How muscules actually affects face (unlike some people here dont belive so) BIG THREAD

[Romxnus753AC]

lets talk about this.
its known, among the people of this community facial muscules are views as useless or of small importance, all the attention is based off your bone structure (which is very important) but not everything.

FAT & MUSCULE RELATION IN THE BODY

When you exercise, your body needs extra energy. It gets this energy mainly by breaking down glycogen (stored carbs) and fat. However, fat loss happens systemically, not locally. That means your body pulls fat from all over — not just from the area you're working out. For example, doing lots of ab exercises won't specifically burn belly fat; you'll lose fat from wherever your body decides, based on genetics, hormones, and overall metabolism.

VERY IMPORANT
More muscle = higher resting metabolism → you burn more calories 24/7, even when you're not working out.
Resistance training increases the body's ability to oxidize (burn) fat over time, especially after sessions!!!

In short:
Training a muscle helps improve your overall fat-burning capacity, but the fat surrounding the muscle won't be preferentially used just because you're working that muscle. True fat loss comes from creating a calorie deficit over time, combined with strength training and good nutrition.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THE CONCEPT IN MIND, LETS SEE WHAT MUSCULES DO IF THEY ARE OVERTRAINED OR TRAINED EVERY DAY

When you train muscles a lot, your body becomes better at burning fat overall, but it doesn’t burn fat directly from the area you’re training.


Here’s what actually happens:

• When you work out hard, your muscles use stored glycogen (carbs) first.
• As glycogen gets used up, your body starts breaking down fat for energy — but it pulls fat from anywhere in your body, not just the area you trained.
• Over time, with consistent training, you build more muscle mass. More muscle raises your metabolism, meaning you naturally burn more calories and fat even when you're resting.

So training muscles a lot makes you better at burning fat, but fat loss happens across your whole body, not just near the trained muscles.


Quick science behind it:

• Fat cells release fatty acids into the bloodstream when energy is needed.
• Your body burns those fatty acids wherever it needs energy — it's not targeted to where you worked out.

SO NOW THAT WE HAVE IN MIND HOW OUR BODY WORKS LETS SEE THE FACE-
If you train your facial muscles a lot, you can definitely change the way your face looks — but it’s a little different from training body muscles.

Facial muscles are smaller and more delicate, so when you train them, you mainly get more tone, better definition, and sometimes a lifting effect. this is what happens:

• The muscles under your skin get stronger and slightly thicker.
• As they firm up, they push the skin upward and outward, which can make your face look tighter, more lifted, and even slimmer.
• Regular facial training can also improve blood flow and lymphatic drainage, reducing puffiness and helping your skin look healthier and brighter.

NOW WHAT WILL HAPPEND IF MUSCULES GET STRONGER AND TIGHT?? they will come closer to your bone structure because the muscule will burn everything in order to grow which means your skin will also tighten around the muscule and so you get your cool effects

A SOLUTION EVEN IF EXTREME COULD "Hypertrophy"

Hypertrophy means the growth or increase in size of muscle cells.
It’s what happens when you consistently challenge muscles — they adapt by getting bigger and stronger

• In the body (like arms, chest, legs), hypertrophy is what makes muscles visibly grow after weight training.
• In the face, hypertrophy can also happen, but it's much more subtle because facial muscles are much smaller and thinner than body muscles.

BUT IT DOSENT MEAN THEY WONT GROW... ill give you examples of facial hypertrophys you never seen before

RARE CASE OF ZYGOMATICUS AND MASSETER MUSCULES hypertrophy

ex 2 for zygos

and yes that isnt all bone , that is muscule

ex 3 jaw (not gonials) just generic jaw muscules

NOW HOW TO GROW THEM???
ZONES OF FOCUS
-NECK
-MASSETERS
-Zygomaticus Major and Minor (cheek muscles)
-orbicularis Oculi (muscle around your eyes)
-Frontalis (forehead muscle)

(very important!)

• Progressive overload = You must challenge the muscles over time (harder contractions, more resistance, longer time under tension).
• Slow, controlled movements = No rushing. Quality > Quantity.
• Daily training with rest days if you feel sore (like real muscles).
• Symmetry = Always do exercises evenly on both sides.
• Facial resistance tools (optional) = Things like mewing gum, jawline devices, or resistance balls can help but not mandatory.

1. Masseter Training (Jawline)​

• Exercise: Hard chewing simulation (no food!)
• How:
  • Clench your teeth lightly (do NOT grind)
  • Press molars together while keeping lips closed
  • Hold the contraction for 10 seconds, relax, repeat.
• Sets: 3 x 10 reps
• Tip: You can use mewing gum or jaw exerciser for extra resistance.

