How smart do you need to be a quant?

[A23ghskung]

Very smart

Quantative work is a tier above FAANG, and that is already a very high bar

Being in a top university greatly increases your chance of getting in at the entry level

To put into perspective Jane Street, a top quant company, hired the highest scoring student in Cambridge's maths course. That is your competition.

They hire math Olympiad’s winner that should answer your question

 

[LooksThinker]

124iq

 

[Pakicel]

I know it won't last, infact it lasted a lot longer than i expected it to.
Everything is stacked against me, my looks, my health, anything you can think of and i am fucked up in that area. They're both pensioners, to nobodys surprise they were 40 when i was born, that explains a lot.

What health issues? You are only 27.

I think it's a little too late for building a career unless i get extremely lucky with an entry level tech job after doing certs/learning python but i know better and this is wishful thinking and it's not happening. My health is terrible so it's not like i can even work right now anyways. Doctors aren't helping me, brutal.

It's not too late. Have you looked into bootcamps, recruit/train/deploy companies or conversion masters? That's how I got in. It's not as hard as you think. If you are well enough to code, you should be able to hold down a tech job. Besides, there are plenty of other tracks besides tech lol.

Bimax sure but even without it i think rhino will do good for me if done correctly.

The problem is your big nose might not be big by itself but only looks that way because your recessed jaws. Getting a rhino to make it smaller could make your nose too small for your skull and you would look weird in motion.

50k for a revision on a rhino that cost 5k? Sounds ridiculous. Alternatively i can try to find the best rhino surgeon in turkiye and if i get botched then i find the tallest building in Istanbul and Sayonara truecel-kun!

I mean. You need to have a good amount saved up for revisions and potential complications.

Look. If you want to rope, I am not stopping you. It's for you to decide whether your life is worth living or not. While there are certainly situations in which I would def rope, yours isn't one of them. Even getting botched isn't the end of the world because many people turn out okay after a revision and there are people who live perfectly happy lives with botched rhinos, eye surgeries etc.

Honestly, you need to stay away from this site and focus all your efforts into fixing your health issues and getting some kind of career. Maybe come back when you are in a position to get some surgeries.

 

[JohnDoe]

What health issues? You are only 27.

It's not too late. Have you looked into bootcamps, recruit/train/deploy companies or conversion masters? That's how I got in. It's not as hard as you think. If you are well enough to code, you should be able to hold down a tech job. Besides, there are plenty of other tracks besides tech lol.

The problem is your big nose might not be big by itself but only looks that way because your recessed jaws. Getting a rhino to make it smaller could make your nose too small for your skull and you would look weird in motion.

I mean. You need to have a good amount saved up for revisions and potential complications.

Look. If you want to rope, I am not stopping you. It's for you to decide whether your life is worth living or not. While there are certainly situations in which I would def rope, yours isn't one of them. Even getting botched isn't the end of the world because many people turn out okay after a revision and there are people who live perfectly happy lives with botched rhinos, eye surgeries etc.

Honestly, you need to stay away from this site and focus all your efforts into fixing your health issues and getting some kind of career. Maybe come back when you are in a position to get some surgeries.

I won't mention specifics publicly but it's quite bad.
Bootcamps are a meme, i wanted to go into cloud engineering but don't think it's possible without comp sci degree. Even if i know python/aws/azure and certs, usually they dismiss anyone without a relevant degree. It's worth a try i suppose but i won't keep my hopes up. Never heard of deploy/recruit companies or conversion masters.
Actually i have a few theories on why my nose became such a monstrosity. But in short, it actually is big and really bad. I'll send you cropped picture tomorrow. Also only chewing on one side of my mouth for 14 years and I've learnt quite a few things how chewing impacts your jaw/cheeks/nose and eyes. One side of my profile view nose looks completely different to side i chewed on which looks way worse but jaw looks better that side. Tooth extractions coukdhave contributed to recessed maxilla I've never been a mouthbreather though.

