How over is it when my face is still bloated at 121 pounds?

[ApacheMaxx]

I’m 18 and 5’9. I started going to the gym at 17, weighing about the same as now. So i went on a bulk obviously, and gained about 44 pounds in a year. Even though I didn’t know shit about the blackpill back then, I started to get displeased with the look of my face when I was near 154 pounds, even though as I am aware now, it starts to look noticeably bloated quite sooner. In my peak bulk, when I was over 154 pounds, my face looked actually obese on photos, like if someone would have seen it without my slim neck on a photo, they would probably assume I weighted maybe 187 pounds or more, compared to my height. I discovered the blackpill on the end of the school year, and started a caloric deficit over summer.

In September, I was noticably leaner, but I didn’t want to ever check my weight, because - as I correctly suspected, my face looked more fat than it should be. So i stayed in caloric deficit all the way until this point, and as of today, I decided to finally check my weight. Being 121 pounds again wasn’t that shocking, as I was expecting a simillar weight. However, it’s just so frustrating that almost nothing changed, my ogee curve didn’t really improve much from when i was 16, I just started taking better photos, and have a better diet. My face is still fucking round with very inward gonions and no ramus, I’m still a boneless cuck. My facial structure is basically the same as my mother, who had a fucking moonface when anorectic in her youth, while my father has above average bones, but I got just his coloring. I already sent my pics here twice, was rated MTN - high MTN. I will now just send my face privately to someone. In the end, I want to say that my life quality greatly improved when I started improving my looks, but is still pisses me off that I have to be sub 12% bodyfat to look average.

 

[SoundnVision]

Mentalcel bloated or actually bloated?

 

[Shkreliii]

Mentalcel bloated or actually bloated?

The bone bloat, aka having no bones,

 

[Shkreliii]

121 pounds, jfl ban this foid

 

[marek937]

It could be baby bloat

 

[shabby890]

It means it's time for cheek liposuction

 

[Shkreliii]

Apache and 5'8 its over for you, you could've been 6'3 warrior buffallo, but you got the rat spirit instead

No buffalo spirit for your bones

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Apache and 5'8 its over for you, you could've been 6'3 warrior buffallo, but you got the rat spirit instead

No buffalo spirit for your bones

Don"t talk shit to me nigga mann

 

[Shkreliii]

Don"t talk shit to me nigga mann

This nigga doens't even possess the wolf spirit
Buddy isn't even the eagle, horse nor bufallo, or even the bear spirit.

BRO IS THE SNOW GOOSE SPIRIT... A FUCKING GOOSE

 

[coispet]

DIY buccal fat removal…

 

[kovacs]

I’m 18 and 5’9. I started going to the gym at 17, weighing about the same as now. So i went on a bulk obviously, and gained about 44 pounds in a year. Even though I didn’t know shit about the blackpill back then, I started to get displeased with the look of my face when I was near 154 pounds, even though as I am aware now, it starts to look noticeably bloated quite sooner. In my peak bulk, when I was over 154 pounds, my face looked actually obese on photos, like if someone would have seen it without my slim neck on a photo, they would probably assume I weighted maybe 187 pounds or more, compared to my height. I discovered the blackpill on the end of the school year, and started a caloric deficit over summer.

In September, I was noticably leaner, but I didn’t want to ever check my weight, because - as I correctly suspected, my face looked more fat than it should be. So i stayed in caloric deficit all the way until this point, and as of today, I decided to finally check my weight. Being 121 pounds again wasn’t that shocking, as I was expecting a simillar weight. However, it’s just so frustrating that almost nothing changed, my ogee curve didn’t really improve much from when i was 16, I just started taking better photos, and have a better diet. My face is still fucking round with very inward gonions and no ramus, I’m still a boneless cuck. My facial structure is basically the same as my mother, who had a fucking moonface when anorectic in her youth, while my father has above average bones, but I got just his coloring. I already sent my pics here twice, was rated MTN - high MTN. I will now just send my face privately to someone. In the end, I want to say that my life quality greatly improved when I started improving my looks, but is still pisses me off that I have to be sub 12% bodyfat to look average.

if you are even capable of hitting 121 pounds without sudden and acute organ failure its already over

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It means it's time for cheek liposuction

This imo. Some people have very resistant fat pads in their faces. They have a fat face even at very low bf %. Even "boneless" people with normal fatpads have bone definition when they are at low bf. Fat is generally more often responsible for a bloated face that bones.

