How do I not come off like a retard during a consult with a surgeon? Ramieri

[vnw[oggwg]

I have a consult with Ramieri in a few months and I'm stressed im gonna come off like an retard from here and he'll try to persuade me not to get surgery or something or say no because he doesn't like spergs from this site.

What do you usually start with? Does he look at your photos or CT scan and then squint at the webcam to see how subhuman you are? Does he ask you what changes you want? Should I send him morphs? People have got bimax with Pags and talked about how he was chill and discussed lots in the consult and Pags just told me to get braces for decomp and said bye without talking about any surgery. Who has actually talked to Rams and what advise do you suggest

 

[justjutting]

Just do what this guy did

 

[vnw[oggwg]

Just do what this guy did

Fuck I better learn how to understand my CT scan and be able to talk to Ramieri about the exact measurements I need then. Is there a guide on how to DIY cephalometric analysis on here?

 

[justjutting]

U can try webceph app but its not 100% reliable. My ortho said it makes mistakes mapping reference points. U can also try running ur ceph/cbct through various AIs just so u can get a general picture

 

[lurking truecel]

I mean without decomped teeth and ct scan no one will talk about plans with you. They dont even see you as a potential candidate then, more then that they might contact your ortho for the decomp fast as hell

 

[vnw[oggwg]

I mean without decomped teeth and ct scan no one will talk about plans with you. They dont even see you as a potential candidate then, more then that they might contact your ortho for the decomp fast as hell

like let's say for example with random numbers lets say I need to move my maxilla 10mm forward with 3 degrees CCW rotation and mandible 24mm forward and 5mm genioplasty

How much is braces going to even change that? He can still talk about which surgical movements right?

I'm still fucked trying to find an orthodontist in Australia who is prepard to even see me. I've called random places and asked if they work with overseas surgeons and ALL OF THEM say no. Worst case scenario I have to fly to fucking Italy to go get braces with whoever orthodontist Ramieri likes working with

 

[Mr. Ali]

Is Ramieri against this forum? Cause my ortho is friends with him and they worked together in the past. Hence, I thought he could even get me a discount.

 

[zemult]

Just do what this guy did

Lmfao what an actual autist. Aside from that it's like he actually wants to become uncanny lol

 

[Animepilled]

like let's say for example with random numbers lets say I need to move my maxilla 10mm forward with 3 degrees CCW rotation and mandible 24mm forward and 5mm genioplasty
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How much is braces going to even change that? He can still talk about which surgical movements right?

I'm still fucked trying to find an orthodontist in Australia who is prepard to even see me. I've called random places and asked if they work with overseas surgeons and ALL OF THEM say no. Worst case scenario I have to fly to fucking Italy to go get braces with whoever orthodontist Ramieri likes working with

i doubt you need it honestly. Do you have breathing problems?

 

[murad.89]

 

[jackinthebox]

I mean without decomped teeth and ct scan no one will talk about plans with you. They dont even see you as a potential candidate then, more then that they might contact your ortho for the decomp fast as hell

Do u need to decomp teeth if your bite is aligned?

 

[Acquiescence]

If you’re a random young 20-something he will almost immediately know what’s up

Just accept it’s gonna be cringe and awkward. You are certainly not the first and won’t be the last so it’s okay

Keep it as NT as possible, no lingo, no hyper specific autistic analysis

You send in your scans before the consult then he’ll load it up and rotate it around etc during. Can click and drag it at points to manipulate it to show rough example movements and soft tissue changes

Say your general aesthetic goals then he’ll tell you what he thinks is adequate for your case

He’s open to somewhat specific requests but again only if he thinks it’s beneficial and that you are a reasonable human and won’t rage or sperg out

Good luck

 

[tyler1234]

Say to him u want maximum psl and he will know what u mean

 

[Lookologist003]

Is Ramieri against this forum?

If you’re a random young 20-something he will almost immediately know what’s up

I wonder if the few plastic surgeons we talk about know what's causing this influx. Eppley knows jfl. Eppley has known since Lookism days. They must be like, wow, business has been booming since 2023.

 

[Acquiescence]

I wonder if the few plastic surgeons we talk about know what's causing this influx. Eppley knows jfl. Eppley has known since Lookism days. They must be like, wow, business has been booming since 2023.

