Honest question about Constantinople/Right of Conquest - GTFIH If you're Greek Muslim Turk Balkan Meds/Currie Wignat etc!!!!!! JEWS STAY THE FUCK OUT.

[chaddyboi66]

I often at times find some Orthobros or the "based" crowd talking about retaking Constantinople while also acknowledging the validity of the right of conquest when it comes to other peoples like in America, Rhodesia, Ireland etc. under the very same breath.

And while I'd honestly prefer this outcome over the current situation in finally being able to have an Orthodox Constantinople again, it also ultimately the begs the question of whether or not the right of conquest is any different for the Turks in this case?


I must admit that while I do believe in the validity in the right of conquest I don't believe in the validity of conquest via subversion or through deception like with what happened to the Palestinians or what's currently happening with the (((foreign))) invasion of Europe.

I also believe that it's every people's right and ultimate duty to resist any foreign conquerors/occupiers in order protect their folk and reclaim their homeland, as well as when it also comes to removing foreign invaders from said homeland.


However, I don't see how one can support right of conquest for a few but then complain when those they don't like conquer or even they are conquered themselves- right of conquest ought to either all be just or none of it is.

That line of though doesn't sit right with me because it just seems very hypocritical and as though it were something akin to moral relativism which is born of depravity and ultimately secularism.


With that being said however-

Did they not conquer it and do they not also have a claim to it via the right of conquest as a result?

Why or how is the conquest of other peoples like with what happened during Western expansion and ultimately colonialism any different and/pr justified under the right of conquest but the Turkish/Ottoman conquest Constantinople not under the very same premise?

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[TsarTsar444]

Can you tldr this

 

[TsarTsar444]

Okay read it. Both Ottomans and European conquests are judged the same, we learn about the Ottoman conquests in the Balkans and how brutal it was. Basically for us, we = niggers, the ottomans = evil white men!, same as the situation in the USA

 

[TsarTsar444]

But not for me tho, im Muslim, talking here how the christian balkan people react to the Ottomans, also the Caucasian people lile Georgians and Armenians

 

[turkproducer]

Nope should stay muslim/turkish, they conquered in the medieval era where war and conuqering was normal, no discussion.

lmao exactly

that’s like saying give US back to the natives

or kick out all spanish and euro mutts in latin america

never gonna happen, just incel fantasy

 

[Carolus]

moral relativism which is born of depravity and ultimately secularism.

hate moral relativism

 

[n0rthface]

Yup, incel stormfront fantasy to be exact.

From conquerors to bug eye incel Manlet kebab merchants

 

[n0rthface]

Europeans taking back Constantinople (2051)

 

[n0rthface]

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[goat2x]

Reality christan-cucks will kneel to their muslim overlords like always.
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this picture is fake and it supposed to be an image of richard lionheart who actually defeated salladin jfl @ ur brain retard

 

[TsarTsar444]

Reality christan-cucks will kneel to their muslim overlords like always.
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Morrocans sided with Catholic Spain againts the Ottoman Empire

 

[goat2x]

ok, but still salhuddin al ayubbi raped the crusaders and kicked them out of jerusalem like a true gigachad.

Nah actually

Baldwin raped the muslims twice even in his last battle but he died due to a disease

then richard lionheart came who lost once and won twice against salladin but due to him coming from england he allowed salladin to come back via certain rules (like christians shouldnt be discriminated against)

turks brutally destroying the "roman" empire isnt even true lol, the roman empire was snatched by catholic christians long before they even stepped foot in their terrotory, and bare in mind most of them came via horse back thousands of miles away

it is what it is both persian and byzanthine empire was in the verge of ending

 

[TsarTsar444]

some did there was a civil war breeding between two sultans in morocco. One sultan chose to betray the ottoman caliphate and sided with christian spain.

Yeah the one who won, the only reason Morroco wasn't conquered by the Ottomans was because Spain would have intervened

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

Yeah the one who won, the only reason Morroco wasn't conquered by the Ottomans was because Spain would have intervened

Disgraceful betrayals to the Honorable Ottomans, that's why we are divided nowadays.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Disgraceful betrayals to the Honorable Ottomans, that's why we are divided nowadays.

The Morrocan King didn't want to give his position to the Ottoman Sultan and sided with Spain instead, dumb

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

The Morrocan King didn't want to give his position to the Ottoman Sultan and sided with Spain instead, dumb

I'm not surprised. It is the same pattern over and over again, there is some intent of reunification in the muslim majority lands but suddenly the Emir/Sultan/King of such and such doesn't want to reduce his power or share it.

That's why we are not united nowadays, Morocco and Algeria for example are the same people, culture, language, food, etc, when i speak with Algerians is like when i'm with Moroccans but in politics they are rivals.

 

[TsarTsar444]

I'm not surprised. It is the same pattern over and over again, there is some intent of reunification in the muslim majority lands but suddenly the Emir/Sultan/King of such and such doesn't want to reduce his power or share it.

That's why we are not united nowadays, Morocco and Algeria for example are the same people, culture, language, food, etc, when i speak with Algerians is like when i'm with Moroccans but in politics they are rivals.

The west caused that with the nationalist ideas that spread from 1800

 

[ThatDjangoWalk]

The west caused that with the nationalist ideas that spread from 1800

It happened since a lot before, but when the French and British came in they poluted our minds with all that and suddenly they started with the trashy Arab Nationalism (Yeah, like arabs were something or known before Islam... funny people these nationalists), and the ultimate attack and offense was giving Palestine to the Zionist Terrorists.

 

[goat2x]

ultimately the crusaders failed against the hero salhudin they achieved nothing against him. The turks conquered the last remaint of the 'eastern roman empire' and the early arab conquests were unbelievable even if the byzantine and sassanid were weakend.

i mean not really i explained it already

end of the day jews won again jfl

 

[BigBiceps]

You have right to conquer anything you can take.

 

[goat2x]

yup, still illogical to be dreaming of a city that has been conquered 1453, If muslims dream of taking al andalus I call them dumb too.

Well to me its more like an ethnicity issue like most turks live in Constantinople or Istanbul

and its not just turkey citizens 99% of them are turks by ethnicity

it would be mere impossible to keep it under greek control unless some western power dont wanna pour in billions of dollars lol

 

[ilyess]

Thr amount of copium from christcucks in this thread

 

[TITUS]

It should have been reconquered by the Russians, but the jews stopped it from happening.

 

[Chadethnic101]

Reality christan-cucks will kneel to their muslim overlords like always.
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Muslims are naturally high t, it's the belief in Allah the almighty and masculine values taught as a child. And a high red meat consumption as a child.
Glad I grew up as Muslim