How bad is my maxilla/midface ?

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I always knew my midface was my weakest third. Just can’t figure out if I need implants or legit surgery. I don’t have an underbite or overbite. and the dentist always said my teeth were fine. Never had braces, only had cavities when I was young.

Still have all my wisdom teeth, all teeth meet when biting.
I attached an analysis/morph from FaceandLMS. Next time I’ll get an X-Ray for better analysis..

So far I have the following flaws:
• Eye bags
• Pseudo tear troughs
• Nasolabial lines/creases
• Slight NCT
• Flat Cheekbones
 

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Surgery>implant
 
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I agree with FaceandLMS here
 
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Holy shit for you not to have a malocclusion your upper ridge must be incredibly forward shifted

facepull/orthognatic surgery
 
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I always knew my midface was my weakest third. Just can’t figure out if I need implants or legit surgery. I don’t have an underbite or overbite. and the dentist always said my teeth were fine. Never had braces, only had cavities when I was young.

Still have all my wisdom teeth, all teeth meet when biting.
I attached an analysis/morph from FaceandLMS. Next time I’ll get an X-Ray for better analysis..

So far I have the following flaws:
• Eye bags
• Pseudo tear troughs
• Nasolabial lines/creases
• Slight NCT
• Flat Cheekbones

you have severe maxillary recession.
Get Lefort 1 Osteotomy asap.
since your maxillary recession is so heavy, a Lefort 2 is possible too
 
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Which part

You need jaw surgery to fix your maxilla. Not having malocclusion makes this tricky though. Normally you would just get bimax to move both the upper and lower jaw forward, but you really shouldn't move the lower jaw any further forward or it will look very unaesthetic. And moving just the upper jaw will create malocclusion.

Talk to a maxillofacial surgeon. See what they say.
 
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bruh your maxilla is so recessed, surgery is ur only hope man
 
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lefort 2 at least
 
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Holy shit for you not to have a malocclusion your upper ridge must be incredibly forward shifted

facepull/orthognatic surgery
Right.. it’s like my genetics put all the forward growth in my mandible and chin and forgot my maxilla lol
You need jaw surgery to fix your maxilla. Not having malocclusion makes this tricky though. Normally you would just get bimax to move both the upper and lower jaw forward, but you really shouldn't move the lower jaw any further forward or it will look very unaesthetic. And moving just the upper jaw will create malocclusion.

Talk to a maxillofacial surgeon. See what they say.
I’ll definitely see what they say. Yeah I’d say my case is rare considering my teeth aren’t fucked up like most cases.
 
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wtf is going on in this thread?
 
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do you have a slaycount?

also what age are you?
 
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because if you can slay then your maxilla isn't relevant.
Let’s just say it’s above 10 lol.. but it is relevant. I want to age gracefully and not look like a sagging potato lmao
 
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report breathing problems and sleep apnea
and you can get it for free
 
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Unnamed 1
 
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Hey man, off topic, but did your dad come back from the store?
 
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What was your tongue position during childhood OP?
 
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report breathing problems and sleep apnea
and you can get it for free

who would you tell this to
i always wanted to see if i could get my insurance to pay for facial surgery by claiming i cant breath with this shit maxilla
please fix it
 
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You need at least a lefort 2. Yout maxilla is recessed enough for doctors to perform lefort 2 on it so you won't have much problem finding a willing surgeon.
 
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very weird case ngl. it doesn't even look pheno related because the mandible doesn't look recessed at all. have you by any chance rested the tongue on the floor of your mouth your whole life?
 
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very weird case ngl. it doesn't even look pheno related because the mandible doesn't look recessed at all. have you by any chance rested the tongue on the floor of your mouth your whole life?
Possibly.. never was a mouth breather.. but at the same time I don’t remember specifically having my tongue on my roof or “mewing” to put force on the maxilla. It honestly doesn’t make sense, lower forward chin/mandible growth but no upper ? And in every lefort case the teeth are jacked up or have severe under/overbite
 
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Possibly.. never was a mouth breather.. but at the same time I don’t remember specifically having my tongue on my roof or “mewing” to put force on the maxilla. It honestly doesn’t make sense, lower forward chin/mandible growth but no upper ? And in every lefort case the teeth are jacked up or have severe under/overbite
some people can actually talk like that and they sound normal all without ever touching the palate, not sure how that happens but the result is a sunken maxilla. I think it's rare because it's extremely visible when talking and they probably get told to correct it at a young age most of the time
 
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I always knew my midface was my weakest third. Just can’t figure out if I need implants or legit surgery. I don’t have an underbite or overbite. and the dentist always said my teeth were fine. Never had braces, only had cavities when I was young.

