence based on how trained you are
Real smart people are the ones who succeed in life and have good social traits and are manipulative
 
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I can relate strongly to OP. Always scored top of my class and within the top 1% nationally. Scored 128IQ on a WAIS-IV test a psychiatrist did on me.

It becomes hard to relate to the average person and you don't enjoy the same things the avg person enjoys. High IQ is also STRONGLY correlated with inceldom:



I also totally regret how I was led to believe STEMcelling would be good for my life quality and getting the most out of my high IQ. Unlike people from the USA, where you can actually make decent money with STEM so you have atleast that going, STEMcelling in the netherlands is total trash even for moneymaxxing.

High IQ=Less NT and less Life quality

Low IQ to average IQ is ideal.
As a fellow Europoor I relate, now unlike you and @Aliens95 i don’t think I’m high IQ (wouldn’t be suprised if I am though I score too grades on prettymuch anything I put effort into but I’m lazy AF) wageslaving has been my cope as a programmer but British currency is trash. Getting a 6 figure salary in EU is equal to 75k USD that’s how fkd it is here.

I hate socilising with most normies as I’m very low effort even flirting is stressful for me as I don’t see the purpose, when I like a girl my mind is like “why cant we just have sex now why do I have to dance and speak shit and coerce her into sex” shit alwys puzzled my aspie brain.
 
Average looksmax user
>130+ IQ
>8x6 Penis
>6ft+ height
>20+ Inch shoulders width
>7+ inch wrists
>5PSL+ Face
>Gymmaxxed
>Double digit lay count

Yet the average user here is "subhuman". JUST FUCKING LOL.
I'm actually:

120-130 IQ but slow because of ADHD
6x6 Penis
6ft4 Height
Narrow Shoulders
6.75 inch wrists
4 PSL Face
Skinny Fat
Kissless virgin (not hugless though but I can count the number on one hand)


Honestly, most of us are not as ugly as we think, it's just that our self confidence is low because of our lack of a social life, and the fact that we spend most of our free time in isolation in front of screens that add no value to our life.

I think that a lot of guys on here could have an amazing sex life, just by going outside and joining group activities and social events that involve attractive women, talking with them, getting some phone numbers and going on a couple of dates to eventually bring them back to their place for making out and then sex.

The problem is that most of us have never done that before so we don't know where to start.
There are guys who are far uglier than us and far shorter than us who have gotten laid a lot just because they talked to lots of women while we didn't even bother to try. That is because most of us rely too much on online dating. Our true curse is our laziness and introversion, not our looks. Even when I had an underbite, when I talked to women IRL, they wanted me, but I was too insecure about my looks to even try to go on dates to get laid.

Most of us are just mentalcels because of our low self esteem and our laziness. But we can change by forcing ourselves to take the necessary steps towards meeting women IRL. I plan to get laid before the end of this year, possibly with more than 1 woman.
 
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clearly not high iq enough to fix your problems
 
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Ok, you know the meaning of life theoretically, chasing neurotransmitters. You have a well paying job which can make your Ascension to Chad possible, become one, mog everyone you see, get millions of iois everyday and feel like a entitled mogger Chad that drowns in dopamine. Now just live life on auto pilot.
 
Cope harder you autistic high-inhib midwit, high iq + low inhbitions mog. Your problems stem from being high inhib.
 
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My family is hardcore religious, and I became an atheist around 6 or 7 when I realized religion doesn't make any sense.
wow you're so smart:soy::soy::soy:
 
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Good thread man. Incels are literally born, and obviously its not just looks, because nature needs to compensate
@subhuman incel
@datboijj
 
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Bruh imagine the opportunities afforded to you by having a high iq you can literally do your dream job while most people wage slave
 
I gradually became an atheist around 5th or 6th grade when I realized that my religious school teachers were lying to me about evolution being fake. It also never sat right with me that you go to heaven for believing in God when you die and go to hell if you don’t believe in God when you die.
 
Cope harder u low iw baboon
 
I gradually became an atheist around 5th or 6th grade when I realized that my religious school teachers were lying to me about evolution being fake. It also never sat right with me that you go to heaven for believing in God when you die and go to hell if you don’t believe in God when you die.
atheism is a normie 100IQ trait though. Who the fuck is religious nowadays in the west lol
 
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It's not that simple to hold frame when a girl is showing clearly that she is disgusted by you and doesn't want to talk.

it shouldn't get to that point, but even then, you're in fine shape

you just have to know what precisely to say

(or if she's walking away, what to yell at her)

the exact words and exact tone matter a lot

Nobody I know holds frame in those scenarios and just tries with a diff girl instead. Which is what makes the redpill feel like some type of internet larp to most people. Nobody sees this happen in person.

lol

redpillers describe it very poorly; they make it seem like it's more complex than it really is (but what do you expect? they're trying to market a product)

it's all just confidence; signaling that you are genuinely confident that you'll eventually be giga high status even though you aren't yet

that's all "game" is: genuine, unwavering confidence

People just see good-looking fuckboys being greeted with big eyes and a smile and an interaction that was bound to succeed from the start. I have never seen a bad-looking fuckboy seducing women, holding frame, etc.

they're rare but they exist

The few times I have seen ugly men with good-looking women was when they had status and used that to open interactions with women that would otherwise not speak to them.

yeah, that's the long way to go about it: to obtain the status first

but that can take decades

it's a lot more efficient to just get her to believe right now that your status windfall is inetivable
 
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cant u give urself depression and anxiety to make yourself lose iq points
 
like grind on ur teeth 24/7
 
Even worse is having all these symptoms and being low iq:feelswhy:
 
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This is gonna sound like a humble brag (it is) but I REALLY hate being a high IQ autist. When I was like young in elementary school I would always score 99.99th percentile on all the standardized tests, and I got a 1590 on the SAT and all the teachers thought I was this genius who's gonna do big things in life, and yet here we are with nearly 700 posts on an obscure Incel forum.


