How come people are atheist

[brutalcow62]

Atheists will reject God before they’ve even figured out what God means

hey bub you gave me a ban warning watch out

 

[anemo]

You're fourteen, either that or you've turned 14 a few months ago. Besides that you act like one aswell , you can't even space out your paragraphs. Really?

I brought up your age because of your baseless claim that atheism is based upon ignorance. As it's quiet impossible for someone to be or to act like 14 one and call others ignorant on a subject


It is when you bring up your own words


Is this not your own words? What happened to do hours of research ? Now tell me have you or have you not read atheist texts surely counter points make up your "hours of research"


You haven't given an argument do I need to quote your post again ?

Where's the metaphysical claim you've made ? I'm not going to go looking for one as you're the one that started this conversation.

The goy that started this convo with

"Atheism is a result of ignorance"

Claims I'm a dumbass, laughable


What are these things ? The thing part is Incrediblly vague for no clear purpose. Nether the less most objects or animals can have an explanation for why they exist.

im calling God omnicidal because he is.

He genocides the vast majority of humanity leaving noah and some others to live. He kills them because of a mistake he made.

The mistake being the creation of Adam and eve because of these two people we are all born to suffer for a crime we didn't commit.

Nether the less ill be going to bed, so excuse me for spelling errors and so on besides all that I'm trying on a small phone with big fingers, yeah excuse all that

Again my age is completely irrelevant in the premise of this convo dont know why you keep coping with it. and yes, i said that a few hours of actually studying Christianity and metaphysics/Thomism can give someone enough to form a rational conclusion that God exists. i don't see the contradiction you're trying to point out. i also never said if you read christian books you will magically believe. the point is that if you actually study the arguments instead of treating God as a primitive explanation for things we don't understand, you encounter philosophical arguments for God's existence that have nothing to do with christian sources "saying so". Now, if you think these atheist authors/books refute the arguments such as the five ways, give me their actual objections. You keep saying i havent given you a metaphysical argument which i very clearly have but you mustve not understood, so here. you said objects and animals can have explanations for why they exist okay? then what ultimately explains the existence of contingent things? And i'm not asking what caused this particular object i'm asking why there is a reality composed of things that don't have the reason for their existence within themselves. if A depends on B, and B depends on C, you've explained A through B and B through C. but if everything you're appealing to is itself dependent, you haven't explained why the whole dependent order exists in the first place. and before you say “well maybe the universe just exists” this is not an explanation you've just declared the ultimate fact to be brute. My position is that contingent reality ultimately requires something that isn't contingent,something whose existence isn't received from another. thats already one metaphysical argument for a necessary being. and yeah for the omnicidal argument you keep saying God is omnicidal as if putting a label on something proves the label. be more logical. you also need to establish that God's judgment in the Flood was objectively unjust. God killed people wont get you there. causing someone's death and unjustly murdering someone aren't synonymous. then you also say god made a mistake by creating adam and eve, which is in the same boat its an assertion. if God knew Adam and eve would sin before creating them, then your not showing a mistake at all, you've described a deliberate act performed with foreknowledge. to prove it was a mistake, you have to establish that creating free creatures who God knew would fall is incompatible with God's purpose or goodness. which you cant. and the original sin argument is just factually wrong about Catholicism. Catholicism doesn't teach that i personally committed Adam's sin and am being punished for an action i personally performed.
original sin is the inherited deprivation of original holiness and justice, a fallen condition of human nature. argue that doctrine is unjust all you want, but if you are going to at least argue against what Catholics actually believe . and even after all of this, you still are yet to give me an argument for atheism. i see you arguing about multiple different things besides the actual metaphysical question i gave you? quit coping withmy age etc and tell me why its false.

 

[anemo]

He's a nazi. Objectively he's a nazi .like what are you even talking about ?

