HEIGHT THEORY BLOWN OUT OF WATER. Muscles and frame matter more for slaying Girth was significantly associated with mating success

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TLDR: “girth” was measured with frame, chest, back and bicep circumference

Facial attractiveness had a slight correlation with mating success
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Height was negatively associated with mating success (despite woman saying they like it fir

masculine faces were negatively associated with mating success (despite women once again saying they like it for short term mating)

“as girth increased, men with lower facial and vocal masculinity became more attractive.” (WOMEN ARE RETARDER FUCKS)

“At the same time, these results appear incompatible with the apparent autonomy with which Western women choose their mates. One possibility is that female choice determines men's mating success, but women choose dominant men (i.e., men's attractiveness and dominance are functionally equivalent). However, women preferred different traits from those favored under male contests, and dominance rather than attractiveness predicted men's mating success. Another possibility is that women choose from among dominant men—that is, men's attractiveness and dominance posi- tively interact, so that the influence of attractiveness on mating success increases with increasing dominance.”

Results indicate that dominance and the traits associated with it predict men's mating success, but attractiveness and the traits associated with it do not. These findings point to the salience of contest competition on men's mating success in this population.

Basically women choose men based on muscles and dominance against other men

tldr:

“perhaps women choose differently than what they believe to be considered attractive”

frame, muscles and chest bicep circumference and lower facial masculinity was associated with mating sucess
(Gym

height was negatively associated with mating success ( despite wins saying they like it)
“social dominance was significant associated with mating success”
Loud arrogant muscular jock that are mean feared who escalate HARD who are usually 5’8 to 6’0 slay the most.

women may say what they like but ultimately the pussy decided who it’s wet for
 
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TLDR: “girth” was measured with frame, chest, back and bicep circumference

Facial attractiveness had a slight correlation with mating success
.
Height was negatively associated with mating success (despite woman saying they like it fir

masculine faces were negatively associated with mating success (despite women once again saying they like it for short term mating)

“as girth increased, men with lower facial and vocal masculinity became more attractive.” (WOMEN ARE RETARDER FUCKS)

“At the same time, these results appear incompatible with the apparent autonomy with which Western women choose their mates. One possibility is that female choice determines men's mating success, but women choose dominant men (i.e., men's attractiveness and dominance are functionally equivalent). However, women preferred different traits from those favored under male contests, and dominance rather than attractiveness predicted men's mating success. Another possibility is that women choose from among dominant men—that is, men's attractiveness and dominance posi- tively interact, so that the influence of attractiveness on mating success increases with increasing dominance.”

Results indicate that dominance and the traits associated with it predict men's mating success, but attractiveness and the traits associated with it do not. These findings point to the salience of contest competition on men's mating success in this population.

Basically women choose men based on muscles and dominance against other men

tldr:

“perhaps women choose differently than what they believe to be considered attractive”

frame, muscles and chest bicep circumference and lower facial masculinity was associated with mating sucess
(Gym

height was negatively associated with mating success ( despite wins saying they like it)
“social dominance was significant associated with mating success”
Loud arrogant muscular jock that are mean feared who escalate HARD who are usually 5’8 to 6’0 slay the most.
lifefuel if real because I unironically mog most men when it comes to dominance since I fightmaxxed hard
 
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Bump, this study crushed looks theory so Fucking hard
 
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Bump for looks theory faggots and height theory fuckers
 
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Just be a human chode
 
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Bump for looks theory faggots and height theory fuckers
dude how legit is this study? Are you seriously telling me my fightmaxxing was acc useful?
 
Cool, bro, but what has your experience shown?
 