I look like the naked molerat when i shave so I'm forced to keep a beard as my nose is too big.
Most of the zoomers on this forum would have roped if they were in my shoes. When everything is against you, you feel suffocated. If anyone could justify roping on this forum it would be me. All these guys are just teenagers and average looking guys who cry because they're not chad.

This site is not an issue really, i only visit to shitpost and talk to a select few members privately. I don't bother with any looksmaxxing because of health issues and depression. I wait months to see specialists and they cancel last minute and now another 5m wait. It's a total joke, if you don't have money to go private you are finished.
How can i do anything career related? I can do certs and learn python/cloud prerequisites but won't do much. I haven't turned my pc on in 6 months. It's over bhai..
Btw how old are you and are you religious? If you're paki how are you gonna explain surgeries to your family

 

[Pakicel]

I won't mention specifics publicly but it's quite bad.
Bootcamps are a meme, i wanted to go into cloud engineering but don't think it's possible without comp sci degree. Even if i know python/aws/azure and certs, usually they dismiss anyone without a relevant degree. It's worth a try i suppose but i won't keep my hopes up. Never heard of deploy/recruit companies or conversion masters.

Lol. I got a tech role without a degree. Well, I am doing a conversion masters but I haven't completed it yet. And recruit-train-deploy companies and bootcamps are how people without experience even get interviews. IDK why you haven't come across them in your research. Face it. You haven't really tried.

 

[Pakicel]

How can i do anything career related? I can do certs and learn python/cloud prerequisites but won't do much. I haven't turned my pc on in 6 months. It's over bhai..
Btw how old are you and are you religious? If you're paki how are you gonna explain surgeries to your family

How many roles have you applied for?

 

[JohnDoe]

How many roles have you applied for?

Why would i apply when I'm not fit to work?

 

[JohnDoe]

Lol. I got a tech role without a degree. Well, I am doing a conversion masters but I haven't completed it yet. And recruit-train-deploy companies and bootcamps are how people without experience even get interviews. IDK why you haven't come across them in your research. Face it. You haven't really tried.

I don't know much about the job side because I'm a NEET. How do i get a tech role, where do i begin?

 

[LooksOrDeath]

They hire math Olympiad’s winner that should answer your question

True, but its not my question.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Look. If you want to rope, I am not stopping you. It's for you to decide whether your life is worth living or not. While there are certainly situations in which I would def rope, yours isn't one of them.

jfl you're terrible at motivation

 

[Pakicel]

jfl you're terrible at motivation

Some people are truly fucked though. I wouldn't want someone to tell me not to rope if I was living on $1 a day or something. But that probably isn't @JohnDoe.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Some people are truly fucked though. I wouldn't want someone to tell me not to rope if I was living on $1 a day or something. But that probably isn't @JohnDoe.

You would want someone to tell you to rope if you were making 1 dollar a day? That's before you would want them to help you by offering shelter or a job, jfl.

Telling someone that they are allowed to kill themselves is a whole new level of autism.

 

[A23ghskung]

True, but its not my question.

Bro are you a math Olympiad winner or top of your class at math? You know the answer.

If your either of those you can become a quant if you aren’t well…

 

[Pakicel]

You would want someone to tell you to rope if you were making 1 dollar a day? That's before you would want them to help you by offering shelter or a job, jfl.

Not how the real world works. People on $1 a day would lack the skills to hold a decent paying job. Possibly low IQ as well. They can only get handouts, which imo, isn't a very dignified way to live.

Telling someone that they are allowed to kill themselves is a whole new level of autism.

So? I think in some situations, roping is the best choice. I am not gonna let some dude suffer if there is a relatively easy way out. I would advise him to select a foolproof method though. So many people fail to kill themselves and end up worse off than they were before.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Bro are you a math Olympiad winner or top of your class at math? You know the answer.

