How many people actually hate me

[GuyFromSingapore]

Then that guy is not teaching a proper thing because in the bible it literally says through God's word world is created and God's word is God and God's word became flesh

There is no "becoming" of Vishnu into Rama/Krishna. He simply assumed forms. God is Unchanging and Eternal.

 

[ngannou]

Hes not saying that God is robed as flesh hes actually claiming the opposite saying that God became fully human in Jesus

That's why I said my expression wearing is not a correct wording but become flesh is correct wording according to the bible.

The God's word became flesh

 

[ngannou]

There is no "becoming" of Vishnu into Rama/Krishna. He simply assumed forms. God is Unchanging and Eternal.

Your god is contradicting the term omnipotent because your god says it can't be at the same time which

however our God is not intervened with concept of time.

Even Light can be a particle and wave at a same time but your god can't???. If light can be then why creator of light God can't?

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

That's why I said my expression wearing is not a correct wording but become flesh is correct wording according to the bible

So we brought ourself back to the argument of whether Jesus is capable of being sinless and human at the same time and your gonna bring up the thing that God is all powerful and can contradict himself which is fine ok meh whatever but most Christians dont believe that God can contradict himself

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Light can be a particle and wave at a same time. If light can be then why creator of light God can't?

The creation isn't the Creator. The laws of the universe is finite and limited. To apply the laws of the Universe to the Creator is illogical nonsense. This is Pantheism. I thought Christians are Monotheists?

God can do whatever He wants. As He is Almighty and Most Majestic.

 

[ngannou]

So we brought ourself back to the argument of whether Jesus is capable of being sinless and human at the same time and your gonna bring up the thing that God is all powerful and can contradict himself which is fine ok meh whatever but most Christians dont believe that God can contradict himself

So that's why the concept of spirit is important sin is corely correlated with spirit. Jesus' spirit and our spirit is different.

The spirit shows the state of sin

 

[ngannou]

The creation isn't the Creator. The laws of the universe is finite and limited. To apply the laws of the Universe to the Creator is illogical nonsense. This is Pantheism. I thought Christians are Monotheists?

God can do whatever He wants. As He is Almighty and Most Majestic.

No No you are clearly saying your god is bounded by the concept of time.

Which contradicts the term omnipotent even a created thing which is a light can be wave and a particle at the same thing but you are saying your god can't

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

So that's why the concept of spirit is important sin is corely correlated with spirit. Jesus' spirit and our spirit is different.

The spirit shows the state of sin

I was assuming you meant that Jesus had both a divine and human nature when you were distinguishing between robing and becoming

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

So we brought ourself back to the argument of whether Jesus is capable of being sinless and human at the same time and your gonna bring up the thing that God is all powerful and can contradict himself which is fine ok meh whatever but most Christians dont believe that God can contradict himself

Krishna was never human. He is just God assuming a form. He was always God. Christians are filthy kaffirs.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

I was assuming you meant that Jesus had both a divine and human nature when you were distinguishing between robing and becoming

And then he will deny all of this logical contradictions. Loool. This Christian doesn't seem to grasp basic theology.

 

[ngannou]

I was assuming you meant that Jesus had both a divine and human nature when you were distinguishing between robing and becoming

Krishna was never human. He is just God assuming a form. He was always God. Christians are filthy kaffirs.

Even in the bible does not say directly he is human because he ain't human like us.

The bible says God became flesh.

Does he have human nature?? Yes but is he human like us?? No.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Even in the bible does not say directly is human because he ain't human like us

The bible says God became flesh.

Well yeah you just said that and i sent the link to debunk that claim

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Even in the bible does not say directly is human because he ain't human like us

The bible says God became flesh.

What's the meaning of "God becoming flesh"? Incarnating? Was Jesus Omnipotent and Omniscient?

 

[ngannou]

Well yeah you just said that and i sent the link to debunk that claim

Does he have human nature?? Yes but is he human like us?? No.

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Even in the bible does not say directly he is human because he ain't human like us.

The bible says God became flesh.

Does he have human nature?? Yes but is he human like us?? No.

So Jesus was simultaneously God and human?