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2. Zygomaticus Major/Minor (Cheeks)​

• Exercise: Cheek lifts + resistance
• How:
  • Smile as wide as you can while keeping lips closed.
  • Put two fingers on each side of your cheeks and push down gently, resisting with your smile.
  • Hold maximum contraction for 5-10 seconds, then relax.
• Sets: 3 x 12 reps

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3. Orbicularis Oculi (Eyes)​

• Exercise: Squint and lift
• How:
  • Close your eyes gently.
  • Then squeeze the muscles around your eyes (not eyebrows) as if you are "half-squinting" — feel the muscles around the orbital bone working.
  • Hold for 5-10 seconds, release slowly.
• Sets: 3 x 15 reps

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4. Frontalis (Forehead)​

• Exercise: Brow lifts with resistance
• How:
  • Place both hands above your eyebrows, press down slightly.
  • Try to lift your eyebrows up against your hands’ resistance.
  • Hold for 5 seconds, release slowly.
• Sets: 3 x 15 reps

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5. Platysma (Neck and Jawline)​

• Exercise: Neck lifts
• How:
  • Tilt your head back and look at the ceiling
  • neck curls heavy weight
  • Smile while keeping lips closed and feel your neck tighten
• Sets: 3 x 10 reps

SO IN SHORT SWORDS
u gotta chew hard shit, you gotta smile a lot i mean a lot, you need to do neck curls and other shit as u can see...
now what it will look like???
examples
NECK

ORBICULARI OCULI

FRONTALIS

MASSETER

ZYGOS

NOW THE QUESTION OF THE YEAR!!!!!! GOES TO WHAT WILL HAPPEND TO FAT????
The muscle under the skin gets bigger and firmer.

• This makes the structure of your face tighter and pushes against the skin.
• As a result, your face looks sharper, more sculpted, even if fat levels stay the same at first.
• • It improves blood circulation and lymphatic drainage → less puffiness and water retention in the face.
  • Firmer muscles "press" against soft tissues (fat, skin), making the area look tighter, less saggy, and less "bloated.
• AND BLAH BLAH BLAHHH

so now some science...

contracting thousands of small muscle fibers. Each of those fibers is a muscle cell, made of thousands more “links” called sarcomeres. When our brain sends a signal to move, the chain reaction that flexes your guns starts here. And inside each sarcomere (I swear this is the last stop on the Muscle School Bus) are even tinier “contractile fibers” called actin and myosin . This is where the magic of muscle growth happens.

Muscle growth (or “skeletal muscle hypertrophy,” as it’s called at science parties) is the result of a complex process that adds more myosin “filaments” to each muscle fiber. This makes the “engine” of the cell bigger and stronger over time.

NOW TESTOSTERONE IS VERY VERY INVOLVED IN THIS
LETS MAKE SOME CALCULATIONS...
The Vermeulen Equation — one of the most accepted ways to estimate free testosterone:

Where:

• FT = Free Testosterone (in nmol/L)
• TT = Total Testosterone (in nmol/L)
• SHBG = Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (in nmol/L)
• K = Affinity constant (about 1 × 10⁹ L/mol for testosterone-SHBG binding)

example

Suppose you have:

• Total Testosterone (TT) = 20 nmol/L
• SHBG = 30 nmol/L
• K = 1×1091 \times 10^91×109 L/mol (constant)

(1×109)×20=2×1010 NUMERATOR
1+(1×109)×30=1+3×1010=3.000000001×1010 DENOMINATOR
then divide the whole thing
and simplfy...
the result is approx
FT≈3/2
what does this mean?
Free Testosterone = ~0.666 nmol/L

• A normal free testosterone level is usually around 0.2–0.6 nmol/L for adult males.
• Higher than 0.6 is good

 

[ThisCat]

 

[Romxnus753AC]

in short words for people who are too lazy, reach max muscule stress and your face will be more usual to burn things to feed the growing muscules

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

 

[ThisCat]

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[idkmanimao]

so can big masseters make it look like you have higher or more bone mass?

 

[Romxnus753AC]

so can big masseters make it look like you have higher or more bone mass?

yes. but not only masseters all facial muscules can make you look bigger, as ur body looks big when u train it the musucles in the face will also adapt and become bigger if u ofc train them

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Seems good compilation to me

 

[idkmanimao]

yes.

hmm alr, how long will it take to build a pretty big masseter? and can you check my thread out n help me rq?