If your either of those you can become a quant if you aren’t well…

I think you're confusing me with OP, I have no intent to become a quant

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Not how the real world works. People on $1 a day would lack the skills to hold a decent paying job. Possibly low IQ as well. They can only get handouts, which imo, isn't a very dignified way to live.

1 buck a day where, and saying that someone who is in that situation won't have any skills is a hell of an assumption.

So? I think in some situations, roping is the best choice. I am not gonna let some dude suffer if there is a relatively easy way out. I would advise him to select a foolproof method though. So many people fail to kill themselves and end up worse off than they were before.

jfl roping is a meme term, don't use it in a serious context

you're telling @JohnDoe to consider committing suicide, that shows that you view his situation as near hopeless. Your point could have been made a lot better if you left out the suicide part.

 

[Pakicel]

1 buck a day where, and saying that someone who is in that situation won't have any skills is a hell of an assumption.

jfl roping is a meme term, don't use it in a serious context

you're telling @JohnDoe to consider committing suicide, that shows that you view his situation as near hopeless. Your point could have been made a lot better if you left out the suicide part.

Dude. He himself has been speaking of wanting to rope for a while. And tbh. His situation is pretty bad. He is 27 with no career. Bad health. Also a truecel with a small dick. I mean. I wouldn't say those are ropeworthy stats. It's not like he is some 5 foot currycel with a deformity living in the slums of Mumbai. But the odds are against him. His situation is still salvageable. He can build a career and get some surgeries and maybe be a careermaxxed, NTmaxxed normie. But he really needs to get his act together.

 

[JohnDoe]

1 buck a day where, and saying that someone who is in that situation won't have any skills is a hell of an assumption.

jfl roping is a meme term, don't use it in a serious context

you're telling @JohnDoe to consider committing suicide, that shows that you view his situation as near hopeless. Your point could have been made a lot better if you left out the suicide part.

I will become an hero

 

[JohnDoe]

Dude. He himself has been speaking of wanting to rope for a while. And tbh. His situation is pretty bad. He is 27 with no career. Bad health. Also a truecel with a small dick. I mean. I wouldn't say those are ropeworthy stats. It's not like he is some 5 foot currycel with a deformity living in the slums of Mumbai. But the odds are against him. His situation is still salvageable. He can build a career and get some surgeries and maybe be a careermaxxed, NTmaxxed normie. But he really needs to get his act

Come again?

 

[syract2]

im curious. I would guess 150-160. but I am not certain that all geniuses of that caliber would even want to slave away their youth

not as smart as u think tbh pattern recognition and memory go a long way

 

[Deleted member 32221]

I will never understand why people want to go through blood and sweat to compete with 99.999th percentile 160 IQ naturally gifted superhumans from the most prestigious universities in the world just to be employed and make less money than girls showing their feet on the internet and teenage script kiddies. Entrepreneurship is the way

Ego boost

 

[Pakicel]

Come again?

So? I don’t want to delusionmax you because that’s not why you are here. The odds are stacked stacked you bit that doesn’t mean it’s over.

 

[Deleted member 45942]

im curious. I would guess 150-160. but I am not certain that all geniuses of that caliber would even want to slave away their youth

Like your org account in your resume

 

[Mr. President]

Like your org account in your resume

What do you mean

 

[Deleted member 45942]

What do you mean

Sorry I meant *link

 

[MaestheticMaso]

Really depends on whether you’re looking at the research side where you have to come up with model ideas based on advanced maths or the development side where you help run the models through programming.

If it’s the former, then yeah, you’ll need to be very sharp at maths. Typical candidates are top of their class at IVY league/MIT in the US or Oxbridge/Imperial/Warwick ect in the UK. Plus they’ll often get a PHD and would’ve been honing their problem solving skills at an early age via maths competitions.

If it’s the latter, I guess it’s possible if you’re very good at programming and have a good amount of experience or projects. If you have the capabilities to get into FAANG and go to a good uni, then you have a shot.