 

[ngannou]

What's the meaning of "God becoming flesh"? Incarnating? Was Jesus Omnipotent and Omniscient?

It exceeds the concept of incarnation which it is fully incomprehendible to explain in our mere intellectual concepts.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Does he have human nature?? Yes but is he human like us?? No.

Human nature is to sin. What you mean is that he had a divine spirit/nature but a human form

 

[ngannou]

Human nature is to sin. What you mean is that he had a divine spirit/nature but a human form

Was Adam and Eve sinful in the beginning?? No
but are they still human?? Yes.

We are humans after the corruption of adam and eve

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Was Adam and Eve sinful in the beginning?? No
but are they still human?? Yes

Yes but Jesus himself stated during his life that there are no humans without sin

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Was Adam and Eve sinful in the beginning?? No
but are they still human?? Yes.

We are humans after the corruption of adam and eve

Why are you comparing God with humans, you dirty Christian? God is Incomparable.

 

[ngannou]

Yes but Jesus himself stated during his life that there are no humans without sin

Because we are humans after the corruption of adam and eve.

Adam and Eve wasn't sinful before disobeying God to eat the fruit

 

[ngannou]

Why are you comparing God with humans, you dirty Christian? God is Incomparable.

God became doesn't mean the messiah is the same as human as us

 

[ngannou]

Why are you comparing God with humans, you dirty Christian? God is Incomparable.

Plus In the bible it never says Jesus was human but says God became flesh two different concepts

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Because we are humans after the corruption of adam and eve.

Adam and Eve wasn't sinful before disobeying God to eat the fruit

Yes, but if Jesus said that during his lifetime it would mean he is with sin or isnt human and your whole argument about him being like Adam and Eve pre original sin falls apart

 

[ngannou]

Yes, but if Jesus said that during his lifetime it would mean he is with sin or isnt human and your whole argument about him being like Adam and Eve pre original sin falls apart

He is not born from sex but born from holy spirit. the bible it never says Jesus was human but says God became flesh two different concepts.

I gave example of adam and eve before corruption because human nature doesn't mean sinful because adam and eve wasn't sinful at the beginning but did they feel hungry, and sleepy??? Probably being hungry and sleepy is not a sin but still human nature.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

He is not born from sex but born from holy spirit. the bible it never says Jesus was human but says God became flesh two different concepts.

Well yeah im aware you already said that thing about Jesus having a divine spirit but i already sent you a link debunking that which you havent addressed

 

[ngannou]

Well yeah im aware you already said that thing about Jesus having a divine spirit but i already sent you a link debunking that which you havent addressed

I gave example of adam and eve before corruption because human nature doesn't mean sinful because adam and eve wasn't sinful at the beginning but did they feel hungry, and sleepy??? Probably being hungry and sleepy is not a sin but still human nature.

Did Jesus had human nature like us to starve, and feel pain?? Yes but did he have sinful desire?? No.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

I gave example of adam and eve before corruption because human nature doesn't mean sinful because adam and eve wasn't sinful at the beginning but did they feel hungry, and sleepy??? Probably being hungry and sleepy is not a sin but still human nature.

Did Jesus had human nature like us to starve, and feel pain?? Yes but did he have sinful desire?? No

I already responded to that Jesus himself said all humans are with sin during his lifetime

 

[ngannou]

I already responded to that Jesus himself said all humans are with sin during his lifetime

Jesus nor the disciples never said directly said he was human Jesus had human nature but not same human as us.

Being human and God became flesh is different concepts.

They said he became flesh like us not the same human as us

His identity is messiah not human

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Jesus never said he was human Jesus had human nature but not same human as us

So if he had a human spirit then hes sinful since he said all humans are born with sin during his lifetime or if he had a divine spirit and was wearing flesh then you can refer to the link i sent you

 

[ngannou]

So if he had a human spirit then hes sinful since he said all humans are born with sin during his lifetime or if he had a divine spirit and was wearing flesh then you can refer the link i sent you

Yes but his spirit ain't the same as our spirit

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Yes but his spirit ain't the same as our spirit

Bro.. nigga...