Don't care to argue to much about read this

From Alt-Right To Groyper

INTRODUCTION During 2016, the white nationalist movement began a period of substantial growth that has not yet been abated. This growth has been occasioned by a number of factors. The polarization of the population along political, geographic, religious and racial lines. The anti-immigrant...

irehr.org

jeez ur just retarded LMAO. tell me youve never watched the show a day in your life or know any of his actual ideals and just listen to mainstream media without telling me

 

[delons]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

dnr

 

[Outlander]

how can you be religious and blackpilled at the same time JFL

religion is a cope and waste of time even IF it were true

 

[anemo]

That only works if you assume punishment has to be proportional to how long the act took. the catholic church view doesn't treat sin like 80 years of sin = 80 years of punishment. Sin is a disorder of the will ultimately a rejection of the highest good, God. The issue is what the will chose. And after 40 trillion years the original 80 years becomes insignificant doesnt make sense either. Time passing doesn't somehow make a moral act less morally significant. If you want to argue hell is unjust, show why finite duration of the act necessarily means punishment must also be finite.

simple, some of the shit dont make sense

Eternal hell is a long time

I think after burning in hell for 40 trillion years at some point the ~80 years you spent sinning on earth is insignificant lol

Doesn’t make sense to be eternally punished for sins committed in a finite time span

 

[anemo]

He's a nazi. Objectively he's a nazi .like what are you even talking about ?

Don't care to argue to much about read this

From Alt-Right To Groyper

INTRODUCTION During 2016, the white nationalist movement began a period of substantial growth that has not yet been abated. This growth has been occasioned by a number of factors. The polarization of the population along political, geographic, religious and racial lines. The anti-immigrant...

irehr.org

but yeah, i genuinely feel sorry for you. ill pray for you. your intellect is so very clearly darkened , you will find the truth or atleast i hope you will.

 

[anemo]

How is it cope? is being logical cope now? sorry, im not unintelligent.

 

[Outlander]

How is it cope? is being logical cope now? sorry, im not unintelligent.

Like that other user said, I do not understand how anyone can be blackpilled and religious simultaneously kek. You gotta be delusional as fuck. In a hypothetical there is a god, and he is all powerful, he cannot be all good since there is so much suffering in the life of many of us. Being logical is assuming that there is no God, and assuming with strong belief there is one despite what life is like is pure delusion

 

[anemo]

Like that other user said, I do not understand how anyone can be blackpilled and religious simultaneously kek. You gotta be delusional as fuck. In a hypothetical there is a god, and he is all powerful, he cannot be all good since there is so much suffering in the life of many of us. Being logical is assuming that there is no God, and assuming with strong belief there is one despite what life is like is pure delusion

God can allow suffering because he created rational creatures with real free will. if God prevented every harmful choice, you wouldn’t have genuine freedom you’d have creatures whose choices are constantly overridden. first prove that an all good God cannot have a morally sufficient reason for permitting suffering? to sum it up for you, you cant btw.

 

[AbnormalAfrican]

but yeah, i genuinely feel sorry for you. ill pray for you. your intellect is so very clearly darkened , you will find the truth or atleast i hope you will.

What happened to trying to argue, I vibe you a source and you don't even try to read it ? Lmao moron

 

[Mecha-Man]

how can you be religious and blackpilled at the same time JFL

religion is a cope and waste of time even IF it were true

Lmfao. This.

Religion is the mother of all copes. I still don't understand how these losers juggle

"looks money status are all that matters"

And

"God doesn't care about looks money or status, and Gods approval is what matters"

They're blatantly contradictory. By default if you're religious looks shouldn't matter to you, neither should money, neither should status, because God doesnt. But then why the fuck are you here? Oh because you don't want to be a virgin loser? You want earthly pleasures? I wish I could just kill all religious tards. I have absolutely no patience or sympathy for them.

 

[anemo]

What happened to trying to argue, I vibe you a source and you don't even try to read it ? Lmao moron

Did you not see the 6 paragraphs I sent you? I sent that after the fact

 

[Hess]

"Do merely hours of research on metaphysics" JFL, the cosmological arguments as we know it are not fullproof and pretending there is a wide spread acceptance of them or that they instantly disprove an atheistic world is retarded

 

[Hess]

Lmfao. This.

