How much do you need to sacrifice face for gym gains?

Sure when you want more muscle you have to bulk and your face will be bloated, but it's just for 8-10 month, after you can be shredded for the rest of your life.
Be a man, bulk ! You can always slay if you're bloated bro, you will be more confident with big arms

What do you mean? If you bulk once for 8 - 10 months you never have to bulk again? I thought you have to bulk and cut regularly. How does that work?

and you think you are scrawny? I'm 187cm and 65kg.brootal

Yeah I look really skinny. I have actually lost a lot of weight recently for some reason and muscle along with that.
 
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Please help me. It's a genuine dilemma. I want to look more dom but at the same time I don't want to have to sacrifice my face leanness.

What is the highest bodyfat% you have to put on when bulking? How will this affect face? How much will a clean bulk bloat you?

Btw, I don't want to look like a bloated ogre like Eddie Hall. I have prettyboy pheno so basically I want to have big arms, chest and back while remaining at low bf%

This would be my long-term goal (Logan Paul, right) or at least as close to this as my genes would allow me.
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How much would I have to bloat my face for this? I'd be okay to settle for less if it means getting less facial bloat.

I don't want to end up like this subhuman


Brad Pitt fight club is ideal if natty, troy if not
 
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With a long time bulking (sorry for my bad english) you can reach a great body enough, you don't want a bodybuilder body right ? I mean with just one or two bulking period in your life you will be satisfied
 
With a long time bulking (sorry for my bad english) you can reach a great body enough, you don't want a bodybuilder body right ? I mean with just one or two bulking period in your life you will be satisfied

How long are the bulking periods?
 
I made a thread about the same issue last August, there has been some discussion, maybe we could get some new input on it:


This issue is, for me, the crux of the matter regarding the trade-off between gymcelling and optimizing facial aesthetics, aka youth.
 
For fuck sakes.. you don’t get fat from bulking if you clean bulk and do it right. Keep your protein high and fats low! Stop eating at McDonald’s and Burger King. Use a meal prep service, drink water only if possible
 
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I went trought the same dilema.

I choose bulking , i will.bulk till i reach a good weight ( 83-85kg for 180cm 16-17yo) .

Obviously my face look worse , i am 18-20% bodyfat rn but i put some size in months , worth it

I will keep bulking till summer , then i will eat a very strict lean bulk and will inject hgh .
 
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Gymaxxing helps with facial aesthetics. 2 birds with 1 stone.
 
Gymceling helps with Tinder and my body isn't even amazing or on Logan Paul's level.
Also if you have masculine features or base, you have to gymcel otherwise, good luck pulling off a strong lower third.
 
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get to 10%bf then bulk to 15%, u dont need to go above 15%. Only people eating junkfood go above 15% when bulking.
If you start bulking at 15% u will end at 20% if you eat clean.
Also 15% is not the magic number for face aesthetic, its 8%, this is my lower third at 15% vs at 8%
damn
 
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wouldn't bloat myself at all for gym gains
 
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