how much can i expect to grow with my height stack

[hyomaxxer]

im 15,5 years old. When I had a hand injury, my doctor said my growth plates were open and that I probably had a few years left, but he didn't really go into detail because he was focused on the injury. here is the cycle:

350mg test/EW
40 mg var/ED
300 mast/EW
8 ius hgh/ED
2 mg Erdafitinib/ED
0,5 arimidex/ED

what can i expect and how do i optimise?

 

[Robertski]

im 15,5 years old. When I had a hand injury, my doctor said my growth plates were open and that I probably had a few years left, but he didn't really go into detail because he was focused on the injury. here is the cycle:

350mg test/EW
40 mg var/ED
300 mast/EW
8 ius hgh/ED
2 mg Erdafitinib/ED
0,5 arimidex/ED

what can i expect and how do i optimise?

add Ky19382 to inhibit CXXC5 its niche to find sourcing off a real vendor not indiamart they dont sell it.

 

[proxxyy11]

how tall are u rn

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

This stack will stunt your height btw.

 

[hyomaxxer]

how tall are u rn

6,1

 

[hyomaxxer]

This stack will stunt your height btw.

why?

 

[proxxyy11]

6,1

why inject yourself with sm unnatural shit, especially if you're already well off with your current height?

these are last option products for short people, don't do anything that can harm your body - don't be a test subject

this amt of product will probably stump your height instead too. just eat well, exercise, and sleep.

 

[hyomaxxer]

why inject yourself with sm unnatural shit, especially if you're already well off with your current height?

these are last option products for short people, don't do anything that can harm your body - don't be a test subject

this amt of product will probably stump your height instead too. just eat well, exercise, and sleep.

no nigga

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

why?

Test = height stunt no matter how much AIs yuo Take.

8IUs = depending on your bodyweight it might be way to low dosed

40mg Var = unnecessary liver toxicity.

0.5mg Adex = way to low dosed, and as mentioned before test will stunt height Arimidex won’t do much.

 

[proxxyy11]

no nigga

hope ur liver fails and u fucking die nigger

 

[hyomaxxer]

Test = height stunt no matter how much AIs yuo Take.

8IUs = depending on your bodyweight it might be way to low dosed

40mg Var = unnecessary liver toxicity.

0.5mg Adex = way to low dosed, and as mentioned before test will stunt height Arimidex won’t do much.

so much wrong here:

test: make the window smaller but make it more aggressive. maybe i should lower the dose but it's kinda essential if i wanna run DHTs for dimorphism

8 ius: as far as i can tell you just followed the ISS formula of 0.24-0.37 mg/kg/week. this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness. the average teen already has normal GH levels so copying those protocols 1:1 makes no sense. also, 8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day, so acting like it's some conservative dose is pretty ridiculous

40 mg var: i somewhat agree but again anavar is way less liver toxic than people make it out to be. people talk about it like it's halo or superdrol when it's not even close

0.5 arimidex: i don't know why you said it was too low. 0.5 mg adex has been shown to lower estrogen about 80%, and then you add mast on top of that. i think that's more than enough bhai

moral of the story don't listen to low iq fag manlets

 

[hyomaxxer]

hope ur liver fails and u fucking die nigger

kinda funny ngl

 

[proxxyy11]

so much wrong here:

test: make the window smaller but make it more aggressive. maybe i should lower the dose but it's kinda essential if i wanna run DHTs for dimorphism

8 ius: as far as i can tell you just followed the ISS formula of 0.24-0.37 mg/kg/week. this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness. the average teen already has normal GH levels so copying those protocols 1:1 makes no sense. also, 8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day, so acting like it's some conservative dose is pretty ridiculous

40 mg var: i somewhat agree but again anavar is way less liver toxic than people make it out to be. people talk about it like it's halo or superdrol when it's not even close

0.5 arimidex: i don't know why you said it was too low. 0.5 mg adex has been shown to lower estrogen about 80%, and then you add mast on top of that. i think that's more than enough bhai

moral of the story don't listen to low iq fag manlets

might be a manlet but ur going thru all this work when i can just reach ur height thru surgery jfl

 

[alexbrown8384]

im 15,5 years old. When I had a hand injury, my doctor said my growth plates were open and that I probably had a few years left, but he didn't really go into detail because he was focused on the injury. here is the cycle:

350mg test/EW
40 mg var/ED
300 mast/EW
8 ius hgh/ED
2 mg Erdafitinib/ED
0,5 arimidex/ED

what can i expect and how do i optimise?