Still have all my wisdom teeth, all teeth meet when biting.
I attached an analysis/morph from FaceandLMS. Next time I’ll get an X-Ray for better analysis..

So far I have the following flaws:
• Eye bags
• Pseudo tear troughs
• Nasolabial lines/creases
• Slight NCT
• Flat Cheekbones
ngl, your maxilla is pretty fucking recessed
you need to get a lefort 2, lefort 1 is not gonna cut it
go to a maxillofacial surgeon and go through the procedure, no one will turn you down since you seem to have midface hypoplasia, you're actually a perfect candidate for it
 
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ngl, your maxilla is pretty fucking recessed
you need to get a lefort 2, lefort 1 is not gonna cut it
go to a maxillofacial surgeon and go through the procedure, no one will turn you down since you seem to have midface hypoplasia, you're actually a perfect candidate for it
i don’t think that’ll help.. my profile looks like the one on the right except I don’t have an underbite. My upper teeth go over my bottom. Perfect bite. Moving the upper jaw forward will result in malocclusion like @BlackPillChad said
 

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Jesus you would ascend hard with a surgery.
 
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i don’t think that’ll help.. my profile looks like the one on the right except I don’t have an underbite. My upper teeth go over my bottom. Perfect bite. Moving the upper jaw forward will result in malocclusion like @BlackPillChad said
bro that's such a weird case, i really don't know what to say really
the best advice i can give you is go talk to an experienced maxillofacial surgeon, he'll definitely come up with something
Jesus you would ascend hard with a surgery.
yeah lmao, he would become gigatyrone if his maxilla wasn't so ogred
 
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looks dont matter bro
1510045612 funny face tongue 204
 
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bro that's such a weird case, i really don't know what to say really
the best advice i can give you is go talk to an experienced maxillofacial surgeon, he'll definitely come up with something

yeah lmao, he would become gigatyrone if his maxilla wasn't so ogred
scheduling an appointment next week bro 👍🏾
 
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Could you please PM me a pic of your teeth/occlusion ? Atm it's hard to say what surgery you would need
 
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mogs mine to oblivion
 
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This guy has a great maxilla wtf
 
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So my mouth area is protruded too much then giving the illusion of a recessed maxilla?
U have maxillary progthanism I think, I think it's common in blacks

Thats why I'm pretty sure

you fucked girls before
 
U have maxillary progthanism I think, I think it's common in blacks

Thats why I'm pretty sure

you fucked girls before
My ortho said I don’t have it. But I’ll know for sure when I see my surgeon
 
I told you before I got a similar issue, tho my mandible is nowhere near as foward grown as yours. I recommend trying to schedule a consultation with william hang if you have access to your orthodontics pictures. I have been talking to him back and forth the past 3 or 4 days and he answers a lot of questions for free.

He is also versed in orthotropics so hes not Jewish. See what he says.

I got a surgery consultation with Reza Movahed
 
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I always knew my midface was my weakest third. Just can’t figure out if I need implants or legit surgery. I don’t have an underbite or overbite. and the dentist always said my teeth were fine. Never had braces, only had cavities when I was young.

Still have all my wisdom teeth, all teeth meet when biting.
I attached an analysis/morph from FaceandLMS. Next time I’ll get an X-Ray for better analysis..

So far I have the following flaws:
• Eye bags
• Pseudo tear troughs
• Nasolabial lines/creases
• Slight NCT
• Flat Cheekbones
insurance can pay for ur lefort
 
Good mandible and chin length
Maxilla seems ok-ish its the zygos that are recessed for some reason despite non-recessed maxxila
Coincidentally i have kinda same side profile as you
 
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I told you before I got a similar issue, tho my mandible is nowhere near as foward grown as yours. I recommend trying to schedule a consultation with william hang if you have access to your orthodontics pictures. I have been talking to him back and forth the past 3 or 4 days and he answers a lot of questions for free.

He is also versed in orthotropics so hes not Jewish. See what he says.

I got a surgery consultation with Reza Movahed
I’m seeing Dr Marciewicz
 

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