Religion is the mother of all copes. I still don't understand how these losers juggle

"looks money status are all that matters"

And

"God doesn't care about looks money or status, and Gods approval is what matters"

They're blatantly contradictory. By default if you're religious looks shouldn't matter to you, neither should money, neither should status, because God doesnt. But then why the fuck are you here? Oh because you don't want to be a virgin loser? You want earthly pleasures? I wish I could just kill all religious tards. I have absolutely no patience or sympathy for them.

God explicitly tells people to be fruitful and multiply, pretending as if you are christian they now have to somehow divorce themselves from all earthly matters is retarded (especially when money is used for survival/supporting families, charities and can be used to further religious causes), im not a christian but this is such a bad faith argument

 

[Hess]

how can you be religious and blackpilled at the same time JFL

religion is a cope and waste of time even IF it were true

if religion were true why would it be a waste of time when it is a matter of eternal damnation or not, im an atheist/agnostic myself but you people don't take the time to think out your actual refutations or arguments logically

 

[skool]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

Nigga is 14 watching nick futa and jesus edits thinking he's allat

Also I believe there's some powerful creature above us, just doesn't care about us

 

[Hess]

agnostic atheism is the most honest position

we don’t have any verifiable conclusive evidence of any deity let alone a semetic abrahamic one

it is far more rational to be skeptical and withhold belief in an unproven claim than to believe with no evidence

100 percent, its rly funny how both the devout atheists and devout theists on here are always using such retarded strawman arguments or not operating in any good faith whatsoever, actual rational skepticism is a lost art it seems

 

[anemo]

Nigga is 14 watching nick futa and jesus edits thinking he's allat

Also I believe there's some powerful creature above us, just doesn't care about us

Dnr until you low iq niggas can form an argument

 

[skool]

Dnr until you low iq niggas can form an argument

u are a low iq nigger

 

[Slavurik]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

Bcs I am not a vegetable that believes in this shit. Until there is no fucking iron proofs and evidence of “god’s” existence I would shit on it and burn the bible

 

[skool]

okay jst tell me then, why some kids are born with fatal diseases who die even before opening their eyes? why does god think of this

 

[JewishNationalist]

Bcs I am not a vegetable that believes in this shit. Until there is no fucking iron proofs and evidence of “god’s” existence I would shit on it and burn the bible

even if there's a god
it doesn't mean you should be a submissive cuck to him lol
praying is very low t even if god actually exists

 

[Slavurik]

even if there's a god
it doesn't mean you should be a submissive cuck to him lol
praying is very low t even if god actually exists

Fr it is like being a slave of ur father bcs he created u

 

[JewishNationalist]

Fr it is like being a slave of ur father bcs he created u

a real man would not even fear hell
its the opposite, he would aim to go to hell rather than to paradise, since in hell there's suffering, and suffering makes you much stronger. and when you get too strong, you will beat god to shit and become a god yourself.

 

[Mecha-Man]

God explicitly tells people to be fruitful and multiply, pretending as if you are christian they now have to somehow divorce themselves from all earthly matters is retarded (especially when money is used for survival/supporting families, charities and can be used to further religious causes), im not a christian but this is such a bad faith argument

Lol

Be fruitful and multiply doesn't mean looksmax and be a shallow psycho. You can go ahead and cherry pick Bible verses and interpret them in a way that somehow supports Looksmaxxing. But you and I both know that the Bible is littered with contradictions, and overwhelmingly it encourages being philanthropic and forgoing earthly pleasures, including the pursuit of sex (especially outside marriage) and the pursuit of wealth. It specifically encourages having just enough for sustenance. The exact opposite of money Maxxing.

I don't really feel like going into a cherry picking war with you but if I was I'd find 10 "give up everything, and become a virgin monk" verses for every "have as much sex and wealth as possible" verse you find, and my interpretations would not be reaching as much as you would be.

The camel and the eye of a needle one
The he who loves the earth cannot love God one
The one where Jesus instructed his disciples to abandon all their belongings .

You sure you aren't Christian? Because that was a dumb thing to say.

