Heightmax discussion: Vertebral vs. Long Bone closure from estrogen

[TeenAscender]

This is an area of heughtmaxxing completely untouched upon even in the glory days of Dyorotic2

We all know the mechanism of growth of the long bone is through malleable cartilage on the end of the bone that then turns into new bone called the epiphyseal plate

So common heightmaxxing knowledge tells us to take an aromatase inhibitor in order to block the lead factor of growth plate senescence: estrogen.

However there is no such malleable cartilage with a tangible start and end to its growth: the vertebrae.

The vertebrae is not classified as a “long bone” only the limb bones like the arms and the legs.

The vertebrae is described to not have any stage of “epiphyseal fusion” which is very confusing to me

An example of a patient with aromatase deficiency, he is very tall (6’6) but most of that height comes from his legs



Additionally something scary that potentiates an AI’s negative effect on vertebral height:
“We conclude that AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty may predispose to vertebral deformities, which probably reflect impaired vertebral body growth rather than impaired bone quality and compression fractures.”

So what is estradiol’s effect on vertebral height? I note that acromegalic patients have very large sitting heights, but that is from IGF 1 excess not aromatase deficiency, even though theoretically the two have similar effects

@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
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GANDY PLEASE RESPOND MY BROTHER WE NEED U AND UR KNOWLEDGE

@AscendingHero
@6foot2_17y0
@SexuallyAbusive
@Alibaba69
@FreakkForLife
@Bitchwhipper2

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[TeenAscender]

HENRY WHERE YOU AT

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

This is an area of heughtmaxxing completely untouched upon even in the glory days of Dyorotic2

We all know the mechanism of growth of the long bone is through malleable cartilage on the end of the bone that then turns into new bone called the epiphyseal plate
View attachment 1578362

So common heightmaxxing knowledge tells us to take an aromatase inhibitor in order to block the lead factor of growth plate senescence: estrogen.

However there is no such malleable cartilage with a tangible start and end to its growth: the vertebrae.

View attachment 1578372

The vertebrae is not classified as a “long bone” only the limb bones like the arms and the legs.

The vertebrae is described to not have any stage of “epiphyseal fusion” which is very confusing to me

View attachment 1578382
An example of a patient with aromatase deficiency, he is very tall (6’6) but most of that height comes from his legs



Additionally something scary that potentiates an AI’s negative effect on vertebral height:
“We conclude that AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty may predispose to vertebral deformities, which probably reflect impaired vertebral body growth rather than impaired bone quality and compression fractures.”

So what is estradiol’s effect on vertebral height? I note that acromegalic patients have very large sitting heights, but that is from IGF 1 excess not aromatase deficiency, even though theoretically the two have similar effects

@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
GANDY PLEASE RESPOND MY BROTHER WE NEED U AND UR KNOWLEDGE

@AscendingHero
@6foot2_17y0
@SexuallyAbusive
@Alibaba69
@FreakkForLife
@Bitchwhipper2

Tag more ppl yall

Don’t know much about this but.

On vertebral body growth - PubMed

We have studied development of vertebral bodies with special regard to the area of contact of the vertebral body with the intervertebral disc. We have investigated complete serial sections of fetuses of the 2nd to 3rd month of intrauterine life, microscopic preparations from children...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

1. Cartilaginous plates on contact surfaces of vertebral bodies with intervertebral discs are genetically parts of vertebral bodies, not of the discs. 2. During ontogenesis and growth period of life typical growth (epiphyseal) cartilages with all layers described on growth cartilages of long bones are formed on the surface of these cartilaginous plates facing the vertebral bodies. 3. From the point of view of its growth, the vertebral body should be considered to be a long bone. 4. Unlike other long bones of the skeleton, vertebral body epiphyses never ossify, and after the end of the growth period of life they are reduced into thin plates of hyaline cartilage which are situated between vertebral body and intervertebral disc

I wonder if E2 drives the Conversion into hyaline cartilage like in long bones it drives it into ossification.

