how the fck did I get to be absolutely cooked (my side profile ruins everything)

[TritonMTN]

I have the worst side profile possible. I have a more or less normal low MTN front, but my side profile ruining my whole life. I'm also 180 cm tall, and it doesn't stop me from talking to girls as long as they don't see me from the side. (I specially removed the curls to show you).
what the fuck do I have to do to fix this shit, why is it so terrible?
Orthodontists also fucked me over braces with elastics and wisdom teeth extraction at 14-15.
I have enough money, if it were possible to have an operation in my country now at my age, I would do it. Even the fucking alt-girl with 4 breast sizes who date me a month ago went to a tajik who just had a lot better profile than me, but less appeal and 0 cash, the real BP moment
I'm 16.5 yo now. Of course, no one will make a hardmax for me at the moment, but at least tell me what to prepare for?
Which really fucking helps me? And don't write trolling shit like debloating, because I saw myself with 9% body fat and it looked terrible anyway, i decided to eat more animal products + gym and gain weight, rather than engage in nonsense like a debloat.
At the moment, I'm wearing permanent 6-tooth retainers on the bottom and top.

I'm going to a new orthodontist on January 24, can I offer him something? I'm already tired of dealing with these devices and operations. Is there really anyone who understands this?

 

[BimaxLaser]

Its not that bad lil nigga

 

[Sushifart]

You got elastics and a wisdom teeth extractions while your face was developing. That's where it went wrong

 

[TritonMTN]

Its not that bad lil nigga

its scary

 

[genetically fucked]

I have the worst side profile possible. I have a more or less normal low MTN front, but my side profile ruining my whole life. I'm also 180 cm tall, and it doesn't stop me from talking to girls as long as they don't see me from the side. (I specially removed the curls to show you).
what the fuck do I have to do to fix this shit, why is it so terrible?
Orthodontists also fucked me over braces with elastics and wisdom teeth extraction at 14-15.
I have enough money, if it were possible to have an operation in my country now at my age, I would do it. Even the fucking alt-girl with 4 breast sizes who date me a month ago went to a tajik who just had a lot better profile than me, but less appeal and 0 cash, the real BP moment
I'm 16.5 yo now. Of course, no one will make a hardmax for me at the moment, but at least tell me what to prepare for?
Which really fucking helps me? And don't write trolling shit like debloating, because I saw myself with 9% body fat and it looked terrible anyway, i decided to eat more animal products + gym and gain weight, rather than engage in nonsense like a debloat.
At the moment, I'm wearing permanent 6-tooth retainers on the bottom and top.

I'm going to a new orthodontist on January 24, can I offer him something? I'm already tired of dealing with these devices and operations. Is there really anyone who understands this?

it’s just the recession that’s it tbh

 

[TritonMTN]

You got elastics and a wisdom teeth extractions while your face was developing. That's where it went wrong

Yes, I understand that, but what should I do now? the past can no longer be turned over.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

You got elastics and a wisdom teeth extractions while your face was developing. That's where it went wrong

Idk if it's really affects the forward growth that much tbh, asked my dentist back then and he told me it doesn't do much.

 

[TritonMTN]

as for the hardmax. what can help me when I turn 18? or what orthodontic devices can help me now at my age. or at least something to fix it...

 

[Sushifart]

Idk if it's really affects the forward growth that much tbh, asked my dentist back then and he told me it doesn't do much.

Maybe. At 14 it probably does. I didn't even know they let people extract that carelessly at that age. My memory is a little hazy, but I do recall people saying you should absolutely not get extractions during puberty unless necessary (bone grafts required and shit).

 

[TritonMTN]

Maybe. At 14 it probably does. I didn't even know they let people extract that carelessly at that age. My memory is a little hazy, but I do recall people saying you should absolutely not get extractions during puberty unless necessary (bone grafts required and shit).

brother im from CIS. Orthodontists and medicine are fucked up here.

 

[TritonMTN]

I had 2 wisdom teeth removed from my upper jaw at 14 and 2 wisdom teeth removed from my lower jaw at 15.

 

[milchbubi88]

It’s not that bad

 

[TritonMTN]

It’s not that bad

It's also a normal side profile photo, like there's no froud, but it still feels like I'm even worse in life.

 

[milchbubi88]

It's also a normal side profile photo, like there's no froud, but it still feels like I'm even worse in life.

I understand, maybe grow your hair a bit out trust me

 

[TritonMTN]

do not write to me that this is normal, in my life, they tell me that I have a terrible profile and it touches me. I need action before it is too late (or it seems to me that it is not too late, I do not know).

 

[TritonMTN]

Im really fucked up with this already. I thought it was a medium-narrow sky at first, but now I realize that my profile is terrible.

 

[lurking truecel]

I mean

do not write to me that this is normal, in my life, they tell me that I have a terrible profile and it touches me. I need action before it is too late (or it seems to me that it is not too late, I do not know).