 

[AbnormalAfrican]

Again my age is completely irrelevant in the premise of this convo dont know why you keep coping with it. and yes, i said that a few hours of actually studying Christianity and metaphysics/Thomism can give someone enough to form a rational conclusion that God exists. i

Are you completely dim witted ? Do I actually have to explain the most basic English sentence ? Seem like I have too . How does one struggle with the english language this much

Atheism as a result is just ignorance.

you're own words here, surely you know a thing about humility ? make a big claim such as that you must be well versed in, oh wait

You're fourteen, either that or you've turned 14 a few months ago. Besides that you act like one aswell , you can't even space out your paragraphs. Really?

I brought up your age because of your baseless claim that atheism is based upon ignorance. As it's quiet impossible for someone to be or to act like 14 one and call others ignorant on a subject

Did you completely skip over all of THIS, are you once again that deprived of proper education that you're unable to properly read. I've literally explained it all here for the blind.

o dont know why you keep coping with it

laughable

i said that a few hours of actually studying Christianity and metaphysics/Thomism can give someone enough to form a rational conclusion that God exists.

You keep making it worse for yourself the more you speak. A few hours are you fucking serious ? A few hours and you came up with the conclusion that Atheism is ignorant ? I think its time you follow your own values and get back to ''researching'' because you've clearly engaged with other whom you've already aligned with prior, your research ?

can give someone enough to form a rational conclusion that God exists.

RATIONAL ???? give it up. You cant form a rational argument after a few hours of anything. Especially when the author like yourself has not even touched the counter arguments.

Lets run an experiment

four people decide to see if evolution is in fact correct, lets see our volenteers

Person 1 : is going to read/skim over four hours of content on whatever platform they prefer
Person 2 : has already came to the conclusion that creationism is correct and is unwilling to put that aside for the experiment

Person 3: Is going to spend atleast a month researching the topic
Person 4: will be doing the same

now lets try and see our play results ?

Person 1 - Due to algorithmic bias, person one couldn't have formed a clear rational opinion on either side. as content would sway thus making it difficult to prove or disprove anything
Person 2 - Due to persons twos previous bias everything they've found has creationist undertones and a massive bias, due to the research they're able to repeat arguments from their research made by their author , this gives the appearance of a deep understanding but in reality it is quite shallow
Person 3- they've researched it fairly fine. they have a deep or atleast the deepest understanding possible when one spends a month. they're able to counter the spat out arguments unless its something they haven't heard before
Person 4- Same as above

All in all P3 and P4 all did better in my eyes atleast and have a superior understanding. Hopefully you can see that its impossible to come to any rational conclusion in less than a few hours of ''research'' like you.

i don't see the contradiction you're trying to point out.

actually read what im saying and you will understand i can dumb it down for you unless i plan to ruin my point

Now, if you think these atheist authors/books refute the arguments such as the five ways, give me their actual objections. You keep saying i havent given you a metaphysical argument which i very clearly have but you mustve not understood,

Dumb fool, do i really need to quote both of our posts again

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

this is how you started the argument, the proof of god is on you ! There is no ''metaphysical argument'' im trying prove, im critiquing you, your post and the claim you've made. I dont understand how someone can be this idiotic.

You're fourteen years old. You have no right to call others ignorance. I've done research on atheism and Christianity and am perfectly able to argue for atheism, evolution, etc etc.

Does the Curious Christ worshiper actually follow his own word ? of course not ! i've doubt you've even read most atheism texts (God delusion. God is not Great etc) I'd even be happy to hear you've skimmed or read half of these texts but you haven't .

