How can people on here seriously say gymcelling is cope?

[WishIwasChico]

Just go out plenty of girls Who look like that in bologna

Me and @cytoplasm are on our way lol

 

[WishIwasChico]

I haven’t took it n a year Jew scam telling me it’s good for my ocd/ADHD when it facts kills kid and make em opioid addicts like me suffering daily

 

[Looks234]

Where and when did I say its cope? I literally gymcel myself

Yea but gymcelling can have the impact of a 96th percentile face.

A smvmaxxed chadlite mogs a psl god

 

[falcon1]

Yea but gymcelling can have the impact of a 96th percentile face.

A smvmaxxed chadlite mogs a psl god

These bitches love my sasa ye they know it Goya’s and rover

 

[tombradylover]

Yea but gymcelling can have the impact of a 96th percentile face.

A smvmaxxed chadlite mogs a psl god

Ehhh im not sure about muscles/body having the same effect as 96th percentile face. BUT if both guys are close in attractiveness facially then of course the gymaxxed chadlite wins.

 

[WishIwasChico]

who does better on tinder @tombradylover i guess they would be the same by your logic then? It's the same person btw

 

[tombradylover]

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who does better on tinder @tombradylover i guess they would be the same by your logic then?

My guy relax. I never said gym ceiling is cope. No need to get upset. A much better-looking guy of similar height with the worse body still mogs this guy. Same faced guy obviously looks better now with a better body. Come on man.

 

[tombradylover]

who does better on tinder @tombradylover i guess they would be the same by your logic then? It's the same person btw
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My logic is this. A 96th percentile faced guy will mop the floor with gymaxxed HTNs' and below. When the facial attrativness is similar then halos like height and muscles can give a guy an edge over the other. Not sure whats so wrong about this statement.

 

[WishIwasChico]

My guy relax. I never said gym ceiling is cope. No need to get upset. A much better-looking guy of similar height with the worse body still mogs this guy. Same faced guy obviously looks better now with a better body. Come on man.

Yes looks are always number 1 i never denied or will deny that but 80% of men are not facially attractive to women so for 80% of men gymcelling, finanical status etc. play a seriously important part in attraction. Unfortunately 95% will not be chad or PSL god but that does not mean they cannot slay.

 

[tombradylover]

Yes looks are always number 1 i never denied or will deny that but 80% of men are not facially attractive to women so for 80% of men gymcelling, finanical status etc. play a seriously important part in attraction. Unfortunately 95% will not be chad or PSL god but that does not mean they cannot slay.

This is true and I dont disagree at all. This is why I say gymcelling isn't cope and everyone should be doing it. Its literally FREE bonus points to ur SMV lol and ur right most people are normie in face so height, body, etc will be the determining factors in their success unless they somehow improve their face. Im glad we agree lol was just miscommunication

 

[WishIwasChico]

But also, sex appeal and objectively attractive are different in my opinion like the examples i give in my thread at the beginning.

 

[tombradylover]

But also, sex appeal and objectively attractive are different in my opinion like the examples i give in my thread at the beginning.

While I do agree with this, I think u could have used better example no offense. The gymmaxxed guy lowkey has a good face already lmao

 

[RAITEIII]

I like it you have your point and they have theirs.

Better be gymmaxxed.

 

[Johanjohan]

Fuck a nice ass is so insane halo

But girls still need to have an ok face

 

[St.TikTokcel]

A common theme I’ve noticed recently is people on this site being divided: Gymcel is legit/ Gymcel is cope.

The ones that argue ‘Gymcel is cope’ often use examples of 2/10s with gymmaxed bodies and say ‘no gym for face’ or use examples of chico or loox and say ‘he doesn’t need gym!’ It’s pretty obvious to see how their argument is a falio already. They draw their arguments on outliers or extremes i.e. 2-3s (extreme low scale facially) or 8-10s (extremely high facially). Of course, face matters and at these extremes as they are so low or high, nobody will save, height, or anything. It is the same for women. A 2/10 facially woman who suddenly goes from having a flat chest/ass to a big ass and tits is still no going to be hot as her face is repulsively that that is all you can see. But what about most people? What about the people who fall into the normal range? For guys this means your face isn’t repulsive but not enough striking enough to stand out. For women, this means most guys would fuck but high-value men etc. are not staying.

Before we go back to that let’s remember that sex appeal and objectively being attractive are two totally different things. That’s why the most popular pornstars are not objectively beautiful but have giga good bodies like Mia Khalifa etc. or a perfect one is Abella Danger. She is legit objectively no higher than MTB but has insane sex appeal due to her butt.

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If she wasn't a PAWG she would literally have so much less sex appeal it would be insane.


To put this into perspective take these two examples:

Sex appeal but not objectively stunning


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Vs objectively beautiful:

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Ask yourself: which one would you fuck?



Being PSL god is overrated and most autists here do not recognise it. You DO NOT need to be a PSL god to be successful with women. The only benefits of being a PSL god or supermodel tier are to become just that… A SUPERMODEL.