I mean it doesn't look bad, it's average. You have a clear recession in the chin, and it seems like it also causes your lower lip to be a bit weird or incompetent because you need muscles of the lips to close your mouth instead of bones so you can relax. Later you would need trimax and possibly implants if you want jawline from the side. But it's an average side profile in this day and age. Not good or bad

 

[TritonMTN]

I mean

I mean it doesn't look bad, it's average. You have a clear recession in the chin, and it seems like it also causes your lower lip to be a bit weird or incompetent because you need muscles of the lips to close your mouth instead of bones so you can relax. Later you would need trimax and possibly implants if you want jawline from the side. But it's an average side profile in this day and age. Not good or bad

It's good to see you again. I'm already just fucked up with this. Yes, I think I'll need a trimax, thanks.

 

[TritonMTN]

is there anyone else who understands?

 

[lurking truecel]

It's good to see you again. I'm already just fucked up with this. Yes, I think I'll need a trimax, thanks.

But I don't see how anyone irl would have said you have a bad profile because it's clearly not that bad. Just stay sane, and get it treated later in life. It's not some rare condition you have, and also what kind of jaws does you parents have? Some of it is ofc genetic even if enviroment fucked you to some degree

 

[TritonMTN]

My father has a powerful wide jaw, and the whole family has chins closer to round , +my mother has a recessive one. But Dad's ramus and jaw angle are much smaller and closer to 100 degrees than mine.
I don't think it's very important. but it seems to me that my sister is even more recessed out due to the fact that she grew up in apartment conditions, and I in an urban-type settlement. just a theory.

 

[TritonMTN]

I was also advised to put on a face mask + MSE and I will go to talk about this on January 24 with an orthodontist. Someone can tell me what they think about it? I'm trying to jump at any opportunity to switch before I'm 18

 

[TritonMTN]

I want to live happily for these one and a half years until I'm 18, but when I look at my peers and they are less recessed, but have a much lower appeal and don't take care of themselves at all, I feel terrible.

 

[lurking truecel]

I was also advised to put on a face mask + MSE and I will go to talk about this on January 24 with an orthodontist. Someone can tell me what they think about it? I'm trying to jump at any opportunity to switch before I'm 18

You are mentally ill at this point, just dont think about it for some time, it won't change untill you do a real hardmax so don't bother if you are not on the surgical table. I don't even say this to be mean but you will waste time off your life doing shit that won't make a difference otherwise so then you might aswell try to live some. It's not that bad, and yes there will always be peers who looks a lot better etc. And to be fair the changes from removing wisdoms even at early age is not that big, you probably just got more of your mothers side jaw genetics. So live with it and stop wasting time at the Ortho because face mask will not do shit

 

[TritonMTN]

You are mentally ill at this point, just dont think about it for some time, it won't change untill you do a real hardmax so don't bother if you are not on the surgical table. I don't even say this to be mean but you will waste time off your life doing shit that won't make a difference otherwise so then you might aswell try to live some. It's not that bad, and yes there will always be peers who looks a lot better etc. And to be fair the changes from removing wisdoms even at early age is not that big, you probably just got more of your mothers side jaw genetics. So live with it and stop wasting time at the Ortho because face mask will not do shit

I'm traumatized by this shit. If I hadn't been criticized for my side profile, I wouldn't have ended up on this site in my life.

 

[lurking truecel]

I'm traumatized by this shit. If I hadn't been criticized for my side profile, I wouldn't have ended up on this site in my life.

Yeah I mean all people get criticised some time. Get over it and continue living

 

[TritonMTN]

Yeah I mean all people get criticised some time. Get over it and continue living

especially when I see the "changes" of people in tiktok and telegram, when they fucking sell me useless courses on looksmaxxing, it's fucked me up already. I don't understand where they get these results at my age or even older.

 

[lurking truecel]

especially when I see the "changes" of people in tiktok and telegram, when they fucking sell me useless courses on looksmaxxing, it's fucked me up already. I don't understand where they get these results at my age or even older.

Its larp most of it, or people with already good jaws etc. it's just a scam to make people buy shit, don't fall for that. Any influencers who transformed is just larping hard

 

[TritonMTN]

Its larp most of it, or people with already good jaws etc. it's just a scam to make people buy shit, don't fall for that. Any influencers who transformed is just larping hard

even if it's just growing up, that's why I wanted to remove the retainers, thinking that they interfere with my direct facial growth.

 

[TritonMTN]

let's go back to my original rage. Are there any people who have had similar experiences?

I have the worst side profile possible. I have a more or less normal low MTN front, but my side profile ruining my whole life. I'm also 180 cm tall, and it doesn't stop me from talking to girls as long as they don't see me from the side. (I specially removed the curls to show you).
what the fuck do I have to do to fix this shit, why is it so terrible?
Orthodontists also fucked me over braces with elastics and wisdom teeth extraction at 14-15.
I have enough money, if it were possible to have an operation in my country now at my age, I would do it. Even the fucking alt-girl with 4 breast sizes who date me a month ago went to a tajik who just had a lot better profile than me, but less appeal and 0 cash, the real BP moment
I'm 16.5 yo now. Of course, no one will make a hardmax for me at the moment, but at least tell me what to prepare for?
Which really fucking helps me? And don't write trolling shit like debloating, because I saw myself with 9% body fat and it looked terrible anyway, i decided to eat more animal products + gym and gain weight, rather than engage in nonsense like a debloat.
At the moment, I'm wearing permanent 6-tooth retainers on the bottom and top.

