How do guys here actually get to talk to girls?

true legit my mental wellbeing is total trash cuz of parental child abuse in my youth

very hard issue to tackle.
i hope you get the help you deserve bhai :):)

good luck
 
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I don't know man, I have so many conflicting and contradicting experiences, I sometimes get looks from foids, I can make foids laugh very easily, but ultimately, when things need to escalate to something sexual, I have a 100% failure rate...

And I've seen men lesser than me in everything, who managed to get laid, I have the worst luck with foids ever.

It's just cursepill, I am seriously starting to believe that there is some external curse at play here...
I feel similar, but I believe it's caused by my childhood traumas at this point where I don't desire/behave in certain ways that would get me success in certain situations.

Like the way you escalate and vibe with a girl, for me it seems off, forced, unnatural, etc. girls pick up on it and reject me.
 
i dont because iam not chad yet
 
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I feel similar, but I believe it's caused by my childhood traumas at this point where I don't desire/behave in certain ways that would get me success in certain situations.

Like the way you escalate and vibe with a girl, for me it seems off, forced, unnatural, etc. girls pick up on it and reject me.
This is my problem too. I carry around a lot of bitterness, misanthropy, angst, cynicism, disdain, etc. Some part of me does like people and their company, but it's buried under a bunch of other shit. Mostly I don't like interacting with people. It's a chore. And I despise faking anything.

This is anathema to 99.99% of women, especially young women.
 
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This is my problem too. I carry around a lot of bitterness, misanthropy, angst, cynicism, disdain, etc. Some part of me does like people and their company, but it's buried under a bunch of other shit. Mostly I don't like interacting with people. It's a chore. And I despise faking anything.

This is anathema to 99.99% of women, especially young women.
drugs solve all these issues for me yet I am still truecel despite going to drug-fuelled raves all the time so idk if any of it even matters in the end.
 
I don't know man, I have so many conflicting and contradicting experiences, I sometimes get looks from foids, I can make foids laugh very easily, but ultimately, when things need to escalate to something sexual, I have a 100% failure rate...

And I've seen men lesser than me in everything, who managed to get laid, I have the worst luck with foids ever.

It's just cursepill, I am seriously starting to believe that there is some external curse at play here...
How ugly are though?
Ltn or a truecel?
 
Like how do you even get to do so?

When I tried, I would get looked with the 'ewww' face and instantly rejected. Women would stay away as far they could from me, refuse to play with me, refuse to let me play with them, refuse to group up with me, and so on.

u must be some sort of gigachad for women to treat you better than this

brutal mog :feelswhy::feelswhy:
I got approached yesterday by a recent highschool graduate (jb) who approached me on the street and clearly wanted me.
I wasn't interested and wanted to exit the conversation, but she still kept asking me questions to keep me engaged and wanted to hug me for a goodbye.
This shit still happens to me at 27. Street approaches are still insansely rare.
I am not a gigachad by any means. I would say above average.
 
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Like how do you even get to do so?

When I tried, I would get looked with the 'ewww' face and instantly rejected. Women would stay away as far they could from me, refuse to play with me, refuse to let me play with them, refuse to group up with me, and so on.

u must be some sort of gigachad for women to treat you better than this

brutal mog :feelswhy::feelswhy:
Literally just the same way u talk to men apart from u go easier on banter (because they get upset/offended way easier usually). Most girls are incredibly easy to talk to its just guys who are nevous get stuck in their own head and ruin it. U don't need pick up lines or any of tht bs just talk to them like they are a person.

Ur asking this question implies ur inexperienced talking to them. I would literally get a customer service job or a job in a majory woman work place for 6 months and I guarentee u will have no problem after. Like I said u just have to relax and talk to them like u would any1 else just be a bit less rough then if ur talking to another man.
 
Literally just the same way u talk to men apart from u go easier on banter (because they get upset/offended way easier usually). Most girls are incredibly easy to talk to its just guys who are nevous get stuck in their own head and ruin it. U don't need pick up lines or any of tht bs just talk to them like they are a person.

Ur asking this question implies ur inexperienced talking to them. I would literally get a customer service job or a job in a majory woman work place for 6 months and I guarentee u will have no problem after. Like I said u just have to relax and talk to them like u would any1 else just be a bit less rough then if ur talking to another man.
not everyone is chad like you

easy to talk to women lol, you have no clue what thats like when you are ugly asf
 
not everyone is chad like you

easy to talk to women lol, you have no clue what thats like when you are ugly asf
Unless ur subhuman (which I rly doubt u are) how are u approaching these women. Are u saying hello in a familiar environment or just cold approaching girls on the street. Trust me ur beating urself up so bad I guarentee ur vide when u talk to them isnt good. Maybe u need to build ur confidence in another area of ur life first. Tell me ur height, weight, ethnicity, age and country.
 