 

[Shkreliii]

DIY buccal fat removal…

is there no one that knows that ice can cause fat cell suicide? Cryoliposys, therefore you can actually freeze off the cheek fat, jfl looksmax forum aka dementia.org
@Preston

 

[ApacheMaxx]

is there no one that knows that ice can cause fat cell suicide? Cryoliposys, therefore you can actually freeze off the cheek fat, jfl looksmax forum aka dementia.org
@Preston

I’ve done DIY cryolipolysis maybe 20 times in summer, doesn’t do shit, or maybe very insignificant results

 

[shabby890]

is there no one that knows that ice can cause fat cell suicide? Cryoliposys, therefore you can actually freeze off the cheek fat, jfl looksmax forum aka dementia.org
@Preston

Iirc it's not designed for buccal or liposmal fat

 

[Shkreliii]

Iirc it's not designed for buccal or liposmal fat

Designed? what do you mean designed, it's the body, cryoliposis can occur anywhere there's fat cells lol... The fuck you mean?
LIrc my ass cuck

 

[ApacheMaxx]

if you are even capable of hitting 121 pounds without sudden and acute organ failure its already over

It’s 12% bf or less for my height, aka the “ideal bf percentage for looking good”

 

[ApacheMaxx]

This imo. Some people have very resistant fat pads in their faces. They have a fat face even at very low bf %. Even "boneless" people with normal fatpads have bone definition when they are at low bf. Fat is generally more often responsible for a bloated face that bones.

No, I should specify that only my lower third is bloated, and it’s because of my round gonions and short ramus + narrow lower jaw. I don’t want to argue about craniofacial knowledge, but in my opinion the fat deposit or thick skin thing is cope, or maybe minimal. It’s all about the size and shape of your skull

 

[shabby890]

Designed? what do you mean designed, it's the body, cryoliposis can occur anywhere there's fat cells lol... The fuck you mean?
LIrc my ass cuck

I'm talking about the cool sculpting device. Jfl if you think diy is going to do shit

 

[Shkreliii]

I'm talking about the cool sculpting device. Jfl if you think diy is going to do shit

You realize i have the full tutorial for the cool sculpting the device? Scientist have already figured out perfect temp for cryoliposys, which means you just have to replace the frozen gel bag every time to have same temp, and i can still do the machine

 

[shabby890]

You realize i have the full tutorial for the cool sculpting the device? Scientist have already figured out perfect temp for cryoliposys, which means you just have to replace the frozen gel bag every time to have same temp, and i can still do the machine

What are your results?.
How do you target cheek fat with the machine

 

[It'snotover]

and it’s because of my round gonions and short ramus + narrow lower jaw.

Then if you are really low bf try chewing to see if jaw width is holding you back. Honestly short ramus and inward gonions is cope plenty of tik tog fags have them and still keep lean face.

 

[Shkreliii]

What are your results?.
How do you target cheek fat with the machine

the machine isn't really neccessary, but for full effectiveness, i wear a retainer (Protecting teeth from cold, then i slide a frozen gel pack into my cheek, and another one to press on the top of the cheek, afterwards i try to induce blood flow to do cryoliposys,

as for time with applied cold, you should feel your body, take regular pauses if newbie.

 

[shabby890]

No, I should specify that only my lower third is bloated, and it’s because of my round gonions and short ramus + narrow lower jaw. I don’t want to argue about craniofacial knowledge, but in my opinion the fat deposit or thick skin thing is cope, or maybe minimal. It’s all about the size and shape of your skull

Some groups of people eg. EA are genetically predispositioned to have larger fat stores and thicker skin. Due to climate etc.