I would say it does because low estrogen levels are associated with spinal disc damage possibly from a reduced hyaline cartilage presence

 

[Deleted member 4946]

This is an area of heughtmaxxing completely untouched upon even in the glory days of Dyorotic2

We all know the mechanism of growth of the long bone is through malleable cartilage on the end of the bone that then turns into new bone called the epiphyseal plate
View attachment 1578362

So common heightmaxxing knowledge tells us to take an aromatase inhibitor in order to block the lead factor of growth plate senescence: estrogen.

However there is no such malleable cartilage with a tangible start and end to its growth: the vertebrae.

View attachment 1578372

The vertebrae is not classified as a “long bone” only the limb bones like the arms and the legs.

The vertebrae is described to not have any stage of “epiphyseal fusion” which is very confusing to me

View attachment 1578382
An example of a patient with aromatase deficiency, he is very tall (6’6) but most of that height comes from his legs



Additionally something scary that potentiates an AI’s negative effect on vertebral height:
“We conclude that AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty may predispose to vertebral deformities, which probably reflect impaired vertebral body growth rather than impaired bone quality and compression fractures.”

So what is estradiol’s effect on vertebral height? I note that acromegalic patients have very large sitting heights, but that is from IGF 1 excess not aromatase deficiency, even though theoretically the two have similar effects

@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
@Henry_Gandy
GANDY PLEASE RESPOND MY BROTHER WE NEED U AND UR KNOWLEDGE

@AscendingHero
@6foot2_17y0
@SexuallyAbusive
@Alibaba69
@FreakkForLife
@Bitchwhipper2

Tag more ppl yall

we don't even know how the vertebrae grows, the only explanation is various different growth factors all acting upon it

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

we don't even know how the vertebrae grows, the only explanation is various different growth factors all acting upon it

me looking for who asked

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

@/data/avatars/s/4/4946.jpg?1625507724 @Henry_Gandy
@ /data/avatars/s/4/4946.jpg?1625507724 @Henry_Gandy
@ /data/avatars/s/4/4946.jpg?1625507724 @Henry_Gandy
@ /data/avatars/s/4/4946.jpg?1625507724 @Henry_Gandy
GANDY PLEASE RESPOND MY BROTHER WE NEED U AND UR KNOWLEDGE

not sure why ur even tagging that guy

this same retard unironically made a thread about bonesmashing ur heels to grow taller and said u could gain 3+ inches from it

also conjured some shitty height stack based off of a nigerian scammer named xcrunner that never worked for anybody

literal shit for brained monkey

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

not sure why ur even tagging that guy

this same retard unironically made a thread about bonesmashing ur heels to grow taller and said u could gain 3+ inches from it

also conjured some shitty height stack based off of a nigerian scammer named xcrunner that never worked for anybody

literal shit for brained monkey

Is heightmaxxing all a sham?

 

[TeenAscender]

Is heightmaxxing all a sham?

50/50, heightmaxxing isnt a sham if you consider 3-6cm gains on adult height starting from hard heightrmaxxing at 14, study after study shows it

but heightmaxxing might not even work for non short ppl and if it does, its not like its gonna be a night and day difference in the treatment u get from girls from being say 187cm vs 190cm

 

[TeenAscender]

tbh im gonna delete my account and lurk sounds like a good idea i know about everything i need to know tbh

 

[TeenAscender]

Is heightmaxxing all a sham?

no matter what height i end up im gettiing a 1 inch LL

 

[russwestbrook]

no matter what height i end up im gettiing a 1 inch LL

what have you got from heightmaxxing thus far

 

[TeenAscender]

@ht-normie-ascending do you have any knowledge on this?

 

[TeenAscender]

Not really. Do you have the link to the research paper? I’ve seen this touched upon but nothing close to conclusive.

no, i wish there was a research paper on estradiol effect on epiphyseal cartilage of the spine

@Henry_Gandy @ht-normie-ascending @AscendingHero I have an inversion table collecting dust in the garage, is there any use to using it at all (could it improve posture) or is it completely worthless and doesnt nothing in the context of posture

 

[AscendingHero]

no, i wish there was a research paper on estradiol effect on epiphyseal cartilage of the spine

@Henry_Gandy @ht-normie-ascending @AscendingHero I have an inversion table collecting dust in the garage, is there any use to using it at all (could it improve posture) or is it completely worthless and doesnt nothing in the context of posture

It's legit, go use it

Personally i havent used one but i've heard good things about it

@TheEndHasNoEnd

 

[AscendingHero]

GANDY PLEASE RESPOND MY BROTHER WE NEED U AND UR KNOWLEDGE

If only Mario would let me in that server, the knowledge I would have.....