What are flaws
And slay count?
Balding
5'8
Ltn face
Mentally ill
Abused dog

1 short relationship in HS without sex
1 slay(escort) - so it doesn't count
Countless rejections
So in actuality 0 slays
 
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Unless ur subhuman (which I rly doubt u are) how are u approaching these women. Are u saying hello in a familiar environment or just cold approaching girls on the street. Trust me ur beating urself up so bad I guarentee ur vide when u talk to them isnt good. Maybe u need to build ur confidence in another area of ur life first. Tell me ur height, weight, ethnicity, age and country.
Cold approach.

im a social confident mogger with extreme charisma, just ugly face. netherlands
 
Like how do you even get to do so?

When I tried, I would get looked with the 'ewww' face and instantly rejected. Women would stay away as far they could from me, refuse to play with me, refuse to let me play with them, refuse to group up with me, and so on.

u must be some sort of gigachad for women to treat you better than this

brutal mog :feelswhy::feelswhy:
Idk they come to me
 
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Balding
5'8
Ltn face
Mentally ill
Abused dog

1 short relationship in HS without sex
1 slay(escort) - so it doesn't count
Countless rejections
So in actuality 0 slays
Any hope incel?
Will you surgery max?
Im going down that route since i get rejected by fatties in their 40s and there’s nothing else but surgery that could save me
 
Ugly or non NT people should never talk to foids
 
Cold approach.

im a social confident mogger with extreme charisma, just ugly face. netherlands
cmon most girls dont like cold approach lol. U need to meet girls through hobbys etc. Just try different stuff and put urself out there. I joined a new gym and met 4 girls I swapped numbers with (I dont use social media now which makes it harder). I train with one of them. If ur genuinely below average u need to fall in a nicha so that could be the fitness industrry nice (since we talked about the gym). Go on a test cycle and gain some mass and start talking to girls in the gym after u have seen each other a bunch of times their. U see each other more and more and then star doing exercises together and/or ask them if they would like to hang out sometime outside of the gym.

U just need to focus on making girls who are friends at first then the rest comes easy.
 
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Any hope incel?
Will you surgery max?
Im going down that route since i get rejected by fatties in their 40s and there’s nothing else but surgery that could save me
Yeah, surgery most likely.

Shotgun implants.
 
cmon most girls dont like cold approach lol. U need to meet girls through hobbys etc. Just try different stuff and put urself out there. I joined a new gym and met 4 girls I swapped numbers with (I dont use social media now which makes it harder). I train with one of them. If ur genuinely below average u need to fall in a nicha so that could be the fitness industrry nice (since we talked about the gym). Go on a test cycle and gain some mass and start talking to girls in the gym after u have seen each other a bunch of times their. U see each other more and more and then star doing exercises together and/or ask them if they would like to hang out sometime outside of the gym.

U just need to focus on making girls who are friends at first then the rest comes easy.
your story makes no sense. you say you go to the gym, but then if you dont cold approach girls at the gym, how are you ever talking to them?

you yourself say you cold approach them and cuz ur goodlooking, they respond positively.
 
cmon most girls dont like cold approach lol. U need to meet girls through hobbys etc. Just try different stuff and put urself out there. I joined a new gym and met 4 girls I swapped numbers with (I dont use social media now which makes it harder). I train with one of them. If ur genuinely below average u need to fall in a nicha so that could be the fitness industrry nice (since we talked about the gym). Go on a test cycle and gain some mass and start talking to girls in the gym after u have seen each other a bunch of times their. U see each other more and more and then star doing exercises together and/or ask them if they would like to hang out sometime outside of the gym.

U just need to focus on making girls who are friends at first then the rest comes easy.
u tell me not to cold approach and then u tell me u cold approach girls at the gym

just fucking lol man.
 
your story makes no sense. you say you go to the gym, but then if you dont cold approach girls at the gym, how are you ever talking to them?

you yourself say you cold approach them and cuz ur goodlooking, they respond positively.
But I approach girls ive seen and say hello and share machines regularly to at the gym its different to walking up to a random girl on the street and cold approaching. U clearly misuderstood. IDK if u have ever gone to a gym for a long period of time but you see familiar faces agaian and again then u say hello to each other. Then u might ask one another for help on the machine. I have made abunch of friends just starting like this at the gym.
 
But I approach girls ive seen and say hello and share machines regularly to at the gym its different to walking up to a random girl on the street and cold approaching.
nah its the same thing when you are an ugly subhuman

chad can approach anywhere, incel can approach nowhere
 
They immediately eewwww you and don’t even respond?
Brutal
That doesn’t even happen to me
At least they actually say something to him. They just get appalled when I show up, and avoid me like a leper.
 
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