 

[ApacheMaxx]

Then if you are really low bf try chewing to see if jaw width is holding you back. Honestly short ramus and inward gonions is cope plenty of tik tog fags have them and still keep lean face.

Man how tf are you here from july 22 and you think chewing actually ascends bad lower third. You should have seen my face after I chewed mastic gum, when you have a weak jaw and you so called “chewmaxx”, it makes it even more bloated, and no, it’s not any sign of hypertrophy, it only temporarily gives it a “pump” which rounds your jaw even more when it’s round

 

[ApacheMaxx]

Some groups of people eg. EA are genetically predispositioned to have larger fat stores and thicker skin. Due to climate etc.

Yeah that’s maybe an exception, but I’m white

 

[It'snotover]

Man how tf are you here from july 22 and you think chewing actually ascends bad lower third. You should have seen my face after I chewed mastic gum, when you have a weak jaw and you so called “chewmaxx”, it makes it even more bloated, and no, it’s not any sign of hypertrophy, it only temporarily gives it a “pump” which rounds your jaw even more when it’s round

Nigga depends by how bad the situation is. If you have a fucking narrow jaw with 140 degrees gonial angle and 0 ramus it’s obvious that chewing will make you look like shit but plenty of people with average jaw bone looks better with some masseter, from the front it helped me too. Sorry if masseters descends you but don't act like it’s the same for everyone.

 

[ApacheMaxx]

Then if you are really low bf try chewing to see if jaw width is holding you back. Honestly short ramus and inward gonions is cope plenty of tik tog fags have them and still keep lean face.

Also show me one guy with round gonions and short ramus who has even hollow-ish cheeks, it’s bullshit. All tiktok prettyboys who are a little recessed/downward grown are attractive because of very good soft features and coloring, which I don’t have

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

You have no bones low t

 

[Whatashame]

Jfl at even mods talking about fat liposuction. Or "bloat". What you have is called craniofacial dystrophy, IN WHICH YOUR FUCKING BONES ARENT AS FORWARD AS THEY SHOULD

 

[synock21]

121 at 5'9? And you still have bloat? Is it actual fat or do you just not have bones?

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

ur just boneless or absolute shit fat distribution genes over either way

 

[chadintraining]

I’m 18 and 5’9. I started going to the gym at 17, weighing about the same as now. So i went on a bulk obviously, and gained about 44 pounds in a year. Even though I didn’t know shit about the blackpill back then, I started to get displeased with the look of my face when I was near 154 pounds, even though as I am aware now, it starts to look noticeably bloated quite sooner. In my peak bulk, when I was over 154 pounds, my face looked actually obese on photos, like if someone would have seen it without my slim neck on a photo, they would probably assume I weighted maybe 187 pounds or more, compared to my height. I discovered the blackpill on the end of the school year, and started a caloric deficit over summer.

In September, I was noticably leaner, but I didn’t want to ever check my weight, because - as I correctly suspected, my face looked more fat than it should be. So i stayed in caloric deficit all the way until this point, and as of today, I decided to finally check my weight. Being 121 pounds again wasn’t that shocking, as I was expecting a simillar weight. However, it’s just so frustrating that almost nothing changed, my ogee curve didn’t really improve much from when i was 16, I just started taking better photos, and have a better diet. My face is still fucking round with very inward gonions and no ramus, I’m still a boneless cuck. My facial structure is basically the same as my mother, who had a fucking moonface when anorectic in her youth, while my father has above average bones, but I got just his coloring. I already sent my pics here twice, was rated MTN - high MTN. I will now just send my face privately to someone. In the end, I want to say that my life quality greatly improved when I started improving my looks, but is still pisses me off that I have to be sub 12% bodyfat to look average.

Send pics in pm

May be able to give you some advice

 

[joao]

I am 119 pounds

 

[joao]

53-54 kg

 

[chadintraining]

Also show me one guy with round gonions and short ramus who has even hollow-ish cheeks, it’s bullshit. All tiktok prettyboys who are a little recessed/downward grown are attractive because of very good soft features and coloring, which I don’t have

Sean Opry has inward gonions and not the best ramus

David Gandy has a pretty good ramus along with Dellisola (who has slight hollowing)

All these people have inward gonions

 

[chadintraining]

Then if you are really low bf try chewing to see if jaw width is holding you back. Honestly short ramus and inward gonions is cope plenty of tik tog fags have them and still keep lean face.

