How can I get Nardil? Need help with very high inhib.

[Elias144]

My inhib is way too high and I'm running out of options. I know a lot will say high inhib is just because I'm subhuman but it isn't true. My lived experience suggests I'm somewhere between mtn and htn. The feedback I get from society is actually good, but it doesn't matter my inhib is still crazy high.

I work at a doctor's office where I interact with at least 15 new people every day, so it's not like I'm not exercising my social muscle. I'm also on a baseball team and I volunteer at two different places for a few hours every week. People like me and try to talk to/befriend me, but I'm way too quiet and it's off-putting. I get caught in analysis paralysis and most of the time end up saying nothing/very little, or saying something really generic. I'm simply not very fun to be around because I'm too serious and don't say much. I really want to be more lighthearted and stop overthinking everything.

I've tried so many drugs and not much works.

• Alcohol is OK sometimes, but mostly it just makes me morose and go nonverbal.
• Benzos put me to sleep.
• Pregabalin and gabapentin do literally nothing.
• Microdosing psychedelics is placebo. Macrodosing is effective for coping with existential dread but not for lowering inhib.
• Stimulants can give you an ego boost but accelerate your brain activity which is counterproductive when overthinking is at the root of the issue.
• Antidepressant reuptake inhibitor type drugs are absolutely placebo- I tried 6 different meds and got nothing from any of them. Literally nothing, not even any negative side effects.
• Beta-blockers are useless because my anxiety isn't physical.
• Opioids can be effective when desperate but terrible to take long term.
• Dissociatives are effective, but make you literally retarded and you can't work, study, or drive while on them.
• Phenibut is the best thing I've tried, but only for the afterglow. I feel nothing directly from phenibut, but the day after I feel extremely low inhib while also feeling 100% sober. The problem is that you can't take it every day.

I want to try Nardil now because I believe it could help. I'm hoping it could provide a similar feeling to the phenibut afterglow, but every day instead of just once a week. It's literally fucking impossible to get it though. It's nowhere to be found on any grey/black market. Getting it prescribed is apparently hopeless. I've been to 4 different psych providers (2 NPs, 1 MD, 1 PA) and they refuse to prescribe it. I'm frustrated that this is so inaccessible. It's literally the only drug I've never been able to find. Truthfully it probably won't help me, but it's still worth trying. Is it even possible to get it online? Has anyone ever found it? How do you get a doctor to prescribe it? My next option is steroids, but I wanted to avoid that if possible.



tldr:
Is there anywhere you can get Nardil online? Any tips to get it prescribed without having to try and fail every other antidepressant ever invented first?

 

[Alexander Sorgers]

youve found an answer yet?

 

[Askeladd93270]

What about propranolol I tried to buy some without an ordononce today but the pharmacist was a soylent enjoyer so he told me to fuck off basically these guys have no heart we're out struggling and they want us to stay boring nerds like them

 

[Elias144]

What about propranolol I tried to buy some without an ordononce today but the pharmacist was a soylent enjoyer so he told me to fuck off basically these guys have no heart we're out struggling and they want us to stay boring nerds like them

Propranolol will work if your problem is physical symptoms of anxiety like sweating, rapid heart beat, jitters, etc. For me it's mostly a mental block so it won't work. If you want to try propranolol it should be pretty easy to find.

 

[Elias144]

youve found an answer yet?

No, right now I'm shopping around on various telehealth platforms.

 

[Askeladd93270]

Propranolol will work if your problem is physical symptoms of anxiety like sweating, rapid heart beat, jitters, etc. For me it's mostly a mental block so it won't work. If you want to try propranolol it should be pretty easy to find.

That's weird bc I only have the physical symptoms, I like my thought but everytime I have to do something social alone half of the time my stomach hurts and my voice shakes but if I'm with a friend I become Trevor in gta5 idk why, my brain is against my soul, I could literally cold approach a grandma walking with her family of 20 if I'm with a good friend

 

[Bitterschön]

I have both a Nardil and Parnate source. Where are you from?

 

[Elias144]

I have both a Nardil and Parnate source. Where are you from?

I'm in the USA. Actually I managed to get a prescription since I made this post, I'm going to start it tomorrow. Still, if you're willing to share, I'm curious of your source since I wasn't able to find any.

 

[Bitterschön]

I'm in the USA. Actually I managed to get a prescription since I made this post, I'm going to start it tomorrow. Still, if you're willing to share, I'm curious of your source since I wasn't able to find any.

I see. Its an EU source only anyway. I bought Parnate but Nardil sounds good too. What made you choose Nardil over Parnate?

 

[Elias144]

I see. Its an EU source only anyway. I bought Parnate but Nardil sounds good too. What made you choose Nardil over Parnate?

Deep-seated anxiety. Like anxiety that does not improve despite positive feedback from society/friends/family/girls. I'm attracted to the GABA component of Nardil. I already went the stimulant route, and ultimately they weren't very effective for me. Also, more GABA specific drugs are too sedating (benzos, phenibut, pregabalin). So I'm hoping the GABA effects + increased levels of all other monoamines will give me the effect I'm looking for.

 

[Bitterschön]

Deep-seated anxiety. Like anxiety that does not improve despite positive feedback from society/friends/family/girls. I'm attracted to the GABA component of Nardil. I already went the stimulant route, and ultimately they weren't very effective for me. Also, more GABA specific drugs are too sedating (benzos, phenibut, pregabalin). So I'm hoping the GABA effects + increased levels of all other monoamines will give me the effect I'm looking for.