You have to remember that whilst the pay is top tier, it’s more stressful than other jobs in tech or finance. You need to have a head for this and genuinely enjoy solving problems FAST! There are other great high paying careers in tech like SWEs, Data scientists, Cyber security specialists ect. In finance/maths careers, an Acturay is a strong career especially if you specialise in a high paying field of insurance and you get to use a lot of maths, especially probability and statistical modelling; traditional high finance is also very high paying and definitely easier to break into tbh!

What uni tier do you go to OP? How good are you at maths, honestly ? Either way, it’s best to get the looksmaxxing info you need and leave this forum to focus on your life, academics and career journey if you want to succeed, especially in such competitive fields. I need to take this advice too jfl.


Edit: Forgot that I replied to this thread already but this was more detailed jfl.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

@LooksOrDeath @Mr. President
130 is enough
But you underestimate the amount of hard work and stress.
Can you work 100 hours/week consistently? Are you the kind of person to work 100 hours/week?
If not you wont get quant even with 150

They work more like 60 hours a week, quant developers 50 hours a week. Still long but nowhere near as comparable to 100.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Come again?

He took your suicide joke seriously jfl
don't mind him he has a tendency to take things at face value

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Dude. He himself has been speaking of wanting to rope for a while. And tbh. His situation is pretty bad. He is 27 with no career. Bad health. Also a truecel with a small dick. I mean. I wouldn't say those are ropeworthy stats. It's not like he is some 5 foot currycel with a deformity living in the slums of Mumbai. But the odds are against him. His situation is still salvageable. He can build a career and get some surgeries and maybe be a careermaxxed, NTmaxxed normie. But he really needs to get his act together.

Have you been talking with @JohnDoe before this

 

[JohnDoe]

Have you been talking with @JohnDoe before this

No... he stalked me which is why he knows so much about me. I certainly didn't discuss my 5 inch penis with him or talk about it anytime recently.

He took your suicide joke seriously jfl
don't mind him he has a tendency to take things at face value

I'm kinda serious, i feel like dying every day. i just post about it jokingly because this is a bp forum and nobody really cares and it's a coping mechanism

 

[LooksOrDeath]

No... he stalked me which is why he knows so much about me. I certainly didn't discuss my 5 inch penis with him or talk about it anytime recently.

Very cute, in an autistic way.

I'm kinda serious, i feel like dying every day. i just post about it jokingly because this is a bp forum and nobody really cares and it's a coping mechanism

I figured you were half joking half serious, but him taking it completely seriously is uncalled for. I hope you make it.

 

[JohnDoe]

Very cute, in an autistic way.

I figured you were half joking half serious, but him taking it completely seriously is uncalled for. I hope you make it.

Thank you buddy, one can dream.

 

[bradpittshairline]

best of the best and quants care a lot about college prestige

 

[DelonLover1999]

you could be a quant with 115 iq tbh, 150 is genius tier lmao

 

[Pakicel]

Very cute, in an autistic way.

Didn’t stalk him. I remember speaking to him last year. At first I thought he was LARPing for sympathy when he told me he is a true elf with no career and a small dick. I told him to stop being so high inhib and surgerymax, dickmax or whatever. I do go through the post history of users that seem very knowledgeable. @JohnDoe just complains so there isn’t really much that is useful for me in his post history. Maybe he is exaggerating how bad his situation to make us sympathise with him. But doesn’t matter. What I say to him is valid for most of the rotters on here

I figured you were half joking half serious, but him taking it completely seriously is uncalled for. I hope you make it.

I don’t think he really wants to rope or he would’ve done it by now. Honestly, if I were dead set on roping, I’d just do it. I wouldn’t be too impulsive about it because you can mess it up. Ideally, the government should provide assisted suicide but society is too cucked for that. Hopefully, we’ll have something when I’m an oldcel that ensures I have a painless death at my own will.

 

[lovemaxer]

They work more like 60 hours a week, quant developers 50 hours a week. Still long but nowhere near as comparable to 100.

