Height and Frame > Face

[Lonely]

I’m pretty mid facially but I have pretty good height and face halo

OLD is meh

Irl I get pretty good results and attention

Like if I’m walking with my HTN+/ borderline CL (has a body count of like 30) friend who’s 5’8 he gets like 1/4th the attention I do tbh even though he facemogs me, is very NT and white

Imo once you meet a girls minimum face threshold being extraordinary in other metrics can take you very far

In women’s erotica, the most common description of the guy is him being tall, broad, big hands, big forearms, etc (besides the face)

Also, I think foids get wet when you look down on them and look like you could just pick em up with one arm

 

[Kara]

 

[Lonely]

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About the type of response I’d expect from someone who joined a week ago

 

[Topkra]

I’m pretty mid facially but I have pretty good height and face halo

OLD is meh

Irl I get pretty good results and attention

Like if I’m walking with my HTN+/ borderline CL (has a body count of like 30) friend who’s 5’8 he gets like 1/4th the attention I do tbh even though he facemogs me, is very NT and white

Imo once you meet a girls minimum face threshold being extraordinary in other metrics can take you very far

In women’s erotica, the most common description of the guy is him being tall, broad, big hands, big forearms, etc (besides the face)

Also, I think foids get wet when you look down on them and look like you could just pick em up with one arm

Maybe
That is definetly not the case in the age range of 0-25 tho

 

[Kara]

About the type of response I’d expect from someone who joined a week ago

My join-date has nothing to do with this situation when your point is wrong.

 

[KIVVV]

Mtn is above average like 1 in 30 so what are u talking about…

 

[Lonely]

Maybe
That is definetly not the case in the age range of 0-25 tho

Again, it depends on the girl

But as I said if you’re not super chopped it can help a lot

 

[Lonely]

My join-date has nothing to do with this situation when your point is wrong.

Posting a sub 5 guy to counter my point when I clearly said “once you meet her minimum face threshold” goes to show how braindead you are

 

[Trevor Wonter]

About the type of response I’d expect from someone who joined a week ago

ad hominem cuz yk he right

 

[Lonely]

Mtn is above average like 1 in 30 so what are u talking about…

I don’t care about this new stupid scale

MTN= mid tier normie

As in, a normie guy who’s decent looking and a little above average

 

[Lonely]

ad hominem cuz yk he right

Joined Jan 14, 2026

 

[estonianslayerr]

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Cope, cope, cope guy on the left terra mogs that subhuman Russian-looking dog.

 

[Trevor Wonter]

Joined Jan 14, 2026

my birthday btw. say happy birthday nigger and stop using ad hominem

 

[Lonely]

my birthday btw. say happy birthday nigger and stop using ad hominem

I don’t engage with 2026 Dalits sorry!

 

[Trevor Wonter]

I don’t engage with 2026 Dalits sorry!

nigga been on here 4 years. gen get a life

 

[valentine]

@IAMNOTANINCEL @hax

 

[Lonely]

nigga been on here 4 years. gen get a life

Literally inactive since 2023 until like two weeks ago ngl

 

[KIVVV]

I don’t care about this new stupid scale

MTN= mid tier normie

As in, a normie guy who’s decent looking and a little above average

Bum nowadays all are recessed with acne and no bone structure.
Nowadays the average is ltn at least in my area

 

[Trevor Wonter]

Literally inactive since 2023 until like two weeks ago ngl

so u were active for year straight then came back two years? do you have a hard time processing info or do you just have no friends?

 

[Dhoriscol]

About the type of response I’d expect from someone who joined a week ago

A correct response?
What would be the "minimum face threshold" you speak of?

 

[Lonely]

A correct response?
What would be the "minimum face threshold" you speak of?

MTN

 

[Kara]

Joined Jan 14, 2026

Please. It’s embarrassing that you’re being shut down by ‘newgens’ who haven’t even been on this forum for 1% of the time you have.

 

[Lonely]

Please. It’s embarrassing that you’re being shut down by ‘newgens’ who haven’t even been on this forum for 1% of the time you have.

“Shut down”

LMAO. You don’t know shit. Stay in your lane.

 

[оrg]

About the type of response I’d expect from someone who joined a week ago

he lowk iqmogged u

 

[Kara]

“Shut down”

LMAO. You don’t know shit. Stay in your lane.