@Henry_Gandy

 

[AscendingHero]

tbh im gonna delete my account and lurk sounds like a good idea i know about everything i need to know tbh

That is the epitome of abused dog+ retarded

Just delete your account but still rot here and miss out on all the perks of actually being registered on this site jfl

 

[TeenAscender]

That is the epitome of abused dog+ retarded

Just delete your account but still rot here and miss out on all the perks of actually being registered on this site jfl

it is a cost benefit analysis

sure be registered on this site and be able to ask questions while having an outlet to rot and shitpost

or

give urself a deadline to get as much info in order to eliminate mental masturbation while losing that ability to ask questions

ofc if i were to delete my acc i would remove myself the possibility to go on this site

im deleting my account in the next 3 years though thats for sure

 

[AscendingHero]

it is a cost benefit analysis

sure be registered on this site and be able to ask questions while having an outlet to rot and shitpost

or

give urself a deadline to get as much info in order to eliminate mental masturbation while losing that ability to ask questions

ofc if i were to delete my acc i would remove myself the possibility to go on this site

im deleting my account in the next 3 years though thats for sure

JFL just log out, imagine being so abused u can flee from the presence of incels

 

[TeenAscender]

JFL just log out, imagine being so abused u can flee from the presence of incels

so once youve ascended and have settled w ur gigastacy, u will still post on here with the intent of looksmaxxing even once you've maxxed out and know everything u need to know?

wdym being so abused which causes u to flee

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

It's legit, go use it

Personally i havent used one but i've heard good things about it

@TheEndHasNoEnd

jfl at that retard too

nigga literally SHRUNK, going from 5'6.67 to 5'6.4

march 2021:

sept 2021:

nice fucking "secret" height stack retards

 

[AscendingHero]

jfl at that retard too

nigga literally SHRUNK, going from 5'6.67 to 5'6.4

march 2021:
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sept 2021:
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nice fucking "secret" height stack retards

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@SexuallyAbusive what are you doing to looksmaxx, how has ur maxxing gone?

iirc you were very prominet on other psl forums and high iq asf

update me bro

 

[TeenAscender]

@SexuallyAbusive what are you doing to looksmaxx, how has ur maxxing gone?

iirc you were very prominet on other psl forums and high iq asf

update me bro

lmfao he does not give a shit probably

if im not mistaken he thinks heightmaxxing is complete cope

 

[TeenAscender]

@Alibaba69 where u at cuh

 

[AscendingHero]

@Alibaba69 where u at cuh

He ascended to 5'13+ by now tbh lol

and swim maxxed

brotha GONE!

 

[AscendingHero]

If only Mario would let me in that server, the knowledge I would have.....

@Henry_Gandy

Check @Henry_Gandy discord buyo

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

If only Mario would let me in that server, the knowledge I would have.....

@Henry_Gandy

trust me homie, you arent missing out on anything

@Alibaba69 and I completely fucking destroyed that server. its a literal ghost town now, I was just in there a few months ago

this is the exact same server full of copers that I exposed last year:

private heightmaxing stack leak (for closed growth plates)

so I've been getting asked about this stack for a while, and decided to finally post it here since I got banned from the heightmaxing discord for no reason. the stack is designed for people with closed growth plates, and the growth is localized. the first two people who supposedly got results...

looksmax.org

2 fucking years of heightmaxing research and 3 "secret stacks" later, nobody fucking grew. pretty sure the average height of everyone in that server is 5'6-5'7 max

oh btw, if you still think there's any "knowledge" that you're missing out on, I archived their entire server:


this shit is so fucking pathetic, lmao

 

