Honestly game is such a cope, it's looks or rejected.

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Jfl at acting with a girl like she is a choice.
Do you think they don't know about the truth?

She doesn't find you attractive, she is not interested, your game does not add anything but pity.
Imagine if a landwhale come to you for fucking, you say no and she replys "your loss" or acts like she has other males, jfl, will you crying after her then? of course not. Same with women, you act like a big man with many choices but she is not intimidated, she doesn't really care at all. And you know what? That theorycal landwhale actually have choices lol

Jfl in motivational "Write to your oneitis" if whenever you try an approach she leaves you on read, what do you wanna try?
jfl at "fuck many girls to care less", yeah you idiot, and people would be here trying to looksmax (or pretend to) if they could fuck many girls?

Asking for a phone number is not a big game, not acting like a whimpy faggot is not a big game; there is not a game. A girl see you and she already decided if you deserve her pussy or not, and if you are really lucky, she won't see another gl guy around her house and you won't lose your chance
 
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Didn’t read but game matters on social media
 
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Yeah, this is venting because i tried to approach my oneitis answering to her story on ig where she wrote "they are pathetic", i went for a joke with "yo, who, me?" she answered after 8 hours with
"lol, why should be you?"
"idk, the subject was not clear"
she left me on read, if i were a chad the conversation would still be going on

I was confident since she reacted to some of my stories this day, but jfl, my feet are on the ground again.
There is no game, i'm not that gl how people say here, i'm disgusting, and even that bitch who people here thought i have a big chance said no.

jesus christ, ascend or death. Go for your "didnt read" or whatever, guys.
 
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no shit nigga, welcome to the blackpill :)
 
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Looks matters more but game still matters retard.
 
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but game matters on social media
but game still matters retard.
Game (in dating context), a meaningless and empty concept.

Without a clear pratical definiton. And which means something else, to everyone.

Retards, needs to be more specific.
all that matters, imo. SPECIFICALLY:
1. extraverted behavior,
2. being calm and collected socially (not anxious)
3. don't simp, don't be very clingy and needy
4. don't have a mental/personality disorder that you can't read and understand people (like being autistic).

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LOL @ these massive copes lists about game.

to quote: "She's sexy without trying. The girl with game is sexy, but in a subtle manner. You see her sexuality in her entire being without her even trying."

LOL @ this cope quote. It's all looks, and nothing with game if a woman looks sexy without trying. An unattrative looking women, can't game me into believing she is sexy.
LMAO WTF
tv show lol GIF
 
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if you text like a fucking autistic retard its over. game should be considered as a sotfmaxx. it helps.
 
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Guess what? I didn't read.
 
if you text like a fucking autistic retard its over. game should be considered as a sotfmaxx. it helps.
it's more like.
Don't do/say stupid shit. Than that you can game yourself into a woman her pants that didn't like you sexually to some extend at first sight.


Sometimes.
People mix game; with money and status concepts.
I don't see that as game.
But having alot of money, helps in getting women (even it being betabux). And likewise Status.
But both are not game, imo. Game is basically social abilities.
 
it's more like.
Don't do/say stupid shit. Than that you can game yourself into a woman her pants that didn't like you sexually to some extend at first sight.


Sometimes.
People mix game; with money and status concepts.
I don't see that as game.
But having alot of money, helps in getting women (even it being betabux). And likewise Status.
But both are not game, imo. Game is basically social abilities.
you still need basic knowledge of women and how words affects your sex appeal and other shit. its a whole subject
 
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how words affects your sex appeal.
its a whole subject
tv show lol GIF


As long as it's not dumb shit, leaving the mouth. The rest is mostly cope.
I can't take all this redpill game coping, about what one says.

I recall from muh PUA days (i was low tie nromie in looks probs); there were times I was spitting mad good game. And I was sometimes borderline perfect game, on dates. Still got flaked on and what not.
Also, looking better now. I get different treatement, even though my current game levels sucks compared to back than.

Obviosulsy say dumb shit, which one might give as an example, will fuck shit up.
But normal regular level of convo skills is good enough, Looks does the selling in general cases.
 
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looks are your value
game is just how good you are at talking to girls, not actually reflective of your value
 
Landwhales have options but they are not good options
 
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Jfl at acting with a girl like she is a choice.
Do you think they don't know about the truth?

