How easy you’ll stay lean is mostly determined at adolescence

[Saint Casanova]

- If you were fat during your youth, especially during puberty, you would most likely have a greater number of fat cells than someone who was lean.

- Therefore, your body fat set point would most likely be quite a bit higher than someone who was naturally lean. That’s why some people find it easy to stay at 12 percent bf whilst others can’t get below 20 percent. The higher the fat cells you have, the more likely your Ghrelin is higher at baseline and thus you’re always hungry.

- To all teenagers here, if you’re overweight or obese, LOSE FAT. Once you’re an adult, your fat cells are constant.

- The somewhat good news is that there’s strong evidence that you can lower your bf set point at any time. The caveat is that to do so, you’ll have to maintain that low bf for at least a year! Which is very hard if you have lots of fat cells.

- The same concept could be true for muscle cells and satellite cells. If you were active during your youth, you’ll find it much easier to build muscle over time as you have more muscle cells than some untrained incel who played games all day. This holds true in my case as I did rowing, and Taekwondo when I was younger, so I notice that my back and legs, particularly grows faster than other muscles.

So teenagers here, maintain a healthy bf and do lots of sports. Even if you’re shit at them, just suck it up and do it because it will make it much easier for you to be healthier and fitter down the line.

 

[sudanguy]

What if you’re skinny fat as a teen

 

[Dele Alli Regen]

i read allat, high iq thread.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Cells aren’t real btw

 

[Saint Casanova]

What if you’re skinny fat as a teen

You would probably have more fat cells than a lean guy, but less than someone who’s actually obese. The issue is most of your fat will go to your waist and hips which could be an issue!

 

[Saint Casanova]

Cells aren’t real btw

What do you mean cells aren’t real jfl???? We’re all made up of different cells

 

[Deleted member 23558]

What do you mean cells aren’t real jfl???? We’re all made up of different cells

Associative Induction hypothesis, Gilbert Ling.

 

[sudanguy]

You would probably have more fat cells than a lean guy, but less than someone who’s actually obese. The issue is most of your fat will go to your waist and hips which could be an issue!

So get lean or stay skinny fat?

 

[444]

This is wrong and made up btw

 

[St.TikTokcel]

So get lean or stay skinny fat?

skinny fat = shit genetics or klinefelter's

 

[Saint Casanova]

This is wrong and made up btw

Nope, how many studies do you want to see ?

 

[444]

Nope, how many studies do you want to see ?

0 of ur made up pseudoscience

 

[Saint Casanova]

0 of ur made up pseudoscience

Why do obese people find it so hard to lose fat then jfl.?

“Researchers have found that the number of fat cells in your body is set during adolescence and remains constant through adulthood, regardless of whether you gain or lose weight. The findings may help to explain why it can be so hard for some people to drop pounds and keep them off.”

 

[Saint Casanova]

Associative Induction hypothesis, Gilbert Ling.

Summarise it for me.

 

[Saint Casanova]

skinny fat = shit genetics or klinefelter's

Skinny fat states are caused due to poor hormonal regulation and lack of activity/muscle

 

[444]

“Researchers have found that the number of fat cells in your body is set during adolescence and remains constant through adulthood, regardless of whether you gain or lose weight. The findings may help to explain why it can be so hard for some people to drop pounds and keep them off.”

Give me a source kike

Why do obese people find it so hard to lose fat then jfl.?

Because they're obese duh. People who are simply 10-20 pounds overweight will have an easier time getting to a healthy weight, because they have a closer starting point.

But the biggest reason why, is that people who are obese have extremely poor eating and exercise habits, habits that are very hard to kick. The same habits that made them obese in the first place, are the habits that will work towards keeping them obese, giving them a harder time losing weight.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Idk, I was extremely skinny as a kid (before 13), with ribs showing and all, but now the past years I've had a high amount of fat even though I was slim (ribs not showing, etc)

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Skinny fat states are caused due to poor hormonal regulation and lack of activity/muscle

Nope. It's entirely genetic. I know too many perma-rotters with lean bodies like pic related

 

[Allornothing]

Weight gain increases the size of fat cells not the number of them.

