Hell is abrahamic religions is straight up extremely infinitely cruel

[TsarTsar444]

Srs, i think people just don't really realize how hell is described in Christianity and Islam, how can God burn a person alive for INFINITY for finite sins. Not only is it INFINITY which is bad as it is, but burning of all things, the most painful feeling a human body can have, and imagine that forever. It gets much much worse when you know that in abrahamic religions you legit just go to be burned in hell and tortured with severe eternal pain for simply not believing in a God.

For example you can be a very good person, give money to the poor, help people, be kind, never harm anybody, but you will end up being burned for just not believing in God...FOREVER. While a religious person can do actual terrible things, and henious crimes, be a trash of a human, but as long as he repents, believes in God and does the religious duties he will go to Heaven in eternal pleasure.

 

[Enfant terrible]

Obviously it's that way to invoke fear in people so they follow their religion.

 

[Deleted member 15129]

In islam its finite. It's said that Satan will be the last one to leave hell and come to heaven after repenting

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Repent.

 

[CFW432]

In islam its finite. It's said that Satan will be the last one to leave hell and come to heaven after repenting

Satan didn't do anything wrong. He was right, humans are inferior to jinn. Fire does burn earth. He was also right about how the humans would do nothing but bring death and destruction and despair to the world, which humans HAVE done since the beginning of our existence. God is just a manbaby that didn't like the fact that one of his creations tried to correct a mistake he was making, and sent him to hell for questioning his actions.

 

[Deleted member 15129]

Satan didn't do anything wrong. He was right, humans are inferior to jinn. Fire does burn earth. He was also right about how the humans would do nothing but bring death and destruction and despair to the world, which humans HAVE done since the beginning of our existence. God is just a manbaby that didn't like the fact that one of his creations tried to correct a mistake he was making, and sent him to hell for questioning his actions.

If god is real hes a faggot tbh

 

[Deleted member 13462]

For example you can be a very good person, give money to the poor, help people, be kind, never harm anybody, but you will end up being burned for just not believing in God...FOREVER. While a religious person can do actual terrible things, and henious crimes, be a trash of a human, but as long as he repents, believes in God and does the religious duties he will go to Heaven in eternal pleasure.

Not true at all
Theres a story in islam which says that a prozy somone who sells there body gave water to a dying dog and went heavven for her actions

 

[Deleted member 13462]

Satan didn't do anything wrong. He was right, humans are inferior to jinn. Fire does burn earth. He was also right about how the humans would do nothing but bring death and destruction and despair to the world, which humans HAVE done since the beginning of our existence. God is just a manbaby that didn't like the fact that one of his creations tried to correct a mistake he was making, and sent him to hell for questioning his actions.

so u beileve in god and still show no respect how does that even make sense

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

It depends on a lot of factors, in Islam it is prohibited to say "such and such will go to heaven or hell" except for like Prophets (alayhim a salat wa salam). All we know is that in Judgement Day everyone will 100% accept that whatever threw him in paradise is deserved and whatever threw him in hell is deserved.

To more or less put it on a "just" mindset for a materialistic worldview, if one was ignorant about Islam he will Insha Allah be forgiven, this is based on the verse 'And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).' [al-Israa 17:15].

There are other exceptions like dying before puberty as based in these two hadiths. according to a narration from the Prophet: "The Prophet is in paradise, the martyrs are in paradise, the children who die are in paradise, and the infant buried alive is in paradise" (The last one refers to an ancient arabic practice against female infants which the Prophet condemned and prohibited).

On a different narration it is reported that he said: “By the One in whose hand is my soul, the miscarried fetus will carry his mother by his umbilical cord into Paradise, if she was seeking its reward.”

People who possess mental illnesses like Alzheimer and the likes have also clear advantages, as based on this hadith: Ali ibn Abi Talib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The pen is lifted from three people: a sleeping person until he awakens, a child until he becomes an adult, and an insane person until he regains his sanity.”

Some other people like the ones who are deaf will be tested after this life.

In judeochristianity there is difference of opinion depending on the denominations.

But yes, there lies no doubt that hell is not a walk in the park for those who had no proper excuse to reject The Creator, matter of fact Jahannam will be very harsh, more than anything. With that being said as i commented, we can't say such and such will go to paradise or hell in Islam since the decision is with Allah.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

There is nothing after death

 

[CFW432]

If god is real hes a faggot tbh

In the quran after satan's diatribe about what humans will do, god's only response is "you know not, what i know" . JFL i wonder what god thinks us humans will do that is so goddang glorious and holy, that all the thousands of years that humans waged war, raped, enslaved and genocided each other, ruined the climate of the earth and our environment, will have been worth it.