Some people are good to look at and some people you want to fuck – there is a difference. Loox for example, a lot of girls would admit he is good looking but would they want to fuck him right there and then?



A perfect example is below imo:

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This girl is facially average and anyone saying otherwise is a complete simp tbh but regardless. Imagine for a second she A) Had no butt whatsoever B) was giga overweight And C) was giga thin

It’s pretty obvious to see how this would affect her mating opportunities. Her ass skyrockets her sex appeal.


I’ve used women for examples as it’s easy to demonstrate considering this site is male-dominated but women as everyone here is aware are just as much visual as men. Just look at all the stories online of men who were fat and got into shape or giga thin and got ripped and how women treated them differently.


A quick one on males just to cover this also:



This is a supermodel and has a top 1% objective face. VS a MTN-HTN who is ripped:


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Lucky blue smith (supermodel) mogs the ripped guy facially to death but I promise you that the ripped guy would hook up with way more chicks than him as his sex appeal is much higher.

Like ask yourself: does that frail supermodel look like the type of man that women get wet for? The type of man who she fantasises about picking her up and throwing her around in the bedroom and submitting to? No it does not. The other guy does however.



If you want hookups then improving your sex appeal mogs autistic PSL. End of.

Gymcelling is a cope if you have klinefelter's which 70% of .org users do.

 

[Myth]

Gymcelling is a cope if you have klinefelter's which 70% of .org users do.

I’d literally never heard of this till I was on this site

 

[St.TikTokcel]

I’d literally never heard of this till I was on this site

lowIQ trait.

 

[zainab]

A common theme I’ve noticed recently is people on this site being divided: Gymcel is legit/ Gymcel is cope.

The ones that argue ‘Gymcel is cope’ often use examples of 2/10s with gymmaxed bodies and say ‘no gym for face’ or use examples of chico or loox and say ‘he doesn’t need gym!’ It’s pretty obvious to see how their argument is a falio already. They draw their arguments on outliers or extremes i.e. 2-3s (extreme low scale facially) or 8-10s (extremely high facially). Of course, face matters and at these extremes as they are so low or high, nobody will save, height, or anything. It is the same for women. A 2/10 facially woman who suddenly goes from having a flat chest/ass to a big ass and tits is still no going to be hot as her face is repulsively that that is all you can see. But what about most people? What about the people who fall into the normal range? For guys this means your face isn’t repulsive but not enough striking enough to stand out. For women, this means most guys would fuck but high-value men etc. are not staying.

Before we go back to that let’s remember that sex appeal and objectively being attractive are two totally different things. That’s why the most popular pornstars are not objectively beautiful but have giga good bodies like Mia Khalifa etc. or a perfect one is Abella Danger. She is legit objectively no higher than MTB but has insane sex appeal due to her butt.

View attachment 2266330

If she wasn't a PAWG she would literally have so much less sex appeal it would be insane.


To put this into perspective take these two examples:

Sex appeal but not objectively stunning


View attachment 2266320


Vs objectively beautiful:

View attachment 2266321




Ask yourself: which one would you fuck?



Being PSL god is overrated and most autists here do not recognise it. You DO NOT need to be a PSL god to be successful with women. The only benefits of being a PSL god or supermodel tier are to become just that… A SUPERMODEL.

Some people are good to look at and some people you want to fuck – there is a difference. Loox for example, a lot of girls would admit he is good looking but would they want to fuck him right there and then?



A perfect example is below imo:

View attachment 2266323


This girl is facially average and anyone saying otherwise is a complete simp tbh but regardless. Imagine for a second she A) Had no butt whatsoever B) was giga overweight And C) was giga thin

It’s pretty obvious to see how this would affect her mating opportunities. Her ass skyrockets her sex appeal.


I’ve used women for examples as it’s easy to demonstrate considering this site is male-dominated but women as everyone here is aware are just as much visual as men. Just look at all the stories online of men who were fat and got into shape or giga thin and got ripped and how women treated them differently.


A quick one on males just to cover this also:



This is a supermodel and has a top 1% objective face. VS a MTN-HTN who is ripped:


View attachment 2266334


View attachment 2266336

Lucky blue smith (supermodel) mogs the ripped guy facially to death but I promise you that the ripped guy would hook up with way more chicks than him as his sex appeal is much higher.

Like ask yourself: does that frail supermodel look like the type of man that women get wet for? The type of man who she fantasises about picking her up and throwing her around in the bedroom and submitting to? No it does not. The other guy does however.



If you want hookups then improving your sex appeal mogs autistic PSL. End of.

If your are ltn it’s cope. Otherwise it’s legit.

 

[Myth]

lowIQ trait.

It is what it is

 

[St.TikTokcel]

It is what it is

 

[Kamui]

A quick one on males just to cover this also:



This is a supermodel and has a top 1% objective face. VS a MTN-HTN who is ripped:


View attachment 2266334


View attachment 2266336

Lucky blue smith (supermodel) mogs the ripped guy facially to death but I promise you that the ripped guy would hook up with way more chicks than him as his sex appeal is much higher.