This is an assumption but the vast texts on Christianity on google are written by Christians trying to convert others, even in my research (i do this as a hobby not as a job) I've struggled to find secular texts so its telling that you feel THIS strongly on the belief in your Omnicidal God when you're reading other Christians work.

and yes im sure our google algorithms are the same

This is a direct response to your starter post. Please show me where in your starter post you gave this breathtaking metaphysical argument, can you do that Saint Anemo ?

the point is that if you actually study the arguments instead of treating God as a primitive explanation for things we don't understand, you encounter philosophical arguments for God's existence that have nothing to do with christian sources "saying so"

You're a retard. Everyone knows that these arguments exists the problem is no one here cares as im sure you know well by now your own starter post said

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

Once again if you wanted this to be worth while you wouldnt have started it with a closed mind. btw its on you to form the argument and its on you to prove the miracles. Im not sure how you manage to be this stupid .

you said objects and animals can have explanations for why they exist okay? then what ultimately explains the existence of contingent things? And i'm not asking what caused this particular object i'm asking why there is a reality composed of things that don't have the reason for their existence within themselves. if A depends on B, and B depends on C, you've explained A through B and B through C. but if everything you're appealing to is itself dependent, you haven't explained why the whole dependent order exists in the first place. and before you say “well maybe the universe just exists” this is not an explanation you've just declared the ultimate fact to be brute.

I've said so much haven't I, saint anemo ? Although i suppose i cant expect a NF fan to be too intelligent. Ontop of that properly space your paragraphs out properly so that it isnt ugly to read , ok saint anemo ?

Nether the less lets begin with this shitty argument

I wouldnt know what explains the existence of these things. Do you think we have a reason for existing ? Do you actually think a all powerful being created life than life on other planets because he loved us so much ? Dont be delusional. There doesnt need to be a reason for existence and thinking other whys is homo centric. Lets through my question out of the car for abit, Why do i need to explain the reason for the universe existence ?

Seriously why do I? The only reason why i'd need to do that if im trying to prove the existence of god. Ultimately your doing what religous people have always done inserting God into eras of the unknown and the unexplained. Enjoy your cope. We as humans simply cannot know everything and inserting god into the unexplained like you just did achieves nothing.

God is omnicidal as if putting a label on something proves the label. be more logical. you also need to establish that God's judgment in the Flood was objectively unjust. God killed people wont get you there. causing someone's death and unjustly murdering someone aren't synonymous. then you also say god made a mistake by creating adam and eve, which is in the same boat its an assertion. if God knew Adam and eve would sin before creating them, then your not showing a mistake at all, you've described a deliberate act performed with foreknowledge. to prove it was a mistake, you have to establish that creating free creatures who God knew would fall is incompatible with God's purpose or goodness. which you cant. and the original sin argument is just factually wrong about Catholicism. Catholicism doesn't teach that i personally committed Adam's sin and am being punished for an action i personally performed.
original sin is the inherited deprivation of original holiness and justice, a fallen condition of human nature. argue that doctrine is unjust all you want, but if you are going to at least argue against what Catholics actually believe . and even after all of this, you still are yet to give me an argument for atheism. i see you arguing about multiple different things besides the actual metaphysical question i gave you? quit coping withmy age etc and tell me why its false.

Do you read the thing i send you ? Hes omnicidal because he commits omnicide, i literally gave you examples of him committing it .What are you on ?????

Are that retarded? He all knowing and he knowingly created adam and eve knowing that they would commit the first sin, knowing that damn the rest of knowing he would commit omnicide and leave only noah and others to repopulate knowing that they would sin again. Does this not smell of the work of an omnicidal childish sadistic narcy god ?

Are you fucking retarded ? i know i've asked this question before but dude you have to take an IQ test and dispel the sound rumours that you are retarded, i am seriously. you have every one here calling you retarded and rightfully so and you havent done any self reflection. How can you come to the conclusion that you're the intelligent one and everyone else came to the wrong conclusion

Nether the less lets continue to debunk your nonsense so lets go a little deeper, FYI how can you worship someone that wants to send you to hell for a sin you didnt commit.