 

[Deleted member 13462]

If god is real hes a faggot tbh

says the guy with anime pfp

 

[Entschuldigung]

What's up with all the teenage tier threads about religion today?

 

[Deleted member 13462]

There is nothing after death

just like u beilve atoms came out of notwhere XD lol

 

[CFW432]

so u beileve in god and still show no respect how does that even make sense

JFL i dont believe in god anymore JFL. I haven't been apart of religion for over 6 years now. I just remember all my religious teachings from when i was a child.

 

[Deleted member 15129]

says the guy with anime pfp

I will rape u then god tbh. Then I'll save a dying dog and go to heaven

 

[Deleted member 13462]

In the quran after satan's diatribe about what humans will do, god's only response is "you know not, what i know" . JFL i wonder what god thinks us humans will do that is so goddang glorious and holy, that all the thousands of years that humans waged war, raped, enslaved and genocided each other, ruined the climate of the earth and our environment, will have been worth it.

Dont think u realse god doesnt care about the earth the earth is small to him

 

[Deleted member 13462]

I will rape u then god tbh. Then I'll save a dying dog and go to heaven

To bad some actions cant be forgvien by god

 

[CFW432]

Dont think u realse god doesnt care about the earth the earth is small to him

JFL but god explicitly states in the quran that it is haram to destroy his creations, the earth obviously being one of them. He doesn't have to care about the earth in particular, but he should clearly care about what humans are doing to it, and what humans are doing ON it, if he is a... "being" of his word.

 

[Deleted member 15129]

To bad some actions cant be forgvien by god

why did god make u so subhuman then? muh "it is all a test"

 

[Deleted member 1476]

just like u beilve atoms came out of notwhere XD lol

@BlackBoyo invented atoms

 

[Deleted member 13462]

why did god make u so subhuman then? muh "it is all a test"

I aint no subhuman lol i just came on this fourm to get advice on haricuts and stuff u guys asking advice on how to talk and make friends is so cringy but i let it slide and dont say stuff beacsue its nothink good to say u guys make me cringe so much it acutally makes me luagh

 

[Deleted member 13462]

JFL but god explicitly states in the quran that it is haram to destroy his creations, the earth obviously being one of them. He doesn't have to care about the earth in particular, but he should clearly care about what humans are doing to it, and what humans are doing ON it, if he is a... "being" of his word.

show the verse

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

In the quran after satan's diatribe about what humans will do, god's only response is "you know not, what i know" . JFL i wonder what god thinks us humans will do that is so goddang glorious and holy, that all the thousands of years that humans waged war, raped, enslaved and genocided each other, ruined the climate of the earth and our environment, will have been worth it.

You are more or less raising "The Problem of Evil"

I.e anthropomorphise God and turn Him into a limited man. In this argument it assumed that God must see things the way we see things, and therefore He should stop the evil. If He allows it to continue, He must be questioned and rejected.

The verse you raised answers the Problem of Evil on a way that everyone would understand it, which is that Allah has the entire picture and the wisdom behind it, while we just have a pixel and we perceive it on a certain manner.

A key objection that usually follows is “but God could create a world without suffering”. This contention is just a repackaging of the original argument; in other words, "why has God allowed evil and suffering to exist? Therefore, the same answer applies; Divine wisdom. The one who makes this objection does so because they cannot understand why there is evil and suffering in the first place, and they believe that a merciful and powerful God should prevent every evil and suffering. Nevertheless, this has already been addressed.

 

[Pumanator]

Obviously it's that way to invoke fear in people so they follow their religion.

You gave the most short and based answer there is and no one replays to your 10/10 argument jfl.

If religion was truly about peace then doing good behaviour would be more rewarded then believing in someone. Sounds like believing in someone is more important then good deeds hmmm. Perhaps religion is about someone getting power and brainwashing people hmmm.
Perhaps the world was just as peaceful whatever religion or non religion people had hmmm.

