How does religion explain this?

[TsarTsar444]

logical practitioners of religion do not deny evolution. It can coexist with the idea of God and creation.

it can't coexist, i mean it technically can't because it's not a mathematical situation which can be proven to be either false or true, but its 99.99% unlikely. I just can't be bothered to explain why it 3am and i need to wageslave at 7am, you need to be low iq to think it can coexist. Tldr why it can't, basically there is no need for an evolution, in Christianity the men is the center of everything, why would God just not create man instantly and test him instead of billions of years of evolution just for one day some people in the judean dessert be magically be given a scripture from God afyer all that time, it's completely hilarious and illogical, this almighty God according to Shitistianity just gave some small group of people his message at first while nobody else knew nothing about him, like the Romans waged wars with Carthage and they never had a glimpse of this magnificent existence of YAHWEH in the middle east. Also humans are just souls with vesels, evolution wouldn't make sense with Christianity cause a bacteria doesn't have a soul or an animal, they are just here for our amusement according to Christianity.

 

[Baldingman1998]

evolution as we understand it completely contradicts the genesis of man as it is presented in christianity/islam to my understanding, religious people compromise and say stuff like "god can do anything" which helps them process the cognitive dissonance

Tbh that was my cope before I stopped believing in religion. I would explain the bigbang in verses like the heavens and stars. But evolution goes against creationism and there was no way to cope for me.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Islam doesn’t deny evolution, it believes humans are separate from it

why would this logically be the case? the whole blackpill ideology that everyone agrees on is based upon the same natural selection that other species are subject to. the whole reason why looks/height/frame/etc all matter is because those traits are considered positive for the human species to remain at the top of the animal kingdom (although this selection is currently in a weird period due to technological advancements).

People can be ignorant. You won’t have trouble finding many atheists (especially in the US), who cherry-pick science to their own benefit. Such as regarding transgenderism as completely ok and not a mental illness.

jfl quite oddly the only place where u can even find ppl to discuss with minimal bias is on these psl forums, everywhere else theres so much cherrypicking

 

[Warlow]

yeah doesnt make sense why so many religious ppl just deny the idea of evolution occuring. it makes much more sense (to me at least), that if God is the creator, then he'd control the mechanisms of evolution in order to produce diversity of species on this planet, and that the writing is more meant to be symbolical.

Absolutely, as you can see for the design of space and time, it's a very intricate process. There are two schools of thought of creation: the big bang theory or God himself designing the world. But think of how perfect the big bang theory would have to be for life to be sustainable here on earth. All mathematical ratios would have to be spot on, if the gravity was just even a tad bit off things would just go flying off wouldn't they? and when i say just a tad bit off i mean one part in a billion, that's literally all that was needed. So it should not be so far fetched that God designed everything in perfection and unity. From this idea here is why I say Creationism and Evolution work hand in hand with one another

 

[Deleted member 9072]

 

[sytyl]

Or they can rightfully say that the story of genesis is not a wholly literal account and that not everything in the bible / Quran is meant to be taken at face value

idk man, in both religions it's clear that god created mankind in his image, eve came from adam's rib and mankind came from them etc.

imo if you are muslim/christian you have to completely deny evolution or else your belief in your religion is not so steadfast

don't have a dog in this argument btw just my viewpoint, I respect people who follow their religion 100% rather than 70% + 30% cope

 

[sytyl]

Why are you laughing at me

laughed at the tranny example

 

[Deleted member 9072]

@sytyl @Baldingman1998
I may have been wrong in my wording and thay may have been confusing. What I meant was further back very distant ancestors of all land vertebrates evolved from fish. That part seems far fetched.

 

[Baldingman1998]

@sytyl @Baldingman1998
I may have been wrong in my wording. What I meant was further back very distant ancestors of all land vertebrates evolved from fish. That part seems far fetched.

Idc bro think what you want I have irl friend that doesn't believe in evolution and I always make fun of his low iq. But he is still a close friend anyway and he is smart in other things and we are cool.

 

[sytyl]

@sytyl @Baldingman1998
I may have been wrong in my wording and thay may have been confusing. What I meant was further back very distant ancestors of all land vertebrates evolved from fish. That part seems far fetched.

it's not 1 fish that magically came out to land, it's a huge number, each diverging according to their habitat etc.

 

[Baldingman1998]

it's not 1 fish that magically came out to land, it's a huge number, each diverging according to their habitat etc.

The reason why he thinks it's stupid is because he is imagening it in a very simple way. There were millions of animals that went extinct for many reasons and only the current animals (including us) survived this long and far.

 

[Deleted member 9072]

The reason why he thinks it's stupid is because he is imagening it in a very simple way. There were millions of animals that went extinct for many reasons and only the current animals (including us) survived this long and far.

Elab a bit more

 

[Warlow]

Elab a bit more

bruh how did don't you get that part? lol, natural selection. You're in college right?

 

[Baldingman1998]

Elab a bit more

What you think evolution is:

Reality:

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Islam doesn’t deny evolution, it believes humans are separate from it

So humans didn’t evolve but other species did ?

 

[Baldingman1998]

So humans didn’t evolve but other species did ?