Chewing with short ramus and inward gonions is a bad idea as it will result in the bloated masseter look, making his face look even more round

 

[chadintraining]

Jfl at even mods talking about fat liposuction. Or "bloat". What you have is called craniofacial dystrophy, IN WHICH YOUR FUCKING BONES ARENT AS FORWARD AS THEY SHOULD

Bloat and water retention are a real thing and can make your bones look worse

However, you still need the bones for debloating to have a noticeable effect

 

[It'snotover]

Chewing with short ramus and inward gonions is a bad idea as it will result in the bloated masseter look, making his face look even more round

Yes and no because the bone with time remodel, but it depends how much of short ramus it is and if it is because most guys here have a skewed perception of facial bones.

 

[einzigartig]

I’m 18 and 5’9. I started going to the gym at 17, weighing about the same as now. So i went on a bulk obviously, and gained about 44 pounds in a year. Even though I didn’t know shit about the blackpill back then, I started to get displeased with the look of my face when I was near 154 pounds, even though as I am aware now, it starts to look noticeably bloated quite sooner. In my peak bulk, when I was over 154 pounds, my face looked actually obese on photos, like if someone would have seen it without my slim neck on a photo, they would probably assume I weighted maybe 187 pounds or more, compared to my height. I discovered the blackpill on the end of the school year, and started a caloric deficit over summer.

In September, I was noticably leaner, but I didn’t want to ever check my weight, because - as I correctly suspected, my face looked more fat than it should be. So i stayed in caloric deficit all the way until this point, and as of today, I decided to finally check my weight. Being 121 pounds again wasn’t that shocking, as I was expecting a simillar weight. However, it’s just so frustrating that almost nothing changed, my ogee curve didn’t really improve much from when i was 16, I just started taking better photos, and have a better diet. My face is still fucking round with very inward gonions and no ramus, I’m still a boneless cuck. My facial structure is basically the same as my mother, who had a fucking moonface when anorectic in her youth, while my father has above average bones, but I got just his coloring. I already sent my pics here twice, was rated MTN - high MTN. I will now just send my face privately to someone. In the end, I want to say that my life quality greatly improved when I started improving my looks, but is still pisses me off that I have to be sub 12% bodyfat to look average.

44 pounds in a year? yeah sure 40 lbs is fat btw

 

[ElTruecel]

Same for me wide zygos and buccal fat here

 

[brutalmog]

I’m 18 and 5’9. I started going to the gym at 17, weighing about the same as now. So i went on a bulk obviously, and gained about 44 pounds in a year. Even though I didn’t know shit about the blackpill back then, I started to get displeased with the look of my face when I was near 154 pounds, even though as I am aware now, it starts to look noticeably bloated quite sooner. In my peak bulk, when I was over 154 pounds, my face looked actually obese on photos, like if someone would have seen it without my slim neck on a photo, they would probably assume I weighted maybe 187 pounds or more, compared to my height. I discovered the blackpill on the end of the school year, and started a caloric deficit over summer.

In September, I was noticably leaner, but I didn’t want to ever check my weight, because - as I correctly suspected, my face looked more fat than it should be. So i stayed in caloric deficit all the way until this point, and as of today, I decided to finally check my weight. Being 121 pounds again wasn’t that shocking, as I was expecting a simillar weight. However, it’s just so frustrating that almost nothing changed, my ogee curve didn’t really improve much from when i was 16, I just started taking better photos, and have a better diet. My face is still fucking round with very inward gonions and no ramus, I’m still a boneless cuck. My facial structure is basically the same as my mother, who had a fucking moonface when anorectic in her youth, while my father has above average bones, but I got just his coloring. I already sent my pics here twice, was rated MTN - high MTN. I will now just send my face privately to someone. In the end, I want to say that my life quality greatly improved when I started improving my looks, but is still pisses me off that I have to be sub 12% bodyfat to look average.

greycel bought vip so over

 

[chadintraining]

Yes and no because the bone with time remodel, but it depends how much of short ramus it is and if it is because most guys here have a skewed perception of facial bones.