I'm going to a new orthodontist on January 24, can I offer him something? I'm already tired of dealing with these devices and operations. Is there really anyone who understands this?

 

[TritonMTN]

I also want to buy a stack that defers growth zones, including on the face, and also boosts hormones, but now I'm wondering how much of a cope it is. will there really be changes in the bones on the face

 

[lurking truecel]

even if it's just growing up, that's why I wanted to remove the retainers, thinking that they interfere with my direct facial growth.

I mean retainers won't affect your facial growth. And nothing ever did interfere with your facial growth. Removing teeth removes the bone and makes the face grow in a bad growth pattern. It doesn't interfere with the growth tho, only the pattern in which you are growing. And this spiral usually causes bad health symptoms and detoriation of bone in different ways like condylar resorption, sinus infections, tonsils get inflamed, teeth roots becomes worse, tongue don't get enough space, worse sleep, and on and on. That's whats changes the face not the growth itself, but the pattern in which you are growing.

 

[TritonMTN]

I mean retainers won't affect your facial growth. And nothing ever did interfere with your facial growth. Removing teeth removes the bone and makes the face grow in a bad growth pattern. It doesn't interfere with the growth tho, only the pattern in which you are growing. And this spiral usually causes bad health symptoms and detoriation of bone in different ways like condylar resorption, sinus infections, tonsils get inflamed, teeth roots becomes worse, tongue don't get enough space, worse sleep, and on and on. That's whats changes the face not the growth itself, but the pattern in which you are growing.

maybe. because of these my stupid mistakes, that's why I'm looking for ways to improve side profile.

 

[TritonMTN]

Is there anyone who can add info or share expirience?

 

[lurking truecel]

maybe. because of these my stupid mistakes, that's why I'm looking for ways to improve side profile.

As I said you won't change it without hard Maxx, so stop wasting time on this shit. Like 20% of all people get ruined by orthos and enviroment. Stop being stuck in this trying to fix it with methods that don't work. Jaw surgery is the way or else don't bother

 

[TritonMTN]

Is there anyone who can add info or share expirience?

I don't want to accept the fact that I won't change anything anymore. I know there are crazy people here with crazy methods, but there are also sensible people who can really tell you something worthwhile.

 

[TritonMTN]

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[TritonMTN]

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[Loruki]

Maybe. At 14 it probably does. I didn't even know they let people extract that carelessly at that age. My memory is a little hazy, but I do recall people saying you should absolutely not get extractions during puberty unless necessary (bone grafts required and shit).

i got mine removed because they were gonna destroy my second molars of the mandible. only got the lower ones removed bc they were inwarded toward the molars and gonna cause cavities. like they were touching my second molars when i was 14 yrs old. i had a recessed wide mandible because of bad habits and genetic predisposition. braces can prolly fix my overbite malocclusion.

 

[WhiteMan]

wtf its good wtf

 

[Loruki]

wtf its good wtf

wdym its good?

 

[WhiteMan]

wdym its good?

its good wtf the side is good wtf

 

[Loruki]

its good wtf the side is good wtf

its not. his airway is gonna collapse and he will develop sleep apnea according to jaw hacks because of the collapse of the maxilla from wisdom teeth extraction.

 

[WhiteMan]

its not. his airway is gonna collapse and he will develop sleep apnea according to jaw hacks because of the collapse of the maxilla from wisdom teeth extraction.

wtf who cares it looks good wtf just wtf man wtf

 

[Loruki]

wtf who cares it looks good wtf just wtf man wtf

when ur airway collapses ur lifespan shortens 50% and u will die in ur sleep once u choke and cant breathe through ur nose or mouth. your throat will collapse if your jaw is alr narrow.

 

[WhiteMan]

when ur airway collapses ur lifespan shortens 50% and u will die in ur sleep once u choke and cant breathe through ur nose or mouth. your throat will collapse if your jaw is alr narrow.

wtf and who cares wtf as long wtf as you look good wtf man wtf

 

[Loruki]

wtf and who cares wtf as long wtf as you look good wtf man wtf

nigga ur gonna fucking die

 

[Loruki]

You got elastics and a wisdom teeth extractions while your face was developing. That's where it went wrong

i developed breathing problems from the further recession of the mandible after lower wisdom teeth extraction. i have a overbite. do u think braces and optimizing my growth hormoones as a 15 yr old would help fix the recession of the mandible?

 

[WhiteMan]

nigga ur gonna fucking die

ok? wtf just wtf

 

[Loruki]

ok? wtf just wtf

look at @Zeta hes htn and had 4 molars extracted at 12 yrs old to fix his malocclusion w/ braces. i assume his wisdom teeth grew in properly. his face is sort of small because of that if u look at him without fillers. now he pouts his lips when he mews because his molars were extracted even tho he has good genes