She doesn't find you attractive, she is not interested, your game does not add anything but pity.
Imagine if a landwhale come to you for fucking, you say no and she replys "your loss" or acts like she has other males, jfl, will you crying after her then? of course not. Same with women, you act like a big man with many choices but she is not intimidated, she doesn't really care at all. And you know what? That theorycal landwhale actually have choices lol

Jfl in motivational "Write to your oneitis" if whenever you try an approach she leaves you on read, what do you wanna try?
jfl at "fuck many girls to care less", yeah you idiot, and people would be here trying to looksmax (or pretend to) if they could fuck many girls?

Asking for a phone number is not a big game, not acting like a whimpy faggot is not a big game; there is not a game. A girl see you and she already decided if you deserve her pussy or not, and if you are really lucky, she won't see another gl guy around her house and you won't lose your chance
"Imagine if a landwhale come to you for fucking, you say no and she replys "your loss" or acts like she has other males, jfl, will you crying after her then? of course not. Same with women, you act like a big man with many choices but she is not intimidated, she doesn't really care at all. And you know what? That theorycal landwhale actually have choices lol"

First of all, you gotta understand that women are nowhere near as visually oriented/driven as we are. Second, acting like you have plenty of options is not the only aspect of "game".

You've obviously not spent too much time around hight tier women. They lose interest in men all the time, because the man they initially thought was attractive turned out to be a beta only worthey of the friendzone. Once they actually got to know him he wasn't nearly as attractive as he looks. Happens all the time in the real world.
 
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First of all, you gotta understand that women are nowhere near as visually oriented/driven as we are.
tbh. WHEN THEY TRACK BEHAVIOR,
there is not that much difference in men and women. In how they select partners.
WOMEN ARE AS VISUAL AS MEN.

it's just that irl. because women hold power. that they also like, want, and can get other stuff on top of the looks (of her partner). if I could get money and other stuff from a woman on top of her looks, I would maybe also put that on the demand list.

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P.S. before I get any complaints about this only applying for younger women, since above soruce are with younger peoples group, the same results have been replicated in a couple other studies featuring older women:

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  • Feingold, A. (1990). Gender differences in effects of physical attractiveness on romantic attraction: A comparison across five research paradigms. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 59, 981–993.
 
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tbh. WHEN THEY TRACK BEHAVIOR,
there is not that much difference in men and women. In how they select partners.
WOMEN ARE AS VISUAL AS MEN.

it's just that irl. because women hold power. that they also like, want, and can get other stuff on top of the looks (of her partner). if I could get money and other stuff from a woman on top of her looks, I would maybe also put that on the demand list.

relationship_predictors_infographic-800.gif
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P.S. before I get any complaints about this only applying for younger women, since above soruce are with younger peoples group, the same results have been replicated in a couple other studies featuring older women:

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  • Feingold, A. (1990). Gender differences in effects of physical attractiveness on romantic attraction: A comparison across five research paradigms. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 59, 981–993.
These studies are about as flawed as female logic itself. What women report that they like/want on a piece of paper is nowhere near the truth. How often do you see them saying they want a nice guy who respects them only to end up with a guy who treats them like garbage?

Women don't know what they really want. You gotta watch what they do. Never listen to what they say. They're not men.
 
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There are 20 chadlites in her Dms ... don’t you think she’s gonna pick one with better game ?
 
There are 20 chadlites in her Dms ... don’t you think she’s gonna pick one with better game ?
The first thing they do is scour ur profile to see what resources and status you have. Women know how fake pictures are
 
Game has ZERO impact on your slaying potential. It has ZERO impact on whether the girl you met on a bar on Friday night, will go home with you. Same in online dating. It is all pre-decided.
 
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obvoiusly you can't 'game' a girl into being sexually attracted to you. That's decided the second she lays her eyes on your basically. And no amount of 'game' is gonna help if you don't meet her physical requirements.