 

[ngannou]

So if he had a human spirit then hes sinful since he said all humans are born with sin during his lifetime or if he had a divine spirit and was wearing flesh then you can refer the link i sent you

Being human and God became flesh is different concepts.

They said he became flesh like us not the same human as us

His identity is messiah not human

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Being human and God became flesh is different concepts.

They said he became flesh like us not the same human as us

His identity is messiah not human

Yes... i addressed that in the 2nd part of my reply......

 

[ngannou]

Yes... i addressed that in the 2nd part of my reply......

So then what's your point?? Jesus is God that became flesh not human.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

So then what's your point?? Jesus is God that became flesh.

So if he had a human spirit then hes sinful since he said all humans are born with sin during his lifetime or if he had a divine spirit and was wearing flesh then you can refer to the link i sent you

 

[ngannou]

We can't comprehend exactly how it is scientifically or mathematically logically possible or to understand the concept of God becoming flesh because only God can do it and God is too smart for us too understand

all we know is that his original nature is God but he became flesh and had human nature to starve and feel pain to feel sleepy...etc,

Wearing flesh and becoming flesh I would say it is two different terms.

As I told above my expression of wearing flesh is wrong so corrected by saying becoming flesh
@JeanneDArcAlter

 

[ngannou]

If you are confused some people explains by saying Jesus showed a life how human should have lived originally, so Jesus is sole example of how human should have lived

I wouldn't say this is the perfect or correct explanation but might help understanding

@JeanneDArcAlter

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

If you are confused some people explains by saying Jesus showed a life how human should have lived originally, so Jesus is the sole example of a perfect human how adam and eve should lived.

@JeanneDArcAlter

He said all humans are with sin during his lifetime

 

[ngannou]

He said all humans are with sin during his lifetime

What they say is Jesus lived a life how human should haved live without sinning.

"Should" A hypothetical term

A hypothetical concept of human being that live sinlessly not a real concept of human being.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

What they say is Jesus lived a life how human should haved live without sinning.

A hypothetical concept of human being that live sinlessly not a real concept of human

Then... refer to the link i sent

 

[ngannou]

Then... refer to the link i sent

Jesus is not a human but a messiah,

God himself showing example as a hypothetical sinless perfect human being which we should have lived obeying the Father

doesn't mean he is the same "human" as us.

Even the link never said he is the same human like us,

us real human and hypothetical perfect human is different.

get the context bro did bible ever said he was same human as us?? No

it clearly says he had flesh like us human but never said he is human.

Do you get the context?

@JeanneDArcAlter

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Jesus is not a human but a messiah,

God himself showing example as a hypothetical sinless perfect human being which we should have lived obeying the Father

doesn't mean he is the same "human" as us.

Even the link never said he is the same human like us,

us real human and hypothetical perfect human is different.

get the context bro did bible ever said he was same human as us?? No

it clearly says he had flesh like us human but never said he is human.

Do you get the context?

@JeanneDArcAlter

Not speaking out against something does not equal supporting something

 

[ngannou]

Not speaking out against something does not equal supporting something

You won't like the concept but understanding the concept is different. You can't still understand even though you don't like it

 

[ngannou]

Not speaking out against something does not equal supporting something

Just making it simpler for you too understand,

what all the pastors and christians saying that God became human is not referring to the same "real" human as us which sinned

but a "hypothetical" unexisting human which is sinless which we should have lived.

since that "hypothetical" human being does not exist it shows Jesus ain't the same human as us.

What Jesus was referring as human was "real us humans" not messiah himself

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

that "hypothetical" human being does not exist

 

[ngannou]

Yeah hypothetical so non existing. The human in the game or anime that can do superpowers ain't real human. Thus we don't call them human but a character.

Similarly Jesus had characteristics of human but we can't identify him as a human but a messiah

 

[Aypo129]

@Aypo129

Look at this hopeless Christian believing that Jesus is "the son of God" lolololol. While we believe that the incarnations of Vishnu are Brahman Himself.

Mogger
Jesus fags know nothing about og jesus krishna

 

[ngannou]

Mogger
Jesus fags know nothing about og jesus krishna

cope cow worshipper

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

Mogger
Jesus fags know nothing about og jesus krishna

Bhagavad Gita mogs.