Help for 40 year old male , could I be high tier normie?

[ugly nebula]

Decent eyes and decent midface. Bad lower jaw. Hop on roids and get shredded and also hop on fin. If u wanna take it further get a lower jaw implant

 

[RichmondBread]

You have a huge frame and look better than I would expect a 235 lbs 5'10.5" man to look, but you do look fat in that pic, I would say 20 lbs overweight there, you are clearly sucking your gut in big time. You were a lot younger then, unless you are working out frequently and start HRT you will never again achieve that body. I would say a good weight for you now would be 200.

It was only 4 years ago

 

[Julian]

@RichmondBread Bro you are being delusional as fuck. Also that rating scale is absolutely fucked jeff seid isnt even compareable to these other dudes and the 1-5 are all a 1. You HONESTLY think there are women out there being 27-33 year old that have GOOD bodies that want a dude like you honestly bro you are being delusional as fuck. You're REALLY overestimating yourself, reminder you're 40 already.
Btw this is jeff seid in case youre wondering

 

[RichmondBread]

No I am not a woman. I'm not saying you can't date a woman who's 30. I'm pointing out your hypocrisy on how you state that age isn't a 'big deal', when you ironically want a woman who's younger and healthier than you. The fact that you're talking about women having shit eggs after a certain age, goes to show that age is in fact a big deal.

Only in terms of baby making. It is more ideal for the woman to be younger. There is a fact. And 30 is not a big age gap. Really, after 25 it's two full grown adults.

@RichmondBread Bro you are being delusional as fuck. Also that rating scale is absolutely fucked jeff seid isnt even compareable to these other dudes and the 1-5 are all a 1. You HONESTLY think there are women out there being 27-33 year old that have GOOD bodies that want a dude like you honestly bro you are being delusional as fuck. You're REALLY overestimating yourself, reminder you're 40 already.
Btw this is jeff seid in case youre wondering
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He isn't me and that isn't my goal. I just want to be high end of normal. He is model or something. That wasn't my intention to look like a model. I'm not delusional.

 

[Julian]

Only in terms of baby making. It is more ideal for the woman to be younger. There is a fact. And 30 is not a big age gap. Really, after 25 it's two full grown adults.

Yeah, a 16-year-old girl can get pregnant from an 80-year-old man. But a 16-year-old boy won't be able to make a 80-year-old woman pregnant wtf is this logic.

You might want a young woman but why would a young good-looking woman not choose another YOUNG dude? Especially considering how many chads there are nowadays

 

[FatJattMofo]

I genuinely think a chad is hiding under your fat

 

[OldRooster]

@RichmondBread Bro you are being delusional as fuck. Also that rating scale is absolutely fucked jeff seid isnt even compareable to these other dudes and the 1-5 are all a 1. You HONESTLY think there are women out there being 27-33 year old that have GOOD bodies that want a dude like you honestly bro you are being delusional as fuck. You're REALLY overestimating yourself, reminder you're 40 already.
Btw this is jeff seid in case youre wondering
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Only in terms of baby making. It is more ideal for the woman to be younger. There is a fact. And 30 is not a big age gap. Really, after 25 it's two full grown adults.

He isn't me and that isn't my goal. I just want to be high end of normal. He is model or something. That wasn't my intention to look like a model. I'm not delusional.

just stop arguing with them about age. This site is mostly guys in their early 20s that see older men dating younger women as a threat and it triggers them.

 

[Julian]

just stop arguing with them about age. This site is mostly guys in their early 20s that see older men dating younger women as a threat and it triggers them.

An old dude being a threat to me as an 18 yo, yeah right

 

[RichmondBread]

I know it's the exception, I can't even remember my original post but the point was to say males can be fathers at 15. Well biologically at least. Yes my point the whole time has been time that is why I keep mentioning your age and why I said the weight loss will take a while and you should start now and be disciplined, By your answers I know you have never been close to 14% You are the same height as me, and I am 181cms exactly, I know exactly what it takes to get to a certain gols and have done it numerous times. Do you actually believe in that photo if you cut to sub 10% bodyfat you would look anything like an amataure natural bodybuilder? who devote everything to the goal and might have even used substances before? at 15% bodyfat you should be able to see ab definition if you are carrying a bit of muscle let alone as much as you claim.

At 40 you will never peak physically, you might get in the best shape you have ever been in but the ceiling for what is possible is limited. Like holy shit, have you read what I wrote? what parts do you disagree with? I bet if I told you that the first few days of dieting at 235 you would probably lose 5lbs from food and glyocogen alone. Then you would probably end up losing a ratio of muscle for every lb of fat you burn therby taking your target goal leaner. Seriously If you did everything perfectly and you won't and don't know how to you would weight 170 lbs at 14% at best.
Edit* In the peak photo you are Overweight FAT very FAT, go post on T nation ffs what a perma bulker.

