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x3 philtrum height
flatter philtrum
 
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she looks better but she was always recessed
 
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x3 philtrum height
flatter philtrum
She looks INFINITELY better.

Her long philtrum can be fixed now with a lip-lift. She LITERALLY needs this procedure: look how thin her upper lip is. Afterwards, her philtrum will look shorter too.

Again, she ALSO needs chin shaving and submental fat removal: she is too chubby. Idk why people go for surgery before losing weight.
 
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lefort 1 sagittal should STOP!
 
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never understood women getting plastic surgery. low IQ i guess
 
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She looks INFINITELY better.

Her long philtrum can be fixed now with a lip-lift. She LITERALLY needs this procedure: look how thin her upper lip is. Afterwards, her philtrum will look shorter too.

Again, she ALSO needs chin shaving and submental fat removal: she is too chubby. Idk why people go for surgery before losing weight.
Most fatties are in denial about their weight and it's effect on their looks, especially with fat women.
 
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never understood women getting plastic surgery. low IQ i guess
now she probably hopes she can get chad to commit
 
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There is something with her face that is not appealing to me even after the Bimax.
 
lefort 1 sagittal should STOP!
what is lefort 1 sagittal elab pls. Looks like she always had that weird chimp limp

@6ft4 @valhalar @randomvanish

that's me after 6 mm lefort

Michael Jordan Lol GIF
 
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There is something with her face that is not appealing to me even after the Bimax.
Even AFTER LeForte and Jaw advancement, she still has "bad" forward growth.

I bet her jaw forward-growth is still close to average, or even below. If you notice, her jaw is actually still back. It is her CHIN that protrudes.

BUT women with big chins are ugly. She needs to shave down this shit. And then her mediocre forward growth after Bimax will be More noticeable.:bigbrain:

And still she looks better. Beauty is not a zero-sum game. It is a scale. She definitely improved. :chad:
 
what is lefort 1 sagittal elab pls. Looks like she always had that weird chimp limp

@6ft4 @valhalar @randomvanish

that's me after 6 mm lefort

Michael Jordan Lol GIF
why the fuck chimp limp happen like this I still struggle to tell from movements 😭
 
why the fuck chimp limp happen like this I still struggle to tell from movements 😭
idk what i have seen so far who got a chimp limp, already had had chimp limp before the surgery.
 
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idk what i have seen so far who got a chimp limp, already had had chimp limp before the surgery.
but her philtrum wasn't long like that before :unsure: is it only coming from nose change?
 
idk what i have seen so far who got a chimp limp, already had had chimp limp before the surgery.
Makes no sense her philtrum was curved before
 
do you find her philtrum attractive in the before pic?
Not really because she is recessed but the philtrum is curved so that’s a plus. Problem is probably the downward rotated mouth and philtrum
 
Is it possible that the rhinoplasty had a lengthening effect on the philtrum? In the same way advancing the jaw pulls the skin tighter, reducing the nose may leave the skin looser, especially below the nose.
 
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Is it possible that the rhinoplasty had a lengthening effect on the philtrum? In the same way advancing the jaw pulls the skin tighter, reducing the nose may leave the skin looser, especially below the nose.
That could be the case.
I think her overly projecting anterior nasal spine was corrected?
And that's the result. A long ass philtrum.
She seemd to always had a long philtrum its just that the anterior nasal spine was over projected.
@RealSurgerymax enlighten us with your superior knowledge. Wtf happened to that girl's philtrum?
 
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Is it possible that the rhinoplasty had a lengthening effect on the philtrum? In the same way advancing the jaw pulls the skin tighter, reducing the nose may leave the skin looser, especially below the nose.
I believe so, her nose changed ALOT, specially because she went from a big downturned nose to a small upturned nose and upturned nose naturally exposes more the philtrum area. Maybe the major culprit is still the advancement of the maxilla but the rhinoplasty might have contributed alot to the lengthened appearence of her philtrum
 
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That could be the case.
I think her overly projecting anterior nasal spine was corrected?
And that's the result. A long ass philtrum.
She seemd to always had a long philtrum its just that the anterior nasal spine was over projected.
@RealSurgerymax enlighten us with your superior knowledge. Wtf happened to that girl's philtrum?
I agree it has to be the nasal spine shave and opening the nasolabial angle.
 
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How did it get longer tho? Thought moving the jaws forward don't affect that. What caused it?
 

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