Like ask yourself: does that frail supermodel look like the type of man that women get wet for? The type of man who she fantasises about picking her up and throwing her around in the bedroom and submitting to? No it does not. The other guy does however.



If you want hookups then improving your sex appeal mogs autistic PSL. End of.

Sex appeal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> autistic aesthetics made up by basement dwellers who’ve never left the comforts of their home

 

[St.TikTokcel]

who’ve never left the comforts of their home

I do on a daily basis, bigot.

 

[Kamui]

gymceling separates actual blackpillers from the losers who just can't find the motivation to live if they don't get everything handed to them

Professional rotters who encourage everyone else to LDAR makes me cage. Niggas are hypocritical af and think that all foids desire Chad whilst simultaneously thinking that they should wake up and be Chads and get a Stacy.

 

[Kamui]

I do on a daily basis, bigot.

Also men care about bodies, we care about breast and ass size.
Women don't give a single fuck about your tier of gymcelling.
If they care about the size of anything, it's DICK size

If you gymcel like you’re trying to go for Mr. Olympia then yeah no shit foids would consider that unattractive. On the contrary it’s a literal fact majority of foids are attracted to an imposing body (broad shoulders, big arms, nice chest, abs etc). All of these things correlate with sex appeal equally.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

(broad shoulders, big arms, nice chest, abs etc).

You're born with these. Klinfelter's victims like myself will never have these. I have narrow sloped shoulders and wide hips. My goal as of now is to reach pic related physique within 2 years.

 

[Kamui]

You're born with these. Klinfelter's victims like myself will never have these. I have narrow sloped shoulders and wide hips. My goal as of now is to reach pic related physique within 2 years.
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Brutal

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Brutal

 

[DelonLover1999]

high iq thread, nicely worded and organized too, mirin

ill just add that some people go overboard with gymcelling and don’t realize that being too muscle-bound is not appealing to many women

 

[WishIwasChico]

people go overboard with gymcelling and don’t realize that being too muscle-bound is not appealing to many women

I agree. I think they get tricked as once they get bigger/ripped they get more attention from women and more respect so their mind thinks = more bigger = more attention/respect (success) but obviously this linear thinking doesn't work but you can see how your mind can be tricked into thinking that by being positively reinforced.

 

[WishIwasChico]

5 Reasons Both Women and Men Care About Big Muscles

2. Women appreciate them; men are intimidated by them.

www.psychologytoday.com

Researchers have found that a man’s physical formidability is a better predictor than his attractiveness for how many partners he has had.

In the study, researchers recorded short videos of 157 different men. Next, another group of men watched these videos. Researchers asked them a question about each of the men in the videos: “How likely is it that this man would win a physical fight with another man?” They used a scale ranging from “extremely likely” to “extremely unlikely.”


A group of women also viewed the videos. They responded to a question about each of the men: “How sexually attractive is this man?” They used a scale ranging from “extremely unattractive” to “extremely attractive.”

Eighteen months later, the men in the videos completed a questionnaire asking about their sexual history over the 18 months. How tough a guy looked to men predicted his reported mating success better than how attractive he looked to women. The researchers concluded, “Men with higher physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, reported higher quantitative mating success.”


In fact, some evolutionary psychologists have argued that throughout human history, dominance has been more important than attractiveness for men’s mating success.

This starts to question whether is it women who we should be trying to impress or is it other men we should be trying to utterly mog/dominate? Remember, a woman will pick the most alpha etc. in a room for the short-term so it makes sense that being the most dominant looking etc. in the room as a male means men would treat him with respect which women would see and thus find him more attractive. The social/staus of being tall and strong looking add such a halo then add a thick stubble to this and a strong jaw and he would literally slay so hard it's not funny.

 

[TheMaxxer333]

Ok one you fuck and throwaway the other you breed with and raise mogger children together

 

[robtical]

Men care far more about body than face. Opposite for female. And in the example you use, its frame mog too instead of just muscle differences.

You have frame + you pass height n face check. gymcel is boost.

 

[Sprinkles]

foid equivalent of ass/tits/curves is height and frame

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

Attraction is similar but very different

Shitskins version of the English language @HTNcutecel

 

[tombradylover]

Shitskins version of the English language @HTNcutecel

keep barking for me sheeboon lover

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

@WishIwasChico what is ideal phisique in 2024?

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

keep barking for me sheeboon lover

Me when a sheboon enters my vicinity

 

[WishIwasChico]

@WishIwasChico what is ideal phisique in 2024?

Mine

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

Mine

Can you pm pics?

 

[HTNcutecel]

@WishIwasChico what is ideal phisique in 2024?

 

[Meteor21]

I always knew it wasn't cope but after seeing the AlphaDestiny experiment I realize it makes even more of a difference than I thought. Bro is a 5'3 bald mtn and getting good matches

 

[Bojack]

It helps with my mind, just wish I could do it like I used too. I clipped about an hour of training this morning though.