I have a Germanic build. Im not talking about "peak", I just want to get in decent shape. Why must you be such a nihilist about everything? Are you trying to make me give up on life? I'm not a professional body builder and I'm not a model! My question was could I be a high end normal Not a Chad like you. Sorry I bothered.

An old dude being a threat to me as an 18 yo, yeah right

I'm not old really. . It's like I'm cusp of mid life. Don't be so negative. I wish you well in life . Please do the same for me.

 

[BigBiceps]

I am a 40 year old male looking to date (Christian) women again and I not sure what I can do, but I don't think I am looks maxed. Right now I feel that I am a 5, but I think I could go as high as 7 max. Here are few pics. Could I be high tier normie (high end average attractive?)

Note: here are my obvious flaws:
1.overweight: working on that
2.no mpb but diffuse thinning (taking something for it)
3.Only 5'10.5 (without shoes) but 6 ft in cowboy boots.


What would be max potential for me? I dress Countrypolitan and Prep most of the time.

1 Most .Recent hair cut

2. Casual Dress

I've lost weight since this picture, but I am very obese here

When I was a bit thinner in a suit:

I'm all open for suggestions!

Yeah you're about 5/10 rn considering your age. People here rating you 3/10 are comparing you to 20 yr old models, they don't know shit. You should take up gym along with the weight loss process. Btw, don't use those top 2 pictures in any matter, they're horrible. Especially that second picture with ''casual dress'', it looks so photoshopped and weird.

 

[RichmondBread]

Yeah, a 16-year-old girl can get pregnant from an 80-year-old man. But a 16-year-old boy won't be able to make a 80-year-old woman pregnant wtf is this logic.

You might want a young woman but why would a young good-looking woman not choose another YOUNG dude? Especially considering how many chads there are nowadays

Because she's a nice church going gal who wants personality as well as common interests.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Before rating, and your personal based rating + suggestions.
Anti-aging activities, is smart to do if you don't want your looks to go down alot. Because it happens for most guys in their 40's.
Them Anti-aging activities are for example: callogen activities for skin (such as: moisterizing well, sunblock, retinol, retin-A (0.025), dermaroller, fillers). Staying healthy overal, one needs to sport regularly and eat well (the body isn't as forgiving on not doing this right, as we get older). Hair loss prevention (unless you grow bald like "the Rock", but looking at your face shapr I think you won't go beautifull bald) with things like: finastride, dermaroller, minoxidill.

Could I be high tier normie (high end average attractive?)

Note: here are my obvious flaws:
1.overweight: working on that
2.no mpb but diffuse thinning (taking something for it)
3.Only 5'10.5 (without shoes) but 6 ft in cowboy boots.


What would be max potential for me? I dress Countrypolitan and Prep most of the time.

I'm all open for suggestions!

I dunno if you could become a high tier normie, for your age you maybe could actually become one.

Your cheeckbones are really high and present?? (it's hard to see due to face-fat) If so, that's really a good/great feature to have.

Obviously, you need to lose fat.

I would suggest the following, besides pre-mentioned:
1. stubble or maybe small beard. This depends on you facial hair growth if you can do (options are pepermint and minoxidill foor faster or more growth). Because you don't have a great chin width (and jawline) and kinda baby faced. It will add the needed masculinity perception. (see the data on this matter: https://looksmax.org/threads/the-research-on-facial-hair-moustache-beard-stubles.70183/ )
2.

 

[Julian]

Because she's a nice church going gal who wants personality as well as common interests.

I'm not saying I don't wish you good things, I'm saying this is being too bluepilled. Women don't choose you because of a "nice personality" they go for looks. If you would lose bodyfat. Get a GOOD haircut yeah it CAN matter and maybe grow a beard I'm pretty sure you can be average. It's just gonna take time. Also if you wanna look younger(You will never have the prettyboy pheno) but don't forget to take care of your skin.

 

[BigBiceps]

You might want a young woman but why would a young good-looking woman not choose another YOUNG dude? Especially considering how many chads there are nowadays

There exists a fetish for older men among young women just as there is the milf fetish. Also older men have more capital, so there definetely are some younger women looking to date older men if they've got the resources. (house, car, etc.)

 

[Julian]

There exists a fetish for older men among young women just as there is the milf fetish. Also older men have more capital, so there definetely are some younger women looking to date older men if they've got the resources. (house, car, etc.)