@arthurfish have i lost the plot, this guys an actual retard but lets continue

if God knew Adam and eve would sin before creating them, then your not showing a mistake at all, you've described a deliberate act performed with foreknowledge

The more you speak the worse you make God look. Yes thats horrible, how can one person be that sadistic ? Creating life knowing they would rebel and knowing that their creation would be flawed, knowing they would spread suffer on each other, knowing they would all go on to die and drown at the hands of a sadistic god ? He clearly enjoys killing and our suffering since lets it happen all time. Certain people are born to be depressed due to the nature of their genes, these genes would later make kill themselves. Note when i say born i mean develop certain people have higher chances of being depressed

ave to establish that creating free creatures who God knew would fall is incompatible with God's purpose or goodness.

torturing people in hell isnt enough proof, creating an shitty human with a shitty life and a shitty future. Everything i said isnt enough proof. What else do you need ?How can someone be all good and do this

which you cant. and the original sin argument is just factually wrong about Catholicism. Catholicism doesn't teach that i personally committed Adam's sin and am being punished for an action i personally performed

Sin being ? Besides that i dont give a fuck about Catholicism im talking abour Christianity in general, You're living in a hell like world all because of the fault of two people, do you seriously think you deserve punishment for something you did when people have done worse

riginal sin is the inherited deprivation of original holiness and justice, a fallen condition of human nature. argue that doctrine is unjust all you want, but if you are going to at least argue against what Catholics actually believe . and even after all of this, you still are yet to give me an argument for atheism. i see you arguing about multiple different things besides the actual metaphysical question i gave you? quit coping withmy age etc and tell me why its false.

Once again you are retarded and unable to read.

 

[CurrentYanti]

if religion were true why would it be a waste of time when it is a matter of eternal damnation or not, im an atheist/agnostic myself but you people don't take the time to think out your actual refutations or arguments logically

brutal ratio pill tells you more than anything

how is any god going to make u mog? religion litereally teaches the OPPOSITE of what blackpill is about, so how is any retard on .org religious?

expect gandy heaven that’s acceptable

 

[Hess]

Lol

Be fruitful and multiply doesn't mean looksmax and be a shallow psycho. You can go ahead and cherry pick Bible verses and interpret them in a way that somehow supports Looksmaxxing. But you and I both know that the Bible is littered with contradictions, and overwhelmingly it encourages being philanthropic and forgoing earthly pleasures, including the pursuit of sex (especially outside marriage) and the pursuit of wealth. It specifically encourages having just enough for sustenance. The exact opposite of money Maxxing.

Being explicitly told to create more families doesnt apply to looksmaxxing? how do you think you start one bro? do i need to tell you abt the birds and the bees? I never said it encouraged the pursuit of sex outside of marriage but how do you think you are suppose to get married in the first place?

I don't really feel like going into a cherry picking war with you but if I was I'd find 10 "give up everything, and become a virgin monk" verses for every "have as much sex and wealth as possible" verse you find, and my interpretations would not be reaching as much as you would be.

Crazy almost as if the bible encourages multiple ways of life for christians (monkhood, priesthood or being a family patriarch) you have to be gigaretarded to think that these are contradictory or that you have to only endorse one way of life

The camel and the eye of a needle one

This verse was explicitly done to disencourage people who believed that gained wealth was a sign of god's favour so jesus flipped the view and said wealth could be a trap that tempts you with sin, when asked how can man be saved jesus replied with god alone, the verse isnt saying being rich is "bad" this is a bad faith interpretation

The he who loves the earth cannot love God one

Also another shitty interpretation of scripture, when they speak of the world in this instance they are speaking abt spiritual moral vales, systems, attitudes and behaviours that leave god out, chasing sensory gratification over moral boundaries. pure greed and pure arrogrance, the verse is not a command to reject the material world, especially since God created the phsyical earth, called it good and expects humans to take care of it
1 Timothy 4:4-5:

"For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer."

Colossians 2:20-23 ESV​

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

The one where Jesus instructed his disciples to abandon all their belongings .

When jesus states in luke 14:33 (i assume this is the verse you are speaking of?) "Those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples," the greek word he uses for give up here (apotassomai) means to renounce owernship and say goodbye to something, when he tells his disciples to say goodbye and be ready to give up everything he is not telling them to literally abandon all of their belongings but that they must transfer the ownership deed so to say of their life to god, viewing their material belongings not as personal property but as resources owned by god and to be managed for his purposes (a feudal serf may live in and own a farm and directs its direction and what to do with it but the nobleman above him still owns the land, this is what jesus is asking of his disciples in that verse, not to literally give up all their material belongings and be a monk)

You sure you aren't Christian? Because that was a dumb thing to say.