100 hours/week before hired then 80 ish
High end jobs are 7 day/week and never 9-5
Always on call
Even worse hours (but less stress) with investment banking

 

[LooksOrDeath]

100 hours/week before hired then 80 ish

source?

Career Guide - Quants/ Financial Engineering​

Working Hours. Quants have a rather healthy work life balance. The typical day usually last from 8 AM to around 6 PM.



These are just a few references among many, and they all point towards the same range of 50-60 hours on average. Certainly there are quants who work more, but they are exceptions.

High end jobs are 7 day/week and never 9-5

I am not sure what you mean exactly by high end jobs, but barely any high paying jobs ask for 7 days a week, apart from people like surgeons and investment bankers. Software engineers at companies often work even less than 40 hours.

always on call
Even worse hours (but less stress) with investment banking

Investment bankers work 80 hours a week on average.

 

[incel194012940]

@JohnDoe change your pfp back to the suicide cartoon guy it was funny and iconic

 

[incel194012940]

lol at being hired for brain

its all about personality in job, just sell mercedes or something

 

[Pakicel]

source?

Career Guide - Quants/ Financial Engineering​

Working Hours. Quants have a rather healthy work life balance. The typical day usually last from 8 AM to around 6 PM.



These are just a few references among many, and they all point towards the same range of 50-60 hours on average. Certainly there are quants who work more, but they are exceptions.


I am not sure what you mean exactly by high end jobs, but barely any high paying jobs ask for 7 days a week, apart from people like surgeons and investment bankers. Software engineers at companies often work even less than 40 hours.

Investment bankers work 80 hours a week on average.

Yeah. Tech is very relaxed. I only really work 2 days a week. I mean I WFH the other 3 days but I can still fuck around and not do much.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Yeah. Tech is very relaxed. I only really work 2 days a week. I mean I WFH the other 3 days but I can still fuck around and not do much.

Good for you

we were talking about quant developers though

 

[Pakicel]

Good for you

we were talking about quant developers though

yeah they have brutal hours

 

[LooksOrDeath]

yeah they have brutal hours

50-60 hours, 50 hours at a lot of companies, is high but far from brutal I would say. Definitely manageable by most people, especially considering the pay.

 

[lovemaxer]

source?

Career Guide - Quants/ Financial Engineering​

Working Hours. Quants have a rather healthy work life balance. The typical day usually last from 8 AM to around 6 PM.



These are just a few references among many, and they all point towards the same range of 50-60 hours on average. Certainly there are quants who work more, but they are exceptions.


I am not sure what you mean exactly by high end jobs, but barely any high paying jobs ask for 7 days a week, apart from people like surgeons and investment bankers. Software engineers at companies often work even less than 40 hours.

Investment bankers work 80 hours a week on average.

60 hours is from pretty standard 12 hour M-F. Then many work weekends to get ahead.
The 100 hours/week is from students competing for top quant internships they work non-stop even their socializing is actually networking with other finance bros at fraternities.

By high end jobs, take 60 hours M-F, then add 20+ from working weekends
Ofc quant does work less than IB once ur settled because its based on contribution to the firm, 60-100 doesn't make a difference if ur not adding value

 

[LooksOrDeath]

60 hours is from pretty standard 12 hour M-F. Then many work weekends to get ahead.
The 100 hours/week is from students competing for top quant internships they work non-stop even their socializing is actually networking with other finance bros at fraternities.

Do you have a source for the internship hours?
quant involves little networking and more working

By high end jobs, take 60 hours M-F, then add 20+ from working weekends

the posts up there include top quant companies, hrt, jane street etc. your beloved high end jobs. They still work in the same range

 

[LooksOrDeath]

The 100 hours/week is from students competing for top quant internships they work non-stop even their socializing is actually networking with other finance bros at fraternities.

i misread this, the students were the source

are these numbers for internships or the job. I still do not see any data online that shows the 100 hour figure.

 

[kiyopon]

if you were smart enough youd know