I don’t know much about how bone remodeling works, but I am assuming there are more factors going into it

However, I 100% agree with your last point

A lot on this forum unironically believe this:

- If you don’t have the forward growth of Barrett, people will call you recessed

-If you don’t have a super long ramus, you have no ramus/a short ramus

-If you don’t have massive bones popping out everywhere on your skull, you are boneless

-You are too short if you are under 6’5

 

[It'snotover]

I don’t know much about how bone remodeling works, but I am assuming there are more factors going into it

However, I 100% agree with your last point

A lot on this forum unironically believe this:

- If you don’t have the forward growth of Barrett, people will call you recessed

-If you don’t have a super long ramus, you have no ramus/a short ramus

-If you don’t have massive bones popping out everywhere on your skull, you are boneless

-You are too short if you are under 6’5

100% agreed bro, the line between being based and an autist is very thin and a big part of the forum unfortunately does not have the real conception of the average looks or what is really achievable with surgeries and tend to overrate bones role a bit too much, when the thing that matter the most is if a face is pleasant to look at or not and the "boneless" part is a meme since not having top first percentile bones doesn’t mean boneless, a face that visibly lacks support is boneless not one without cromagnon tier robustness. Realistically this place now is good just for shitposting not much more.

 

[ApacheMaxx]

greycel bought vip so over

Says the one using the word “greycel” lmao, I bought the cheapest one in September because I needed to delete some easily researchable posts with my face on this forum, before some of my friends who learned the lingo from tiktok would find out cuz of my old username, for which you also need to pay to change it

 

[ApacheMaxx]

I don’t know much about how bone remodeling works, but I am assuming there are more factors going into it

However, I 100% agree with your last point

A lot on this forum unironically believe this:

- If you don’t have the forward growth of Barrett, people will call you recessed

-If you don’t have a super long ramus, you have no ramus/a short ramus

-If you don’t have massive bones popping out everywhere on your skull, you are boneless

-You are too short if you are under 6’5

I know I don’t have bones because my mother had circular face while at very low bf%, I also most likely had low prenatal T because of her diet, my ogee curve didn’t exist and was completely flat until recently, now at the same low bf I have a little one, which could unironically be a result of fucking bonesmashing for what I know. I can send u my pics privately, if you don’t mind giving some insight

 

[chadintraining]

I know I don’t have bones because my mother had circular face while at very low bf%, I also most likely had low prenatal T because of her diet, my ogee curve didn’t exist and was completely flat until recently, now at the same low bf I have a little one, which could unironically be a result of fucking bonesmashing for what I know. I can send u my pics privately, if you mind giving some insight

What is your ogee curve like now, and do you have any form of hollowing, even in frauded lighting

 

[chadintraining]

I know I don’t have bones because my mother had circular face while at very low bf%, I also most likely had low prenatal T because of her diet, my ogee curve didn’t exist and was completely flat until recently, now at the same low bf I have a little one, which could unironically be a result of fucking bonesmashing for what I know. I can send u my pics privately, if you don’t mind giving some insight

Good way to know your prenatal t levels is if your ring or index finger is longer

If it is ring, your prenatal t was likely higher and vice versa

 

[ApacheMaxx]

What is your ogee curve like now, and do you have any form of hollowing, even in frauded lighting

It’s okay under certan lightning, but more because of the cheek slope, not zygo bone mass, I can feel there’s just s little of it. And I do have a slight hollowing in certain lightning or angles, in other lightning when taking selfie from arm reach distance, my face is round asf, especially like the first 30 minutes after waking up, it’s slimmer in the evening I think

 

[ApacheMaxx]

I would have send the pictures to you @chadintraining as well as another guy who offered his help right away, but I have to do it using imgur, so I will upload it there soon