Motivation Hope for claviclecels

[BrownBoy]

This guy went from an average joe to hulk, he is 6' 2"

 

[chrisN]

He didn't have bad clavicle to begin with

 

[BrownBoy]

He didn't have bad clavicle to begin with

it's pretty average, just not incel tier

 

[Arborist]

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

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bottom one kinda looks like you stretched the aspect ratio. wouldn't be surprised tbh.

 

[Arborist]

bottom one kinda looks like you stretched the aspect ratio. wouldn't be surprised tbh.

posing.

you have to lean into the lens to counteract distortion, if you don't it shows you from the perspective of leaning backwards, most people don't realize this.

all of your favorite influencers are doing this, here's some examples that clearly show it.

 

[404040]

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that really you? Were you still going through puberty in the first pic? Major lifefuel because you're wide as fuck but your clavicles don't look special at all without muscle.

 

[russiancel]

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what roids do u use man

 

[Arborist]

that really you? Were you still going through puberty in the first pic? Major lifefuel because you're wide as fuck but your clavicles don't look special at all without muscle.

I have relatively long clavicles with a narrow rib-cage, gaining size changed my scapular positioning and makes me look wider, my shoulders are tucked back slightly in the first picture as a result of poor posture from muscle imbalance (weak chest)

 

[404040]

I have relatively long clavicles with a narrow rib-cage, gaining size changed my scapular positioning and makes me look wider, my shoulders are tucked back slightly in the first picture as a result of poor posture from muscle imbalance (weak chest)

I'm a narrowribcagecel too but my shoulders are decently wide. Lifefuel for me, thanks

 

[Arborist]

I'm a narrowribcagecel too but my shoulders are decently wide. Lifefuel for me, thanks

you can make up for what you lack in rib-cage with your lats, that is also what creates my taper + it looks better than actually having a wide rib-cage.

 

[norwood reaper]

This guy went from an average joe to hulk, he is 6' 2"

What roids do to your face
He is barely 29

 

[Arborist]

What roids do to your face
He is barely 29
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he looks like most people in their late twenties, although the average person ages like milk so that doesn't mean much.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

he looks like most people in their late twenties, although the average person ages like milk so that doesn't mean much.

What age so most men peak?

 

[Arborist]

What age so most men peak?

20-25 if they're going by genes alone, most highschool chads peak around this age and lose everything afterwards because their poor habits catch up with them.

30-40 if you're making an active and preventative effort to take care of yourself, because most men recess to subhuman tier even if they're genetically gifted before they're 30.

virtually no one ages well if they aren't trying, your only physical competition past 30 is balding, skinnyfat weak men, I am 30 and literally every single person my age looks like a joke in comparison.

 

[Lucid]

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Mirin tbh.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

20-25 if they're going by genes alone, most highschool chads peak around this age and lose everything afterwards because their poor habits catch up with them.

30-40 if you're making an active and preventative effort to take care of yourself, because most men recess to subhuman tier even if they're genetically gifted before they're 30.

virtually no one ages well if they aren't trying, your only physical competition past 30 is balding, skinnyfat weak men, I am 30 and literally every single person my age looks like a joke in comparison.

Yea id say most men peak at 20-30ish for women they peak around 20-25 or so in term of looks im 26 it def gets harder to maintain looks if you are past 30

 

[Moggedbyevery1]

I have relatively long clavicles with a narrow rib-cage, gaining size changed my scapular positioning and makes me look wider, my shoulders are tucked back slightly in the first picture as a result of poor posture from muscle imbalance (weak chest)

First pic is you untrained? Mirin low body fat genes

 

[Arborist]

First pic is you untrained? Mirin low body fat genes

yes, that's after I lost weight without training.

I started as skinnyfat.

 

[SoundnVision]

He looked best at 70kg

 

[Marsik]

20-25 if they're going by genes alone, most highschool chads peak around this age and lose everything afterwards because their poor habits catch up with them.

30-40 if you're making an active and preventative effort to take care of yourself, because most men recess to subhuman tier even if they're genetically gifted before they're 30.

virtually no one ages well if they aren't trying, your only physical competition past 30 is balding, skinnyfat weak men, I am 30 and literally every single person my age looks like a joke in comparison.

What are some main aspects of aging well other than weight lifting?

 

[Arborist]

What are some main aspects of aging well other than weight lifting?

weight lifting isn't even the most important besides from a hormonal aspect, the reason most guys recess is because their skin quality goes to shit from poor sleep habits, not drinking enough water consistently and alcohol/smoking, and balding.

what sets lifting apart isn't the muscle directly, it's the physiological response to having the muscle, it completely shifts how fat distributes around your body, people who are weak tend to store their fat poorly, it goes to their neck and jaw for example, I was skinnyfat before I started lifting, now it just accumulates evenly everywhere with the main patches being on my lower back and inner thighs and ass.

 

[makeme183]

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could you explain what's going on here ? I don't get it , the mirror shows something else ?

what sets lifting apart isn't the muscle directly, it's the physiological response to having the muscle, it completely shifts how fat distributes around your body, people who are weak tend to store their fat poorly, it goes to their neck and jaw for example, I was skinnyfat before I started lifting, now it just accumulates evenly everywhere with the main patches being on my lower back and inner thighs and ass.

thoughts on running low dose test to counteract this in your 30's ?

 

[Deepraj7]

posing.

you have to lean into the lens to counteract distortion, if you don't it shows you from the perspective of leaning backwards, most people don't realize this.

all of your favorite influencers are doing this, here's some examples that clearly show it.