Lower test nigga wayy to high you want your plates to close early??

increase hgh

 

[alexbrown8384]

might be a manlet but ur going thru all this work when i can just reach ur height thru surgery jfl

LL surgery is so terrible

 

[proxxyy11]

LL surgery is so terrible

based on ..?

 

[alexbrown8384]

based on ..?

The aftereffects what else? You walk like shit, get terrible pains later in life, the price for it itself is ass

I mean its fine and a decent surgery its just why do that when you can use pharma

 

[hyomaxxer]

Lower test nigga wayy to high you want your plates to close early??

increase hgh

test to 250 mgs or even lower?

 

[alexbrown8384]

test to 250 mgs or even lower?

I would say >150mg i do 100mg

 

[proxxyy11]

The aftereffects what else? You walk like shit, get terrible pains later in life, the price for it itself is ass

I mean its fine and a decent surgery its just why do that when you can use pharma

effects afterwards only last up to a year. those who get the surgery walk fine later in life and are completely like pre surgery

the only thing that may be of concern is the price and the 1 year of life you are forced to sacrifice (which is a good tradeoff for extra height)

you would do it so you don't have to go thru all the trouble of sticking random chemicals in your body during puberty

 

[hyomaxxer]

I would say >150mg i do 100mg

muscle growth at 150 mgs is ass tho

 

[hyomaxxer]

effects afterwards only last up to a year. those who get the surgery walk fine later in life and are completely like pre surgery

the only thing that may be of concern is the price and the 1 year of life you are forced to sacrifice (which is a good tradeoff for extra height)

you would do it so you don't have to go thru all the trouble of sticking random chemicals in your body during puberty

 

[proxxyy11]

cope

 

[alexbrown8384]

effects afterwards only last up to a year. those who get the surgery walk fine later in life and are completely like pre surgery

the only thing that may be of concern is the price and the 1 year of life you are forced to sacrifice (which is a good tradeoff for extra height)

you would do it so you don't have to go thru all the trouble of sticking random chemicals in your body during puberty

you still get permanent muscle weakness and loss of maximum athleticism

Changes your proportions weirdly (which does have a big impact) increased arthritis

More nerve sensitivity, tissue scars

 

[proxxyy11]

you still get permanent muscle weakness and loss of maximum athleticism

Changes your proportions weirdly (which does have a big impact) increased arthritis

More nerve sensitivity, tissue scars

dnr

 

[Kojo]

add Ky19382 to inhibit CXXC5 its niche to find sourcing off a real vendor not indiamart they dont sell it.

Silly advice, you didn't even correct the multitude of other issues he has

 

[milkshake_addict]

Silly advice, you didn't even correct the multitude of other issues he has

ive been meaning to pm you for your sources

 

[hyomaxxer]

Silly advice, you didn't even correct the multitude of other issues he has

what issues?

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

test: make the window smaller but make it more aggressive. maybe i should lower the dose but it's kinda essential if i wanna run DHTs for dimorphism

Are you retarded? You know that it’ll stunt growth but still do it? Also, no it’s not essential in any way.

8 ius: as far as i can tell you just followed the ISS formula of 0.24-0.37 mg/kg/week. this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness. the average teen already has normal GH levels so copying those protocols 1:1 makes no sense. also, 8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day, so acting like it's some conservative dose is pretty ridiculous

Ineffective dose, 0.05-0.07mg+ mogs.

Also I don’t know where you get the information from that Exogenous gh is 4 times stronger than endogenous gh in that dosage range lmfao.

