how many mms of forward growth of the maxilla to make it model tier?

[RecessedPrettyboy]

distraction osteogensis from the surgeon im getting it from cost from 6k-12k

k thats not too bad
has he offered you the treatment already?

 

[Deleted member 10172]

k thats not too bad
has he offered you the treatment already?

No, he said he would do a consultation with me but I can't. So I gotta wait till I'm 18.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

No, he said he would do a consultation with me but I can't. So I gotta wait till I'm 18.

how old are you now?

 

[Deleted member 756]

I know a surgeon who can do it

How much?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How much?

Why do you have such a shit post to rep ratio?

 

[Deleted member 756]

Why do you have such a shit post to rep ratio?

I have one more than 1

 

[Deleted member 10172]

k thats not too bad
has he offered you the treatment already?

ok all we need is this to achieve what dr sailers calls the "anteface"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+sailer

Time:13:00

Solutions
(Mandible/Maxillla)
(Surgery) - Bimaxillary Rotation Advancement (CCW)
(Solution) - (Moving the posterior part of the maxilla downward but leaving the middle part of the maxilla in place)
(Device) - (Temporary intraop. Distraction on the zygomatic buttress)
(Important) - The maxillary base is moved downard in the posterior part

Find someone to make this device and use it on you, and then do it

 

[randomvanish]

while you could just achieve what you want by chewing + ems device for 50 bucks jfl

omg, i cannot believe you think you can get all from just fucking "chewing". chewing will only get you tmj. good luck.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

just get 3cm from super bimax, reptiles theorem

 

[Ocelot]

pretty sure going beyond 10-12 mm is asking for trouble when it comes to the mandible
idk about maxilla

but genetics mog cutting your face open like this

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Depends on what you mean by “fix”. What’s the problem with your maxilla?

I need my maxilla downward in the posterior third we need to find a surgeon to d That and do bimaxillary protrusion

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

omg, i cannot believe you think you can get all from just fucking "chewing". chewing will only get you tmj. good luck.

That rotation in the pic he posted might be achievable depending on the case through superficial masseter chewing
That is literally what the lower masseter does

Just look at bruxsim patients that have angular jaws.

 

[randomvanish]

That rotation in the pic he posted might be achievable depending on the case through superficial masseter chewing
That is literally what the lower masseter does

Just look at bruxsim patients that have angular jaws.

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again, good luck with that. try it if you believe it can happen.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

again, good luck with that. try it if you believe it can happen.

I have had that happen to me lmao..
I have bruxism..
There is nothing about "believing". Its literally how your face bones work.
The mechanism of the lower masseter is build the ramus and bring the posterior maxilla down, it also brings the mandible forward.

Do you think your ancestors were recessed jfl

Tbh there is no point in continuing this convo. I dont care about convincing you and I cant convince a brick wall.

 

[randomvanish]

I have had that happen to me lmao..
I have bruxism..
There is nothing about "believing". Its literally how your face bones work.
The mechanism of the lower masseter is build the ramus and bring the posterior maxilla down, it also brings the mandible forward.

Do you think your ancestors were recessed jfl

Tbh there is no point in continuing this convo. I dont care about convincing you and I cant convince a brick wall.

here comes again ancestors bullshit. yeah post some giant monkey looking homo erectus skulls too.
your "jaw" cannot grow significantly with muscle force after puberty.

 

[randomvanish]

I have had that happen to me lmao..
I have bruxism..
There is nothing about "believing". Its literally how your face bones work.
The mechanism of the lower masseter is build the ramus and bring the posterior maxilla down, it also brings the mandible forward.

Do you think your ancestors were recessed jfl

Tbh there is no point in continuing this convo. I dont care about convincing you and I cant convince a brick wall.

also you claimed mouth widening won't give nas.folds too which is another giant bullshit. stop creating hypothetical scenarios and keep up with the scientifically proven case reports.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

also you claimed mouth widening won't give nas.folds too which is another giant bullshit. stop creating hypothetical scenarios and keep up with the scientifically proven case reports.

K name one user that has gotten naso folds?

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

here comes again ancestors bullshit. yeah post some giant monkey looking homo erectus skulls too.
your "jaw" cannot grow significantly with muscle force after puberty.

Your bones on the face dont stop growing buddy. In fact your face keeps growing till u die.

 

[randomvanish]

K name one user that has gotten naso folds?

name one user got significant size change with mouth widening tools, and you will see it.
don't stop that 65 years old guy, his skin saggy in the beginning.

 

[randomvanish]

Your bones on the face dont stop growing buddy. In fact your face keeps growing till u die.

yeah mew and chew then jfl

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

name one user got significant size change with mouth widening tools, and you will see it.
don't stop that 65 years old guy, his skin saggy in the beginning.

@Phillybeard1996

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

yeah mew and chew then jfl

I didnt mention mewing. And im not talking aboit bs normal chewing. With most people hypertrophying the middle masseter instead of the lower.
You still havent proven it cant happen

 

[randomvanish]

You still havent proven it cant happen

how the fuck can i prove without controlled experiment on that bs ? try to find some legit doctors who would give a shit about "bone growth" after puberty with chewing.


again, seriously, try it if you believe. no one is stopping you.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

how the fuck can i prove without controlled experiment on that bs ? try to find some legit doctors who would give a shit about "bone growth" after puberty with chewing.


again, seriously, try it if you believe. no one is stopping you.

Its not that hard to observe bruxism patients bro

Of course most doctors dont give a shit about it. They would much rather you pay thousands for some fillers or some surgery
Its not about believing. Its how your face works.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

@Phillybeard1996

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see folds on my face

@Phillybeard1996

 

[randomvanish]

Its not that hard to observe bruxism patients bro

Of course most doctors dont give a shit about it. They would much rather you pay thousands for some fillers or some surgery
Its not about believing. Its how your face works.

ok chew and get bigger jaw and enlighten us. i will be waiting. forever.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see folds on my face

yea you didnt get folds. I saw the pics. I got 8mm in width and didnt get folds neither.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

ok chew and get bigger jaw and enlighten us. i will be waiting. forever.

bruh I have already done that lmao. again Im done arguing with you. good luck with your surgeries.

 

[randomvanish]

bruh I have already done that lmao. again Im done arguing with you. good luck with your surgeries.

yeah pretty sure you done. bb

 

[Deleted member 4054]

From subhuman to gigachad with a 2cm upsliding lefort

 

[Deleted member 6873]

That rotation in the pic he posted might be achievable depending on the case through superficial masseter chewing
That is literally what the lower masseter does

Just look at bruxsim patients that have angular jaws.

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wtf that looks hella like my lower third