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TLDR: Dick >>>>>>>>>>> Frame > Height
 
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height was negatively associated with mating success ( despite wins saying they like it)
“social dominance was significant associated with mating success”
Tall= social dominance jfl
 
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Bro, not fight maxing. Just bring a low inhib roided brute
I AM 5'5, THERE IS NO LOW INHIB ROIDED BRUTE MAXXING FOR ME
 
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intra-sexual selection vs inter-sexual selection
 
Kinda off topic, but what is the name of the girl in your avi?:dafuckfeels:
 
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Roided low inhib with huge frame who are cute AND dark triad 5’10-6ft guys slay more and pussy than ltr 6’5 male model guys
Volume to height ratio is every thing
 
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@LooksOverAll
@OldVirgin
 
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tldr just dont be lanklet like me
 
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height is irrelevant for sex appeal after 5'9. Moreover, the most attractive people were always in 5'9-5'10 range and good proportionated
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@subhuman incel
 
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height is irrelevant for sex appeal after 5'9. Moreover, the most attractive people were always in 5'9-5'10 range and good proportionated
Example:
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@subhuman incel
yea most manlets aren't usually strong and face and frame too so they cope with height
 
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Very interesting. Even before reading the study, I would already suspect that social dominance against other men is a very important factor.
 
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From the Study:

Participating fraternity members (male participants) were paid US$15, and participating sorority members (female participants) were paid US$10.
:ROFLMAO:
Fucking based black pill scientists. 🧑‍🔬:blackpill::blackpill:
 
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height is irrelevant for sex appeal after 5'9. Moreover, the most attractive people were always in 5'9-5'10 range and good proportionated
Example:
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@subhuman incel
Now imagine those faces but on a taller body. Higher appeal and SMV.
Taller >>>> shorter.
 
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height still matters hugely. a jacked 6'5 guy mogs a jacked 5'10 guy to absolute death.

but many clowns on this forum drastically underestimate the ideal physique muscularity

great job feeding the trolls!!

You don't even have to be jacked as a tall 6'5 guy. Look at Pete Davidson and Machine Gun Kelly
 
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You don't even have to be jacked as a tall 6'5 guy. Look at Pete Davidson and Machine Gun Kelly
it's only heihgt these schizos like to overcomplicate things

Face + Height
 
it's only heihgt these schizos like to overcomplicate things

Face + Height
I wouldn't say Pete Davidson and MGK have a good looking face. Just imagine their face on a 5'7-5'11 body...

Height is everything
 
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Good: 6'2 normie with average face
Better: Jacked, tan, tatted 5'10 looksmaxed guy
Best: That guy, but 6'2

There's a reason you see more jacked looksmaxed manlets than tall guys, and it's pretty obvious

Average tall normie gets first gf by 14, spends most of his teen years in relationships. By early 20s is already engaged, or even if he isn't has the confidence and experience with women where he doesn't really try that hard because he doesn't need to

Average manlet grows up with no gf and feels the sting. So while tall normie is eating sushi with gf, manlet is blasting steroids, melanotan 2, and buying fitted t-shirts. Eventually it pays off

But every now and then, you get a tall guy who just Chads out for no reason other than pure ego. This is your fitness model gigamogger type
 
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Average manlet grows up with no gf and feels the sting. So while tall normie is eating sushi with gf, manlet is blasting steroids, melanotan 2, and buying fitted t-shirts. Eventually it pays off

https://www.tga.gov.au/behind-news/beware-barbie-drug-dangers-using-melanotan
Side-effects include darkened skin, increased moles and freckles, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, flushing of the face, involuntary stretching and yawning, and spontaneous erections.
if you know what i mean eyebrow wiggle GIF
 
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BTW The conclusion of this study destroys the black pill.

The men women are more attracted to are not the men that have the most mating success. The men that have the most mating success are the ones that look like they could fuck up other men both in dominant face and body.

There's all kinds of possible explanations for this, but the study is on frat girls and frat guys. Physically dominant guys are more than likely at the top of the food chain in those college parties. I've seen it myself in a party, where a girl was not attracted to a muscular guy but went home with him anyways and no other guy was going to intervene. After she said he tried to rape her, who knows.

For women to be attracted to a muscular guy, he needs a softer face to makeup for it, but for her to go home with him from a drunk college party, he only needs to scare off competing males.
 