 

[Romxnus753AC]

hmm alr, how long will it take to build a pretty big masseter? and can you check my thread out n help me rq?

link ur thread

 

[idkmanimao]

link ur thread

holy bones, tell me what I need to take to get there

lens distorion btw, my jaw nface is wider

looksmax.org

 

[Shinichi]

yes. but not only masseters all facial muscules can make you look bigger, as ur body looks big when u train it the musucles in the face will also adapt and become bigger if u ofc train them

What do you have to say to those who claim it bloats you instead?

 

[Youㅤ]

1. Masseter Training (Jawline)​

• Exercise: Hard chewing simulation (no food!)
• How:
  • Clench your teeth lightly (do NOT grind)
  • Press molars together while keeping lips closed
  • Hold the contraction for 10 seconds, relax, repeat.
• Sets: 3 x 10 reps
• Tip: You can use mewing gum or jaw exerciser for extra resistance.

this nigga never actually trained masseters. u need to do more than touch ur teeth together. shirtclench is law

 

[Romxnus753AC]

What do you have to say to those who claim it bloats you instead?

those who claim it """"bloats""" you or look at them selfes after the training when the muscules are getting bigger so ofc they look fucking big like its logic even with ur arms and shoulder and legs it works this way, after a training ur muscules look bigger and then calm down

 

[Romxnus753AC]

this nigga never actually trained masseters. u need to do more than touch ur teeth together. shirtclench is law

to reach hyperthropy u can just spam that for an hour or so

 

[Youㅤ]

to reach hyperthropy u can just spam that for an hour or so

nope wont work

 

[Romxnus753AC]

nope wont work

as long you put stress on muscules as much to the point you break them it works, since they will need the time to reform themselfes and become bigger

 

[menas]

bookmarked

 

[Youㅤ]

as long you put stress on muscules as much to the point you break them it works, since they will need the time to reform themselfes and become bigger

i bet u never tried ur own method and saw results

 

[Romxnus753AC]

i bet u never tried ur own method and saw results

i did for the zygos, and infact my zygos are bigger then my gonials same for forehead

 

[Shinichi]

those who claim it """"bloats""" you or look at them selfes after the training when the muscules are getting bigger so ofc they look fucking big like its logic even with ur arms and shoulder and legs it works this way, after a training ur muscules look bigger and then calm down

Well, there are people who say it gives a rounded shape and doesnt controbute to angularity. It gives the illusion of bloat/fat. What do u have to say to that

 

[Youㅤ]

i did for the zygos, and infact my zygos are bigger then my gonials same for forehead

i know what im talking about. it took hard clenching of a shirt to get this jaw

 

[Romxnus753AC]

Well, there are people who say it gives a rounded shape and doesnt controbute to angularity. It gives the illusion of bloat/fat. What do u have to say to that

True but only in certain situations.
False if hypertrophy is done smartly and combined with fat loss.

• If you overtrain the masseter (jaw muscle) too much,
• It can make the lower face wider → causing a "square," bulky, or even boxy jaw instead of a sharp V-line.

YOU ALSO NEED TO TRAIN ZYGOS NIGGA USE LOGIC PORFAVOR like what u expect ?

 

[Romxnus753AC]

i know what im talking about. it took hard clenching of a shirt to get this jaw

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u need also to drop the weight and not only train the jaw bro, like u need to understand that hollow cheek form because your zygos are bigger then your gonials, your zygos are matched with ur jaw so think about that

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

Did your zygos really get better from the exercise? No smile lines or wrinkles from stretching the mouth so much?

 

[Youㅤ]

u need also to drop the weight and not only train the jaw bro, like u need to understand that hollow cheek form because your zygos are bigger then your gonials, your zygos are matched with ur jaw so think about that

it increased my zygos

 

[Romxnus753AC]

Did your zygos really get better from the exercise? No smile lines or wrinkles from stretching the mouth so much?

no smile lines no nothing, the only problem is acne but its not tied to this, and ur lips become bigger too

 

[Romxnus753AC]

it increased my zygos

check left side

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

no smile lines no nothing, the only problem is acne but its not tied to this, and ur lips become bigger too

Do you have pics? Cause from the way you said to push down on the cheek I think it would make my cheekbones lower set

 

[Romxnus753AC]

Do you have pics? Cause from the way you said to push down on the cheek I think it would make my cheekbones lower set

 

[Sceriff06]

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You're very young though, and that may have sped up the process.

 

[Lawton88]

A few people have improved training face but quite a few get a change that can descend their looks especially some steroid users. Some can look a lot different. I wonder if like other bones if muscle gains in the face can actually thicken facial bones.