Of course but its not like all women have that. Also not sure how much $$$ OP has if he's kinda rich he could run the golddigger game but it seems like he wants a wife that loves him not his money.

 

[Pu33]

just stop arguing with them about age. This site is mostly guys in their early 20s that see older men dating younger women as a threat and it triggers them.

Not even close, I literally just finished having sex with my gf, my point about his age is that he isn't young and should start dieting and getting in shape now, I mean fuck he dosn't even have to and could find a women, I have seen plenty of women with older, fat or just ugly men which I might work for him since he wants a LTR and not to slay. Getting in shape will only help him in his effort, he is 40 and out of shape, how long will it take to meet a younger women, date her and get to the point of having children? what if he wastes 5 years with her, is he meant to start again at 45? Look at my avi ffs I clearly don't have a problem with age im just being honest with him.

 

[RichmondBread]

I'm not saying I don't wish you good things, I'm saying this is being too bluepilled. Women don't choose you because of a "nice personality" they go for looks. If you would lose bodyfat. Get a GOOD haircut yeah it CAN matter and maybe grow a beard I'm pretty sure you can be average. It's just gonna take time. Also if you wanna look younger(You will never have the prettyboy pheno) but don't forget to take care of your skin.

There exists a fetish for older men among young women just as there is the milf fetish. Also older men have more capital, so there definetely are some younger women looking to date older men if they've got the resources. (house, car, etc.)

It's not a fetish if I date a woman in her 30s, as I am barely in my 40s.

 

[عبد الرحمن]

Drop down to 20-12% bodyfat, 40 years old isn't even that old, you could have a 20 years old children at the age of 60 which is completely normal, my advice is to lose weight and have a decent stable income, am sure you can find a wife between 27-30 ( preferably from the country ). Just christianmaax bro.

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Seems like a larp tbh.

 

[eduardkoopman]

In the photo I posted I am 235 lbs and I don't look fat, I look high end of average (around 20%)

USA/Americans; are so fucked up in their fat believes. Probably because 70% of peple there are overweight or worse. What the fuck is wrong with USA, that everyone gets fat. Is the food shit there, or something.

20% body fat, is to much.
15% body fat is what to be at minumum.

 

[Pu33]

I have a Germanic build. Im not talking about "peak", I just want to get in decent shape. Why must you be such a nihilist about everything? Are you trying to make me give up on life? I'm not a professional body builder and I'm not a model! My question was could I be a high end normal Not a Chad like you. Sorry I bothered.


I'm not old really. . It's like I'm cusp of mid life. Don't be so negative. I wish you well in life . Please do the same for me.

Jesus Christ I'll bluepill it for you grandpa.

Live the best life you can, Don't wait around for missed opportunities and don't compare yourself to others you are unique in your own way and where ever the journey of life takes you just live in the moment.

USA/Americans; are so fucked up in their fat believes. Probably because 70% of peple there are overweight or worse. What the fuck is wrong with USA, that everyone gets fat. Is the food shit there, or something.

20% body fat, is to much.
15% body fat is what to be at minumum.

lol legit, I have had multiple dexa scans done. and ran tren and t3 and the guy wants to educate me on his fucking germanic genetics allowing him to defy the odds.

 

[RichmondBread]

Not even close, I literally just finished having sex with my gf, my point about his age is that he isn't young and should start dieting and getting in shape now, I mean fuck he dosn't even have to and could find a women, I have seen plenty of women with older, fat or just ugly men which I might work for him since he wants a LTR and not to slay. Getting in shape will only help him in his effort, he is 40 and out of shape, how long will it take to meet a younger women, date her and get to the point of having children? what if he wastes 5 years with her, is he meant to start again at 45? Look at my avi ffs I clearly don't have a problem with age im just being honest with him.

I guess it's the difference between Christian men and non Christian I don't believe that the flesh is the determining factor. I want a traditional woman. I also don't believe in sex outside marriage Obviously age is an issue because you are worried what you yourself will look like at 40. Self projecting. I believe people can look nice at any age, but it takes a bit more effort later.

 

[Pu33]

I guess it's the difference between Christian men and non Christian I don't believe that the flesh is the determining factor. I want a traditional woman. I also don't believe in sex outside marriage Obviously age is an issue because you are worried what you yourself will look like at 40. Self projecting. I believe people can look nice at any age, but it takes a bit more effort later.

Okay lol an obvious troll, nobody is this stupid.

And for what it's worth I just finished blowing a load into a women almost precisely as you are searching for, If I want kids I can have them whenever. Right hand to god. Keep trolling m8.