Read his name that's your answer

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Idc bro think what you want I have irl friend that doesn't believe in evolution and I always make fun of his low iq. But he is still a close friend anyway and he is smart in other things and we are cool.

same here, when sytyl posted that video a couple days ago, i sent to one of my muslim friends (who is a good guy that i like spending time around).

but it still does utterly amaze me how someone whos training for medicine maintains these beliefs. level of cognitive dissonance is insane.

Elab a bit more

some water based creature needed to go into land for whatever survival rzn -> traits that would benefit survival on land became selected for -> eventually they became so distinct that they split into a new species -> same thing happening thousands of times over small things that eventually became the creatures we know today (not saying this is exactly what happened, but rather how it would happen)

 

[sytyl]

The reason why he thinks it's stupid is because he is imagening it in a very simple way. There were millions of animals that went extinct for many reasons and only the current animals (including us) survived this long and far.

it's a lot easier to understand if you think about it in terms of statistics

So humans didn’t evolve but other species did ?

that's how islam reconciles evolution, christianity also has a similar cope to try and make sense of it/integrate it without breaking the religion

same here, when sytyl posted that video a couple days ago, i sent to one of my muslim friends (who is a good guy that i like spending time around).

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but it still does utterly amaze me how someone whos training for medicine maintains these beliefs. level of cognitive dissonance is insane.


some water based creature needed to go into land for whatever survival rzn -> traits that would benefit survival on land became selected for -> eventually they became so distinct that they split into a new species -> same thing happening thousands of times over small things that eventually became the creatures we know today (not saying this is exactly what happened, but rather how it would happen)

man even when I was gigareligious I thought zakir naik was retarded, his "debate" style is similar to ben shapiro: just be louder and seem smarter and debate people with much less knowledge

 

[Blackout.xl]

it can't coexist, i mean it technically can't because it's not a mathematical situation which can be proven to be either false or true, but its 99.99% unlikely. I just can't be bothered to explain why it 3am and i need to wageslave at 7am, you need to be low iq to think it can coexist. Tldr why it can't, basically there is no need for an evolution, in Christianity the men is the center of everything, why would God just not create man instantly and test him instead of billions of years of evolution just for one day some people in the judean dessert be magically be given a scripture from God afyer all that time, it's completely hilarious and illogical, this almighty God according to Shitistianity just gave some small group of people his message at first while nobody else knew nothing about him, like the Romans waged wars with Carthage and they never had a glimpse of this magnificent existence of YAHWEH in the middle east. Also humans are just souls with vesels, evolution wouldn't make sense with Christianity cause a bacteria doesn't have a soul or an animal, they are just here for our amusement according to Christianity.

Wrong from top to bottom.

To say there’s no need, is to assume the position of god and insert your personal biases as fact, which obviously is faulty.

God in this situation doesn’t need to create man instantly, nor does god have to create it through a process of time. God doesn’t have to do anything in this scenario. Due to what The term “god” entails (highly powerful, highly intelligent).

Time, or resources, or urgency, are not relevant in this scenario either. Which removes All constraints and necessity to choose any option over the other.

Which means that there is 0 reason to believe that evolution is not compatible and that instant creation is necessary.

As for meeting people in the judean desert, you are viewing this in the wrong way. Refer to this article:

Why Did God Choose Israel?

The Bible clearly identifies the people of Israel as God’s chosen people. But He loves and has a plan for all people, so why did God choose Israel?

lifehopeandtruth.com

 

[Baldingman1998]

same here, when sytyl posted that video a couple days ago, i sent to one of my muslim friends (who is a good guy that i like spending time around).

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but it still does utterly amaze me how someone whos training for medicine maintains these beliefs. level of cognitive dissonance is insane.


some water based creature needed to go into land for whatever survival rzn -> traits that would benefit survival on land became selected for -> eventually they became so distinct that they split into a new species -> same thing happening thousands of times over small things that eventually became the creatures we know today (not saying this is exactly what happened, but rather how it would happen)

Zakir Naik probably made millions of Muslims leave islam with his low iq bullshit speeches/debates

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Idc bro think what you want I have irl friend that doesn't believe in evolution and I always make fun of his low iq. But he is still a close friend anyway and he is smart in other things and we are cool.

Don’t you live in Middle East ? Your friends gonna behead you soon

 

[Baldingman1998]

Don’t you live in Middle East ? Your friends gonna behead you soon

Nah some are super religious while others are cool ot depends where you live exactly and the people around you. Some still kill etc but most don't in my country atleast

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Nah some are super religious while others are cool ot depends where you live exactly and the people around you. Some still kill etc but most don't in my country atleast

Yea but if a giga religious Muslim finds out he might kill you. Your country is probably more religious than France

 

[sytyl]

Wrong from top to bottom.

To say there’s no need, is to assume the position of god and insert your personal biases as fact, which obviously is faulty.

God in this situation doesn’t need to create man instantly, nor does god have to create it through a process of time. God doesn’t have to do anything in this scenario. Due to what The term “god” entails (highly powerful, highly intelligent).

Time, or resources, or urgency, are not relevant in this scenario either. Which removes All constraints and necessity to choose any option over the other.