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Can u send a pic of yours in shirt before after ?
@Arborist

 

[Arborist]

could you explain what's going on here ? I don't get it

they're leaning forward into the camera.

thoughts on running low dose test to counteract this in your 30's ?

if you need it there's nothing wrong with it.

Can u send a pic of yours in shirt before after ?
@Arborist

don't got any old pictures in clothes, here's some currently in clothes:
https://looksmax.org/threads/fashionmaxxing-for-summer-2023.683356

 

[makeme183]

they're leaning forward into the camera.

so ? what does that achieve ?

if you need it there's nothing wrong with it.

what if you don't need it , but want some of the benefits ?

 

[BrownBoy]

What roids do to your face
He is barely 29
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he abuses tren

 

[Arborist]

so ? what does that achieve ?

counteracts lens distortion, explained it in the initial post.

what if you don't need it , but want some of the benefits ?

feel free I don't judge + it's one of the most studied medicine there is with virtually no sides that aren't easily managed.

only results matter, if you need it then do it, if you don't then you don't have to, it's not that complicated.

 

[BrownBoy]

@Arborist are you natural?

 

[makeme183]

counteracts lens distortion

so what does their mirror reflection signify ?
sorry if its stupid , I don't get it

feel free I don't judge + it's one of the most studied medicine there is with virtually no sides that aren't easily managed.

only results matter, if you need it then do it, if you don't then you don't have to, it's not that complicated.

I wanna make my upper body as big as you/loox WITHOUT putting on too much glycogen
planning ot run very low test/week,my only fear is the ageing effect on face

 

[BrownBoy]

so what does their mirror reflection signify ?
sorry if its stupid , I don't get it

I wanna make my upper body as big as you/loox WITHOUT putting on too much glycogen
planning ot run very low test/week,my only fear is the ageing effect on face

how much test per week are you thinking?

 

[makeme183]

how much test per week are you thinking?

100mg

 

[Arborist]

so what does their mirror reflection signify ?
sorry if its stupid , I don't get it

it shows them doing it, it will only make sense if you try it yourself to see the difference.

I wanna make my upper body as big as you/loox WITHOUT putting on too much glycogen
planning ot run very low test/week,my only fear is the ageing effect on face

glycogen retention goes in harmony with body-fat, the leaner you are the less you hold, loox is like 14-15% bodyfat and has poor estrogen management which causes him to bloat subcutaneously, you won't look that way.

testosterone doesn't age you in low dosages, it does the opposite, the reason people who use drugs age themselves is because they're on much harsher compounds than just test + run AI's in combination with them and nuking your estrogen is absolutely terrible for your health.

 

[makeme183]

testosterone doesn't age you in low dosages, it does the opposite

In your opinion , how much test/week can you run before its starts looksmining you ?

 

[Arborist]

In your opinion , how much test/week can you run before its starts looksmining you ?

how well you tolerate it is completely individual, I've read reports of people getting gyno on a trt dose.

 

[metaextent]

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incredible progress, drop shoulders routine bro

 

[Arborist]

incredible progress, drop shoulders routine bro

this is unironically what I do.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

it shows them doing it, it will only make sense if you try it yourself to see the difference.


glycogen retention goes in harmony with body-fat, the leaner you are the less you hold, loox is like 14-15% bodyfat and has poor estrogen management which causes him to bloat subcutaneously, you won't look that way.

testosterone doesn't age you in low dosages, it does the opposite, the reason people who use drugs age themselves is because they're on much harsher compounds than just test + run AI's in combination with them and nuking your estrogen is absolutely terrible for your health.

I htought loox was 10 percent bodyfat

 

[Arborist]

I htought loox was 10 percent bodyfat

I don't think you realize how lean 10% is, even I'm not that lean and I have veins running through my entire abdomen.

from this morning.

 

[themanwhoslays]

they're leaning forward into the camera.

if you need it there's nothing wrong with it.

don't got any old pictures in clothes, here's some currently in clothes:
https://looksmax.org/threads/fashionmaxxing-for-summer-2023.683356

what roids bro

 

[Yuno_howitez]

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How did your clavicles get so much longer wow bro

 

[haha]

I don't think you realize how lean 10% is, even I'm not that lean and I have veins running through my entire abdomen.

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from this morning.

Really impressive, do you do incline a lot? Mirin upper chest, im trying to grow mine, tips?

 

[Iteration]

weight lifting isn't even the most important besides from a hormonal aspect, the reason most guys recess is because their skin quality goes to shit from poor sleep habits, not drinking enough water consistently and alcohol/smoking, and balding.

what sets lifting apart isn't the muscle directly, it's the physiological response to having the muscle, it completely shifts how fat distributes around your body, people who are weak tend to store their fat poorly, it goes to their neck and jaw for example, I was skinnyfat before I started lifting, now it just accumulates evenly everywhere with the main patches being on my lower back and inner thighs and ass.

how much water should we be drinking & how much of an effect does water intake have on our body?

 

[ripcordgod1]

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now let's see the face

 

[Arborist]

How did your clavicles get so much longer wow bro

they didn't, it's scapular positioning, my shoulders used to get pulled back because my chest was weak.

how much water should we be drinking & how much of an effect does water intake have on our body?

more than the daily recommended amount, almost twice that if you're physically active.

I average 7~ liters on a normal summer day. most people are chronically dehydrated.

now let's see the face

need to trim beard hair grows too fast.

Really impressive, do you do incline a lot? Mirin upper chest, im trying to grow mine, tips?

I have never done incline bench.

my upper chest grows from overhead press volume.