I see. I relate a lot. Ive the same kind of deep-rooted anxiety and didnt respond well to stimulants either. Since Parnate is more stimulating, do you know if people who dont do well on stimulants also tend to not respond to Parnate? Nardil might be a better option for me as well, but cba dealing with the weight gain tbh. Gonna start Parnate tomorrow and see. Nardil will be 2nd option.

 

[Elias144]

I see. I relate a lot. Ive the same kind of deep-rooted anxiety and didnt respond well to stimulants either. Since Parnate is more stimulating, do you know if people who dont do well on stimulants also tend to not respond to Parnate? Nardil might be a better option for me as well, but cba dealing with the weight gain tbh. Gonna start Parnate tomorrow and see. Nardil will be 2nd option.

I'm just assuming it won't work as well, because I don't need stimulation I need disinhibition. I'm going to start Tirzepatide too to prevent weight gain.

 

[Bitterschön]

I'm just assuming it won't work as well, because I don't need stimulation I need disinhibition. I'm going to start Tirzepatide too to prevent weight gain.

I unironically need both. Fucked up. Keep me updated please

 

[Bitterschön]

Any updates? Im on Nardil now as well. Day 4.

 

[Elias144]

Any updates? Im on Nardil now as well. Day 4.

Honestly so far (it's been ~2.5 weeks) it's worked incredibly well for me- it feels like the exact drug I've been searching for. Almost like I'm on Adderall but without the "high" and no crash. I'm also still only at half the therapeutic dose so I'm expecting even greater improvement. Basically every aspect of my life has improved since I started taking it. I get way better sleep, I'm less bloated, studying better, doing better at work, stronger at the gym, better at baseball, having way more meaningful convos with everyone, I'm able to flirt with girls again. It's crazy man. I'm feeling very resentful towards all the people who refused to give this to me even though I begged for months. I hope it can work this good for you. I will say I'm a bit wary though because it almost seems too good to be true.

 

[Bitterschön]

Honestly so far (it's been ~2.5 weeks) it's worked incredibly well for me- it feels like the exact drug I've been searching for. Almost like I'm on Adderall but without the "high" and no crash. I'm also still only at half the therapeutic dose so I'm expecting even greater improvement. Basically every aspect of my life has improved since I started taking it. I get way better sleep, I'm less bloated, studying better, doing better at work, stronger at the gym, better at baseball, having way more meaningful convos with everyone, I'm able to flirt with girls again. It's crazy man. I'm feeling very resentful towards all the people who refused to give this to me even though I begged for months. I hope it can work this good for you. I will say I'm a bit wary though because it almost seems too good to be true.

Good stuff man, I am happy to hear that. I am still taking 2x15 mg each day. I will probably go up to 3x15 mg on day 8 and stay there until day 14. I do not have any side effects at all so far. Except on day 1 when I slept from 5 PM until around 6 AM (lmao) and yesterday on day 3 when it took a bit longer to fall asleep. I have a feeling this will be the right med. It is just sad that I only found out about it after wasting probably the most important years in a persons life.

 

[Elias144]

Good stuff man, I am happy to hear that. I am still taking 2x15 mg each day. I will probably go up to 3x15 mg on day 8 and stay there until day 14. I do not have any side effects at all so far. Except on day 1 when I slept from 5 PM until around 6 AM (lmao) and yesterday on day 3 when it took a bit longer to fall asleep. I have a feeling this will be the right med. It is just sad that I only found out about it after wasting probably the most important years in a persons life.

Yeah I feel the same. I'm 23 but I still think there's some time to enjoy my youth. It does make me really angry thinking about how this was available for all those years I was struggling and not one "provider" ever recommended it to me. Then in the last few months I saw three different people and they all refused to give it to me, saying it's "too dangerous" meanwhile I was on the brink of suicide. Could've been out fucking stacy and shit bro instead I was alone in my dorm, depressed and crippled by anxiety and low self esteem.

 

[Bitterschön]

Yeah I feel the same. I'm 23 but I still think there's some time to enjoy my youth. It does make me really angry thinking about how this was available for all those years I was struggling and not one "provider" ever recommended it to me. Then in the last few months I saw three different people and they all refused to give it to me, saying it's "too dangerous" meanwhile I was on the brink of suicide. Could've been out fucking stacy and shit bro instead I was alone in my dorm, depressed and crippled by anxiety and low self esteem.

Same situation here bro, except I am 24. My social anxiety was so bad, I was scared to even step into a gym or go jogging during the day until I was around 23 1/2 years old (Meditations from Marc Aurel helped me at that time). I do not even want to talk about girls, friends, school grades, personal growth and so on. I failed in every area. Nardil does not even exist in Germany btw, so I am using that as a cope. But I have to wait and see how things go with Nardil first. Maybe it is not the right med for me, even though I really doubt that.

Anyway, enjoy your youth from now on brother.

 

[StfuRomeo]

I'm in the USA. Actually I managed to get a prescription since I made this post, I'm going to start it tomorrow. Still, if you're willing to share, I'm curious of your source since I wasn't able to find any.

Hey I'm also in the US, if you don't mind me asking, how did you get the prescription?

 

[Elias144]

Hey I'm also in the US, if you don't mind me asking, how did you get the prescription?

Telehealth platform, told them the reason I was signing up was because I want a drug called Nardil. Asked to be seen by an MD only (no PA or NP). When I talked with him I told him right off the bat that I want Nardil and that's why I was seeing him. I told him every drug I've tried and failed (make sure you say you've failed various SSRI, NDRI, Antipsychotics, Tricyclic, Stimulants, Beta Blocker, Benzos, and various combinations of those). Also made it very clear that I understand all the "risks" associated with the drug. If they don't give it to you, ask for your care to be transferred to a different doctor, or look for a different telehealth platform to try. I used "Brightside Health".