Come on, you joined in 2022. That's all you have to show for yourself, right? Say something that actually means something.

 

[Dhoriscol]

MTN

You do realize MTN is above average right?
So once you're already above average physique starts to matter? Im very confused as to how that makes sense
Also the fact that the opposite isn't true as shown by the guy who joined last week should be pretty telling

 

[Tttopgtoni]

I'm 6'1, wide frame and get no play you either need to be 6'4+ or be good looking

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

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[Lonely]

Come on, you joined in 2022. That's all you have to show for yourself, right? Say something that actually means something.

You do realize MTN is above average right?
So once you're already above average physique starts to matter? Im very confused as to how that makes sense
Also the fact that the opposite isn't true as shown by the guy who joined last week should be pretty telling

If you had basic reading comprehension, you’d clearly see that I said “once you cross a girls minimum looks threshold”

So posting a bald sub 5 to counter me is fucking retarded because that clearly didn’t fit my criteria

And MTN is only above average because most guys are intentionally fucking themselves over through bad habits and a lack of effort. Unless you have severe flaws I doubt anyone here at 10% body fat and softmaxxed couldn’t be at least LMTN. It doesn’t really matter what percentile of guys are MTN, or if it’s above average or not.

And it’s past this point, that frame and height start to matter way more because you aren’t automatically disqualified for being ugly

 

[Lonely]

I'm 6'1, wide frame and get no play you either need to be 6'4+ or be good looking

You can easily be 6’3 or 6’4 if you chose to

 

[Dhoriscol]

If you had basic reading comprehension, you’d clearly see that I said “once you cross a girls minimum looks threshold”

So posting a bald sub 5 to counter me is fucking retarded

And MTN is only above average because most guys are intentionally fucking themselves over through bad habits and a lack of effort. Unless you have severe flaws I doubt anyone here at 10% body fat and softmaxxed couldn’t be at least LMTN

And it’s past this point, that frame and height start to matter way more because you aren’t automatically disqualified for being ugly

Are you being retarted on purpose man, the guy with the better looking face and shit physique looks better than the guy with sub 5 face and great physique, what does the minimum threshold have to do with it
The last sentence you yourself spoke tells you why face is most important, that doesn't make frame or physique bad but face is number one

 

[try2beme]

No such thing as thjs vs that for men. You need everything
Only women are allowed compromises

 

[Lonely]

No such thing as thjs vs that for men. You need everything
Only women are allowed compromises

True to an extent

But you just need to be balanced

You don’t need to be superman

 

[Lonely]

Are you being retarted on purpose man, the guy with the better looking face and shit physique looks better than the guy with sub 5 face and great physique, what does the minimum threshold have to do with it
The last sentence you yourself spoke tells you why face is most important, that doesn't make frame or physique bad but face is number one

Re-read what I wrote again, slowly.

 

[pfl]

wtf is this cope thread
post the “chadlite” friend

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

@IAMNOTANINCEL @hax

Hate to admit it but its true size is everything for primal dominance and attraction
When you actually have both height and frame you won't be ugly anyway, it's different from being a 6'7 malnourished zoomer mutant who sugarmaxxed his way into his height and sacrificed everything else

 

[HtnceI]

50/50

imo

 

[Dhoriscol]

Re-read what I wrote again, slowly.

And it’s past this point, that frame and height start to matter way more because you aren’t automatically disqualified for being ugly

whatever you say

 

[OgreFacedMonster]

wtf is this cope thread
post the “chadlite” friend

 

[Lonely]

wtf is this cope thread
post the “chadlite” friend

I don’t mind posting myself, because it’s me but I’m not gonna post some normal ass nigga on this retarded forum. He has green eyes, blonde hair, a great jaw, amazing eyes, good harmony, clear skin, regularly gets compliments from girls, always has a girlfriend or fwb.

 

[Lonely]

Hate to admit it but its true size is everything for primal dominance and attraction
When you actually have both height and frame you won't be ugly anyway, it's different from being a 6'7 malnourished zoomer mutant who sugarmaxxed his way into his height and sacrificed everything else

Usually guys in the 6’0 to 6’4 range look good facially, I think when you’re 6’5+ that’s when you look weird tbh unless you have super athletic, hot and/or tall parents