Which means that there is 0 reason to believe that evolution is not compatible and that instant creation is necessary.

As for meeting people in the judean desert, you are viewing this in the wrong way. Refer to this article:

Why Did God Choose Israel?

The Bible clearly identifies the people of Israel as God’s chosen people. But He loves and has a plan for all people, so why did God choose Israel?

lifehopeandtruth.com

the god you describe in your post is different from the god presented in christianity, don't you think?

 

[curryslayerordeath]

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Zakir Naik probably made millions of Muslims leave islam with his low iq bullshit speeches/debates

hahahaha he didnt even get the mathematics part of the argument correct. those videos are fucking hilarious tho

Wrong from top to bottom.

To say there’s no need, is to assume the position of god and insert your personal biases as fact, which obviously is faulty.

God in this situation doesn’t need to create man instantly, nor does god have to create it through a process of time. God doesn’t have to do anything in this scenario. Due to what The term “god” entails (highly powerful, highly intelligent).

Time, or resources, or urgency, are not relevant in this scenario either. Which removes All constraints and necessity to choose any option over the other.

Which means that there is 0 reason to believe that evolution is not compatible and that instant creation is necessary.

As for meeting people in the judean desert, you are viewing this in the wrong way. Refer to this article:

Why Did God Choose Israel?

The Bible clearly identifies the people of Israel as God’s chosen people. But He loves and has a plan for all people, so why did God choose Israel?

lifehopeandtruth.com

wouldnt the conclusion from this be that there exists a creator/God in some form that we cannot comprehend who has made this world and everything around us, but also that none of the religions hold any basis and are all essentially the same stories to learn from?

 

[Copeful]

@TheCopefulCurry given what you're majoring in you endorse this view? Lol

 

[Deleted member 9072]

@abmonger

 

[Copeful]

@TheCopefulCurry given what you're majoring in you endorse this view? Lol

I hate biology tbh going to switch majors

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Concept of evolution is easy enough to grasp. Yes rhe whole "fish to human" seems retarded on irs face but not when you consider the principle of evolution over billions of years. It's a slow process

Yes it does to me, even with the whole billion year slow process.

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Why are there so many religious apologists in this thread jfl. Me and @TheCopefulCurry are the only ones saying as it is and true.

 

[Blackout.xl]

hahahaha he didnt even get the mathematics part of the argument correct. those videos are fucking hilarious tho


wouldnt the conclusion from this be that there exists a creator/God in some form that we cannot comprehend who has made this world and everything around us, but also that none of the religions hold any basis and are all essentially the same stories to learn from?

Sure you can say that, it’s up to you

 

[Deleted member 6191]

Mfw lookmaxxing forum debunks religion and everyone is now atheist

 

[Baldingman1998]

I hate biology tbh going to switch majors

I felt the same when I accidentally took a feminist/political/colonialism/middle eastern class(it was all crying about boohoo white man bad middle east sensitive snowflakes that cry bubu we victims). The retarded professor made me fail because I said it's good if a first world country would take over us because we are too corrupt/incompetent to run our own country (all facts btw it's the Brutal truth). It's hard to study something that you hate or disagree with

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Why? Surely you can see a fish evolving into a slightly more complex species, and that species evolving into a more complex species, etc

My wording was a bit wrong and confusing, but jfl keep calling me low iq. I still find the idea stupid. I'm not gonna be an apologist like the others on this thread. If you believe in religion you believe it as it is. 100 percent straight up. Apologists are just cucks tbh.

 

[Deleted member 9072]

I never called you low iq?

That was mostly meant for the thread bro

 

[Baldingman1998]

I never called you low iq?

Change avi to

or

The one you have is incel in 2020

 

[Deleted member 9072]

@Biggdink aren't you christian? You believe in evolution?

 

[Deleted member 9072]

bump

 

[Baldingman1998]

bump

Why bump let it die you got roasted last page. For your sake bro.

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Why bump let it die you got roasted last page. For your sake bro.

why? Cause i don't believe the fact about distant ancestors of all land vertebrates being evolved from water creatures

 

[sytyl]

If you believe in religion you believe it as it is. 100 percent straight up

respect

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Religion mogs

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Religion mogs

Where's your son?

 

[Baldingman1998]

why? Cause i don't believe the fact about distant ancestors of all land vertebrates being evolved from water creatures

 

[Deleted member 7580]

@Biggdink aren't you christian? You believe in evolution?

Eh idk really, yea I’m Christian but sometimes feel like it’s stupid not to completely believe in evolution

maybe it’s part of Jewish brainwashing

 

[Baldingman1998]

Religion mogs

 

[Deleted member 9003]

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That’s like someone condemning the blackpill because of Elliot Rodger

 

[Deleted member 9072]

Eh idk really, yea I’m Christian but sometimes feel like it’s stupid not to completely believe in evolution

maybe it’s part of Jewish brainwashing

Why? no shit evolution is true and some concepts tie in with religion. But the fact the distant ancestors of land Vertebrates evolved from water creatures is farfetched.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Where's your son?

He ran away

 

[Deleted member 9072]

He ran away

@OhWellMaxing