As you say, 'game' is basically not being a complete social retard and saying super weird shit and not being able to look her in the eye etc. But then that only applies too a tiny percentage of people so not even worth worrying about
 
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This Nigga is mad cuz he got rejected :forcedsmile:
 
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Yeah, this is venting because i tried to approach my oneitis answering to her story on ig where she wrote "they are pathetic", i went for a joke with "yo, who, me?" she answered after 8 hours with
"lol, why should be you?"
"idk, the subject was not clear"
she left me on read, if i were a chad the conversation would still be going on

I was confident since she reacted to some of my stories this day, but jfl, my feet are on the ground again.
There is no game, i'm not that gl how people say here, i'm disgusting, and even that bitch who people here thought i have a big chance said no.

jesus christ, ascend or death. Go for your "didnt read" or whatever, guys.
Obviously looks are everything but that convo with your oneitis was retarded. "idk subject not clear" Tf is she supposed to say? Lmao
 
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Of course looks matter the most , but jfl if you think that she would be in LTR with you just because of your looks only. While The Game (where by the Game I mean the one teached by Mystery and his PUA copycats) is BS, having good social skills and pimpmaxxing is major improvement to your chances of getting a girl.


(And, Jesus, oneitis? Seriously? Don't attach yourself to one girl, if you already did, tell her how you feel so either you will fuck with her or forget about her)
 
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Obviously looks are everything but that convo with your oneitis was retarded. "idk subject not clear" Tf is she supposed to say? Lmao
Dude should have talk to her in rl but instead tried to move things forward by replying to IG story, lmao
 
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These studies are about as flawed as female logic itself. What women report that they like/want on a piece of paper is nowhere near the truth. How often do you see them saying they want a nice guy who respects them only to end up with a guy who treats them like garbage?

Women don't know what they really want. You gotta watch what they do. Never listen to what they say. They're not men.
I SELECTED STUDIES, THAT TRACKED BEHAVIOUR

NOT SELF REPORTED OPINION/SURVEY TYPE IF STUDIES, DID I SHARE/QUOTE.

even both studies showed the difference, between action and opinion/self report of women.

Read the studies if you wanna know/see. I shared the sources.

IF, YOU GO BY FEMALE OPINION. she will say game/personality stuff will matter most.

IF YOU GO BY FEMALE ACTION. Studies show again and again consistenly that looks matters most for the outcome of getting date, sex, and relationships.

I think below 2 comments are a correct representation I agree with.
Can't believe how often Game gets promoted here as the main number 1 factor for having a good dating life.
Game has ZERO impact on your slaying potential. It has ZERO impact on whether the girl you met on a bar on Friday night, will go home with you. Same in online dating. It is all pre-decided.
obvoiusly you can't 'game' a girl into being sexually attracted to you. That's decided the second she lays her eyes on your basically. And no amount of 'game' is gonna help if you don't meet her physical requirements.

As you say, 'game' is basically not being a complete social retard and saying super weird shit and not being able to look her in the eye etc. But then that only applies too a tiny percentage of people so not even worth worrying about
 
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Game matters after a certain looks threshold is met. There are dozen of studies who show that women are attracted to certain kinds of personalities like dark triad. So dont abolish any responsibility for shitty personality by dismissing the importance of game. Your best bet is working on both and make them best out of it.
 
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I SELECTED STUDIES, THAT TRACKED BEHAVIOUR

NOT SELF REPORTED OPINION/SURVEY TYPE IF STUDIES, DID I SHARE/QUOTE.

even both studies showed the difference, between action and opinion/self report of women.

Read the studies if you wanna know/see. I shared the sources.

IF, YOU GO BY FEMALE OPINION. she will say game/personality stuff will matter most.

IF YOU GO BY FEMALE ACTION. Studies show again and again consistenly that looks matters most for the outcome of getting date, sex, and relationships.

I think below 2 comments are a correct representation I agree with.
Can't believe how often Game gets promoted here as the main number 1 factor for having a good dating life.
I disagree. Personality or "game" is a measure of social standing, status and entertainment value. Anybody who has a little sexual experience knows how certain behaviors can force different outcomes.

Being needy or emotional dries up pussy faster than you can imagine, even with good looks and I saw this exactly same mechanism with a 2 giga chad friend of mine. The 1. guy is a tall wide framed chad where most girls in my Highschool year agreed that he's the best looking. He slayed girls left and right at parties but he's very very beta and soft. You wouldn't think that because of his masculine tall appearance. One day he got a slut gf, she mistreated him often, probably cheated on him, dominated him entirely and broke up. He was easily 2 PSL point above her and probably even more in SMV.