Being high IQ means you can't relate to anyone either. My family is hardcore religious, and I became an atheist around 6 or 7 when I realized religion doesn't make any sense. I felt so isolated growing up. I knew everyone around me was fucking stupid and I was only like 8 years old.:feelswhy: I have become the biggest fucking nihilist too, like I realize life is just chasing brain chemicals pretty much.


The only nice thing about high IQ is it makes moneymaxxing easier. I am a stemcel and I got a tech internship in FAANG as a freshman which is cool. But literally I have like 9k left over from last summer and I having nothing to spend it on. Like I have no hobbies, I have no friends, and my family hates me. But at least I know I helped make some billionaires slightly richer. I honestly don't even see the point in buying nice things. Like it won't make me happy. I already have my basic needs met, a comfortable room to stay, a car that works, plenty of money for food. I don't even see the point in getting a place without roommates or getting a nicer car or anything. I will still a virgin Incel rotter loser. I will be alone in life forever pretty much.


Honestly, my best bet at this point Is to just get as much money as possible, invest it, and once I get enough where I think I will be financially independent off of interest, I will brain smash to permanently lower my IQ and then maybe I can feel what it's like to be truly alive.
:feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
Im actually high IQ, but Im just low IQmaxxing tbh. More fun
 
The only nice thing about high IQ is it makes moneymaxxing easier
yeah im sure automatically solving the second most important problem for humans means its over :feelsuhh::feelsuhh:
 
I have the same problem very often.
Can't have a conversation with basically anyone, except for fellow autists. I once met an autist, who shared my humor and he had a very high IQ aswell. When I said something, he immediately knew what I was talking about. It was very great.

But normal people don't "get it", when you talk about stuff. They can't make the connection on how causality works and how point A is causal for point B, etc. and they take forever to understand what you're saying.
It annoyed me so much that I pretty much ended up becoming less and less social and more and more autistic.

What you can do with money though, is surgery maxx, this should be obvious actually.
idt this has to do with just iq. most normies are overconfident and they assume something they dont understand. but i agree and when they dont understand what you are talking about they make you look like the stupid one
 
Funny coincidence that everyone on this forum just so happens to have the top grades in their school, above average dicksize and above average height.
Lol
 
This is gonna sound like a humble brag (it is) but I REALLY hate being a high IQ autist. When I was like young in elementary school I would always score 99.99th percentile on all the standardized tests, and I got a 1590 on the SAT and all the teachers thought I was this genius who's gonna do big things in life, and yet here we are with nearly 700 posts on an obscure Incel forum.


Being high IQ means you can't relate to anyone either. My family is hardcore religious, and I became an atheist around 6 or 7 when I realized religion doesn't make any sense. I felt so isolated growing up. I knew everyone around me was fucking stupid and I was only like 8 years old.:feelswhy: I have become the biggest fucking nihilist too, like I realize life is just chasing brain chemicals pretty much.


The only nice thing about high IQ is it makes moneymaxxing easier. I am a stemcel and I got a tech internship in FAANG as a freshman which is cool. But literally I have like 9k left over from last summer and I having nothing to spend it on. Like I have no hobbies, I have no friends, and my family hates me. But at least I know I helped make some billionaires slightly richer. I honestly don't even see the point in buying nice things. Like it won't make me happy. I already have my basic needs met, a comfortable room to stay, a car that works, plenty of money for food. I don't even see the point in getting a place without roommates or getting a nicer car or anything. I will still a virgin Incel rotter loser. I will be alone in life forever pretty much.


Honestly, my best bet at this point Is to just get as much money as possible, invest it, and once I get enough where I think I will be financially independent off of interest, I will brain smash to permanently lower my IQ and then maybe I can feel what it's like to be truly alive.
:feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
Lmao on brain smashing. You could just go out late all the time and drink alcohol and hit on girls. Messed up sleep schedule and alcohol over a long period of time will permanently lower your IQ, or you could just smoke weed.

But the logical structures and patterns you've built up to realize nearly every one believes in absolute bullshit for no reason, are not going to go away. At the same time, people will always be too low IQ for you to explain things to them and in that sense you'll be alone.

It will be hard to be sympathetic to people that cause their own problems, that are easily solvable, but shut down and talk trash when you explain the easy solutions they can implement for their issues.

I think the best solution is to find high IQ people to be friends with online, and just have simple fun with people IRL but don't over think things. You can enjoy playing with your dog or cat and you don't need to explain your investment strategy to your dog. Animals make you feel less alone and people are like animals.

Understand that like a dog, most people can't comprehend things that go against their current belief systems, damage their fragile ego, or require a conceptual understanding of any kind of system, but you can still have fun and enjoy playing with your dog, and it's the same with friendly and enjoyable people.

Any ways I'm fairly high IQ, so if you want to be friends and vent about things every once and a while message me, and if not try and find some other high IQ people to message and try to be friends with them until you find some, you can talk to.
 
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