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Of course this is absolutely true. But do you know how rare this is. Guys who are 6’5 hood face and huge frame is absolutely rare too rare for it to be a factor for it is to even matter. And most tall guys are skinny and un proportional!
Women say that they don’t rather a tall 6’3 cute guy. I’m 5’11 and also very handsome but have huge muscles and frame and tattoos and every single one of their girls stared in awe at me and in clubs you’ll see the above average height guy with huge frame and dominance absolutely mog the tall delicate cute guy to death in dominance and slaying
 
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Good: 6'2 normie with average face
Better: Jacked, tan, tatted 5'10 looksmaxed guy
Best: That guy, but 6'2

There's a reason you see more jacked looksmaxed manlets than tall guys, and it's pretty obvious

Average tall normie gets first gf by 14, spends most of his teen years in relationships. By early 20s is already engaged, or even if he isn't has the confidence and experience with women where he doesn't really try that hard because he doesn't need to

Average manlet grows up with no gf and feels the sting. So while tall normie is eating sushi with gf, manlet is blasting steroids, melanotan 2, and buying fitted t-shirts. Eventually it pays off

But every now and then, you get a tall guy who just Chads out for no reason other than pure ego. This is your fitness model gigamogger type
True but that’s ambition to slay eventually pays off and all that attention they get from the Roids and muscles and ego boost gives them massive slays. The tall cute guy just remains soft you know. Scared to fight, scared or confrontation and if there’s anything other than being ugly that’s as bad to women is a guy who’s a pussy
 
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True but that’s ambition to slay eventually pays off and all that attention they get from the Roids and muscles and ego boost gives them massive slays. The tall cute guy just remains soft you know. Scared to fight, scared or confrontation and if there’s anything other than being ugly that’s as bad to women is a guy who’s a pussy
Agreed 100%
 
BTW The conclusion of this study destroys the black pill.

The men women are more attracted to are not the men that have the most mating success. The men that have the most mating success are the ones that look like they could fuck up other men both in dominant face and body.

There's all kinds of possible explanations for this, but the study is on frat girls and frat guys. Physically dominant guys are more than likely at the top of the food chain in those college parties. I've seen it myself in a party, where a girl was not attracted to a muscular guy but went home with him anyways and no other guy was going to intervene. After she said he tried to rape her, who knows.

For women to be attracted to a muscular guy, he needs a softer face to makeup for it, but for her to go home with him from a drunk college party, he only needs to scare off competing males.
Until I read about how this study defined facial masculinity I think it’s best to take this as frame>>>>>>>height pill
 
Until I read about how this study defined facial masculinity I think it’s best to take this as frame>>>>>>>height pill
The study defined it as having men look at different guys faces only and determine who would win in a fight.

It also validated this metric using another metric but I skimmed through that part. You're welcome to read it if you want.

But yes, exactly. The study concluded that on average the taller a guy is, the less partners he will have, because it will be harder for him to fill out his frame at the gym.

It doesn't mean it's over for tall guys, there are other factors.

But the most mind blowing thing about this study is that the men that women rate as less attractive for short term mating specifically, are more likely to have more partners and vice versa. Possible meaning women wind up sleeping with men they are not attracted to.
 
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5ft 9 pilled again. Its fucking overrrrrrrr
 
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fax. 5 5 is more ideal than 6+
 
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Is there even any way to take advantage of this info besides a brain transplant or injecting copious amount of testosterone enanthate.
 
tbh when i first read this thread it made me cry
just made me realize how much of lanky subhuman i am
would literally trade my 6/10 face to be 5'9-5'10 with good proportions

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Possible meaning women wind up sleeping with men they are not attracted to.
And here, you rediscovered something that only incels here refuse to admit :ROFLMAO:

Sexual battles have never been won by "pretty" faces... :ROFLMAO:

True man
 
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This doesn't make sense on so many levels.

Girth would be correlated to facial masculinity, as they are driven by the same, so how can girth be a positive kpi for ONS and facial masculinity be a negative one??

Also IMO it's the opposite, I am high attributes on girth, low attributes on height, yet I can get LTR easy as hell, but it would be impossible to get a girl to hook up with me
 
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Here we go with this moving the goal post shit
 
walked around in Leicester town central a month ago for my designer shopping, my observation was

looksmaxxed manlets (5"7 plus to 5"10) all had stacies whilst it was rarer to see taller men with girlfriends
 
If this is true then this will revolutionize looksmax.
 

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