Same thing with a guy friend who fucked over 300 girls a the age of 22. He's 6 PSL and biggest slayer I ever met. HIs gf stayed with him despite his cheating but the moment he fell really in love with her and committed to her, she broke up and he got rejected twice afterwards. This guy got over 2k matches in germany on tinder, he's very good looking.

My point is, looks are the biggest factor statically because its easily measurable. Things like alpha/beta behaviors are not.
 
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Obviously looks are everything but that convo with your oneitis was retarded. "idk subject not clear" Tf is she supposed to say? Lmao

Saying who about she was talking, put a like or things like this.
If interested, women do not let the discussion goes down
 
Dude should have talk to her in rl but instead tried to move things forward by replying to IG story, lmao
No, we already know each other
 
I disagree. Personality or "game" is a measure of social standing, status and entertainment value.
If game = Status, power. If game = Money/Wealth. Than I agree, game can help alot.

But as far as I know, game means: communication abilities and personality traits.
imo. the only personality traits that matter (matters less than looks). 1. extraversion. 2 being low in neuroticisms (calm/relaxed versus anxious/nervous (socially)).

Anybody who has a little sexual experience knows how certain behaviors can force different outcomes.
Obvioulsy. but please stop taking outliers, autistic aspies as examples for this. because, obviously their lack of social abolity; fucks it up for them.
But most dudes, are average range in social abilities. Not bad, but not good either.
Being needy or emotional dries up pussy faster than you can imagine,
It's a negative factor for sure.
I'm not saying that being a giga pussy, won't screw stuff up. because it wil.. But your 2 firends are outliers level of pussies. Most men are significantly less pussy, I would think.
even with good looks and I saw this exactly same mechanism with a 2 giga chad friend of mine. The 1. guy is a tall wide framed chad where most girls in my Highschool year agreed that he's the best looking. He slayed girls left and right at parties but he's very very beta and soft. You wouldn't think that because of his masculine tall appearance. One day he got a slut gf, she mistreated him often, probably cheated on him, dominated him entirely and broke up. He was easily 2 PSL point above her and probably even more in SMV.

Same thing with a guy friend who fucked over 300 girls a the age of 22. He's 6 PSL and biggest slayer I ever met. HIs gf stayed with him despite his cheating but the moment he fell really in love with her and committed to her, she broke up and he got rejected twice afterwards. This guy got over 2k matches in germany on tinder, he's very good looking.

My point is, looks are the biggest factor statically because its easily measurable. Things like alpha/beta behaviors are not.
So.
these 2 good looking dudes.
Both basically being giga needy pussies, in their personality. KINDA outlier pussies levels; since most men are not that big a pussies I would think.

But they, inspite of being giga pussies, they still slayed and got a girlfirends
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While a not good looking guy (aka me 10 years ago), whom is NOT needy in persona, and has quit strong mental state. Does not slay in general at all, nor gets alot of gf's and even has trouble getting 1 gf at all.

That kinda shows imo, how much looks helps. and how much game helps.

These 2 pussy guys, still got slays and gf's. Even though their game sucks, their mental state sucks, and they have weak personality, weak self esteem or confidence, and lack self respect.

LOL. I was kinda opposite. I am kinda ugly. But when I did mangage to get a gf, I was quit good at managing it imo. because I'm not a pussy in that sense.
 
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good link.
i read some of the comments in that thread. So many "game" copers, they look to me like they are blind to the massive importamce of looks influence on dating. Looks is number 1, by a long shot.

this forum here, is from time to time also all about game, or personaity traits. Asif that's the main factor.

My slayer friends (one of whome has zero game) can outslay any average looking PUA nerd who knows all about NLP and and mysterymethod and who is the most self-amused mofo out there
my observation also.
EVEN back in 2010 already.
I had this loser Chadlite friend. NEET, on wellfare. No bright future, and living in student house @ 33 years old or something. But Hcadlite looks.
Me, low tier normie, @ 25 orso. My own place, and future prospects.

We both equally active in chatting up womens. It took me 500+ women, to chat up. to get a handfull of lays and ending up with a (good) LTR.
It took muh Chadlite friend, only a couple of months. And his game was worse than me also.

LooksPill was hitting me already, back in 2010.
But back then, I still had idea and mostly hope that I could out-game muh looks level. I was consitentlay hitting 2 points above muh own looks level. ONLY, after I dropped muh looks standard for women, did I start getting dates and stuffs.