You engage in the exact same slave like morality that christians do, you don't hate christianity for any logical reasons but do it out of some petty resentment online, and no, I am not christian yes, I am a proponent of nietzsche personally I just think your attempt at rejecting christianity was pathetic and stupid.

 

[Hess]

brutal ratio pill tells you more than anything

how is any god going to make u mog? religion litereally teaches the OPPOSITE of what blackpill is about, so how is any retard on .org religious?

expect gandy heaven that’s acceptable

Im not religious I am saying youre framework is retarded, why would you still not care about religion if you knew it was true, considering eternal damnation is your fate

 

[Hess]

Being explicitly told to create more families doesnt apply to looksmaxxing? how do you think you start one bro? do i need to tell you abt the birds and the bees? I never said it encouraged the pursuit of sex outside of marriage but how do you think you are suppose to get married in the first place?

Crazy almost as if the bible encourages multiple ways of life for christians (monkhood, priesthood or being a family patriarch) you have to be gigaretarded to think that these are contradictory or that you have to only endorse one way of life

This verse was explicitly done to disencourage people who believed that gained wealth was a sign of god's favour so jesus flipped the view and said wealth could be a trap that tempts you with sin, when asked how can man be saved jesus replied with god alone, the verse isnt saying being rich is "bad" this is a bad faith interpretation

Also another shitty interpretation of scripture, when they speak of the world in this instance they are speaking abt spiritual moral vales, systems, attitudes and behaviours that leave god out, chasing sensory gratification over moral boundaries. pure greed and pure arrogrance, the verse is not a command to reject the material world, especially since God created the phsyical earth, called it good and expects humans to take care of it
1 Timothy 4:4-5:

Colossians 2:20-23 ESV​

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.


When jesus states in luke 14:33 (i assume this is the verse you are speaking of?) "Those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples," the greek word he uses for give up here (apotassomai) means to renounce owernship and say goodbye to something, when he tells his disciples to say goodbye and be ready to give up everything he is not telling them to literally abandon all of their belongings but that they must transfer the ownership deed so to say of their life to god, viewing their material belongings not as personal property but as resources owned by god and to be managed for his purposes (a feudal serf may live in and own a farm and directs its direction and what to do with it but the nobleman above him still owns the land, this is what jesus is asking of his disciples in that verse, not to literally give up all their material belongings and be a monk)

You engage in the exact same slave like morality that christians do, you don't hate christianity for any logical reasons but do it out of some petty resentment online, and no, I am not christian yes, I am a proponent of nietzsche personally I just think your attempt at rejecting christianity was pathetic and stupid.

And just to explicitly clarify before you try to use this as an argument against me, I am not arguing that slaying or slay culture or whatever is christian, but that looksmaxxing is essential if you want to actually do well in long term datingl, how do you expect to get married if no women is attracted to you? @Mecha-Man

 

[Quetila]

Bcs I am not a vegetable that believes in this shit. Until there is no fucking iron proofs and evidence of “god’s” existence I would shit on it and burn the bible

I mean you’re jewish, you would burn the bible and shit on it either way

 

[Slavurik]

I mean you’re jewish, you would burn the bible and shit on it either way

I burnt Jewish religious books too btw

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Atheism as a result is just ignorance. Do merely hours of research on metaphysics etc and you will be able to form a logical argument that no one can debate against that God exists. Not only that the miracles etc. makes no sense to me.

I don’t even have anything to say because everything u said is just wrong and takes next to no evidence to prove that

Normally I try my best to ignore idiots like u but I just wanted to let u know ur completely fucking retarded

Ur only 15 so maybe in a few years you’ll realise ur mistakes but who knows

 

[Quetila]

I burnt Jewish religious books too btw

It’s not forbidden and jews can lie to goyim why would I believe that

 

[kronos_008]

Why tf you are even debating about religion in a forum made for looks bro just go to Instagram or something where people talk about it lol

 

[Slavurik]

It’s not forbidden and jews can lie to goyim why would I believe that

Literally bcs I am an atheist and I don't believe in allat bullshit.