 

[Allornothing]

Also metabolism is everything I myself and my friends can eat whatever we want and barely gain weight.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Give me a source kike

Because they're obese duh. People who are simply 10-20 pounds overweight will have an easier time getting to a healthy weight, because they have a closer starting point.

But the biggest reason why, is that people who are obese have extremely poor eating and exercise habits, habits that are very hard to kick. The same habits that made them obese in the first place, are the habits that will work towards keeping them obese, giving them a harder time losing weight.

Dynamics of fat cell turnover in humans - Nature

This paper finds that the number of fat cells is set during childhood and adolescence, and adipocyte numbers for lean or obese individuals are subject to little variation during adulthood. Even after significant weight loss in adulthood and reduced adipocyte volume, adipocyte number remains the...

dx.doi.org

https://www.nature.com/articles/pr19812183.pdf

 

[Saint Casanova]

Nope. It's entirely genetic. I know too many perma-rotters with lean bodies like pic related
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Might be generics, but the underlying cause is still hormones.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Weight gain increases the size of fat cells not the number of them.

If you gain too much fat, new fat cells are actually created. That’s the issue.

 

[zap]

Autophagy from dry fasting might speed this process up no?

 

[Saint Casanova]

Also metabolism is everything I myself and my friends can eat whatever we want and barely gain weight.

Metabolism typically only results in a 300 calorie difference between people. So it’s manageable tbh.

 

[NerdcelThundercok]

Water, what to deleted fatcells?

 

[Saint Casanova]

Autophagy from dry fasting might speed this process up no?

Yeah, I’ve read that that could help!

 

[Saint Casanova]

Water, what to deleted fatcells?

They lose all their energy and basically die.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

but the underlying cause is still hormones.

Which are controlled by your genetics. Shit DNA = shit adrenal glands but it's all about the proportions in the end. You cannot look bad with with wide, straight shoulders and narrow waist and hips

 

[Saint Casanova]

Which are controlled by your genetics. Shit DNA = shit adrenal glands but it's all about the proportions in the end. You cannot look bad with with wide, straight shoulders and narrow waist and hips

Rain is a good example of that.

 

[Napoleon1800]

- If you were fat during your youth, especially during puberty, you would most likely have a greater number of fat cells than someone who was lean.

- Therefore, your body fat set point would most likely be quite a bit higher than someone who was naturally lean. That’s why some people find it easy to stay at 12 percent bf whilst others can’t get below 20 percent. The higher the fat cells you have, the more likely your Ghrelin is higher at baseline and thus you’re always hungry.

- To all teenagers here, if you’re overweight or obese, LOSE FAT. Once you’re an adult, your fat cells are constant.

- The somewhat good news is that there’s strong evidence that you can lower your bf set point at any time. The caveat is that to do so, you’ll have to maintain that low bf for at least a year! Which is very hard if you have lots of fat cells.

- The same concept could be true for muscle cells and satellite cells. If you were active during your youth, you’ll find it much easier to build muscle over time as you have more muscle cells than some untrained incel who played games all day. This holds true in my case as I did rowing, and Taekwondo when I was younger, so I notice that my back and legs, particularly grows faster than other muscles.

So teenagers here, maintain a healthy bf and do lots of sports. Even if you’re shit at them, just suck it up and do it because it will make it much easier for you to be healthier and fitter down the line.

I went from skinny to skinny fat I'm fucked brah. I'm thinking of bulking at 17 should I do it? I'm planning to heightmaxx as well don't wanna cut

 

[Saint Casanova]

I went from skinny to skinny fat I'm fucked brah. I'm thinking of bulking at 17 should I do it? I'm planning to heightmaxx as well don't wanna cut

Cut to at least 15 percent before bulking and it should be fine. If you eat lots of protein and do a slight deficit, it would not affect height jfl.