[TeenAscender]

trust me homie, you arent missing out on anything

@Alibaba69 and I completely fucking destroyed that server. its a literal ghost town now, I was just in there a few months ago

this is the exact same server full of copers that I exposed last year:

private heightmaxing stack leak (for closed growth plates)

so I've been getting asked about this stack for a while, and decided to finally post it here since I got banned from the heightmaxing discord for no reason. the stack is designed for people with closed growth plates, and the growth is localized. the first two people who supposedly got results...

looksmax.org

2 fucking years of heightmaxing research and 3 "secret stacks" later, nobody fucking grew. pretty sure the average height of everyone in that server is 5'6-5'7 max
View attachment 1579916

oh btw, if you still think there's any "knowledge" that you're missing out on, I archived their entire server:

87.35 MB folder on MEGA

2 files

mega.nz

this shit is so fucking pathetic, lmao

GOAT

you hear that @AscendingHero ?

 

[AscendingHero]

trust me homie, you arent missing out on anything

@Alibaba69 and I completely fucking destroyed that server. its a literal ghost town now, I was just in there a few months ago

this is the exact same server full of copers that I exposed last year:

private heightmaxing stack leak (for closed growth plates)

so I've been getting asked about this stack for a while, and decided to finally post it here since I got banned from the heightmaxing discord for no reason. the stack is designed for people with closed growth plates, and the growth is localized. the first two people who supposedly got results...

looksmax.org

2 fucking years of heightmaxing research and 3 "secret stacks" later, nobody fucking grew. pretty sure the average height of everyone in that server is 5'6-5'7 max
View attachment 1579916

oh btw, if you still think there's any "knowledge" that you're missing out on, I archived their entire server:

87.35 MB folder on MEGA

2 files

mega.nz

this shit is so fucking pathetic, lmao

GOAT user, a true GOAT

mirin posts

 

[AscendingHero]

trust me homie, you arent missing out on anything

@Alibaba69 and I completely fucking destroyed that server. its a literal ghost town now, I was just in there a few months ago

this is the exact same server full of copers that I exposed last year:

private heightmaxing stack leak (for closed growth plates)

so I've been getting asked about this stack for a while, and decided to finally post it here since I got banned from the heightmaxing discord for no reason. the stack is designed for people with closed growth plates, and the growth is localized. the first two people who supposedly got results...

looksmax.org

2 fucking years of heightmaxing research and 3 "secret stacks" later, nobody fucking grew. pretty sure the average height of everyone in that server is 5'6-5'7 max
View attachment 1579916

oh btw, if you still think there's any "knowledge" that you're missing out on, I archived their entire server:

87.35 MB folder on MEGA

2 files

mega.nz

this shit is so fucking pathetic, lmao

My nigga why did u block me on discord lmao sorry for the redundant questions, just wondering if you were alive

Wait are you referring to the server with mario and all them?

views on bmn and ky?

 

[AscendingHero]

trust me homie, you arent missing out on anything

@Alibaba69 and I completely fucking destroyed that server. its a literal ghost town now, I was just in there a few months ago

this is the exact same server full of copers that I exposed last year:

private heightmaxing stack leak (for closed growth plates)

so I've been getting asked about this stack for a while, and decided to finally post it here since I got banned from the heightmaxing discord for no reason. the stack is designed for people with closed growth plates, and the growth is localized. the first two people who supposedly got results...

looksmax.org

2 fucking years of heightmaxing research and 3 "secret stacks" later, nobody fucking grew. pretty sure the average height of everyone in that server is 5'6-5'7 max
View attachment 1579916

oh btw, if you still think there's any "knowledge" that you're missing out on, I archived their entire server:

87.35 MB folder on MEGA

2 files

mega.nz

this shit is so fucking pathetic, lmao

GTFINH @Henry_Gandy

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

My nigga why did u block me on discord lmao sorry for the redundant questions, just wondering if you were alive

Wait are you referring to the server with mario and all them?

views on bmn and ky?

lmfao was that you? thought it was just some random fucking retard. sorry I blocked u I just get these kinds of messages all the time. shit gets on my fucking nerves

btw the shit about me increasing my clavicles by drinking raw milk was just me fucking around. me and my boy were going around gaslighting people telling them retarded shit like raw milk, mewing and bonesmashing worked

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

views on bmn and ky?

both cope, never worked for anyone. never will.