 

[RichmondBread]

Jesus Christ I'll bluepill it for you grandpa.

Live the best life you can, Don't wait around for missed opportunities and don't compare yourself to others you are unique in your own way and where ever the journey of life takes you just live in the moment.

lol legit, I have had multiple dexa scans done. and ran tren and t3 and the guy wants to educate me on his fucking germanic genetics allowing him to defy the odds.

Lol. Just say "okay boomer". Even though I'm a Xennial.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Men 40 is not woman's 40. I know you call it "cope" but women's eggs have shelf life. I want children. It is better for a younger woman to have children, especially her first child. A 40 year old woman could have a child but it's not as good if it's her first child.

I agree. On fertility, with you on this one.
Men sperm, gets worse over time, but pretty slowly. For women, it goes down, very quick, and the quality also with age.

I mean. Look at Trump. He breeded a giant of a kid (Barron) with his 60-year old sperm.

On your personal bases. If you wanna have kids, you can't be unhealthy/fat like you are. You gotta get your fitness together. Because you sperm health is also significantly realted to being healthy and stuff. and being a fat inactive person, lacking testosterone due to that lifestyle, will fuck the sperm quality badly. So get in shape, and get active, to increase the quality of that also. You owe it to your future kid(s).

 

[Pu33]

tbh didn't even mind playing since you took the time to write responses.

 

[RichmondBread]

Okay lol an obvious troll, nobody is this stupid.

And for what it's worth I just finished blowing a load into a women almost precisely as you are searching for, If I want kids I can have them whenever. Right hand to god. Keep trolling m8.

I'm not a troll. I will take your advice. I just think you have this idea that I believe I could look like some model or pro bodybuilder, and that is not my goal, nor intention. I just want to look like a handsome slightly chubby 40 something male.

 

[Pu33]

completely oblivious theres an entire conversation going on on sperm quality lol.

Anyway OP seriously though do what you want, try joining church groups and meeting a lady there, obviously that would be the best place to find what you want, and your right the way we look shouldn't matter. it is what it is.

Okay Boomer?

 

[RichmondBread]

completely oblivious theres an entire conversation going on on sperm quality lol.

Anyway OP seriously though do what you want, try joining church groups and meeting a lady there, obviously that would be the best place to find what you want, and your right the way we look shouldn't matter. it is what it is.

Okay Boomer?

Yes I agree. And no offence to you. It seems that you are someone who put tons and tons of effort into looking good, and I respect that . Although I may have been blessed genetically by my parents, ( my mother was a model) I was lazy and let myself go. Bad habits can be broken. God bless!

 

[Deusmaximus]

What are you guys even talking about. The questions: is he to old? is there hope? Could it be worth? Does he has any change?
Thats not worth losing time.
At the end nobody knows exactly, and there is just one question: do or do not. Looksmax, whatever it takes or not. Imo you should try fucking everything, even the most radical shit. And even if there is no outcome at the end, you took the chance.
Stop talking bullshit. There is no time to waste.

 

[eduardkoopman]

handsome slightly chubby

I don't think in general, for regular men: handsome and (slightly) chubby exists.
Being (slightly) will automatically make one not handsome anymore, 99% of the time.
Just like how a chubby woman, can't be hot in 99% of the cases (in the eyesof the general public).

If, I was you. I would really ask myself: Why do I want to be, or am okay with being chubby? What are the reasons that I dislike being lean/lower fat%?
Maybe you have believes about it, like being lean equals haveing to eat gross tasting food every day and having a boring no fun life. I dunno. And then examine, if that are actaully true/correct believes, or semi-tru believes, or totally false beleives.

It's not difficult to be lean.(at least for me) Compared to other things, they are much harder (imo). Just calculate the calaries one needs to take, and make a food plan, and do it, and find other distractions at risky times (like one alsways eats crips at 8 o'clock then schedule some other activity at 8 o'clock like doing a hike, or meetup or whatever fun one likes.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Damn we have oldcels now, how did you even find this site? I'm only 17 haha

 

[eduardkoopman]

Damn we have oldcels now, how did you even find this site? I'm only 17 haha

We're taking over, bro. Oldies life for ever, and will never die!

 

[RichmondBread]

Damn we have oldcels now, how did you even find this site? I'm only 17 haha

Middle aged

I don't think in general, for regular men: handsome and (slightly) chubby exists.
Being (slightly) will automatically make one not handsome anymore, 99% of the time.
Just like how a chubby woman, can't be hot in 99% of the cases (in the eyesof the general public).