 

[Deleted member 13462]

in Islam iit says that the people of heaven will see the people who got into one heavven above them and say i wish my skin was cut into bits in the wordly life to get to where he is above me

So to say that we understand the whole picture is just wrong to try and use our logic and try justfy why god created evil is just abusred

secondly if u dont beilve in god how u beilve in morals that doesnt make sense u cant justifiy ur morals as somone who doesnt beilve in god u only have preference that cant be right or wrong as it choice and atoms transfer no
Wrong choice or bad its just ur prefernce
so who are u to say that god made good or bad

 

[CFW432]

show the verse

Environmental Sustainability in Islam | EcoMENA

Islam has a rich tradition of highlighting the importance of environmental protection. Read on to know more about environmental sustainability in Islam.

www.ecomena.org

“And Allah loveth not those who do mischief” (Surat Al Ma’eda, verse 64)

“And do no mischief on the earth after it has been set in order: that will be best for you, if ye have Faith” (Surat Al A’raf, ‘the Heights’, verse 85)

Eat and drink: But waste not by excess, for Allah loveth not the wasters (Surat Al-A’raf 7: 31).

“And do good as Allah has been good to you. And do not seek to cause corruption in the earth. Allah does not love the corrupters”, (Surat Al Qasas 28:77)

“Children of Adam, dress well whenever you are at worship, and eat and drink (as we have permitted) but do not be extravagant: God does not like extravagant people.” (Surat Al-A’raf 7:31)

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) clearly forbade destruction of trees and crops even during war times as long as their existence remains advantageous to the enemy. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) gave high degree of importance towards sustainable cultivation of land, waste minimization, humane treatment of animals, preservation of natural resources and protection of wildlife. Some of the sayings of Prophet bless and Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) on environmental sustainability are:


“The world is beautiful and verdant, and verily God, be He exalted, has made you His stewards in it, and He sees how you acquit yourselves.” (Muslim)

“If a Muslim plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, it is regarded as a charitable gift (sadaqah) for him.” (Bukhari)

“Whoever plants a tree and diligently looks after it until it matures and bears fruit is rewarded,” (Musnad)

 

[fukmylyf]

adrenaline kicks in after the first few minutes so u dont feel anything

 

[Deleted member 13462]

Environmental Sustainability in Islam | EcoMENA

Islam has a rich tradition of highlighting the importance of environmental protection. Read on to know more about environmental sustainability in Islam.

www.ecomena.org

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) clearly forbade destruction of trees and crops even during war times as long as their existence remains advantageous to the enemy. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) gave high degree of importance towards sustainable cultivation of land, waste minimization, humane treatment of animals, preservation of natural resources and protection of wildlife. Some of the sayings of Prophet bless and Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) on environmental sustainability are:


“The world is beautiful and verdant, and verily God, be He exalted, has made you His stewards in it, and He sees how you acquit yourselves.” (Muslim)

“If a Muslim plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, it is regarded as a charitable gift (sadaqah) for him.” (Bukhari)

“Whoever plants a tree and diligently looks after it until it matures and bears fruit is rewarded,” (Musnad)

How does this disprove that the earth is small to him i can pull up verse which prove my point

yes god doesnt like humans who cause mischeif and break other peoples lands and homes that doesnt mean that the earth isnt small

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Environmental Sustainability in Islam | EcoMENA

Islam has a rich tradition of highlighting the importance of environmental protection. Read on to know more about environmental sustainability in Islam.

www.ecomena.org

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) clearly forbade destruction of trees and crops even during war times as long as their existence remains advantageous to the enemy. The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) gave high degree of importance towards sustainable cultivation of land, waste minimization, humane treatment of animals, preservation of natural resources and protection of wildlife. Some of the sayings of Prophet bless and Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) on environmental sustainability are:


“The world is beautiful and verdant, and verily God, be He exalted, has made you His stewards in it, and He sees how you acquit yourselves.” (Muslim)

“If a Muslim plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, it is regarded as a charitable gift (sadaqah) for him.” (Bukhari)

“Whoever plants a tree and diligently looks after it until it matures and bears fruit is rewarded,” (Musnad)

This is true. The brother cracka commited a mistake, no problem at all for him Insha Allah he will improve.

Allah says clearly (interpretation of the meaning) "And We created not the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in play."