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Rain is a good example of that.

Same bloody species...

 

[Napoleon1800]

Cut to at least 15 percent before bulking and it should be fine. If you eat lots of protein and do a slight deficit, it would not affect height jfl.

Negatively affect height? Im like 17% bf rn.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Same bloody species...
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Horrible no shoulders or chest. Too brutal.

Is he XXY?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Horrible no shoulders or chest. Too brutal.

Is he XXY?

Perhaps or just loser DNA

 

[Saint Casanova]

Perhaps or just loser DNA

Brutal difference tbh. Frame is very important.

 

[Dele Alli Regen]

Brutal difference tbh. Frame is very important.

who tf is that guy. doesn’t even look real tbh. superman looking ass.

 

[Saint Casanova]

who tf is that guy. doesn’t even look real tbh. superman looking ass.

Cody Simpson, swimmer.

 

[Dele Alli Regen]

Cody Simpson, swimmer.

interesting. thought on whether people with hood frames are swimmers because it give them an advantage or whether people who swim develop better frames?

 

[Saint Casanova]

interesting. thought on whether people with hood frames are swimmers because it give them an advantage or whether people who swim develop better frames?

The former tbh. Especially at the higher levels. However swimming will help your frame if you’re young!

 

[Deleted member 4397]

real i can maintain 12 percent w/o trying. although during late teens i was klein bloat w hypothyroid but then suicide cut like 60 pounds w some meme sarms and test. prob made a difference despite the cope nature

 

[Mr. President]

deos it actually matter if the baseline is better or worse because we will have to pay the cost either way. This thread is kinda pointless, Does not matter if ur natural weight is high because we will have to be lean despite it

 

[NerdcelThundercok]

Rain is a good example of that.

I'm aspiring this but I don't have the genetics for it

 

[redfacccee]

this is true. the fat cells you had during adolescence are what you'll keep into adulthood. if you were anorexic as a child and suddenly decided to eat 8k calories as an adult you wouldn't be as fat as someone who cut down from obesity and then ate 8k calories like you.

 

[finn899]

this is true. the fat cells you had during adolescence are what you'll keep into adulthood. if you were anorexic as a child and suddenly decided to eat 8k calories as an adult you wouldn't be as fat as someone who cut down from obesity and then ate 8k calories like you.

what on gods green earth are these retarted ass conspiracies

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Rain is a good example of that.

Fuaaark mirin

Peak appeal male physique

 

[redfacccee]

what on gods green earth are these retarted ass conspiracies

nigga you can't even spell retarded who gave you the right to speak monkey boy?

 

[Deleted member 46997]

- If you were fat during your youth, especially during puberty, you would most likely have a greater number of fat cells than someone who was lean.

- Therefore, your body fat set point would most likely be quite a bit higher than someone who was naturally lean. That’s why some people find it easy to stay at 12 percent bf whilst others can’t get below 20 percent. The higher the fat cells you have, the more likely your Ghrelin is higher at baseline and thus you’re always hungry.

- To all teenagers here, if you’re overweight or obese, LOSE FAT. Once you’re an adult, your fat cells are constant.

- The somewhat good news is that there’s strong evidence that you can lower your bf set point at any time. The caveat is that to do so, you’ll have to maintain that low bf for at least a year! Which is very hard if you have lots of fat cells.

- The same concept could be true for muscle cells and satellite cells. If you were active during your youth, you’ll find it much easier to build muscle over time as you have more muscle cells than some untrained incel who played games all day. This holds true in my case as I did rowing, and Taekwondo when I was younger, so I notice that my back and legs, particularly grows faster than other muscles.

So teenagers here, maintain a healthy bf and do lots of sports. Even if you’re shit at them, just suck it up and do it because it will make it much easier for you to be healthier and fitter down the line.

cope, be disciplined

 

[inwardgonionscel]

Omg i want to kms i'm such a genetic shit