They have to there’s just no way they don’t imo

When I first consulted Ram first words outta his mouth after exchanging pleasantries was “So… what brings you to me?” and lowk had a slight shit eating grin

Idk perhaps I’m projecting some paranoia into the memory but I refuse to watch the consult recording again I would die of cringe I only refer to the ai notes now for reference

 

[Prøphet]

They have to there’s just no way they don’t imo

When I first consulted Ram first words outta his mouth after exchanging pleasantries was “So… what brings you to me?” and lowk had a slight shit eating grin

Idk perhaps I’m projecting some paranoia into the memory but I refuse to watch the consult recording again I would die of cringe I only refer to the ai notes now for reference

He talked about turning a guy into a chad in his ig comments he definitely knows

 

[Prøphet]

Just do what this guy did

Holy fuck difficult watch

 

[Kyriae]

Just do what this guy did

Wasnt cringe le Docteur played along and was following his ideas actively didnt dismiss his fantasies

 

[Mr. Ali]

I wonder if the few plastic surgeons we talk about know what's causing this influx. Eppley knows jfl. Eppley has known since Lookism days. They must be like, wow, business has been booming since 2023.

I will probably be contacting Ramieri through my orthodontist, with whom he already has 2 cases done for mainly functional issues. Btw, I have severe asymmetry: jaw deviation to the right, maxillary cant (left side is lower than the right), plus orbital dystopia (can't be fixed by trimax, will, get orbital floor implant for this).
Do you think if I do it through my ortho, he would charge less?

 

[Mr. Ali]

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Lol, I thought I'm the only Azerbaijani on this forum

 

[Mr. Ali]

They have to there’s just no way they don’t imo

When I first consulted Ram first words outta his mouth after exchanging pleasantries was “So… what brings you to me?” and lowk had a slight shit eating grin

Idk perhaps I’m projecting some paranoia into the memory but I refuse to watch the consult recording again I would die of cringe I only refer to the ai notes now for reference

Did you end up getting surgery with him?

 

[Acquiescence]

Did you end up getting surgery with him?

Next year

 

[Mr. Ali]

Next year

Still in decomp phase?

 

[koops]

I expect at this point whenever Ram sees his patient is male and between the ages of 20-29 he just knows the autism is coming. Don't worry about it

 

[Acquiescence]

Still in decomp phase?

No mental illness poverty and general incompetence

 

[vnw[oggwg]

Is Ramieri against this forum? Cause my ortho is friends with him and they worked together in the past. Hence, I thought he could even get me a discount.

Can you DM me with his ortho. If Ramieri agrees to operate on me and I can't find an orthodontist in australia for decomp maybe I can email your guy to ask if he will work with some rando patient from Australia.

i doubt you need it honestly. Do you have breathing problems?

No sleep apnea I'm just subhuman levels of recessed. My pfp is literally a trace of my profile

Say your general aesthetic goals then he’ll tell you what he thinks is adequate for your case

He’s open to somewhat specific requests but again only if he thinks it’s beneficial and that you are a reasonable human and won’t rage or sperg out

Good luck

kek so should I send him morphs then? what about a side by side of my ceph and then like do a trimax on myself in photoshop to show hhim how much advancement I think I need for the lefort I BSSO and genio?

 

[Acquiescence]

Can you DM me with his ortho. If Ramieri agrees to operate on me and I can't find an orthodontist in australia for decomp maybe I can email your guy to ask if he will work with some rando patient from Australia.


No sleep apnea I'm just subhuman levels of recessed. My pfp is literally a trace of my profile

kek so should I send him morphs then? what about a side by side of my ceph and then like do a trimax on myself in photoshop to show hhim how much advancement I think I need for the lefort I BSSO and genio?

No do not send morphs

Just be able to articulate what aesthetically you want to gain out of a trimax

 

[geenk worg]

Just make sure you don't send him morphs

 

[monk321]

Say to him u want maximum psl and he will know what u mean

That's how he will send you to a psychiatrist idiot

 

[Animepilled]

Just make sure you don't send him morphs

everyone talks about not sending morphs but the first thing a surgeon himself sent me in response to my email was a morph lmao

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

Don't act like a retard, just tell him calmly that you need to reach Jordan Barret's PSL or maximum 0.5 points away from it or your friends from .org will tell you to ropemaxx, don't forget to mention pepe the frog

 

[BlackOctopus]

I wonder if the few plastic surgeons we talk about know what's causing this influx. Eppley knows jfl. Eppley has known since Lookism days. They must be like, wow, business has been booming since 2023.

