Hgh vs igf-1 L3?

[Faaska]

Seems like there is no real reason to choose hgh??

• Hgh is more expensive
• Hgh has less anecdotal evidence supporting it and takes longer to take effect
• Hgh is usually lower quality or faked
• Hgh causes more water retention
• Hgh stimulates release of energy from fat storage making it worse for bulking (which should be done if puberty maxxing)

 

[CurryCelHater]

no studies on igf1 LR3 showing height growth. never been used its just theoretical. HGH is king. and bulking is not what you want to do. lean during puberty is best

 

[smoth]

use both

 

[Faaska]

use both

no studies on igf1 LR3 showing height growth. never been used its just theoretical. HGH is king. and bulking is not what you want to do. lean during puberty is best

Oh shit yh forgot abt aromatase, but I could test this out if you think it would be a good idea, already Ltn so it’s fine to fuck around ain’t got much to lose.

 

[Deleted member 28722]

then u haven’t actually read anything if this is the conclusion you’ve come too

 

[odux]

no studies on igf1 LR3 showing height growth. never been used its just theoretical. HGH is king. and bulking is not what you want to do. lean during puberty is best

neither does hgh on people without hgh deficiencies which is all of us

 

[Faaska]

neither does hgh on people without hgh deficiencies which is all of us

I mean some studies show it does?? The way it's explained to me is it males up for years of us being losers and giving ourselves shitty hormones so we can actually fit into our bone gaps.

Dose-dependent effect of growth hormone on final height in children with short stature without growth hormone deficiency - PubMed

GH treatment significantly increased FH in ISS children in a dose-dependent manner, with a mean gain of 1.3 SDS (8 cm) and a broad range of response from no gain to 3 SDS compared to a mean gain of 0.2 SDS in the untreated controls.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Tallest person here]

then u haven’t actually read anything if this is the conclusion you’ve come too

I don’t get it, if hgh works by converting into Igf 1 through protein or whatever, why not just inject igf1

 

[CurryCelHater]

I don’t get it, if hgh works by converting into Igf 1 through protein or whatever, why not just inject igf1

it’s hard to get real IGF like increlex. just not possible. and the peptide versions you need to take time off to desensitize not have they been studied at all for height growth.

 

[CurryCelHater]

neither does hgh on people without hgh deficiencies which is all of us

HGH does work on non deficient people. the idiopathic short stature studies are interesting, as they end up growing inches taller usually with AI and HGH. they are not deficient

 

[odux]

HGH does work on non deficient people. the idiopathic short stature studies are interesting, as they end up growing inches taller usually with AI and HGH. they are not deficient

those are studies on people with hgh deficiencies

 

[odux]

I mean some studies show it does?? The way it's explained to me is it males up for years of us being losers and giving ourselves shitty hormones so we can actually fit into our bone gaps.

Dose-dependent effect of growth hormone on final height in children with short stature without growth hormone deficiency - PubMed

GH treatment significantly increased FH in ISS children in a dose-dependent manner, with a mean gain of 1.3 SDS (8 cm) and a broad range of response from no gain to 3 SDS compared to a mean gain of 0.2 SDS in the untreated controls.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

interesting study i had never seen that before but im still unsure as all dictirs ive asked said it wont help

 

[CurryCelHater]

those are studies on people with hgh deficiencies

no idiopathic short stature studies are done on people who are short for no reason. no medical reason just short.

 

[Deleted member 28722]

those are studies on people with hgh deficiencies

no they aren’t. ISS is not hgh deficient. It’s just short stature. I really dislike retards who don’t ever contribute to the years of research on this forum and just say fucking nonsense man. Can you like fucking read anything before you talk?