If, I was you. I would really ask myself: Why do I want to be, or am okay with being chubby? What are the reasons that I dislike being lean/lower fat%?
Maybe you have believes about it, like being lean equals haveing to eat gross tasting food every day and having a boring no fun life. I dunno. And then examine, if that are actaully true/correct believes, or semi-tru believes, or totally false beleives.

It's not difficult to be lean.(at least for me) Compared to other things, they are much harder (imo). Just calculate the calaries one needs to take, and make a food plan, and do it, and find other distractions at risky times (like one alsways eats crips at 8 o'clock then schedule some other activity at 8 o'clock like doing a hike, or meetup or whatever fun one likes.

Slightly chubby can be attractive, just not model good looks. It's pretty much common sense.

What are you guys even talking about. The questions: is he to old? is there hope? Could it be worth? Does he has any change?
Thats not worth losing time.
At the end nobody knows exactly, and there is just one question: do or do not. Looksmax, whatever it takes or not. Imo you should try fucking everything, even the most radical shit. And even if there is no outcome at the end, you took the chance.
Stop talking bullshit. There is no time to waste.

That doesn't sound like Christian advice.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Middle aged


Slightly chubby can be attractive, just not model good looks. It's pretty much common sense.

That doesn't sound like Christian advice.

Yeah i know it's just a term people use here for people older than 25 haha. But how did you manage to find this site? It's a pretty small place here

 

[RichmondBread]

Yeah i know it's just a term people use here for people older than 25 haha. But how did you manage to find this site? It's a pretty small place here

I used Google, lol

 

[eduardkoopman]

Slightly chubby can be attractive, just not model good looks. It's pretty much common sense.

But you are like 25% bodyfat, right?
And that is not slightly chuby.
When we talk 17%-18% slightly chubby, then maybe in some cases.
But 15% is really where it starts, imo.

 

[Joyride]

Only in terms of baby making. It is more ideal for the woman to be younger. There is a fact. And 30 is not a big age gap. Really, after 25 it's two full grown adults.

That's not what I was talking about. I was pointing out your hypocrisy??? Don't you get it? Oh my god.

 

[RichmondBread]

That's not what I was talking about. I was pointing out your hypocrisy??? Don't you get it? Oh my god.

It isn't. I'm not going after 20 year old girls. I just want a woman who is more likely to have healthy children. That is a woman more likely under 35 .

But you are like 25% bodyfat, right?
And that is not slightly chuby.
When we talk 17%-18% slightly chubby, then maybe in some cases.
But 15% is really where it starts, imo.

Those men have different builds, and currently I'm definitely over 25 percent. I believe I have a build more like Steve Reeves. When he was lean, he had a small waist. The abs look is for men with wide waists.

 

[oldcell]

just stop arguing with them about age. This site is mostly guys in their early 20s that see older men dating younger women as a threat and it triggers them.

This
Old good lookism
Young guys here are deluded about many things, lacking experience
Lol at 40 being old, 38 here, zero problem to get females in their early 20, its much better now than when i was at my 20

 

[Joyride]

It isn't. I'm not going after 20 year old girls. I just want a woman who is more likely to have healthy children. That is a woman more likely under 35 .

You still don't get it lol. I'm done.

 

[Hector]

What about facial looks? 3/10 seems a bit.... um I don't know. I mean that's super ugly, isn't it? I have extremely clear skin and good features. I was hoping I'd at least be a 5. Anyways, I have started on a keto diet and I have lost 20 lbs and I am lifting more and doing cardio.

Your bone structure seems good, your eye area is great, nothings seems recessed, but everything of this is useless if you are fat (high fat %). So you have a lot of potential, but you need to work out.

Leanmaxx, gymmaxx and your body will look better but specially your face.

Most people here need to change bones and muscle, you only need to change fat which is the easiest lookmaxx. GL

 

[OldRooster]

Most people here need to change bones and muscle, you only need to change fat which is the easiest lookmaxx. GL

Unless you are a food addict

 

[Deleted member 2854]

Another troll thread

 

[RichmondBread]

Eh. I'm not a troll. Thanks everyone . I did get some genuine responses and I know I can work on this. Now that I know how the "rating" system works I don't feel nearly as bad.

 

[Deleted member 3881]

meade?

 

[Pietrosiek]

to fat to rate

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

Lose weight that's the only thing you need to focus on atm

 

[RichmondBread]

I think I have ascertained that body is everything when it comes to the looks , and facial asethtics don't mean much (at least not for men). Then that is actually a good thing. I am working on it. I was just hoping people would comment on my Germanic build. But it's no good if it's full of flab, lol.

 

[DarknLost]

This nigga has a blog

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