I don't believe in anything - not in Judaism, not in Christianity and etc, idc. Tbh honest I hate muslims and wish them all death, but outside of that genuinely idgaf. And yeah, I indeed burnt jewish religious books. I won't lie to goyim bcs I just don't believe in allat shit, all those religions created by men are just some shit written on a piece of paper to get money from retards that believe in it and influence them.

 

[Slavurik]

It’s not forbidden and jews can lie to goyim why would I believe that

You're a retard if u fr believe that jews have some codex abt non jews. Nigga most of my family (80%) are "goys" so stfu, literally best people I know

 

[Quetila]

You're a retard if u fr believe that jews have some codex abt non jews. Nigga most of my family (80%) are "goys" so stfu, literally best people I know

They do have a codex about non jews but u aren’t actually jewish according to jewish law I forgot about this

 

[Slavurik]

They do have a codex about non jews but u aren’t actually jewish according to jewish law I forgot about this

My mother is Jewish, so yeah I am jewish with an Israeli passport, ur retard asf

Lived here almost all my life, literally didn't ever hear abt a "codex" or any shit like that ur coping hard rn

 

[Quetila]

My mother is Jewish, so yeah I am jewish with an Israeli passport, ur retard asf

Lived here almost all my life, literally didn't ever hear abt a "codex" or any shit like that ur coping hard rn

Why do u want me to believe it so bad? And she probably isn’t actually jewish we had a convo about ur genes

 

[Slavurik]

Why do u want me to believe it so bad? And she probably isn’t actually jewish we had a convo about ur genes

I am literally jewish by the "Alakha" or whatever its called, I've got an Israeli passport bcs of it, if I wasn't Jewish then I would not get a citizenship here yk. If we discussed my genes with u, then I am sure I said that my great grandma was jewish - she was the mom of my maternal grandma, what basically makes my mom and me jewish. That's how it works nigga.

Yeah, outside of that all my relatives are Europeans, so I am not a typical Jew, but literally no one here gives a fuck.

Idc if u believe it or not, ur just a retard that probably rots in his room allday and read some bs abt jews, never even meeting one and then says some delusional imbecile shit like he is a fucking specialist or smth, it just looks ridiculous to me, since I am literally living in Israel among Jews. Like stay with ur opinion if u want, I'm aruging with u bcs u say false shit abt my ethnicity without even knowing wtf u are talking abt.

 

[Quetila]

I am literally jewish by the "Alakha" or whatever its called, I've got an Israeli passport bcs of it, if I wasn't Jewish then I would not get a citizenship here yk. If we discussed my genes with u, then I am sure I said that my great grandma was jewish - she was the mom of my maternal grandma, what basically makes my mom and me jewish. That's how it works nigga.

Yeah, outside of that all my relatives are Europeans, so I am not a typical Jew, but literally no one here gives a fuck.

Idc if u believe it or not, ur just a retard that probably rots in his room allday and read some bs abt jews, never even meeting one and then says some delusional imbecile shit like he is a fucking specialist or smth, it just looks ridiculous to me, since I am literally living in Israel among Jews. Like stay with ur opinion if u want, I'm aruging with u bcs u say false shit abt my ethnicity without even knowing wtf u are talking abt.

Ur mad as fuck retard

I still believe in the codex ur family might just be secular

 

[_Jason_]

why would this loving God create such creatures like niggers...

 

[Slavurik]

Whatever u want to believe idiot

Ur mad as fuck retard

I still believe in the codex ur family might just be secular

 

[Quetila]

Whatever u want to believe idiot

why are u so aggressive does it affect u so much that certain goyim believe this?

 

[hopelessmanlet32]

no one can debate against that God exists.

 

[Slavurik]

why are u so aggressive does it affect u so much that certain goyim believe this?

It is just annoying that there are people who seriously believe in this bs

 

[Quetila]

It is just annoying that there are people who seriously believe in this bs

Ok I apologise

 

[Slavurik]

Ok I apologise

All good sorry too if I insulted u