40 mg var: i somewhat agree but again anavar is way less liver toxic than people make it out to be. people talk about it like it's halo or superdrol when it's not even close

I don’t say that it’s very liver toxic, just super unnecessary considering it’s not gonna do much lol.

0.5 arimidex: i don't know why you said it was too low. 0.5 mg adex has been shown to lower estrogen about 80%, and then you add mast on top of that. i think that's more than enough bhai

Not optimal, optimal Estradial levels for height is 0.

moral of the story don't listen to low iq fag manlets

Moral of the story, let’s use 350mg test and 0.5mg adex (not as if that’s gonna do anything for local aromatization jfl) and see how that goes

Niggas on here are mentally retarded.

Go ahead and use a high Androgenic load with medium estrogenic signalling, will be great for bone aging velocity

 

[Kojo]

im 15,5 years old. When I had a hand injury, my doctor said my growth plates were open and that I probably had a few years left, but he didn't really go into detail because he was focused on the injury. here is the cycle:

350mg test/EW
40 mg var/ED
300 mast/EW
8 ius hgh/ED
2 mg Erdafitinib/ED
0,5 arimidex/ED

what can i expect and how do i optimise?

Get rid of the test throw the var in the bin and use tren instead

Use 2.5 letrozole ed instead

 

[Kojo]

so much wrong here:

test: make the window smaller but make it more aggressive. maybe i should lower the dose but it's kinda essential if i wanna run DHTs for dimorphism

8 ius: as far as i can tell you just followed the ISS formula of 0.24-0.37 mg/kg/week. this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness. the average teen already has normal GH levels so copying those protocols 1:1 makes no sense. also, 8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day, so acting like it's some conservative dose is pretty ridiculous

40 mg var: i somewhat agree but again anavar is way less liver toxic than people make it out to be. people talk about it like it's halo or superdrol when it's not even close

0.5 arimidex: i don't know why you said it was too low. 0.5 mg adex has been shown to lower estrogen about 80%, and then you add mast on top of that. i think that's more than enough bhai

moral of the story don't listen to low iq fag manlets

He's right, you're retarded for everything you said here and clearly did zero research, I'll respond to this rn

 

[Kojo]

ive been meaning to pm you for your sources

pm

 

[Kojo]

what issues?

Adex test and var

 

[milkshake_addict]

pm

will do soon

 

[alexbrown8384]

dnr

ig bro

 

[hyomaxxer]

Get rid of the test throw the var in the bin and use tren instead

Use 2.5 letrozole ed instead

Letrozole or anastrozole, does it really matter? I've read studies arguing in favor of both. I'd argue the difference probably isn't that significant in practice.

And honestly, the tren is too much for me. I can't live a normal life with that shit in my system.

 

[Robertski]

Silly advice, you didn't even correct the multitude of other issues he has

I just told him what to add I didnt really focus on whats wrong with it

 

[bluebandz]

im 15,5 years old. When I had a hand injury, my doctor said my growth plates were open and that I probably had a few years left, but he didn't really go into detail because he was focused on the injury. here is the cycle:

350mg test/EW
40 mg var/ED
300 mast/EW
8 ius hgh/ED
2 mg Erdafitinib/ED
0,5 arimidex/ED

what can i expect and how do i optimise?

your gonna get shorter bro

 

[bluebandz]

why inject yourself with sm unnatural shit, especially if you're already well off with your current height?

these are last option products for short people, don't do anything that can harm your body - don't be a test subject

this amt of product will probably stump your height instead too. just eat well, exercise, and sleep.

why tf r u on org??? He shouldn’t be taking var or test and stuff but why are you on org??

 

[proxxyy11]

why tf r u on org??? He shouldn’t be taking var or test and stuff but why are you on org??

natural.