Last year in summer, BSSO/Genioplasty in Croatia was €4k, around New Year 4.5k and last time I visited 4.9k

 

[justjutting]

Last year in summer, BSSO/Genioplasty in Croatia was €4k, around New Year 4.5k and last time I visited 4.9k

Which dr? Yoiti?

 

[geenk worg]

everyone talks about not sending morphs but the first thing a surgeon himself sent me in response to my email was a morph lmao

Who was this? Eppley?

 

[BlackOctopus]

Which dr? Yoiti?

Bagatin. There is a dude on forum who did DJS with him.

 

[monk321]

everyone talks about not sending morphs but the first thing a surgeon himself sent me in response to my email was a morph lmao

Never had problem sending them morph if he gets nervous means he's scared and can't guarantee result you want

 

[Animepilled]

Who was this? Eppley?

no. One from Moscow

 

[Mr. Ali]

no. One from Moscow

Can you DM me his name? I live close to Russia and been considering getting trimax there

 

[zemult]

Holy fuck difficult watch

 

[Kyriae]

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Isnt that a common sentiment with young guys growing up and seeing changes in their body and face

 

[Acquiescence]

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Bro’s gonna end up like cosmicmaxxer chasing an uncanny look to cover up an insecurity (rational or not) instead of just going for a reasonable conventional improvement

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

Bro’s gonna end up like cosmicmaxxer chasing an uncanny look to cover up an insecurity (rational or not) instead of just going for a reasonable conventional improvement

Based af from him. Also his surgery got cancelled 2 days ago sadly

 

[Acquiescence]

Based af from him. Also his surgery got cancelled 2 days ago sadly

How is it based

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

How is it based

because its sinnister

 

[Acquiescence]

because its sinnister

Ok buddy

 

[Vir]

I have a consult with Ramieri in a few months and I'm stressed im gonna come off like an retard from here and he'll try to persuade me not to get surgery or something or say no because he doesn't like spergs from this site.

What do you usually start with? Does he look at your photos or CT scan and then squint at the webcam to see how subhuman you are? Does he ask you what changes you want? Should I send him morphs? People have got bimax with Pags and talked about how he was chill and discussed lots in the consult and Pags just told me to get braces for decomp and said bye without talking about any surgery. Who has actually talked to Rams and what advise do you suggest

Just don't mention it unless it's needed, say what you want normally and do NOT talk about specific numbers (eg do not say I want 10mm of bsso advancement or i want my g - sn - pg to be 170°) he definitely does not like that, and will disregard you if you go too far. Just go in with a CT scan and some photos of yourself, tell him what you want and ask him to what degree he can get it done. He actually doesn't have a problem with looksmaxing, this site, or people coming from here per se, you can talk to him freely about bp if you want to waste your time doing that, he's as blackpilled as a surgeon in his position can be, and he's chill with it as long as you're not obsessed with it.

Source - I had trimax with him and talked to him a bit about the blackpill. It's obviously not news to him, and we even joke about it now, whenever I see him for post op follow ups. He's even done a couple of reels/stories about it recently

 

[gravlek]

Just don't mention it unless it's needed, say what you want normally and do NOT talk about specific numbers (eg do not say I want 10mm of bsso advancement or i want my g - sn - pg to be 170°) he definitely does not like that, and will disregard you if you go too far. Just go in with a CT scan and some photos of yourself, tell him what you want and ask him to what degree he can get it done. He actually doesn't have a problem with looksmaxing, this site, or people coming from here per se, you can talk to him freely about bp if you want to waste your time doing that, he's as blackpilled as a surgeon in his position can be, and he's chill with it as long as you're not obsessed with it.

Source - I had trimax with him and talked to him a bit about the blackpill. It's obviously not news to him, and we even joke about it now, whenever I see him for post op follow ups. He's even done a couple of reels/stories about it recently

Tell us more about your trimax, man! Always interesting to read about people on this site who do ACTUALLY get it and not rot.

 

[Vir]

Tell us more about your trimax, man! Always interesting to read about people on this site who do ACTUALLY get it and not rot.

I'll make a detailed post once I'm fully healed. I think Ramieri's team is gonna post the 3 weeks post op results in a few days on his insta anyway

 

[gravlek]

I'll make a detailed post once I'm fully healed. I think Ramieri's team is gonna post the 3 weeks post op results in a few days on his insta anyway

Great, I’ll wait! Speedy recovery wished