Brutals, LooksPill.

At this point, i'd say 'game' is more about banging attracted girls more efficiently. Not MAKING them attracted.
I agree so much with this quote.
Game, is mainly about:
1. having a fallback way/style/thing to say, so you at least feel comfortable to be pro-active.
2. It's a plan, frame-wrok one setts up. So one can capatalise on opportunities effctively and time efficently
It's more frame-work set-up and logistics, imo. So you don't have to figure and plan it all out from scratch, when you meet a woman that has interest in you.

nobody got time, for time waistings.
 
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Looks matters more but game still matters retard.
no it really doesnt
just be straight up with everything and not be a pussy
holding frame and holding eye contact and shit isnt gonna improve smv
 
There are 20 chadlites in her Dms ... don’t you think she’s gonna pick one with better game ?
no theyll choose the one with the most followers and status
 
Check comment in PUA forums.

Women's perception is malleable. One of the great things about being a man is that we can influence her perception of our looks with solid game.

Women are extraordinarily malleable and they WANT to accept and be attracted to men.
They will make allowances for height, a few extra pounds, receding hairline or baldness, and many other flaws if a man radiates self-acceptance, self-respect, boldness and confidence.
Never forget that women do not objectively rate us with hard numbers like we do.

tv show lol GIF

 
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Check comment in PUA forums.







tv show lol GIF
it (sosuave) is actually one of the more redpilled PUA forums believe it or not. Most on there tend to know what's up and that looks are what gets your foot in the door, and 'game' can help a little in certain situations

If you want to read completely deluded people who LITERALLY think you can be a 4ft tall 65 year old with no arms and legs and still pull hot teenagers on a regular basis, you should check out the 'skilledseducer' forum


or even certain posters on reddit lol



 
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no it really doesnt
just be straight up with everything and not be a pussy
holding frame and holding eye contact and shit isnt gonna improve smv
It might improve it but NOT having game, NOT being NT, etc will undeniably decrease SMV.

It’s like water; by itself it’s not a magical thing that will increase bodily functions. But a lack of water will decrease normal bodily functions.

Game, NT, is a pre-requisite for a normal functioning man.
 
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So, you don't see her in rl often or what?
I just met her once because we have friends in common.
It happens that we talk a little on Instagram sometimes
 
it (sosuave) is actually one of the more redpilled PUA forums believe it or not. Most on there tend to know what's up and that looks are what gets your foot in the door, and 'game' can help a little in certain situations

If you want to read completely deluded people who LITERALLY think you can be a 4ft tall 65 year old with no arms and legs and still pull hot teenagers on a regular basis, you should check out the 'skilledseducer' forum


or even certain posters on reddit lol



LOL.

The traffic light, analogy. That they try to debunk there. Is kinda good concept actually.
It's good, when use that light system, to gauge her initial sexual attraction on your appearance. Basically.

I would say:
green: she into your looks and she is available.
Yellow: she could do you, but she doesn't find you hot perse. But when she is looking for settling and betabuxx stuff; she will give it a go. And you can maybe get with her, on the normal/common happening basis that you treat her, betabuxx her (a bit)
Red: the idea of physical contact with you, repulses her.

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Traffic Lights Method says:....

There are three kinds of girls out there:
  1. GREENS, who are girls who are looking for you. These girls want you, are very compliant with you, and will happily go with you. These are the girls you want to find.

  2. YELLOWS, who are girls who are on the fence about you. Maybe you can get them, but it is going to be a slog.

  3. REDS, who are girls who are not interested in you at all. You are never going to pick these girls up for a same-night lay. Maybe you could sleep with such a girl over a series of dates. But it is going to take a lot of effort and probably isn't worth it.
 
It might improve it but NOT having game, NOT being NT, etc will undeniably decrease SMV.

It’s like water; by itself it’s not a magical thing that will increase bodily functions. But a lack of water will decrease normal bodily functions.

Game, NT, is a pre-requisite for a normal functioning man.
70+% of men fall in NT range.

The remaining 30%;
12% are better than NT people sociall, and 12% are worse.
2% are giga great socially, and 2% are aspie levels bad.

WHY, do people always bring up the 2% of men that are aspie levels socially/game wise. To make their case? Outliers
 
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