 

[TeenAscender]

lmfao was that you? thought it was just some random fucking retard. sorry I blocked u I just get these kinds of messages all the time. shit gets on my fucking nerves

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btw the shit about me increasing my clavicles by drinking raw milk was just me fucking around. me and my boy were going around gaslighting people telling them retarded shit like raw milk, mewing and bonesmashing worked

im gonna make a vc with you, @Henry_Gandy and @AscendingHero right now

 

[AscendingHero]

both cope, never worked for anyone. never will.

Lmao @Henry_Gandy got something to say

Also unban me im Zizou#8602 , you blocked me saying 'blocked retard" lmfao caged hard, chill man, unblock me

@SexuallyAbusive

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

Lmao @Henry_Gandy got something to say

Also unban me im Zizou#8602 , you blocked me saying 'blocked retard" lmfao caged hard, chill man, unblock me

@SexuallyAbusive

idk why you keep tagging that shitskin

we literally kicked him out of the heightmaxing discord because he was so fucking unbearably retarded

nigga really sat there with a straight face and told people to bonesmash their fucking heels to grow taller

 

[Deleted member 4946]

Lmao @Henry_Gandy got something to say

Also unban me im Zizou#8602 , you blocked me saying 'blocked retard" lmfao caged hard, chill man, unblock me

@SexuallyAbusive

noone's tried bmn, only one is trying KY but we already know the results will only impact final height

 

[AscendingHero]

noone's tried bmn, only one is trying KY but we already know the results will only impact final height

You plan on trying bmn+ ky right? please tell me ur resutls on it, when do u plan on running it?

 

[lonelycurry]

idk why you keep tagging that shitskin

we literally kicked him out of the heightmaxing discord because he was so fucking unbearably retarded

nigga really sat there with a straight face and told people to bonesmash their fucking heels to grow taller
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sendd discord

 

[Deleted member 4946]

You plan on trying bmn+ ky right? please tell me ur resutls on it, when do u plan on running it?

KY, later this year BMN-111 like really late this year or next year

 

[FreakkForLife]

KY, later this year BMN-111 like really late this year or next year

Isnt vosotoride expensive?
I have read that 1 vial goes for 900$
Also,is Si wu Tang extract legit for pi3k and height?

 

[Deleted member 15302]

no matter what height i end up im gettiing a 1 inch LL

y

 

[FreakkForLife]

no matter what height i end up im gettiing a 1 inch LL

What's ur discord ID?

 

[TeenAscender]

bump, any of yall mothafuckas know how estrogen effects vertebral growth plates?

 

[FreakkForLife]

bump, any of yall mothafuckas know how estrogen effects vertebral growth plates?

Vertebral growth plates are actually rings of epiphysis also called as epiphyseal rings,these rings are present on either side of each vertebral bone,these rings are cartilaganeous and divide and add length by to vertebral bones,this is how vertebral bones grow.

Slowly,estrogen acts on these bones and causes the fusion of these rings with the vertebral body thus eliminating their distinct identity thus removing any potential prospects of growth in spine.

 

[Cope>rope]

You plan on trying bmn+ ky right? please tell me ur resutls on it, when do u plan on running it?

What’s bmn and ky?

 

[FreakkForLife]

What’s bmn and ky?

Bmn111 is vosotoride And cGMP agonist and ky is ky19382,a cxxc5 Inhibitor,no need to get into that,hgh+igf1 lr3 would make u talelr if ur plates are open

 

[Growth Plate]

An example of a patient with aromatase deficiency, he is very tall (6’6) but most of that height comes from his legs

He literally has the same exact proportions as me

Obviously there is something wrong with me. Even the males shorter than me in my family have longer torsos + every adult female in my family have longer torsos than me. I never seen anyone else that literally gets torsomogged by every adult female in his family. That's just ridiculous