 

[TsarTsar444]

Not true at all
Theres a story in islam which says that a prozy somone who sells there body gave water to a dying dog and went heavven for her actions

Then she at least had to be muslim, but as far as i know thats punished in Islam, so she wouldn't be muslim therefore she would be in hell forever. That verse is contradictory to the Quran where it says non believers are eternally in hell

 

[Tony]

@lutte come here i legit didnt read a single pixel. Came straight down here to tag u bro and i fuck tsertser in the esshole

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Then she at least had to be muslim, but as far as i know thats punished in Islam, so she wouldn't be muslim therefore she would be in hell forever. That verse is contradictory to the Quran where it says non believers are eternally in hell

Prostitution is a grave sin with physical punishment but not kufr, let alone the fact that she was prior to the Prophet (alayhi a salat wa salam) therefore there were different laws in place, or maybe the ruling of her being ignorant was applied, etc

 

[Deleted member 13462]

Quran where it says non believers are eternally in hell

show the verse

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

show the verse

(Interpretation of the meaning) 'Allah has promised the fire of Jahannam to the hypocrites, men and women, and to the disbelievers who shall live there forever. It is adequate for them. Allah has put His curse on them, and for them there is a lasting punishment.'

 

[Deleted member 13462]

Quran where it says non believers are eternally in hell

Whats ur point?

 

[Deleted member 8853]

Srs, i think people just don't really realize how hell is described in Christianity and Islam, how can God burn a person alive for INFINITY for finite sins. Not only is it INFINITY which is bad as it is, but burning of all things, the most painful feeling a human body can have, and imagine that forever. It gets much much worse when you know that in abrahamic religions you legit just go to be burned in hell and tortured with severe eternal pain for simply not believing in a God.

For example you can be a very good person, give money to the poor, help people, be kind, never harm anybody, but you will end up being burned for just not believing in God...FOREVER. While a religious person can do actual terrible things, and henious crimes, be a trash of a human, but as long as he repents, believes in God and does the religious duties he will go to Heaven in eternal pleasure.

Why not.
Think of the pain they did to us incels.
They deserved it smh

 

[TsarTsar444]

Prostitution is a grave sin with physical punishment but not kufr, let alone the fact that she was prior to the Prophet (alayhi a salat wa salam) therefore there were different laws in place, or maybe the ruling of her being ignorant was applied, etc

So that verse contradicts the Quran

 

[TsarTsar444]

Whats ur point?

God sounds infinitely evil to me if he would punish someone for not believing but a mass murderer, rapist, thief that believes will go to heaven

 

[Deleted member 13462]

Why not.
Think of the pain they did to us incels.
They deserved it smh

what is wrong just cause ur an incel doesnt mean we are

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

So that verse contradicts the Quran

No, i explained previously up there, too many different possible circumstances.

 

[Deleted member 13462]

So that verse contradicts the Quran

write out both verse that contradict the quran

 

[Baldingman1998]

Which is why religion is bs.

"Believe in my IMAGENARY friend or you will suffer forever"

 

[TsarTsar444]

No, i explained previously up there, too many different possible circumstances.

Explain again pls, i didn't understand your post

 

[Deleted member 8244]

i don’t think so, because God forgives people who are like actually crazy, or they might not be sentient. But that’s why Christians are encouraged to be forgiving, so the sinner can not be subjected to this fate

 

[Deleted member 6695]

We have free will, God sends nobody by choice. Hell was supposed to only be for demons. And God promised to keep free will

 

[lutte]

Which is why religion is bs.

"Believe in my IMAGENARY friend or you will suffer forever"

Ok murtad

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Explain again pls, i didn't understand your post

Perhaps she believed in God and was an extreme sinner in regards to prostitution (which is not kufr, but has a physical punishment), perhaps the ruling of a messenger not reaching her was applied to her, etc, etc, etc, too many alternatives.

 

[Baldingman1998]

Ok murtad

How many times have you eaten pork?

 

[CFW432]

How does this disprove that the earth is small to him i can pull up verse which prove my point

yes god doesnt like humans who cause mischeif and break other peoples lands and homes that doesnt mean that the earth isnt small

Again like i said, he doesn't have to care about the earth individually, but he should care about all the negative things that humans do to it, and to one another while living on it. If he says he does care like he does in his holy books, he clearly doesn't care enough to do anything to stop it. I have yet to see any divine intervention in my lifetime, no godrays descending from the clouds, with his holy messiah coming down to stop all the grief in the world. Again the point, is that god is not doing anything, when he says that he will. How fucking convenient that those who commit transgressions in this life, will only be punished in the "afterlife", away from our prying living mortal eyes, you know, i actually wouldn't mind seeing some of the most evil people to have ever lived being crucified and then set on fire right in front of me. Unfortunately that will never happen, im just going to have to "bELiEVE" that its going to happen to them in some fantasty "afterlife", after they stop breathing in this one.