 

[bluebandz]

natural.

seriously why r u on org tho i respect your opinion and understand it but why go here of all places

 

[Kojo]

so much wrong here:

test: make the window smaller but make it more aggressive. maybe i should lower the dose but it's kinda essential if i wanna run DHTs for dimorphism

Test should be raped, very low trt dose at least. There's no reason you'd have almost half a gram of test when trying to grow, say hello to intracrine aromatisation

8 ius: as far as i can tell you just followed the ISS formula of 0.24-0.37 mg/kg/week. this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness. the average teen already has normal GH levels so copying those protocols 1:1 makes no sense. also, 8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day, so acting like it's some conservative dose is pretty ridiculous

"this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness" said no piece of literature or study ever and is actually counterintuitive. Idiopathy is when an event has no aetiology which means there is zero cause.

If they had receptor insensitivity that would quite literally be an aetiology for the case, do you think you're more intelligent/consistent that scientists? If they had aetiology they would not have labeled them ISS they'd be labeled GHI or GHR aka Laron Syndrome. They did those dosages to get them to override their predicted FAH in an airtight manner

"8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day" Complete broscience, said no piece of literature ever again. All the literature points towards somewhere around 4-6iu on average and potentially having even more arbitrarily in pulses when test is really high. 8iu is definitely conservative

40 mg var: i somewhat agree but again anavar is way less liver toxic than people make it out to be. people talk about it like it's halo or superdrol when it's not even close

Shit NAAAS, much better options

0.5 arimidex: i don't know why you said it was too low. 0.5 mg adex has been shown to lower estrogen about 80%, and then you add mast on top of that. i think that's more than enough bhai

moral of the story don't listen to low iq fag manlets

It only nuking 80% e2 actively makes your problem much worseYou do know how negative feedback loops act on estrogen receptors right?

When the body notices somethnig is lacking it always upregulates and vice versa. For example, when the body notices it lacks estrogen, it upregulates the sensitivity of the estrogen receptors in your growth plates to that remaining 20% so you've effectively changed nothing.

Alongisde that retarded test dosage, and the other feedback loop from ai's that increase estrogen you're literally raping your growth plates with more and more estrogen. It's no E2 and low Test or the high way

 

[Kojo]

Letrozole or anastrozole, does it really matter? I've read studies arguing in favor of both. I'd argue the difference probably isn't that significant in practice.

And honestly, the tren is too much for me. I can't live a normal life with that shit in my system.

Letrozole decreases estrogen by 98%

Anastrozole by 80-85%. It matters a lot when negative feedback loops come into play

 

[fraudster#1]

Test should be raped, very low trt dose at least. There's no reason you'd have almost half a gram of test when trying to grow, say hello to intracrine aromatisation

"this isn't accurate whatsoever because ISS kids have to use those crazy doses due to poor GH sensitivity/effectiveness" said no piece of literature or study ever and is actually counterintuitive. Idiopathy is when an event has no aetiology which means there is zero cause.

If they had receptor insensitivity that would quite literally be an aetiology for the case, do you think you're more intelligent/consistent that scientists? If they had aetiology they would not have labeled them ISS they'd be labeled GHI or GHR aka Laron Syndrome. They did those dosages to get them to override their predicted FAH in an airtight manner

"8 ius is roughly 4x more GH than what the average person naturally produces per day" Complete broscience, said no piece of literature ever again. All the literature points towards somewhere around 4-6iu on average and potentially having even more arbitrarily in pulses when test is really high. 8iu is definitely conservative

Shit NAAAS, much better options

It only nuking 80% e2 actively makes your problem much worseYou do know how negative feedback loops act on estrogen receptors right?

When the body notices somethnig is lacking it always upregulates and vice versa. For example, when the body notices it lacks estrogen, it upregulates the sensitivity of the estrogen receptors in your growth plates to that remaining 20% so you've effectively changed nothing.

Alongisde that retarded test dosage, and the other feedback loop from ai's that increase estrogen you're literally raping your growth plates with more and more estrogen. It's no E2 and low Test or the high way

heard what this guy said above @hyomaxxer
stack should be like
80 mg test
14 iu+ hgh (maybe even more depending of your weight)
non aromatizable androgens
dht derivatives for er antagonism
and nuke this estrogen